NEW TRX 450R is coming!!!!! **Post all 450R information here**

[Guy400]

From what the webcast said it seems as if Honda put an emphasis on reliability.

Did you all hear about the cam and carb mod directly from Honda for $299?

It's not a link to a pic it's a video of a couple guys standin around strokin the 450R....:eek:


Looks pretty good to me... If the 400ex parts fit it...it's possible i'llo be divorced before i get married.....:eek2: :eek: :eek2:

[Ryan]

Me like :eek2: :devil: .

[F-16Guy]

Well, I typed all of that for nothing....:mad:

[Pappy]

to all the people that said it was photoshop......:blah:

[LTandRaptorider]

Originally posted by Pappy
hahaha yeah RIF could be READ IT F***HEAD:devil: i geuss that is up to the person getting the RIF posted after another stupid question:D

:D :D :D Oh damn, I'm climbing back into my chair!!! That WAS one of my guesses... I just left a message on Rider11x's voice mail, playing the beginning of the New TRX video. He works steady afternoon, so I like breaking his stones.. last time I left a message of my revving engine on my LT out riding while he works... Of course that may come back to bite me in the a** some day. The new Honda looks good, maybe time to sell the Raptor and buy my first "Red" machine! :eek2:

[Andrew400ex]

not working

[TGW_400ex]

Originally posted by Ralph
:D :D

http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r1.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r2.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r3.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r5.jpg
http://www.randrcoatings.com/images/450r6.jpg

IT HAS A GAS TANK GUYS gz for a sec i thought u had to buy it extra:D

[killer03_300ex]

I LIKE ALOT WANT ONE NOW HAHAHAHAHAHa :devil:

[Pappy]

i reckon ill hold off and buy mine for xmas:p

santa gonna be comin down the drive way with a kick *** quad this year:devil:

[ralph2]

sup witht he front??? looks like the articat ..:rolleyes: ,, other then that looks nice :blah:

[dirty habits400]

here is a pic,didnt no how to put a strat link so i just typed it in check page 2 it has a lil info about it.http://www.glamisdunes.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=11114

[Bender]

That link worked for me. Looks good, although it still reminds me of the 400EX. I like it. But I don't know if it will be enough to beat the new Yammi. When will it go on sale I wonder?

[300XFST4602]

That is awsome , i don't think the other pic was real , but whatever , it looks sweet , i want one so bad now.

[Ironballs]

I am sure glad I waited for good old honda.

[Ralph]

**Ralph, resize the pic and then post it**

[phatswinn]

its beautiful, even if the audio dont work for me

[leonborg]

Hello boys .I am see the pics and a am very happy. It is like the new honda is longer than the 400 ex??it looks like a biger machine.....me parece ser un poco mas grande y no veo la hora de manejarlo....saludos:D

[Martin Blair]

god ddamn people y do you post in this huge thing, i have to look thre 88 pages just to find pics, start a new thread it will help us all :mad: :mad: :mad:

[TGW_400ex]

Originally posted by 300XFST4602
That is awsome , i don't think the other pic was real , but whatever , it looks sweet , i want one so bad now.


dude that look exactly like the one in the first photo but w/o the extra the first ones was real

does it have a battery? :confused:

Also the rear shock didnt look that nice in the video anyone know anything about it.

[400exNH]

I was just told that it's going to be offered with white plastics as well... Nice

[TGW_400ex]

I dont know aobut u guys but i like what i see instant boner:D

[2qk4u]

i just want to know whats up with the vise grips attached to the peg or the nerfbar?

Originally posted by 2qk4u
i just want to know whats up with the vise grips attached to the peg or the nerfbar?


The pic was taken at AC i think...the vise grip is holdin a piece on that i'm sure they were making... No biggy it doesn't come stock with it....:rolleyes:

[400ex45]

so does anyone know around what the price will be i need to figure out how long it will be intill i can buy one.

[K2Snow]

I saw the vid on the HRC website, got a bunch of pics of new honda. I guess everyone has already seen them though? If anyone wants the pics though, e mail me at codyx10@excite.com or IM me at masevoli5

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Rico
The pic was taken at AC i think...the vise grip is holdin a piece on that i'm sure they were making... No biggy it doesn't come stock with it....:rolleyes:

i wish it was a factory accessory...i need vise grips:(

[Guy400]

Now that the party has started :macho should we lock this thread?

[400ex45]

im at MMI and have a test tomarrow so i need to study some one tell me all the details of the crf450r :D

[Merriman]

Originally posted by Pappy
i wish it was a factory accessory...i need vise grips:(

I think every atv should come stock with a hammer and a role of duct tape in the tool compartment.:scary:

[One_Bad_400]

WOW that thing is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet:eek2:

Thats the least those peckers at Ac could do is give u a set of vice grips with they're nerfs then maybe u can break something with them when ur nerfs won't fit.

ahh man i hope quad tech comes out witha hood soon, and what the hell...kickstart only dammit....goddammit, i dont know how many times ive stalled it and restarted and didnt miss a beat because of m y trusty old start button, is that frame aluminum?

[flyin#5]

well sorry to say honda has dissapointed us to many years in a row.:( still im sure it will be sweet just not as sweet as i want.

[sparky450AR]

Originally posted by phatswinn
its beautiful, even if the audio dont work for me


that movie was like porn....you dont need audio :eek2:

[trx450r]

Originally posted by freeride132
ahh man i hope quad tech comes out witha hood soon, and what the hell...kickstart only dammit....goddammit, i dont know how many times ive stalled it and restarted and didnt miss a beat because of m y trusty old start button, is that frame aluminum?

Yeah, what he said!

I hope the rumor mill edition with electric start is offered later on!
I just found one good reason to own a Yamaha! Stop me before I turn blue.

[J-06]

YFZ .VS. 450R What a shoot out!..How about some real specs!

like price

[Honda4trax250x]

Originally posted by freeride132
is that frame aluminum?

the subframe is:ermm:

[sparky450AR]

is 335lbs a solid number?


im bleeding right now, and all blood is red:devil:

[Honda4trax250x]

Originally posted by sparky450AR
is 335lbs a solid number?

def. not. they always give lower weights on the specs. just about every single quad

[J-06]

Is 335 Lbs for real?

[Tommy 17]

i just heard the front has more suspension then the ds650 in travel:eek2:


and thats a realiable source...

[Pahrump]

Fellas 335 is not that far-fetched as the Yammy really is about 350 and the 450R does not have a starter nor a battery.

[J-06]

Ok Now when is it on the site?

[maddog440ex]

I hope they downsized the engine to 440cc like the yamaha to make it pro-production legal

Originally posted by maddog440ex
I hope they downsized the engine to 440cc like the yamaha to make it pro-production legal


I think it's a 439cc

[z400ACDC]

Originally posted by maddog440ex
I hope they downsized the engine to 440cc like the yamaha to make it pro-production legal
It is a 440 forward kick starter crf.

[Pahrump]

AREN'T they going to change the rule soon to 449-450cc's?

[250EXstud]

So who is goin to get a 04 400EX:D J/P this bike is awsome. I am keepin my 400 till next year and i will get an 05.

[honda350r]

That kick starter sux arse !!!!!!!!!!!

[400ex45]

i will admit that the kick start does sux but i think we just got spoiled with the electric start. look at the r's people still race those and can manage it so i think i can get use to it.

[Z-Mon]

it's gonna blow not having reverse, like for me i wish my blaster had it cuz i am always gettin in tight situations, it's gonna suck pushing that thing around.

7600 bucks for that ugly *** lookin thing? i think i will go with the hot looks of the yfz450 thank you.

[Bender]

Why do alot of people miss the point? The 450R is aimed more towards racing. You don't need reverse or elecrtic start.
It may not be the quad for you if you need such things. We finally get something serious from Honda and people gripe about the looks, reverse, etc... It looks like a good package to me. I was gonna go the CRF engine route in my 400EX, now I won't have too. I'm very happy just seeing it. :D

[D-4our]

amen to that!

[Evan400ex]

Yep, its a kickstart. Just watched the video on it at HRC. I think it looks bad *****. And those pics were real. Looks exactly the same.

[Sportrax10]

Where are you people getting the stats? Like the weight and the price?

its gonna be like 7600 bucks

[400ex45]

were do u watch that video at i cant find it

[cgmxer115]

Originally posted by maddog440ex
I hope they downsized the engine to 440cc like the yamaha to make it pro-production legal 450 is legal in Pro Production ...you have to be 440 in PRO

[trx450r]

I just viewed the videos at HRC and they are coming out with a CRF250R and "soon to be released" CRF250X The X will have electric start.

I guess some of us will have to keep riding our old rides until they come out with the TRX450X

I seriously doubt Honda will overlook the potential market to millions of trail riders and the occasional rich fat guy who is not willing to kick over a 450

[VIC]

Being used to an R I like the fact it doesn't have electric start or reverse. Up untill the yfz and now the 450R I didn't like 4-Strokes at all. I was more old school but these 2 have changed my mind.

okay...im happy with my 400ex right now but i do want something faster. I dont race & ride mostly open trails. I dont have alot of money but i could get a loan for the remaining balaance of what i dont get for my quad & pay it off $150 a month. Should i get new trx450r or keep 400ex or get cheaper & faster atv? I dont have that much money but if this thing is really worth it then i'll get it. :confused:

[mxdave28]

Good lord talk about a bunch of i dont know info :rolleyes: .....good grief 6hrs ago there was 74 pages to this thread and now there is 88! and most of it is worthless info.....from the so called"pics" i have seen im not impressed so far, i think the thing looks nasty BUT!, i am not and will not make my personal and official opinion untilll i see one in person and up close. i love reading all these threads with the youngins talking like they were the ones that made this new honda buahahaha you guys crack me up.....so ok its not 12:10 am here on the east coast...where is the info and real "official" pics at??

[zzbudzz]

it looks alot like the 400ex? but, i guess .........thats ok?

[PATTE440]

Well just use your head and not get into thoes tight situations where you need reverse. Yes i know sometimes it just happens but 85% you can solve by thinking.

Well since the new honda has a kick starter i see a lot of peopl dont like that. A few things on how that is good...
Less weight cuz you wont have a starter or a battery
Wont have to worry about the battery ever going out.
It is a race quad so the weight you lose but not having the starting system will help out the power to weight ratio.

[Narly R]

That thing is awsome, but kinda resembles the looks of the V-Force....:ermm: I cant belive it, the wait is over, now i just want some of yall to get one and tell me how they are, but that wont be for a while....:D


YIPPPPY!!!!!!!!:D

[BIGLIZ34]

where did u guys get all the info like weight and price

[mxdave28]

well narly where is the officical stuff at dude??

[suzukiz400rider]

they dont have any right to state it as the new r. Not even close, they had there thumbs up there as for this long and thats all they could come up with, sorry guys yamaha beat-em to the punch and will soon be the leading atv seller if they are not already, as they are not scared to hit the market hard,

Honda only atv that made the market was the 250r, how dare they put a crf engine is a 400ex and call it the new r

Yamaha makes the Raptor, Yzf450, Blaster, Banshee, Warrior

Honda only makes 3 sport quads and they are all behind

Yamaha has the ballz to show the world whats up, even by still offering the one and only Banshee, and 2 stroke blaster when everyone ran for the hills.

Sorry honda fans, You held your breath for too long and your face tuned blue.

[Mr_Bub400ex]

man, im speachless.... looks sweet as hell....totally gotta get me own of those... i hope the arens nerfs fit it though... and ill be putting my razrs on it...

[suzukiz400rider]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????
Ugly ugly ugly ugly what a shame

[Castor-426ex]

i have some questions for the experts



what carb on the trx?
frame is steel or aluminum or chromoly?

hp range???



other than that its mine lol


honda really outdid themselves on this one....guys...we are finally getting what we have asked for.......

[exrider44]

Where are the pics?

[OregonYFZ]

It has no aluminum frame. No DOHC. No five titanium valves. and Ugly plastic. I am happy I bought my YFZ and did not wait. My neighbor has been waiting all summer and he saw the press release and almost cried. Honda has turned another die hard Honda fan into a Yamaha owner. How sad.:( :( :(

[exrider44]

where is this info coming from with no actual specs or pics?

[suzukiz400rider]

Honda should retire, the game has went to yamaha, ever since the raptor came out, they only offer 3 sport atvs, which are all sad
Yamaha offers the most atvs and they all kick ***.

[Castor-426ex]

wait till you ride it;)

then talk like a dumbass:)

[honda400ex27]

I used to be a Honda fan.....i was all pumped up about the coming of the TRX450R but now i am really disappointed....based as the same thing as that friggin 400ex, but just a different motor...like most say...what a crying shame....all these years they could have been making something nice.....I shouldnt be bashing it yet because it could very easily be better than the Yamaha....look at what cannondale had in there first year of production...aluminum frame, 440, race ready ride!....Honda has been in it for many years and could have something really awesome....I know they leave it up to the owner to do all there own custom modifications to keep these aftermarket companies in business....i mean u can go out and buy a dirtbike and its ready to race....why dont they do that with there quads, by the time u go out and buy decent shocks, extended axle and a-arms, handlebars, nerfs, he would have over 15,000 in it...my big fuss is, why dont Honda have this stuff already on there.....I know one thing...if i had the money to buy either it would definately be the Yamaha...

[suzukiz400rider]

I have no intentions of even looking at one at a dealer, watch how many people who had put money down on one get there deposit back and switch over the Yamaha

Not saying it wont be a contender, but the looks alone show how much they care about you guys, how long did you wait for them to build this so called new "R" not even close to it, keep your 400ex's and stuff a crf engine in it, should cost the same

[Max400]

you have been bashing the 450 all nite! If you like yamahas so much why didn't you buy one? you say yamaha's have more quads and they all kick ***!!!!!have you ever owned a yamaha, I have owned one! That's why I ride Honda now!!!!!
go buy a Yamaha or shut the h*ll up already, you ride a suzuki LOL they don't have anything that would even touch the new 450:blah:

[suzukiz400rider]

I own a dealer ship and www.bansheesonlyracing.com
I have owned almost every quad made to date except for a cannondale, as for buying a yamaha I have 4 of them, and the z400 which has been modded and raced against the yzf and it does a good job of hanging in there. the" new 450" lol

[JOEX]

Originally posted by Castor-426ex
wait till you ride it;)

then talk like a dumbass:)
Them are some good words:macho

At least wait till you hear what the specs are:rolleyes:


Joe

[suzukiz400rider]

Hey read the forums, and posts, see how many die hard honda guys held there breath and turned blue. Honda waited to long, game over.:D

[450bret350]

honda site is down for maintenance

[suzukiz400rider]

specs, they cant even give you guys specs on time.

[Max400]

[QUOTE]I own a dealer ship and www.bansheesonlyracing.com
I have owned almost every quad made to date except for a cannondale, as for buying a yamaha I have 4 of them, and the z400 which has been modded and raced against the yzf and it does a good job of hanging in there. the" new 450" lol

Your Web site LOL

[suzukiz400rider]

hey I am making money dont know about you.

[Max400]

suzuki rider why don't you go back to blueballs or traxx or what ever!!! I love hondas! I think I'll go hang out at Bluetraxx and start sh*t............Not

[suzukiz400rider]

I am not even signed up with bluetraxx. Read the posts even your fellow honda guys are posting about it. How can they state thats the new r is basically what I am saying, I dont care what they say it has, its ungly so it better make up for it or everyone will switch to the yami, as I know since I sell a ton of body hop ups for quads, people want a good looking bike.

[Max400]

Yes Yamaha (Raptor and the 450yzf) look good that is the truth! But.......I like reliability over looks. All yamaha riders should feel about this one thing, as a Honda goes whizzzn by you!!! Yes my Yamaha is sitting here broke down, but I look DAMN GOOD!!!!

[jgfarmsracer]

$6400



Originally posted by RidinHard
its gonna be like 7600 bucks

I think the new honda looks like a TURD!!!!!!:devil:

[jgfarmsracer]

no let's see how big and stupid we can get




Originally posted by Guy400
Now that the party has started :macho should we lock this thread?

[suzukiz400rider]

Honda does build reliable bikes, but if you follow your repair manauls any bike you own will last, I got an original 87 banshee with its 4 cylinder set on it, meaning I went over .080" and started fresh 3 more times with new cylinders, and have yet had to replace anything other then my top end. Bike is all stock. You just have to take care of whatever you own. But the most billet proof honda is the 300ex, which I use in the winter, the raptor sucks

[Max400]

Just given you a hard time suzuki rider............ no flame intended:D I have a warrior as a back up quad and my dad has a beartracker(power house) LOL.............

they dont have any right to state it as the new r. Not even close, they had there thumbs up there as for this long and thats all they could come up with, sorry guys yamaha beat-em to the punch and will soon be the leading atv seller if they are not already, as they are not scared to hit the market hard,

There is some truth in that statement but it is also very "baited" and one sided.


Not saying it wont be a contender, but the looks alone show how much they care about you guys, how long did you wait for them to build this so called new "R" not even close to it, keep your 400ex's and stuff a crf engine in it, should cost the same
Well its still to be seen what this new machine is all about.

Though I agree its not the best looking quad and the plastics dont appear to be the most functional the basic premise of a EX with a more powerfull engine with liquid cooling and some other small changes was all that was really "needed" but that was 2 years ago. The trend to this style of plastics isnt my flavor but I cant agree with your comment either.

So now I guess many were just expecting more, and sure its more than the 400ex but just not what some thought all the wait was over. Then there are those who understood this machine was in exixtance for a while and Honda was just lowering the amount of 400ex's in stock.


I own a dealer ship and www.bansheesonlyracing.comI have owned almost every quad made to date except for a cannondale, as for buying a yamaha I have 4 of them, and the z400 which has been modded and raced against the yzf and it does a good job of hanging in there. the" new 450" lol

First off you need to stop posting and get to work on your website quick, seems your missing some stuff like anything behind the main page. Get to work.

Too bad you never owned the cannondale, it is more hi tech than everything else you mentioned and didnt ask you to bleed red or blue.



Anyhow enough of this BS till we all get more info. The pics are up all over the net and Honda will have them on their site also. Now the thing is to get one and figure out what it has, needs and wants etc so anyone can make their decision.

My decision for now is waiting till more info is out and all the excitement is over till I make a decision at all.

[QuadJunkies]

someone posted this in another thread.http://reflectweb.reflectsystems.com/templateFactory.aspx?Template=Honda1/Honda1_Launched.htm&WCID=e2a88431-9cdc-4b27-bab0-926e2144dd89&Name=Honda%20Test&BaseRoot=66.150.223.203&Customer=honda hope it works.:) Seeing it now it loks alot better than the previous pic I saw. I cant wait to see it rip!!!!:blah: :macho

[hondarider2006]

well I just went to hondas site and there is nothing new....I was gonna call my dealer today but never got around to it...guss I will do that tomorrow

[Woody_YFZ]

Their site is down for maintenance right now.

[shamisc]

Originally posted by Woody_YFZ
Their site is down for maintenance right now.

Which means they are updating it's contents! :D :D :cool: :eek2: :bandit:

[Dan_Guetter]

really?????

[Mr_Bub400ex]

update quicker dammit

[310Rduner]

Originally posted by Shift_DVS
really?????

hopefully...

anyone check if the specs are up on Hrc's website....???

post it if ya got it.;)

[jamiesel]

New prices in Australia!!!! More then 10 percent




The price of the TRX400EX and TRX250EX has been rolled back.

These model prices are permanently reduced and offer fantastic value for money.

WAS:

TRX400EX - $11,190 inc. GST
TRX250EX - $ 8,490 inc. GST

NOW:

The new RRP for the TRX400EX is $9,990.00* inc. GST
The new RRP for the TRX250EX is $7,990.00* inc. GST

* Does not include freight, pre-delivery.

[URL=http://www.hondamotorcycles.com.au/news/trx_ex+price+breakdown.htm]

[skidplate]

The specsEngine Type 450cc liquid-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke

Bore and Stroke 94.0mm x 64.8mm

Compression Ratio 10.5:1

Valve Train Unicam; four-valve

Carburetion Keihin 42.0mm with throttle position sensor (TPS)

Ignition CD with electronic advance

Starter Forward kick


DRIVE TRAIN


Transmission Five-speed

Final Drive O-ring-sealed chain


CHASSIS, SUSPENSION, BRAKE & WHEELS


Front Suspension Independent double-wishbone with Showa shocks, featuring adjustable spring preload, rebound and compression damping; 8.4-inch travel

Rear Suspension Pro-Link with single Showa shock featuring adjustable spring preload, rebound and compression damping; 9.0-inch travel

Front Brakes Dual hydraulic 174.0mm discs with twin-piston calipers

Rear Brake Single hydraulic 190.0mm disc with single-piston caliper

Front Tires 22 x 7-10 knobby radial

Rear Tires 20 x 10-9 knobby radial


DIMENSIONS


Length 72.6 inches

Width 46.3 inches

Height 43.6 inches

Wheelbase 49.2 inches

Seat Height 32.6 inches

Ground Clearance 4.2 inches

Dry Weight 350.0 pounds

Fuel Capacity 3.2 gallons


OTHER


Age Recommendation For highly experienced riders 16 years of age and older.

Options Consult owner’s manual for optional HRC Racing Kit parts.

Available Colors Red

Model ID TRX450R

mon !

Originally posted by skidplate
The specsEngine Type 450cc liquid-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke

Bore and Stroke 94.0mm x 64.8mm

Compression Ratio 10.5:1

Valve Train Unicam; four-valve

Carburetion Keihin 42.0mm with throttle position sensor (TPS)

Ignition CD with electronic advance

Starter Forward kick


DRIVE TRAIN


Transmission Five-speed

Final Drive O-ring-sealed chain


CHASSIS, SUSPENSION, BRAKE & WHEELS


Front Suspension Independent double-wishbone with Showa shocks, featuring adjustable spring preload, rebound and compression damping; 8.4-inch travel

Rear Suspension Pro-Link with single Showa shock featuring adjustable spring preload, rebound and compression damping; 9.0-inch travel

Front Brakes Dual hydraulic 174.0mm discs with twin-piston calipers

Rear Brake Single hydraulic 190.0mm disc with single-piston caliper

Front Tires 22 x 7-10 knobby radial

Rear Tires 20 x 10-9 knobby radial


DIMENSIONS


Length 72.6 inches

Width 46.3 inches

Height 43.6 inches

Wheelbase 49.2 inches

Seat Height 32.6 inches

Ground Clearance 4.2 inches

Dry Weight 350.0 pounds

Fuel Capacity 3.2 gallons


OTHER


Age Recommendation For highly experienced riders 16 years of age and older.

Options Consult owner’s manual for optional HRC Racing Kit parts.

Available Colors Red

Model ID TRX450R

mon ! :eek:

[TGW_400ex]

All these people bashin the new honda will be the ones that will be sayin man I wish I had that new 450R:D

[joe0899]

go to honda's website and click on new 04' models. there is a ton of pics on the and it is only MSRP $6499

[NTPracing22]

yall didn't believe me about the forward kick did ya?;)

[dannyboy20]

TRX450R

$6,499 BASE MSRP

Available January 2004

Desert, woods, track—the all-new TRX450R doesn't care where it's going to dominate. It just will, thanks to its incredibly potent package featuring a CRF450R-derived engine and Pro-Link suspension. Quite simply, there has never been a higher-performing sport ATV anywhere.

[Pro400EXC]

The Frame is def steel,but the sub-frame looks to be pretty beefy aluminum....

W/ a Silencer like that,I hope she has a nice tone from the facotry,unlike the Yamaha....

Alos the 1st thing I'd like to gank off it is that godforsaken front end...

I'll weld me some 400ex mounts on if I have tooo....

Also,looks like a 400ex swinger,so all your carrier's and axles and stuff may fit...shocks tooo?

[cjpoole1]

Originally posted by Castor-426ex
wait till you ride it;)

then talk like a dumbass:)
From what i understand, everyone who was a test rider or rode a pre production model now own YFZ's:eek:

[dannyboy20]

well i think it looks good. Dammm good. It may seam ugly now but everyone will get used to it just like they do with any new product.

[tryken]

I think this is going to sell better than the YFZ.

1. Its a Honda

2. I think the YFZ will sell better with the people who truly want to race, but the 450r will sell better with the everyday trailrider/casual racer.


When are we going to see 450rriders.com

http://powersports.honda.com/preview/prevTRX450R.html#

;)

[trueblue450]

more travel on yfz,
electric start and still the same wieght as your kick
already race proven
you can get em now
five titanium valves
and looks a hell of a lot better

plus much more!

get the yfz!:eek:

[dhines]

Here are some FACTS - finally. Much as it pains me, I think itis obvious that the Yamaha is superior in nearly every category...


Bore and Stroke:
450R - 94.0mm x 64.8mm
YFZ450 - 95mm x 62mm

Compression Ratio:
450R - 10.5:1
YFZ450 - 11.9:1

Valve Train:
450R - Unicam; four-valve
YFZ450 - Titanium 5-Valve DOHC

Carburetion:
450R - Keihin 42.0mm with throttle position sensor (TPS)
YFZ450 - Keihin 39mm FCR w/ Throttle Position Sensor

Ignition:
450R - CD with electronic advance
YFZ450 - DC - CDI

Starter:
450R - Forward kick
YFZ450 - Electric (rear kicker kit optional)

Transmision:
450R - 5-speed Manual Clutch
YFZ450 - 5-Speed Manual Clutch

Front Suspension:
450R - 8.4"
YFZ450 - 9.1”

Rear Suspension:
450R - 9" (Pro-Link)
YFZ450 - 10.1”

Front Brakes:
450R - Dual hydraulic 174.0mm discs with twin-piston calipers
YFZ450 - Dual Hydraulic Disc, Twin Piston

Rear Brakes:
450R - Single hydraulic 190.0mm disc with single-piston caliper
YFZ450 - Hydraulic Disc

Length:
450R - 72.6 inches
YFZ450 - 72.4”

Width:
450R - 46.3 inches
YFZ450 - 46.1"

Height:
450R - 43.6 inches
YFZ450 - 42.9"

Wheelbase:
450R - 49.2 inches
YFZ450 - 50.4"

Seat Height: 32.6 inches
450R - 32.6 inches
YFZ450 - 31.5"

Ground Clearance: 4.2 inches
450R - 4.2 inches
YFZ450 - 4.4"

Dry Weight:
450R - 350.0 pounds
YFZ450 - 350 Lbs.

Fuel Capacity:
450R - 3.2 gallons
YFZ450 - 2.6 gallons

[trueblue450]

Honda vs Yami
Engine Type 450cc liquid-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke vs

Type 439cc, 4-Stroke Single, Liquid Cooled w/ Fan, Titanium 5-Valve DOHC

Bore and Stroke 94.0mm x 64.8mm vs 95mm x 62mm

Compression Ratio 10.5:1 vs 11.9:1

Valve Train Unicam; four-valve vs Titanium 5-Valve

Carburetion Keihin 42.0mm with throttle position sensor (TPS) vs Keihin 39mm FCR w/ Throttle Position Sensor

Starter Forward kick vs Electric


Front Suspension Independent double-wishbone with Showa shocks, featuring adjustable spring preload, rebound and compression damping; 8.4-inch travel vs Independent Double Wishbone, 9.1” w/ Rebound, Compression and Threaded Preload Adjustment

Rear Suspension Pro-Link with single Showa shock featuring adjustable spring preload, rebound and compression damping; 9.0-inch travel vs Aluminum Swing Arm, 10.1” w/ Rebound, Compression and Threaded Preload Adjustment

Length 72.6 inches

Width 46.3 inches

Height 43.6 inches

Wheelbase 49.2 inches

Seat Height 32.6 inches

Ground Clearance 4.2 inches


vs


L x W x H 72.4” x 46.1” x 42.9”
Seat Height 31.5”
Wheelbase 50.4”
Ground Clearance 4.4”






DRY WIEGHT both 350



this should be interesting!!

[honda350r]

Originally posted by NTPracing22
yall didn't believe me about the forward kick did ya?;)

Why would we want to believe that? I think it is absolutly wrong that Honda only put a kicker on it ! BOOOOOOOO! Lame arse Honda!!!!!!!

I can see it now all my buddies with the Yamaha leaving me behind while I try and start the hot TRX450 !


Honda BOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOO !!!

[trueblue450]

Originally posted by honda350r
Why would we want to believe that? I think it is absolutly wrong that Honda only put a kicker on it ! BOOOOOOOO! Lame arse Honda!!!!!!!

I can see it now all my buddies with the Yamaha leaving me behind while I try and start the hot TRX450 !


Honda BOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOO !!!

just kick you lazy arse!!!! :devil:

[dhines]

No, I agree - I won't consider a 4-stroke kicker for cross country racing. I've ridden a CRF and it can be a real ****** to kick over when its hot...

[400grl]

I don't see the frame being similar to the 400ex as a bad thing - why change great geometry? AND - if it's similar enough, then my aftermarket goodies will bolt on and save me a TON of money...........one question. Does anyone know if this thing has room to bore? The looks grow on me.....I will be watching to see how the Yami and Honda compare on the track!

[DaIronFist]

Not available until 2004! Blows. Gonna have to wait three + months for comparision testing!?! Why release info then? And remember with the Yamaha you can remove the electric start and drop another 15-20 pounds! This will be interesting but by the time it is released it will be old news.....

[250EXstud]

why hasn't the honda site updated?

[MadRox75]

What do you mean?
I was just on the preview link from the last thread.
I scoped out all the pics.

I really hope that my 400ex mods will bolt up to this one...

[trueblue450]

Originally posted by DaIronFist
Not available until 2004! Blows. Gonna have to wait three + months for comparision testing!?! Why release info then? And remember with the Yamaha you can remove the electric start and drop another 15-20 pounds! This will be interesting but by the time it is released it will be old news.....

where do people get 20 lbs.. its like 8 lbs you save with kickstart. if you take off the stock exhaust you save 10lbs!