View Full Version : cable internet....why did i ever wait
Pappy
08-28-2003, 05:03 AM
man this is soooo fast now:D i hope i can get it in my new house:(
k2-dawg
08-28-2003, 05:07 AM
DSL is better.... sorry Pappy.
sickmojave
08-28-2003, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by k2-dawg
DSL is better.... sorry Pappy.
better than cable :huh I like my cable better :p
Pappy
08-28-2003, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by k2-dawg
DSL is better.... sorry Pappy.
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lil400exman
08-28-2003, 05:20 AM
cable is better cause you dont have to pay a seperate ISP and the dsl line all you have to pay with cable if the flat price..........:) and your always online with cable so its great for d/l stuff........i got road runner.......
Originally posted by k2-dawg
DSL is better.... sorry Pappy.
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm Negative....:blah:
sickmojave
08-28-2003, 05:40 AM
oh and Pappy
Welcome to the wonderful world of broadband . and get a good pop-up blocker;)
Doibugu2
08-28-2003, 05:41 AM
I had cable at my parents house, and when I bought my house, they didn't offer broadband where I live. I refused to go to dial up.
I just get done what I need to at work on the t1. Just no porn on the weekends:(
chucked
08-28-2003, 05:42 AM
DSL is better.... sorry Pappy.
last time i heard cable is better. but comcast is being an a-hole recently. It goes down for a few hours every now and then, while holding back my american wedding download.
nismo
08-28-2003, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by k2-dawg
DSL is better.... sorry Pappy.
all i can get on my road is dsl so it is better then nothing but i have dail up (sucks)
Pappy
08-28-2003, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by chucked
, while holding back my american wedding download.
:eek: i can download stuff now:eek:
QuadJunkies
08-28-2003, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
:eek: i can download stuff now:eek: LOL... I have cable and though I pay alot more for it, it beats Dial up anyday...;) I was stoked the first thing I done was go to wyoduners website and view EVERYONE of his duning vids.....:D
kxrider
08-28-2003, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
man this is soooo fast now:D i hope i can get it in my new house:(
man i got cable and i hate it so much, the first 3-5 months it kicked *** so fast, but now it hardly ever connects its worse than aol hope u dont get the same prob
Pappy
08-28-2003, 05:51 AM
lmao...i just watched all the site videos:D
QuadJunkies
08-28-2003, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
lmao...i just watched all the site videos:D Kenny.I need to get my vids up there on Exriders :macho So far I have around 6 I think......
jay's 300
08-28-2003, 05:53 AM
I have cable and it's never messed up! I would do w/out be4 I would go back w/ dial-up! :macho Pappy w/ download capability= :eek2: :blah:
RIjon
08-28-2003, 05:56 AM
Who cares what is 'Better'
Welcome to the REAL intarweb Pappy ;)
You will never go back
If ya do have cable your pc is open to the world so a firewall or purchase a reuter to fix the problem. Mines been hacked 2 times causing me to rebuild my pc....:mad:
Pappy
08-28-2003, 06:21 AM
yeah im trying to see how to configure my norton anti virus now
ghost_ryder
08-28-2003, 06:23 AM
Mines been hacked 2 times causing me to rebuild my pc....
did you go with a high compression motherboard? lol :D :blah:
XANDADA
08-28-2003, 06:28 AM
I've been spoiled here at work, t1 lines. AT home its a dial-up, which I haven't used in over a month.
cjpoole1
08-28-2003, 06:37 AM
In the long run DSL is better. Trust me I'm a communications technician.
k2-dawg
08-28-2003, 06:58 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong.....but don't you share bandwidth with other people who are in your same hub with cable, so the more people on-line in your hub the slower your access? And with DSL (Direct Subscriber Line) your connected even tho you're connected through a hub you don't share the bandwith?
I mean, I've heard of people with cable having their access speeds vary depending on the internet usage demand, and I (w/DSL) have not had any noticable change in speed no matter when I'm on-line.
Either way you go, once you go broadband you'll never go back (to dial up)!
Adam202
08-28-2003, 07:16 AM
Cable owns dsl, my freind has dsl and it is just as fast but he has way more problems than me, he has to connect every time, id rather have cable with norton anyday. i very very rarely have problems with my cable.
k2-dawg
08-28-2003, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Adam202
Cable owns dsl, my freind has dsl and it is just as fast but he has way more problems than me, he has to connect every time, id rather have cable with norton anyday. i very very rarely have problems with my cable.
Connect w/DSL??? I'm always connected w/DSL.
Adam202
08-28-2003, 07:41 AM
yea hes gotta connect everytime, i thought all dsl was like that... i must be wrong, my cable is always connected too.
cable here w/ comcast
good stuff :devil:
yea pappy..be sure to get a good firewall...norton is good..but i ahve mcafee and my old computer was still hacked into...forutnaterly it wasnt very costly..jsut a minor hack that deleted all of my pictures......on my new computer (dell 4600) i now have mcafee firewall, windows XP firewall.and the firewall in the router...havent had any problems since
k2-dawg
08-28-2003, 08:28 AM
Agreed nacsracer..... you must have a good firewall! Router is a must. imho.
YLW400
08-28-2003, 08:37 AM
It sure seems that my computer had gotten slower.....I have cable...it used to haul the mail, but it's gotten slower....any quick remedies?? I do delete my temp internet files and such, but that doesn't help..........
Originally posted by YLW400
It sure seems that my computer had gotten slower.....I have cable...it used to haul the mail, but it's gotten slower....any quick remedies?? I do delete my temp internet files and such, but that doesn't help.......... its not your connnection..my old cpu did that..time for a computer inside upgrade
k2-dawg
08-28-2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by YLW400
It sure seems that my computer had gotten slower.....I have cable...it used to haul the mail, but it's gotten slower....any quick remedies?? I do delete my temp internet files and such, but that doesn't help..........
Do you know if other people in your neighborhood use cable to access internet?
YLW400
08-28-2003, 08:43 AM
Oh geez, how much is that going to run me?
YLW400
08-28-2003, 08:44 AM
I doubt it, I live in Harrington.....lmao :eek:
RIjon
08-28-2003, 09:11 AM
DSL is Distance Dependant
The Closer you are to the Provider 'hub,whateveryouwantotcallit' the higher the speeds will be
Yes Cable can get Whored out in communities but for the lot of use that is not a problem
Like I said .... who gives a ho0t what is 'better'
It's ALL better than Dial-up
That is all
k2-dawg
08-28-2003, 09:15 AM
end of discussion. someone please close this thread.
Originally posted by k2-dawg
end of discussion. someone please close this thread.
nope, I just called to have my cable internet installed. I have seen DSL and Cable in my area.... Cable blows it out of the water. The only DSL around here that competes with it is the business DSL line which is ALOT more than cable. It all depends on your area... DSL vs Cable.
Eric
Myns stel faaaaaaaaaassssss :scary:
batgeek
08-28-2003, 10:55 AM
ahhh my area of expertise!!
DSL is better than cable.
the upgrade-ability of DSL and the amount of bandwidth available thru a DEDICATED line to one's house, far exceeds the abilities of current cable networks. period.
yes, DSL is distance dependent, but if you are close enough to your CO and have the choice between the two, you'd be an idiot to pick cable.
let me say this though...once gigabit ethernet is available to homes, its all gonna be slow :D
Pappy
08-28-2003, 10:56 AM
i was chattin with the cable guy and he told me dsl in my area was being shut down....said it was to much of an expense to the cable companies
Originally posted by batgeek
ahhh my area of expertise!!
DSL is better than cable.
the upgrade-ability of DSL and the amount of bandwidth available thru a DEDICATED line to one's house, far exceeds the abilities of current cable networks. period.
yes, DSL is distance dependent, but if you are close enough to your CO and have the choice between the two, you'd be an idiot to pick cable.
let me say this though...once gigabit ethernet is available to homes, its all gonna be slow :D I have cable and a friend of mine, that live exactly one street over from me, has DSL. There is no comparison for me? The fastest he has ever downloaded anything is like 34k where as i hit over 100k all the time. It must really depend on the area.
cjpoole1
08-28-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Taco
I have cable and a friend of mine, that live exactly one street over from me, has DSL. There is no comparison for me? The fastest he has ever downloaded anything is like 34k where as i hit over 100k all the time. It must really depend on the area.
34K is slower than dial-up. He should call his provider and have his line checked. The company I work for will not install DSL unless it sync's up at 1472K. My DSL never falls under 1472K and I'm almost 4 miles from my CO
Originally posted by cjpoole1
34K is slower than dial-up. He should call his provider and have his line checked. The company I work will not install DSL unless it sync's up at 1472K. My DSL never falls under 1472K and I'm almost 4 miles from my CO We are at just over a mile from the CO but more people in this area have about the same results. i was just using him for reference:D
batgeek
08-28-2003, 01:04 PM
is he subscribed to the largest bandwith service available through that provider?
if the provider is worth a sh*t, they would offer various bandwidth packages.
the maximum that cable can support to one computer is 1.5Mbps, if everyone on the cable grid is subscribed to 1.5M then during peak times you will not be able to access the entire bandwidth alloted to you.
the max available to a DSL user is 2.3Mbps dedicated to that one computer, you don't share that with anyone. and that is within the 22K feet distance from the CO.
user101
08-28-2003, 01:05 PM
im stuck with d-up i cant even get 56k here. it stays at 28.8k.it sucks so bad but ive gotten used to it. the cable doesnt come out here and im to poor to get the dsl
Originally posted by user101
im stuck with d-up i cant even get 56k here. it stays at 28.8k.it sucks so bad but ive gotten used to it. the cable doesnt come out here and im to poor to get the dsl is dsl realy that much more expenisve that aol?
k2-dawg
08-28-2003, 03:29 PM
Thanks batgeek for the DSL explanation!
My DSL is 34.95 a month, benefit FAR exceeds the cost.... for me.
TDBRPH
08-28-2003, 03:48 PM
12,000 posts on dial up......... Dang !!!
Pappy
08-28-2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by TDBRPH
12,000 posts on dial up......... Dang !!!
:muscle:
sly400ex
08-28-2003, 04:28 PM
Pappy, or anyone else..go to this site and test your uo abd down link speeds. Go to www.dslreports.com then on the left side, click on "our tools" then near the bottom it says speed tests. Then just follow the instructions. Here's my results...not too bad for DSL, but I wish it were quicker:rolleyes:
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/309691;106794;d605d027f6f041b0c17d0f27b1955c75;2.0 ;www.dslreports.com/1062127307
chucked
08-28-2003, 04:31 PM
I TOLD U CABLE WAS BETTER!!!!! lol
my download speed : 947744 bps, or 947 kbps.
my upload speed : 239234 bps, or 239 kbps.
947 / 239!!!
batgeek
08-28-2003, 04:36 PM
a 2.3Mbps DSL line would make you cry.
cable cant get anywhere near 2Mbps.
TheRedRebel17
08-28-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by chucked
I TOLD U CABLE WAS BETTER!!!!! lol
my download speed : 947744 bps, or 947 kbps.
my upload speed : 239234 bps, or 239 kbps.
947 / 239!!!
your
download «1657 kbps
your
upload «246 kbps
OWNED:muscle: :muscle: :blah:
batgeek
08-28-2003, 04:46 PM
hehe...
your
download «6765 kbps
your
upload «8534 kbps
i'm at work though on an OC3 line :D
at home on Charter cable i'm usually 1.5-1.6Mbps down, 250-260 up.
chucked
08-28-2003, 04:51 PM
holy crap thats fast! actually mines slow right now. I have an internet speedometer that came from norton utilities and its only about 1/4 right now its usually 2/3-3/4
TheRedRebel17
08-28-2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by batgeek
[B]
your
download «6765 kbps
your
upload «8534 kbps [B]
:eek2: :eek2: :eek:
KASCHAK
08-28-2003, 04:59 PM
lol they both suck... i used to have t1. lol and my other box had a t3 connection. woooot like 80mb a second on t3
CHAUNCY
08-28-2003, 05:12 PM
I got 1577/289 then selected a different place to test and got 1732/238......fast enough for me:)
Here are the results of the test on my computer.
Say Pappy, did someone griping the other day about 56K have anything to do with you getting cable?;)
2003-08-29 00:11:33 EST: 39 / 16
Your download speed : 39967 bps, or 39 kbps.
A 4.8 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 16440 bps, or 16 kbps.
Your connection hardly qualified as broadband, at least in that test
batgeek
08-28-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by KASCHAK
lol they both suck... i used to have t1. lol and my other box had a t3 connection. woooot like 80mb a second on t3
you cant get 80M from a T3, max is 44.5M
a T3 is 28 T1s. a T1 is 1.44M
an OC3 max bandwidth is 155Mbps. i have our segregated and throttled at certain points for certain applications within our system.
dont fib when there is a network engineer on the boards. :D
Originally posted by batgeek
dont fib when there is a network engineer on the boards. :D
ah!, he told you! woof woof!:blah:
KASCHAK
08-28-2003, 07:05 PM
i wasnt sure of the exact specs but i wasnt gunna saynuttin because i didnt think i was being watched i better watch now:confused2
danney f
08-28-2003, 09:51 PM
this is mine (dial up)
your
download «42 kbps
your
upload «26 kbps
:eek2: :eek2: :confused2 :ermm:
2003-08-29 08:04:15 EST: 2041 / 487
Your download speed : 2041769 bps, or 2041 kbps.
A 249.2 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 487032 bps, or 487 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!
it keeps me happy:D
blackraptor01
08-29-2003, 02:25 AM
Hey Batgeek - Where did you get your information about cable internet from? I work for Comcast Cable in the Pgh area and everything you said about download speeds are very untrue. We are running at 3 Mb download speeds. I would know I test speeds everyday. Our largest subscriber based areas are still getting 2.4 Mb downloads. Our uploads may not be the fastest with only 256 Kb but most people do not upload alot of files and if they do we have higher tiers of service for them. We find that most people that complain about slow speeds have equipment problems - slow machines, low resources, registry problems (everyone with cable or dsl should goto www.speedguide.net and then goto broadband tools and then SG TCP/IP analyzer and make sure they are optomized for a broadband internet connection). Also for cable internet to work at its peak performance you should have a designated line ran from the the first split in your home directly to the computer. I have nothing bad to say about DSL it is a viable solution for some people. This was not to flame you but instead to inform people. As with the Mickey Dunlop sponsors thread - I am just supporting my sponsers since they pay the mortgage...:D
Originally posted by blackraptor01
Hey Batgeek - Where did you get your information about cable internet from? I work for Comcast Cable in the Pgh area and everything you said about download speeds are very untrue. We are running at 3 Mb download speeds. I would know I test speeds everyday. Our largest subscriber based areas are still getting 2.4 Mb downloads. Our uploads may not be the fastest with only 256 Kb but most people do not upload alot of files and if they do we have higher tiers of service for them. We find that most people that complain about slow speeds have equipment problems - slow machines, low resources, registry problems (everyone with cable or dsl should goto www.speedguide.net and then goto broadband tools and then SG TCP/IP analyzer and make sure they are optomized for a broadband internet connection). Also for cable internet to work at its peak performance you should have a designated line ran from the the first split in your home directly to the computer. I have nothing bad to say about DSL it is a viable solution for some people. This was not to flame you but instead to inform people. As with the Mickey Dunlop sponsors thread - I am just supporting my sponsers since they pay the mortgage...:D
Hey BlackRaptor, I'm in the PGH area (Dormont) and I should have it installed wednesday... just wondering what you did for Comcast? Installer?
sparky450AR
09-04-2003, 09:42 AM
we just got insight bb also....its amazing....you would think these forums (even the pages you havent looked at) were ran by cookies
Pappy
09-04-2003, 09:44 AM
well ive had it for like a week now....i dunno how i ever lived without it. i spend so much less time on the computer now...i love it!!!!
TheRedRebel17
09-04-2003, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
well ive had it for like a week now....i dunno how i ever lived without it. i spend so much less time on the computer now...i love it!!!!
doesnt take as long to download porno eh :uhoh::confused2
Yep, I finally got mine hooked up. I am very happy with my speed... using the download tests I am in the 3mbit range every time. I just downloaded a program (55mb) in 3 min... :D :D
just ran another test
Download Size 1000 KB
Download Time 2563 ms
Receive Buffer Not available
Transmission Speed 3121 Kb/s
What cost more.....................DSL or Cable b.c i am interested in getting one of them............let me know
:rolleyes:
Thanks
Nick
It depends where you live. My cable(adelphia) is 39.95 a month in Georgia. DSL is about the same. Check in your local area.
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