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StreetLegalEX
07-25-2003, 05:46 AM
I was wondering, what are the symptons for bad piston rings? Do they make noise? Do they make the quad hard to start? How can I tell they begin to go bad? Is it possible they only make noise without effecting power/startability?

Sorry for asking so much at the same time ;)

Castor-426ex
07-25-2003, 05:28 PM
oil smoke

oil loss

loss of power


chunks of metal coming out of your exhaust

speedy400
07-25-2003, 05:38 PM
smokey breather tube that comes off the crankcase....

StreetLegalEX
07-26-2003, 05:18 AM
Thanks for all replies. Well this pretty much assures me that the problem lies elsewhere.

Butters
07-26-2003, 08:11 PM
yeah it will smoke reak bad especially when you 1st start it up.

Castor-426ex
07-27-2003, 06:42 PM
actually....if it smokes on start up and then stops.....thats valve seals

07-30-2003, 03:46 PM
yeh its the valve seals if it smoke when u start her up because when they heat up they expand.

07-30-2003, 03:54 PM
So what is your quad doing that you thought the rings were bad?

07-30-2003, 04:48 PM
i think he was just curious about what would happen. but it seems like he has problems starting his quad. Try a 42 pilot jet.

WEEZIL
07-30-2003, 04:50 PM
when your rings start to go bad i am sure you will be able to hear some pistion slap

StreetLegalEX
08-02-2003, 09:37 PM
No it starts fine but sometimes it smokes on start (when I use the choke) but it makes a nasty sound when under load.

But I recently discovered the problem: Blown head gasket.

At this point i could choke the man who sold me this quad about 3 or 4 months ago, and rebuilt the whole thing.
Well my valvehead-gasket was gone when I had it for about 1 week, my axle bearings went out about a month ago and now my head gasket has gone to hell.

This is not the only thing, I also found my quad to be badly jetted for my Rino silencer. I put the stock silencer on and noticed significant gains througout the powerband and especially a much higher topspeed.......

I hope that I won't run into any more trouble because I really like my 400ex but a quad that has one problem after another is nothing for me......
I always hear Honda is reliable as hell so I am pretty convinced that once it has been fixed good I will get much more fun-hours out of my quad.

Castor-426ex
08-11-2003, 05:22 PM
it might by chance be fuel burning off....but more than likely you are either too rich or the rings are bad..or installed incorrectly....what have you found out so far?