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carlj75
07-17-2003, 12:48 PM
I only ride at the dunes and was wondering if the 440 bore was the best compared to the other sizes. I'm also putting in a new cam and getting some head work done.

Natertot426ex
07-18-2003, 05:10 AM
Go with a 416 or a 426. 440's have a lot of power but the other 2 do really good. I'd say do the 416 then when that wears out do the 426. I have the 426 in mine and it is very impressive.

carlj75
07-18-2003, 01:54 PM
Yeah, I'm leaning towards the 426 now after reading my other post. Plus it's a little bit cheaper anyway since I won't have to have the motor re-sleeved. Did you get hard faced rockers, new valve springs, or valve guides when you put in your cam? The guy that's going to do my bore job keeps telling me that I should get hardfaced rockers even with a hotcam???

airheadedduner
07-20-2003, 07:43 AM
If you want banshee killing power go for the 440. The other setups are an improvement too. I just got to try my 440 for the first time in the sand last saturday. Took it to comp hill at florence and killed a ton of shees. Getting it to stand up in 5th with a +4 swingarm looks badass too:cool:

CHAUNCY
07-20-2003, 09:16 AM
Hey airheadedduner- Were the shee's you were beating stock ?

07-20-2003, 05:03 PM
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

twisted threads
07-20-2003, 08:15 PM
I have also beat many piped shee's with my EX. I would go with the full out 440 kit for the dune's. Carlj75 if you would like to give mi EX a test ride some day we could meet some were so you can ride the 440.:cool:

carlj75
07-21-2003, 07:53 AM
Twisted: thanks for the offer. I rode some guys 440 at Florence a couple of weeks ago at comp hill. All he had done was the 440 kit and some head work......no cam or carb!! I usually can't beat my buddies piped craptor on mine, but on that 440 I was beating him by a couple quad lengths. It felt really strong and was easilly pulling 4th gear up the hill. (Mine barley pulls 3rd right now) I would like to do the full out 440, but I think I will just do the JE 11:1 426 and a stage 2 Hotcam.

JabberJaw
07-21-2003, 08:34 AM
Go with the 450!!!!!! I love mine...

airheadedduner
07-22-2003, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by CHAUNCY
Hey airheadedduner- Were the shee's you were beating stock ?
Mostly:ermm:

CHAUNCY
07-22-2003, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by airheadedduner
Mostly:ermm:

Ohhhh, I was riding a piped banshee a while ago then I hopped on my 400 and it seemed like a slug:o Its all good though:)

own2424
07-22-2003, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by CHAUNCY
Ohhhh, I was riding a piped banshee a while ago then I hopped on my 400 and it seemed like a slug:o Its all good though:) Everything compared to a Banshee is a SLUG!

airheadedduner
07-25-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by CHAUNCY
Ohhhh, I was riding a piped banshee a while ago then I hopped on my 400 and it seemed like a slug:o Its all good though:)
Dude, I hope you know that I was jokeing. The only shee that I knew exactly what had on it was my grandpa's shee whith my brother on it. It has power pistons, TR6's, v-force cages, clamp on K&N's, degree key, and spacers with a 4 1/2 inch over swingarm. I could beat that bike with my brother on it by over a bike length up comp hill. My next ride will be 30th-1st. I will have pics of my thumper beating ring dings after that ride;) I ran a lot of bikes on my first trip, most of them modded shees and only lost twice, and no they were not stock:rolleyes: The shee is still the bike to beat on the hill though:scary:

ledofthezep
07-28-2003, 05:56 AM
If you want banshee killing power go for the 440.
Haha!:D

aroracer72
07-28-2003, 03:01 PM
lmao off, while you guys are boring and buying carbs for your 400ex's, ill be smoking you on a stock dale with a pipe, 400ex's just arnt power machines, the put out 26 hp stock, thats like moped power, and a stock dale outs out 41!!!...with a pipe the dale puts out about 49, with your guyses 440's wont even be at 50 i bet with those kits, and no wayy your 440 was beating piped shees, unless the riders sucked beyond belief!!!

Chef
07-28-2003, 03:08 PM
LMAO...I wish Dales were fast...:ermm:

ledofthezep
07-29-2003, 05:33 AM
no wayy your 440 was beating piped shees, unless the riders sucked beyond belief!!!

True.:macho

aroracer72
07-29-2003, 05:52 AM
lol, you are kidding right!!!!!!...dales are fast!!!!.......and if you put on a pipe, youll have 50hp!!!!!.....jeesh, i hope you were kidding!!!:confused: :huh

Chef
07-29-2003, 06:49 AM
Fast compared to what? The other stock and piped bikes, yes. ;)

aroracer72
07-29-2003, 08:03 AM
yeah, it would even beat a 44ex with a pipe and cams and stuff, were not talking about 50,000 banshees or anything!!!!

carlj75
07-29-2003, 08:44 AM
Thats if the piece of sh*t cannondale stays running....or doesn't break.

aroracer72
07-29-2003, 09:08 AM
LOL, IF YOU GET THE UPDATES DONE TO IT, IT WILL LAST AS LONG AS ANY OTHER FOUR STROKE. bUT WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT!!!....YOUR 440EX'S FALL APART ALL THE TIME, HAHAHAHAHA, CAUSE THAT POOR WIMPY MOTOR CANT TAKE THE POWER A 440 HAS, SO ALL THOSE 440 KITS KILL YOUR QUADS RELIABILITY!!

GlamisEXRider
07-29-2003, 09:39 AM
C-dales might be fast now but that company went belly up, where you going to get parts for it?

Go with the 440 for the sand. I race shees and raptors all day long and win. I just put a fcr 39mm carb on my 440ex and my buddy cant touch me anymore on his piped raptor. We raced last friday at glamis and he had paddles on and i had the stock tires and i still won every race.

aroracer72
07-29-2003, 09:43 AM
there are many companies producing our needed parts like cranks, pistons, and everything else foir that matter!!!!

carlj75
07-29-2003, 10:06 AM
there are many companies producing our needed parts like cranks, pistons, and everything else foir that matter!!!!

How about computers, frames, and fuel pumps??

Chef
07-29-2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by aroracer72
LOL, IF YOU GET THE UPDATES DONE TO IT, IT WILL LAST AS LONG AS ANY OTHER FOUR STROKE. bUT WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT!!!....YOUR 440EX'S FALL APART ALL THE TIME, HAHAHAHAHA, CAUSE THAT POOR WIMPY MOTOR CANT TAKE THE POWER A 440 HAS, SO ALL THOSE 440 KITS KILL YOUR QUADS RELIABILITY!!

heh....I have never had a failure of any type in my motor. And I can guarantee you it would drag your dale upside down faster than it would go on its own power...:ermm:

airheadedduner
08-03-2003, 11:28 AM
Yeah, the dale is the bike to beat hillshooting:ermm: Guess thats why I never see them at comp hill racing, too good to even show up:rolleyes:

Oh damn, my 440 is unrealiable because I just fried the clutch, I should get ride of it and buy a dale. This guy sounds like he knows what he is talking about we should listen to him. Everyone!! Sell your current ride and buy a c-dale!!!:blah: :huh

aroracer72
08-03-2003, 12:01 PM
hahahahahaha very funny, itsd just that, why spend all this money to make your 400ex's "FAST" when you could buy a dale???...and as for the hill shooting, you dont see them, cause no body is buying them, cause there worried about parts, but i have a list of were to get all parts, and people are passing up these cool quads

hondafox440
08-03-2003, 01:21 PM
hahahahahaha very funny, itsd just that, why spend all this money to make your 400ex's "FAST" when you could buy a dale???...

Maybe because they went out of business!

You're a retard, kid. You must feel like a real bigshot coming onto a Honda site bashing Hondas. :rolleyes:

Have fun starting your Dale, BTW.

aroracer72
08-03-2003, 01:45 PM
lol, i know the secret to starting the dale, and im not a retard, BUT YOU ARE an ******* in case you didnt know, and im nort bashing hondas, matter a fACT IF HONDA EVER MAKES THERE NEW QUAD, ILL SELL MY DALE AND BUY IT, but why try to make a slow bike fast, when you could just buy one fast, and make it handle good, or have a better starting ground for making an even faster quad.:cuss:

aroracer72
08-03-2003, 01:48 PM
BTW, in case you dont bilieve i do know how to start my dale, ill tell you......you have to push the start button for one second, this pressurizes the fuel pump and starter, next you hold the starter button for no more than 3 seconds, if it doesnt start, than repeat this process...and ohh yeah, you must have the clutch pulled in while you do all this, see, im not a reetard, jeesh, are all people jerks???:confused: :grr:

nakomis0
08-03-2003, 06:35 PM
Hey Aroracer you live right near me, I'll race u with my 440. :)

It wont be ready for 2 more weeks, ...getting a small upgrade, but after that its on.

aroracer72
08-03-2003, 06:41 PM
u ride at the mounds by chance????...cause i do
and my AIM messenger name is cannondale72...and i dont really want to get together to hostily race, but if you wanna ride sometime..and drag:devil: we could, just give me a shout on AIM cannondale72 or post a reply...im also going to silver lake in 2 weeks from this friday, in case you wanted to know or could go, cause i have no atv people to ride with, just a bunch if pussie dirtbikers!!!:macho

nakomis0
08-03-2003, 07:05 PM
We go to the mounds but rarely, . Theres a gravel pit out here thats a blast

Maybe after this bikes back together we'll get together and ride... not hostily..lol.. wasnt meant to come off that way.:blah:

My next Silver lake trip is Labor Day, not much riding going on before then besides the local pit. or my buddys property in Highland.

aroracer72
08-03-2003, 07:16 PM
IM ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW RIDING PALS CAUSE IM SITTING in my freakin house going stir crazy!!!...ohh yeah, im 15, i dont know if you want to ride with a 15 yr old, but i thought id ought to let you know lol, again my AIM screename is cannondale72 ..so drop a line and well talk about riding some time, cause im letting my dale just sit out in the shed rotting and i wanna ride it, but i have no were to drive, well im off to bed, so laterz.:tired:

airheadedduner
08-05-2003, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by aroracer72
ohh yeah, im 15
Big suprise there:ermm:

Before you go calling us jerks again look at the posts. You came in here with your biased opinion. Your not gonna change my opinion or my experiences. It is obvious that you know it all and are right so I am not gonna be able to change your opinion. You came in here flaming, your brought it on yourself. With your jackass attitude I don't see how people like you can make it as adults. I sugest you mature fast or deal with this everywhere you go.