jeff and yokley [Archive] - ATV Riders Forum

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 07:27 AM

For those of you that are interested in the flat proof system that I used at The Wisp....
William Yokley came up tuesday and we gave them the torture test. We rode on a 5 mile track that consisted of about 3.5 miles of creekrock that was very sharp and the rest was fast fire roads!!!
William ran the system in all 4 tires and I didn't run it at all just for comparison sake. We both were running 5psi in the tires.

On the 2nd lap I had 1 rear flat.... changed it and went back out.
On the 4th lap, we decided to stop and look at Yokley's tires. Sure enough he had 1 rear flat and didn't even know it! Just for the fun of it we decided to let the air out of all his tires. We went out for another lap and I could tell right off the bat that William was going much faster than he had with air in his tires. About 3/4 of the way through the lap I had another rear flat.
We got back to the truck where William told us that he was able to click it up 1 gear and go way faster then he thought he could ever have gone in a place that was that rough because the tires/flatproof system were soaking up all the harsh rocks and roots! He said "I have never ridden anything that was that smooth in the rough stuff".

I believe this is gonna make a huge impact for XC and desert racers. Not only will you not have to stop to change flats, but mentally and physically you will be able go much faster through rocks and rough terrain just knowing that you will not get a flat and beat yourself to death.

I cannot talk about the system yet but as soon as the powers that be give me the word, I will post pics and more details about this neat new product.

UglyMotha™

08-01-2003, 07:34 AM

oooooooooooooooo

aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

:p

Ryan

08-01-2003, 07:51 AM

Sounds good. Lets here the bad news...... how much $ :confused2 :macho .

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 07:56 AM

I don't know yet.

03GNCC270

08-01-2003, 08:04 AM

HOW MUCH WEIGHT DOES IT ADD TO A TIRE.

08-01-2003, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by 03GNCC270
HOW MUCH WEIGHT DOES IT ADD TO A TIRE.

About 2 grams.....:eek2:

JabberJaw

08-01-2003, 08:09 AM

I already know your secret.....you filled them with concrete didn't you!

Doibugu2

08-01-2003, 08:09 AM

This seems like old news to me. I've already seen it in action.

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by 03GNCC270
HOW MUCH WEIGHT DOES IT ADD TO A TIRE. Very little!!! Less than 1/2lb.

300exOH

08-01-2003, 08:17 AM

Sounds almost too good. Keep us updated.:confused:

08-01-2003, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by 300exOH
Sounds almost too good. Keep us updated.:confused:

Jeff rode his dale with a 2 inch hole in the sidewall the entire trip at Hatfield...:eek2: This new tire thingy as we call it...really works. I"ve seen it work first hand...it's not a joke and really is gonna change XC racing across the board...:macho

Pappy

08-01-2003, 08:21 AM

:eek:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/p57c4ca4f20427193d0a542a0c25d4425/fb836292.jpg

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 08:23 AM

I can fix that wheel!!!:uhoh:

SGA

08-01-2003, 08:36 AM

I really like the tires Jeff, honest I do, dont be mad.
Make sure POPO gets one of the first sets, we dont need no excuses:blah:;)

jlhughes750

08-01-2003, 08:37 AM

sounds great, can't wait to see more of this!!!!

later, j

UglyMotha™

08-01-2003, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Rico
Jeff rode his dale with a 2 inch hole in the sidewall the entire trip at Hatfield...:eek2: This new tire thingy as we call it...really works. I"ve seen it work first hand...it's not a joke and really is gonna change XC racing across the board...:macho

not to mention he also showed a couple banshee boys from mcdougal county up with a flat tire goin up the hill at rolling thunder

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 08:43 AM

HEY.....don't f*** with people from mcdougal county!!!:grr:

UglyMotha™

08-01-2003, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
HEY.....don't f*** with people from mcdougal county!!!:grr:

LMAO

shoulda put a 2" gash in the sidewall of their tire and seen how far they could make it up the hill :devil:

08-01-2003, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
I can fix that wheel!!!:uhoh:

:mad: Those look like the rims and tires you asked to borrow from me...:cuss:

Doibugu2

08-01-2003, 08:51 AM

I should have got out of the stands and gabbed like four holes in your tires and then said to the guys from McDonalds, wanna race for money with holes in your tires?

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Rico
:mad: Those look like the rims and tires you asked to borrow from me...:cuss: :uhoh:

ranger400ex

08-01-2003, 09:02 AM

Isn't Mr Summer's responsible to pay for carnage testing? Well it's good to see that after a year of talk they are finally getting to the buy stage. From what I heard last year about them from Jeff and until now these have been tested better than almost any other product I have seen. If Jeffy and yeller yokley can't tame them...then my lard ***** will be happy!!:macho

PS Rico, don't feel to bad...I getting the ripoff cause Jeff sold me those wheels and tire's for $350 today.... looks like more than just a small ding Jeff :( lol

Ben

Chanman420q

08-01-2003, 12:34 PM

so wait u deflated ur tires and filled them with something else? or ur just running tires with no air in them the entire race:eek2:

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 12:39 PM

We ran them with air and without

cjpoole1

08-01-2003, 12:48 PM

I know the secret:eek:

Pappy

08-01-2003, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by cjpoole1
I know the secret:eek:

we have dispatched a death squad to eliminate you:eek: dont run.....we dont get flats either:devil: :blah:

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by cjpoole1
I know the secret:eek: It would be a shame if something bad were to happen to that nice pretty Jeep!:scary:

Woodsrider

08-01-2003, 12:55 PM

Looks like something we need out here for riding at Washugal ORV park they got some of the sharpest rocks I ever seen down there.

Derek

08-01-2003, 01:03 PM

I think i have a clue what it is but im not sure.

Rip_Tear

08-01-2003, 02:17 PM

Sounds real cool, I can't wait to find out all about this "product" ! Could you give us your opinion if you think the "product" is expensive?

I hope its not just webbing in the tires, because that would not be new.... my dads skidsteer tires have that....

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 02:21 PM

Nope...no webbing. They are gonna be a little costly because of the cost to manufacture. They will probally only appeal to racers that don't want to get flats.

cjpoole1

08-01-2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
It would be a shame if something bad were to happen to that nice pretty Jeep!:scary:
I never said i would tell:huh

cjpoole1

08-01-2003, 02:29 PM

I am needing a deal on a set of hipers though:devil:

Pappy

08-01-2003, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by cjpoole1
I never said i would tell:huh

lmfao...screw the death squad...JUST DONT TOUCH THE JEEP:devil:

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by cjpoole1
I am needing a deal on a set of hipers though:devil: ok sir

Pappy

08-01-2003, 03:09 PM

and the man himself all ready to do some testing

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/pc82decf06285eab55d2a8f121c5afc5f/fb82a6fd.jpg

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 03:10 PM

thanks Pappy but thats not me, its William!

SGA

08-01-2003, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
thanks Pappy but thats not me, its William!
LOL! Best one today!:D

UglyMotha™

08-01-2003, 03:40 PM

i know exactly what it is, i saw it in action with my own eyes and let me tell ya that foam is some amazing stuff:confused2

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 04:04 PM

I guess you weren't looking close enough Mr roost the camera guy!

UglyMotha™

08-01-2003, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
I guess you weren't looking close enough Mr roost the camera guy!

i thought it was hush hush

LMAO i crack up watching the video everytime you come up on me you were yelling at me, i had no clue you were back there I SWEAR until that corner you tried to pass, yah how'd that roost taste :devil:

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 04:09 PM

Thats ok.....no more mr nice guy from me!:devil:

Pappy

08-01-2003, 04:10 PM

lol..im a good lapper...he yelled my name and i got right over (taking the worst line imaginable:grr: ) and let him pass:D

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 04:15 PM

Only if they could all be like that.....sigh:(

user101

08-01-2003, 04:28 PM

is it kinda like the "wheel thingys" the dirtbikes use in the GNCC's

cdalejef

08-01-2003, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by user101
is it kinda like the "wheel thingys" the dirtbikes use in the GNCC's :confused:

rowlrag

08-01-2003, 04:53 PM

I'll bet it's the stuff some women have put in there boobies:ermm:

Pappy

08-01-2003, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by rowlrag
I'll bet it's the stuff some women have put in there boobies:ermm:

yeah jeff said you tried stuffing dolla bills in his quad the other day:devil:

rowlrag

08-01-2003, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Pappy
yeah jeff said you tried stuffing dolla bills in his quad the other day:devil:
And he's right, I've been stuffing $100 bills in this new one:(

Pappy

08-01-2003, 05:23 PM

thats what i heard..back on a R :macho

rowlrag

08-01-2003, 05:34 PM

yup
:D

toby400ex

08-01-2003, 08:30 PM

i cant wait to find out what it bees

JabberJaw

08-02-2003, 03:45 AM

Maybe its a bunch of used kangaroo condoms! And don't tell me kangaroo's don't wear condoms...I know from experience!

Tommy 17

08-02-2003, 06:02 AM

:eek: thats the worse rim i've ever seen bent... damn that is bad...

RUNMYTA

08-02-2003, 06:23 AM

I seen somewhere a couple years ago that 2 wheel bike riders used several baseball size silicone inflated balls in the tire instead of a inner tube. If the tire was punctured only one of the little balls would go flat and the rider never knew it:eek: SO is this the same secrect that Yokley is testing??:confused2

Rip_Tear

08-02-2003, 11:09 AM

I know now, webbed tubes, with one way vavles.... (is it okay for us to guess?)

popo

08-02-2003, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by JabberJaw
Maybe its a bunch of used kangaroo condoms! And don't tell me kangaroo's don't wear condoms...I know from experience!

Them must be sum small ballz

user101

08-02-2003, 03:28 PM

have any of u ever seen the wheel inserts that armored vehicles use... such as the presidential limo.

my guess is it is somthin like that. the inserts that the vehicles use comes in two peices that bolt together. am i right JEFF.

dont the dirtbikes in the GNCC's use a similar device.:confused:

toby400ex

08-02-2003, 08:09 PM

back when i read dirtbike mags they had the foam things you stuck inside ur tire instead air, im suspecting its like that. The armored cars use big plastic curved blocks.

cdalejef

08-03-2003, 01:10 AM

No, the are not moose tubes like the bike guys run. Those only last for a couple races, this will last indefenently!

08-03-2003, 01:13 AM

solid rubber tires :eek2:

08-03-2003, 01:17 AM

Are they Self-Sealing or Self-Supporting?? Or is it like the PAX system on cars where you have to buy a special rim with the tires and a polyurethane support ring is bonded onto the rim? :confused:

cdalejef

08-03-2003, 01:31 AM

None of those!
If you read my origional descreption, you will see that we ran air in the tires!

08-03-2003, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by rowlrag
And he's right, I've been stuffing $100 bills in this new one:(

I removed a part from it when i was at the shop friday...Can you guess what it was???????????:eek:

cdalejef

08-03-2003, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by Rico
I removed a part from it when i was at the shop friday...Can you guess what it was???????????:eek: :devil:

DH440

08-03-2003, 05:59 AM

Are they a Scott Summers design and he is using them now?

rowlrag

08-03-2003, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Rico
I removed a part from it when i was at the shop friday...Can you guess what it was???????????:eek:
Back off kraka:macho

popo

08-03-2003, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Rico
I removed a part from it when i was at the shop friday...Can you guess what it was???????????:eek:

Was it the picture of Peaches.... http://users.iglide.net/gbelbeck/boobies.gif

08-04-2003, 01:52 AM

i think it s some sort of a foam insert. alot of skid loaders and front end loaders run foam filled tires. if you took off the tire and filled it 3/4 full of foam let it dry, then mount it on a wheel put some air in it your ready to go. if the air came out no big deal. it would also soak up the bumps in the ruff stuff. thats my opinion.

cdalejef

08-04-2003, 02:05 AM

Nope

08-04-2003, 02:20 AM

Rabbit chit?????????

UglyMotha™

08-04-2003, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by Rico
Rabbit chit?????????

no! goat chit same consistency only more quanity ;)

XANDADA

08-04-2003, 02:54 AM

This may be a really stupid question but I assume most xc guys run 6ply tires. With this new system do you run 2ply to offset the added weight since you no longer have to worry about flats? I think that product rocks even for "nonracer" types like myself.

UglyMotha™

08-04-2003, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by XANDADA
This may be a really stupid question but I assume most xc guys run 6ply tires. With this new system do you run 2ply to offset the added weight since you no longer have to worry about flats? I think that product rocks even for "nonracer" types like myself.

i doubt it since jeff claims it weighs nothing

bradley300

08-04-2003, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by Pappy
we have dispatched a death squad to eliminate you:eek: dont run.....we dont get flats either:devil: :blah:

thats right, tanks dont have tires!:devil: :eek:

where were you guys ridin' jeff?

cdalejef

08-04-2003, 09:16 AM

We talked about running 4 ply but I don't think the weight savings is enough to worry about. The tires can still get side wall cuts, you just don't know it. After lots of races a 4 ply may be tore up so bad that it starts falling apart.

We rode at Fred's (WOOLIN) farm.

Meek

08-04-2003, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by ranger400ex
...then my lard ***** will be happy!!:macho

:scary: :scary: :scary: :scary: :scary: :scary:

TheRedRebel17

08-04-2003, 07:31 PM

You made it up that huge hill with a deflated tire:eek: :eek2:

I reckon its some sort of polyister lining behind the main tread:ermm: , because it looks to be supporting itself pretty good...

dhines

08-05-2003, 01:59 AM

I know it's been said before, but this is hands down one of the coolest pieces of ATV-related technology that I've ever seen. You can pretty much bank on all of the top racers riding with this system soon after it is made available.

08-05-2003, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by dhines
You can pretty much bank on all of the top racers riding with this system soon after it is made available.

Thanks for noticing my riding skills Bill but i'm not a top racer..:o

WOOLIN

08-05-2003, 02:51 AM

They are one of the coolest things I've ever seen. The design is amazing.:D

dhines

08-06-2003, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by Rico
Thanks for noticing my riding skills Bill but i'm not a top racer..:o

I know you didn't just refer to me as "Bill"!!!!
:mad: :mad: :scary: And you wonder why your DVD doesn't work right...

cdalejef

08-06-2003, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by dhines
I know you didn't just refer to me as "Bill"!!!!
:mad: :mad: :scary: And you wonder why your DVD doesn't work right... :eek:

08-06-2003, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by dhines
I know you didn't just refer to me as "Bill"!!!!
:mad: :mad: :scary: And you wonder why your DVD doesn't work right...

DOH

My bad D.....:o

Teufel

08-06-2003, 03:12 AM

I ran into a couple of guys last year that use the balls like the ones in the play area at McDonalds and Burgerking. They loved it.
:D

cdalejef

08-06-2003, 03:15 AM

:confused:

BUCK442

08-06-2003, 04:46 AM

Boy Jeff you stirred up a bees nest of bs talking about those thingies. You sure are a business savy person, leak, leak,leak,!;)

cdalejef

08-06-2003, 05:01 AM

I will only do that when it is something different that is gonna make a big impact!

Braff1

08-06-2003, 05:37 AM

Any projected release date Jeff?? Inquiring minds want to know!

BUCK442

08-06-2003, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
I will only do that when it is something different that is gonna make a big impact!

I did'nt hear you mention anything about the new Honda or as I call it the cannondale mutilator. I hope! My check book screamed when I went to my sponsor dealer yesterday!::eek:

cdalejef

08-06-2003, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Braff1
Any projected release date Jeff?? Inquiring minds want to know! Nothing official but its should be late summer early fall

cdalejef

08-06-2003, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by BUCK442
I did'nt hear you mention anything about the new Honda or as I call it the cannondale mutilator. I hope! My check book screamed when I went to my sponsor dealer yesterday!::eek: Like I said in my post above......."I will only do that when it is something different that is gonna make a big impact!

Rip_Tear

08-06-2003, 06:13 AM

How about a few more hints Jeff? Or a blurry pic! Common! I want to find out what this is!

BUCK442

08-06-2003, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Like I said in my post above......."I will only do that when it is something different that is gonna make a big impact!

LOL. Snippy, Snippy, are we worried! Cuz ya should be!:macho
Just picture it, me on the new HONDA and running your new tire thingies, how does that roost taste?:devil:

cdalejef

08-06-2003, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by BUCK442
LOL. Snippy, Snippy, are we worried! Cuz ya should be!:macho
Just picture it, me on the new HONDA and running your new tire thingies, how does that roost taste?:devil: No worries :D Unless your name is Cook or Cecco!:eek2:

BUCK442

08-06-2003, 06:45 AM

Im gonna get fired I'm laughing so loud. With all due respect Cecco is fast but Cook and You are my only worries. Sorry Rick don't hurt me!:huh

cdalejef

08-06-2003, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by BUCK442
Im gonna get fired I'm laughing so loud. With all due respect Cecco is fast but Cook and You are my only worries. Sorry Rick don't hurt me!:huh I'd hate to be in your shoes now!:eek2:

BUCK442

08-06-2003, 07:14 AM

It's all fun and games till someone gets the snot beat out of em. I am not to worried I let Stephanie do all my fighting for me, she is mean! If you need me I will be hiding in the trailer.:cool:

popo

08-06-2003, 09:29 AM

Looks like we have a new person for the pink dress!!!

SGA

08-06-2003, 09:42 AM

Whats going on over here? My email has been working overtime with replies to this thread. Is this where the party is?:blah:

BUCK442

08-07-2003, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by popo
Looks like we have a new person for the pink dress!!!

Easy now Popo. I thought the dress was for the slow riders!:p

465Stroker

08-07-2003, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by BUCK442
Easy now Popo. I thought the dress was for the slow riders!:p

Buck - What do you want us to call you - physically challanged? LOL J/K..

BUCK442

08-07-2003, 05:42 AM

Its more like self induced mentally challanged. :huh

465Stroker

08-07-2003, 05:46 AM

All I know is you are definately in the running for the pink skirt as of this thread! Looking forward to bringing ya back to reality in a few weeks!:scary:

cdalejef

08-07-2003, 06:00 AM

:devil: :devil: :devil:

BUCK442

08-07-2003, 06:03 AM

I was just trying to introduce some friendly ribbin, I am getting a little hysterical not racing. Looks like I will have to be in top form to save my dignity. I sure hope all that espn watching paid off. No more trash talk for me, I will let my riding speak for itself----- unless it sucks then I will blame it on something mechanical. lol.:D

465Stroker

08-07-2003, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by BUCK442
I was just trying to introduce some friendly ribbin, I am getting a little hysterical not racing. Looks like I will have to be in top form to save my dignity. I sure hope all that espn watching paid off. No more trash talk for me, I will let my riding speak for itself----- unless it sucks then I will blame it on something mechanical. lol.:D

No problem - It's all good.. I just hope Cook does not show up on a Cannondale - At least he gives us a chance to catch him on the lil 400EX...:eek: :eek:

BUCK442

08-07-2003, 06:13 AM

Yep, mine is up for sale. I can run with the big bores in the woods but when we hit the straits its Bye Bye Buck for sure. Maybee if I sell mine Foutch will let me use his suzi, which by the way is on sale also. Think maybee I will bring my lawn mower to the next one it has mor hp.:D

jlhughes750

08-07-2003, 06:16 AM

it looks like if we take ole' Bucks points total as of now and double it, he'd still be over 20 points from Jeff,Cook, and Cecco!!!!hahahaha.........

later, J

just some friendly ribbin' thats all!!!!!!:D

BUCK442

08-07-2003, 06:23 AM

Yea, Yea I had some mechanical troubles this year at Lorettas and OH and I hate to say it but I just wussed out at NC, if you looked at the races that I actually finished you get a better impression. Add that to the fact that I also did not go to two races I think my points are good. I just need some more throw outs. I know that I won't be able to catch up in points but I can reek some havoc on the guys who are in the battle. Lane, Styles, etc.

Pappy

08-07-2003, 06:24 AM

i atleast got my name in the stats:ermm:

BUCK442

08-07-2003, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by Pappy
i atleast got my name in the stats:ermm:

What class?

Pappy

08-07-2003, 06:34 AM

lol....to get my quad and me into the pits at wisp they made me sign up for the race:mad: i will race on before the season is over:devil: :macho :(

BUCK442

08-07-2003, 06:40 AM

LOL. Thats insane they made you sign up to race. I have a real problem with that set up at MD. Good Luck Papy hope to see that purdy quad of yours on the line, be ready to get it trashed by some rock or oak tree. It just looks too good to set on the sidelines!:eek2:

jlhughes750

08-07-2003, 06:47 AM

Hey, Buck442, i just checked out the points, your right, a few more top 5's and you may move up as far as 6th. the guys right ahead of u in points are all lined up, Jeff will have his hands full with Cook, Rick's doing well from just being consistant, there are guys out of the top 20 in points that have 1rst, second and third place finishes this year. weird !!!!!!

Pappy, what class did u sign up fer????? hey why not race the next one out at Ttown, run the junior class with DK, the Carman, and me!!!!!!

later, j

Pappy

08-07-2003, 06:47 AM

yeah it sucked but what ya gonna do:p

actually the 425 is all decked out for mx at the moment and my stocker is suited up to be all trashed :D

i didnt realize many people saw it at wisp:scary: but thx i like it:cool:

Pappy

08-07-2003, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by jlhughes750

Pappy, what class did u sign up fer????? hey why not race the next one out at Ttown, run the junior class with DK, the Carman, and me!!!!!!

later, j

i usually run the vet class....but im easy:D i will have to run morning classes so i can still pull my pit duties :macho

jlhughes750

08-07-2003, 07:14 AM

oh yeh!!!!pit duty's!!!!! don't remind me. i was supposed to be pitting for our entire team (in the #14 pit)with BillN. for the entire season, thats why i started runnin stock class. well i missed a few and we never really got it together as a team thing like we thought. I guess i bailed on everyone:ermm: It was all kinda based on one rider racing this one bike, then he didn't want to ride it cause of the shocks suckin, well the hole project stopped for a few months so i never went to help at the races.(cause the bike was not being raced) Now we have the shocks squared away sent the crappers away and got real ones, my sponsor changed everything on the frame that we doubted or questioned and i went last night to inspect it. Suddenly i'm glad our Pro rider bailed on us, now i get a race chassis for free to race the remainder of the year and next year as well. Anyone know of real fast GNCC Pro looking for a chassis to run an R. I hope not cause until someone speaks up, this babys mine!!!!!!!

later, J

monkeyboy

08-07-2003, 07:29 AM

whoo won da racce:confused:

diddd johnnny C reckk:(

joedirt

08-07-2003, 12:16 PM

Putin a R togethe. honda cumin out w/ new 4st. R is gona be out of pro class next yr. Who's gona ride ya quad a quad they don't know. ridin a different quad is like riden a different gurl ya might like it but ya might get hurt too i wouldn't chance it. btw everyone switchn to 4st. good luck in findn a rider this late in thee season.Word too ya ma