Not another :shakes head: [Archive]

TeamC&GRacer

07-16-2003, 06:01 AM

dude thats nothing, we were playing quad tag yesterday and my little brother on a 300ex ran head on with a yamaha breeze, they were going to fast, but the 300's frame bent and was tweaked bad, need a new frame, the breeze didnt get a scratch... its f'd up...

newjacksm

07-16-2003, 07:25 PM

how the **** do you play quad tag:huh

i rather get naked and walk around the mall

EDIT : what i mean is that................. I wwould get naked in the mall and walk around.. all thoughs fine ladies want a peace of the gregulater :eek2:

ZRider400

07-17-2003, 09:29 AM

Tin Foil Alloy kicks ***:cool:

Castor-426ex

07-17-2003, 05:47 PM

i bet that tightens the turning radius huh?

Z400central

07-17-2003, 06:14 PM

its call physics guys...hit any thing in the right spot and it will break...

rider250ex

07-17-2003, 06:38 PM

dont get fancy with this physics $hit...its called weak...

newjacksm

07-17-2003, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by rider250ex
dont get fancy with this physics $hit...its called weak... '

LOL!!!

Pvt. Maggot

07-17-2003, 09:56 PM

and if you didn't notice all the frames bent the same way...hmm...

RiPPiNiTuP7

07-18-2003, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by Z400central
its call physics guys...hit any thing in the right spot and it will break...

LOL, sorry that isn't going to work for this one :blah:

MOFO

07-18-2003, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by Z400central
its call physics guys...hit any thing in the right spot and it will break...

LMAO, its called a WEAK SPOT in the frame....or as others might call it... a manufacturing defect or bad engineering.

Evan400ex

07-18-2003, 04:26 AM

Its called DON"T BUY SUZUKI!!!!!!!

Castor-426ex

07-18-2003, 05:04 AM

so they ran out of steel and used Jello....is that bad? :D

Pvt. Maggot

07-18-2003, 04:17 PM

mmmmmmm...jello:D

mxrdr

07-19-2003, 05:33 AM

lol.:blah: leson 101: dont buy a suzuki:blah:

Dune Surfer

07-19-2003, 06:10 AM

look at the bright side, it turns right great!!

AtvMxRider

07-19-2003, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by Evan400ex
Its called DON"T BUY SUZUKI!!!!!!!

Glow Plug

07-19-2003, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Castor-426ex
so they ran out of steel and used Jello....is that bad? :D

the new and impoved eatable frame huh?

phatswinn

07-19-2003, 05:07 PM

if circle tracks ran clockwise they would be on top of the racing scene

Castor-426ex

07-19-2003, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by Glow Plug
the new and impoved eatable frame huh?

i always liked lemon and lime

4TraxRider

07-20-2003, 04:11 AM

I'm not going to flame any machine or anybody, but I see it this way. Every machine has problems. The Z's frame is week, i got one last saturday, and I already cracked the frame above the shock mounts. With the amount of extra money you have to spend to get the EX's engine up to speed, it will break about even to get a better frame for the Z, or gusset it. EVery machine has week points, raptor=tranny, Z=frame, EX= engine,DS= steering, everything has its week points. I'll never get rid of my EX, but I like the Z a lot. Just my .02.

z400ACDC

07-20-2003, 05:45 AM

I had had my Z for over a year now with no problems. I will agree that the Z frame is weak as a wet noodle:grr: What I can't understand is why people are not gusseting the frames on them when they know it is a problem? I know it is a pain to tear them down but, what else can you do? A frame job goes for about $250 around here. JUST DO IT!

07-20-2003, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by 4TraxRider
I'm not going to flame any machine or anybody, but I see it this way. Every machine has problems. The Z's frame is week, i got one last saturday, and I already cracked the frame above the shock mounts. With the amount of extra money you have to spend to get the EX's engine up to speed, it will break about even to get a better frame for the Z, or gusset it. EVery machine has week points, raptor=tranny, Z=frame, EX= engine,DS= steering, everything has its week points. I'll never get rid of my EX, but I like the Z a lot. Just my .02. my 400ex had plenty of power when it was stock..and im sure a lot of other people will agree with me...the 400ex is a bullet proof quad in more ways than one...and if you spend 2k on a frame..you can get a 400ex to ahve more power for less than 1k...so your theory is wrong

4TraxRider

07-20-2003, 08:42 AM

I meant gusseting, not new frame sorry. The main thing I'm getting at with the frame breakage thing is, if everybody who buys a Z knows that the frame is weak, gusset it. Don't go and buy a slip-on to get a few more ponies, then complain about frame breaking, for the same amount of money, you can gusset it. If you ride hard enough to tweak the frame, you should know enough to get it fixed before having to spend money on new frames and parts.

07-20-2003, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by 4TraxRider
I meant gusseting, not new frame sorry. The main thing I'm getting at with the frame breakage thing is, if everybody who buys a Z knows that the frame is weak, gusset it. Don't go and buy a slip-on to get a few more ponies, then complain about frame breaking, for the same amount of money, you can gusset it. If you ride hard enough to tweak the frame, you should know enough to get it fixed before having to spend money on new frames and parts. this frame was gusseted:ermm: http://www.angelfire.com/anime4/my400ex/bent_frame.jpg

kentuckycat

07-21-2003, 11:40 PM

Has anyone even considered NOT RUNNING INTO THINGS?!?! Whether it be another quad, tree, or whatever... I understand that some frames have bent from jumping, but these pictures are of the Z's being run into or ran into something. I bet if we keep our Z's off of other quads and such, this frame bending problem will go away on its own.

Crazy4bluEx

07-21-2003, 11:52 PM

Yes.... i expect my 400ex 2 hit a tree 3rd gear pinned, and there wont be a scratch..... why? because its a HONDA!!!!! lol, j.k.
this is quite an amusing thread, as previously stated, almost anything will break when you run it head on into a solid object that weighs in the same ball park, or has the resistance of a brick wall ..... im stumped :confused: :confused: :rolleyes:

4TraxRider

07-22-2003, 11:03 AM

I just bent my EX frame in a crash last weekend, and I cracked the shock mounts on my Z two days after I got it, before I even had a chance to gusset it. The Z should be back in order tonight or tomarrow though, I don't know about the Ex though.:(

Rip_Tear

07-22-2003, 01:32 PM

Its surprizing what "any" quad will take if you think about, like I know people who have pretty much run straight into something and dead stopped with no damage. Some things are bad engineering and some are just flukes but the Z thing seems werid that its always the right side...

CEET400ex

07-22-2003, 02:26 PM

haha what a piece of $hit...honda all da way

Nausty

10-30-2003, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by nacsracer27
my 400ex had plenty of power when it was stock..and im sure a lot of other people will agree with me...the 400ex is a bullet proof quad in more ways than one...and if you spend 2k on a frame..you can get a 400ex to ahve more power for less than 1k...so your theory is wrong

I got a stock motor besides exhaust and filter in my machine if that means anything...

i've put my frame through SO MUCH its not even funny, I got some stress marks above the front shock mounts and peg mounts but i'm not complaining. I've had it for about 2 years and have hit so many huge jumps and put it through so much and shes still ticking.

ZSK

10-31-2003, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by Pvt. Maggot
and if you didn't notice all the frames bent the same way...hmm...

Coincidence?

lil400exman

11-03-2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by cleanshave300ex
Coincidence?
nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:blah:

Chef

11-03-2003, 09:42 PM

LMAO. You think those frames are bad. Atleast they are only bent in one spot. I'm just dyin to get the plastic off my Banshee...its been straighted like 4 times now. Once the rear plastic was pointing at the ground it was so bad.:o

44oEX

11-04-2003, 12:33 PM

Just for some good suzuki bashing

My friend has 22 gussets in his frame and still broke the frame at 18 different places. The second day he had it he bent the axle and he also bent like 8 tie rods. He went to a little race and he pulled out the bottum mount of his sub frame ( there is no stress on the sub frame )

This guy is not that crazy just regular jumps ( no 100 footers ) and some gravel pit ridding. I do avery thing he does with me EX and did not break anything.

The other day he took it apart and the left top pipe just fell off.
That was after some trail riding

SORRY to say it but the Z frame really sucks

Get a HONDA and hop up the motor and it's alot better then the Z.

z400ACDC

11-05-2003, 06:10 AM

Brandon Ballance has pounded his Z all year with no frame problems. The gussets and pc is about $250 around here. Cheap mod!

44oEX

11-05-2003, 07:49 AM

yeah but he probably changed frames after every race or every other race.

markeg192

11-05-2003, 11:55 AM

Can't we all get along? It doesn't matter what you ride. (as long a it's a Honda)

z400ACDC

11-05-2003, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by 44oEX
yeah but he probably changed frames after every race or every other race.
One Z, one frame, all year!:)
I am not brand loyal; I have ridden several brands and all of them had flaws.

44oEX

11-06-2003, 05:51 AM

His frame is gusseted and he has one of best suspention you can buy ( that help alot) because it is not has hard on the frame. The shocks just take the pounding