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redrider808
08-02-2003, 08:16 PM
ok i was just looking at the new issue of dirt wheels .
(september)

on page 156 theres a pic of bill ballance .
under the pic is the heading

it's going to take more than a stolen quad to deny bill his fourth
championship this year.
look for bill to be riding a new production-based aluminum framed LRD/honda before the season is out.
When Honda returns they will want that 1# plate

i think some one just let the cat out the bag .
Bretmd94
08-02-2003, 08:46 PM
you sure????

LRD makes aluminum frames.

I dont think they let anything out.
JUSTINcredible
08-02-2003, 09:13 PM
and it says 'production based' i think that means a bike engine in a aluminum chassis like they said
redrider808
08-02-2003, 09:26 PM
this is what got me thinking
(look for bill to be riding a new production-based aluminum framed LRD/honda before the season is out.
When Honda returns they will want that 1# plate)

don't production-based mean stock as in pro production.
class . i may be wrong im not up on the rules .

but the thing about when honda returns got me thinking
z400ACDC
08-02-2003, 09:40 PM
Bill has a new YFZ 450. He is going to try it and the new Honda out.
Guy400
08-02-2003, 11:31 PM
I do believe that in the Pro-Production class you have to run stock frames (that can be gussetted). If Ballance is going to run an aluminum-framed quad in the Pro-Production class it's going to have to be one off of Honda's assembly line.
BigThumper33
08-02-2003, 11:38 PM
Guy is right. In pro production have you to run a stock chasis and it can be gussested but only for strength. You can not change any geometry of the stock chasis. The honda 450 is coming in chicago at the atv dealershow in sept...
cdalejef
08-03-2003, 01:43 AM
Bill has an Alum. framed LTZ that he will race once he has the points locked up. If I'm not mistaken, 1 more win and he has it won! He will run it in the pro class where it is legal.
Pappy
08-03-2003, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by BigThumper33
The honda 450 is coming in chicago at the atv dealershow in sept...

lol....ok im holding you to that:D
OCCRA288
08-03-2003, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by redrider808
look for bill to be riding a new production-based aluminum framed LRD/honda before the season is out.


The key words there are Production based

He could just be using the new motor with his aluminum frame.
cdalejef
08-03-2003, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by OCCRA288
The key words there are Production based

He could just be using the new motor with his aluminum frame. read my post
BigThumper33
08-03-2003, 04:21 AM
Pappy, I've been told down the grapevine that Wayne at PEP has been telling a few friends of mine that it is coming in sept... Now if it doesn't, I think I'll just have to take a trip over to Wayne's with bat in hand lol :devil:
400EXrider#91
08-03-2003, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by BigThumper33
Pappy, I've been told down the grapevine that Wayne at PEP has been telling a few friends of mine that it is coming in sept... Now if it doesn't, I think I'll just have to take a trip over to Wayne's with bat in hand lol :devil:


:uhoh:
Juggalo
08-03-2003, 05:33 AM
you think it will be unvailed at the dealer show in chicago?? i have been to that before, my friend owns a shop. i'm gonna see if he'll let me come with him again and see that.
kabd69667
08-03-2003, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
read my post
but the caption does say production-based aluminum framed LRD/ honda
cdalejef
08-03-2003, 05:46 AM
I think someone did a little editing on that post.
Ralph
08-03-2003, 05:50 AM
Supposidly Kawasaki is gonna release a 2-stroker 2!
Glow Plug
08-03-2003, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by Ralph
Supposidly Kawasaki is gonna release a 2-stroker 2!


yeah that have been doing that since 99
JessetheKid
08-03-2003, 06:02 AM
I think that they let that slip on purpose to see if anyone would catch it
BigThumper33
08-03-2003, 06:03 AM
I'm not making promises but Wayne has been giving out some info. We got 4-5 guys lined up to head out to chicago in october to pick them up. :p
redrider808
08-03-2003, 09:02 AM
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/a54c112b/bc/bill+honda.jpg?bc78WL_Awgtle3qF

just to show what was in the mag
TheRedRebel17
08-03-2003, 09:05 AM
I think ya are makign a big deal outta this when its a small detail:ermm:
TheRedRebel17
08-03-2003, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Ralph
Supposidly Kawasaki is gonna release a 2-stroker 2!
I have a STRONG feeling they are gonna use the 250 thumper and put it in a quad. It supposely puts out 42 HP:eek2:. Even the dirtbike mags, they left ALOT of room up over the 250 thumper bike...maybe a 450 comign soon...kawasaki knows they have to do something..:uhoh:

Thats all for now:devil:
bluebaron
08-03-2003, 09:13 AM
quote:
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Originally posted by BigThumper33
The honda 450 is coming in chicago at the atv dealershow in sept...
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wha wha whaaaaaat........:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
BigThumper33
08-03-2003, 09:56 AM
thats what Wayne is saying. Says it is definately coming with an aluminum frame, and the shocks are high quality, so aftermarket will not be needed, just need to send them into him to get the right setup... I hope so...
cdalejef
08-03-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by BigThumper33
the shocks are high quality, so aftermarket will not be needed, just need to send them into him to get the right setup... I hope so... LMAO....thats what they said about the Yamaha.
toby400ex
08-03-2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Bill has an Alum. framed LTZ that he will race once he has the points locked up. If I'm not mistaken, 1 more win and he has it won! He will run it in the pro class where it is legal. I think the slip up was the honda part, it should have said suzuki:rolleyes:
QuadJunkies
08-03-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by BigThumper33
I'm not making promises but Wayne has been giving out some info. We got 4-5 guys lined up to head out to chicago in october to pick them up. :p :eek: :eek: :eek: :blah: :macho :blah: :cool:
z400ACDC
08-03-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Bill has an Alum. framed LTZ that he will race once he has the points locked up. If I'm not mistaken, 1 more win and he has it won! He will run it in the pro class where it is legal.
Bill is not going to run the LRD framed Z because of some Z frame issues.
BigThumper33
08-03-2003, 02:28 PM
Don't shoot down the messanger...we'll see in a few months...
goin2shock
08-03-2003, 03:21 PM
I hope your right!
In a few years I'll have enough money to get one i hope!

here we go rerelease the 250R with new frame and new suspension! everyone will be happy!
z400ACDC
08-04-2003, 03:38 PM
Bill said today that he has a new LRD frame for the Z. It is ready to race. He also said that his YFZ450 engine is strong and is just wait on the suspension parts. Most likely will race one of the 4-strokes the rest of the year.
QuadJunkies
08-04-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by goin2shock
I hope your right!
In a few years I'll have enough money to get one i hope!

here we go rerelease the 250R with new frame and new suspension! everyone will be happy! This was a little tidbit I got in my mail today it read.......Its official.......Honda will be releasing info onthe trx450R info on Sept 10th at hrer annual avt convention.Details are pretty much non-exsistant.The press release read"American Honda will release the long awaited replacement of the legendary 250R.It also stated that details will also be provided about specail HRC closed circuit performance parts......If you are considering buying a new performance quad, you mat want to wait a little longer.This will be good.Details will follow as they are made available......
BigThumper33
08-05-2003, 08:28 AM
atvnews.com has a an article on it. AND ALL YOU GUYS SAID I WAS FULL OF IT!

Who's your daddy now? :blah: LOL
Bretmd94
08-05-2003, 08:30 AM
doesnt look like an aluminum frame to me?????:eek:
400exTN
08-05-2003, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Ralph
Supposidly Kawasaki is gonna release a 2-stroker 2!

I know Kawasaki is working on their 450 dirtbike now. After the bike is released they will work on the 450 quad. I would look for the quad in about two years.

The 2 stroke well, we'll just have to wait and see!
z400ACDC
08-05-2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Bretmd94
doesnt look like an aluminum frame to me?????:eek: It is just a mild steel frame like all the rest. Tim Farr and Shane Hitt did the R&D and said it is a lot the YFZ. The Honda will have a foward kick starter con version.
KASCHAK
08-05-2003, 09:41 AM
the link didnt work i wanna see.....
BigThumper33
08-05-2003, 10:42 AM
thats just a drawing, I want to see a picture of it before I believe thats what it looks like.

I highly doubt honda would put all that money into it, and just have those junk *** shocks on there...they look just like the stockers for an ex. There is no way they are going to release a quad without shocks to atleast match up against the yfz...so as of right now, I think that drawing is bogus!!!
Bretmd94
08-05-2003, 11:02 AM
better have more decent shocks for the price...

im going by the honda shop today to see if they have an estimated price on it. :rolleyes:
trueblue450
08-05-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by BigThumper33
so as of right now, I think that drawing is bogus!!!

Thank you...:bandit: :bandit:

http://www.arcticcat.com/atvs/lineups/2004/images/enlargements/A2004DVI2AUSR.jpg


:mad:http://********.com/images/trx450rdrawing03sm.jpg
BigThumper33
08-05-2003, 02:08 PM
that is a picture of the artic cat duh!
jamiesel
08-05-2003, 06:42 PM
let me add something here. A friend of mine at LRD told me they have sold Honda a few of there aluminum frames.
popo
08-05-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by jamiesel
let me add something here. A friend of mine at LRD told me they have sold Honda a few of there aluminum frames.

Maybe Honda will fix them from breaking.....
Fred55
08-06-2003, 04:48 AM
Originally posted by 300EX_Man
Thank you...:bandit: :bandit:

http://www.arcticcat.com/atvs/lineups/2004/images/enlargements/A2004DVI2AUSR.jpg


:mad:http://********.com/images/trx450rdrawing03sm.jpg


GIVE IT UP ALREADY!!!!!

Nobody beleives you about that damn DVX!
08-06-2003, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by z400ACDC
Bill said today that he has a new LRD frame for the Z. It is ready to race. He also said that his YFZ450 engine is strong and is just wait on the suspension parts. Most likely will race one of the 4-strokes the rest of the year.


Does Bill know that everything he tells you gets on the web???:confused:




And I agree with the Artic cat pics...give it up already... Jeeezz
BigThumper33
08-06-2003, 07:15 AM
Rico, nice avatar...you give that fax machine a *** beatin!!:blah:
z400ACDC
08-06-2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Rico
Does Bill know that everything he tells you gets on the web???:confused:




And I agree with the Artic cat pics...give it up already... Jeeezz
Rico, I have posted nothing on here that Bill, BJ or Jeremiah would care for you or anyone else to know. It is not "top secret" that Bill plans on racing a thumper this year. If you have not heard this news, you are behind. Worry about your own racing program and not Bill's.
jamiesel
08-06-2003, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by popo
Maybe Honda will fix them from breaking.....

Have you broke one? A newer one?

This interested me because it shows hondas intrest in aluminum frames. I have heard Honda has broken quite a few designs.
Bretmd94
08-06-2003, 10:37 AM
if honda made an aluminum fame like LRD's that would be cool. I always imagined one like the Cannondales.
BigThumper33
08-06-2003, 03:51 PM
I'd guess they are just looking at the LRD for ideas. Honda has been making aluminum frame bikes for years, they have plenty of experience making aluminum frames...I doubt they are taking notes from LRD.

LRD has been having problems with breakage at the peg area. My friend had to send his attitude 250R aluminum frame in to get a chromoly tube machined into the pro peg mount area. They said they would pay for shipping and the work if they fixed it before it broke...if it were to break then they would have charged him. Even though it didn't cost him any money, he still had to take the time to completely tear the bike down and put it back...he was down for a month...in the middle of the season :devil: