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Pro400EXC
01-16-2002, 03:22 PM
Ok, since ya'll like cars on here,lets talk about cars.

I wanna know about what you drag raced,and what your car is.

Here's my car that I wanna get!

400exRacerX
01-16-2002, 03:42 PM
Supra's aren't really big in the drag racing department and that car definatley is drag material. I want a 1967 chevy 2 Nova with a 350 small block.

Tommy 17
01-16-2002, 03:48 PM
i like my dads 99 corvette and my uncles z-o6 but my fav car is the supra off fast and furious....

ChadEXer
01-16-2002, 03:58 PM
Yeah that Supra off The Fast and The Furious is sweet. That car really belongs to the Director of Import Racing bla bla Association(Whatever that is called) He was the consultant on the show to the director to help them out about the car situation and he let them use his car. That car has 600 ponies under the hood with NOS. Could you imagine!!!! That car has won numerous car shows and been in numerous magazines. I read all this on the Fast & Furious website. I liked the Green Eclipse too. I just sold my Eclipse. It looked very sweet like that except it was slow!! I had all the money in the paint,wheels,interior,and sound system. After that movie it made me wish I still had that car!!

Evan
01-16-2002, 04:05 PM
Not a car but I sure would like to have one of these. I could haul ***** and haul my quad in style. Plus its just about as fast a vette.
Ford Lightning

The Ultimate Quad Hauler

Mitch400EX
01-16-2002, 04:07 PM
drop that body kit and graphics and then go for it! I'm not an import fan at all but Supras and RX-7's are nice cars. If I was to buy a really fast car and money wasn't an issue I would get a Hennessy Viper 800. 800 HP, 0-60 in 2.4 seconds, 9 second quarter mile, all the while being street legal! Behind that would be a Mustang cobra R or the new GT40.

I'm not a car guy though, my dream daily driver vehicle would be an 98-02 F-150 4x4 X-cab with the supercharged 5.4 lightning engine swapped into it and a 5 speed tranny, and 4.56:1 ring gears. Air shocks out back, 33 inch mud terrain or Baja T/A tires all around, blistein remote rezzy dampers all around, Bash bar up front, Fiberglass bulge fenders, ARB airlocker out back etc etc.
would be good for hauling *** off road as well as on it :D

Juggalo
01-16-2002, 04:17 PM
*ahem* heres my dads pride and joy. hopefully she'll be mine someday. i wish i could remember the line from the fast and the furious where dominic is talkin about his dads old car but i can't so oh well. shes a 1970 shelby GT500

JhallettEX
01-16-2002, 04:24 PM
600 HP of Detroit Muscle!!!

01-16-2002, 05:57 PM
Imports suck.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jan/20021163038228347025850.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jan/20021165052474643289281.jpg

As you may be able to tell, I'm a Mopar guy.

The Demon is a 340 4-speed car. It has gone a best of 13.97 at 101. Thats where my screen name comes from.

The Super bee is a 383 auto car. i just bought it last week.

01-16-2002, 06:30 PM
I think you have seen my ride by now. It`s a nice street car nothing special. But i just picked up a 88 GT back halved, full tin work and cage. Car went 8.90`s at full race weight with a supercharged 331. So i am stoked, i will post pics of the 88 when i get them, however here is my daily driver.

96 GT head-swap car with some "bolt-ons":

01-16-2002, 06:56 PM
My truck as of right now is an 88 GMC 2500 long bed, standard cab. Currently has a plane jane 350, but within the next month will have a nicely built 327 sporting 390 horses at the hind legs. Future plans for the truck include a '98 front end, clear turn signal lenses, 3" body lift, 33" Yokohama Geolander AT 2's, East coast customs 3" cowl induction hood, midnight metallic blue paint, and Mickey Thompson Classic 2's, 15x10. Probably seeing the exhaust out will be a flowmaster system...no big whoop there. Man, i love having a job :) .

Matt Fisher
01-16-2002, 07:11 PM
Currently in state of disassembly:
89 Mustang. Baer Claw brakes, Tremec tranny, heads/cam/intake/blower, etc, etc, etc.

Will be upgrading in the future to full Griggs suspension, all-aluminum 440ci small block, possibly swap out Tremec for a 5 sp Jerico.

Open track road racing terror.

Chef
01-16-2002, 07:23 PM
I got one!

'67 nova, Periwinkle blue, 200 shot of NOS, 360 Small black with Aluminum Vortec heads, (i think that they are 23 degree..?) Hydraulic Roller Cam, carb off of Rusty Wallaces #2 Winston Cup car, 18" wide tires in the rear. License Plate:TIRFRYR

about 600 HP + NOS= 800 on the bottle :D

MOFO
01-16-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by HOTT440EX
I got one!

'67 nova, Periwinkle blue, 200 shot of NOS, 360 Small black with Aluminum Vortec heads, (i think that they are 23 degree..?) Hydraulic Roller Cam, carb off of Rusty Wallaces #2 Winston Cup car, 18" wide tires in the rear. License Plate:TIRFRYR

about 600 HP + NOS= 800 on the bottle :D




Ok, I gotta ask. What kind of Winston Cup connections do you have??? :confused: Can you get some....ahem..."EXRiders" pit passes?? :D Nice car BTW!!



Eric

01-16-2002, 07:32 PM
Yeah really. What kinda carb? dominator? 1050? i got 2 BG 1050 dominators set up for alcy in my garage, i just need a motor to put them on.

400exRacerX
01-16-2002, 07:37 PM
Oh man is that a nice Nova!

86GN
01-16-2002, 08:11 PM
1986 Buick Grand National All throttle no bottle! Wish I had a pic to post. I have had it for 4 years.

Guy400
01-16-2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider
But i just picked up a 88 GT back halved, full tin work and cage. Car went 8.90`s at full race weight with a supercharged 331. So i am stoked, i will post pics of the 88 when i get them I'm not calling you a liar but can you elaborate a little more on your car? When you say it's been back halved I'm assuming you're still running a steel bodied car and not a full tube chassis vehicle with sheetmetal skin? Even if you skimp on some weight here and there you're still adding some weight because of the cage. I just guessed a steel bodied Mustang with the little you described to me weighing roughly 2800 lbs. (a stocker weighs in at 3300lbs.). To run an 8.90 with a 2800 lb. car you're going to have to be putting about somewhere in the neighborhood of 1000hp at the crank. Not impossible but that's squeezing a lot of juice out of a small block, even with supercharger.

01-16-2002, 08:28 PM
right you are sir, The car is backhalved, ford 9 inch ( comp engineering aluminum housing) with a wild rides 4 link. The car has a fiberglass hatch, doors, hood and obviously front facia. It has lexan windows. It went the time with a Procharger dc-1 intercooled and a timmys built small block. Muscle it made 678 hp 711 pd ft touque the dyno can only hadle around 700hp so it never made a charger pull. I couldn`t believe it and if i wasn`t there i would say BS myself. Full tin work jaz racing bucket, powerglide with a JW case built by ADP. The car weighed in at 2780 pounds with my buddy. He weighs 145 pounds soaking wet. The car has a full cro moly cage and is certified till 2003. I picked up the roller, he is working with teh motor in a 98 LSC? i am not quite sure tho.

01-16-2002, 10:11 PM
This Car has a Edelbrock Fully installed motor,Its a custom V8,It has edelbrock headers, and and stage two turbo kit with a ram air hood,Dropped body,edelbrock susp. a performer efi nitrous system,a edelbrock throttel body,A edelbrock v8 roller cam,A edelbrock built performer rpm head,Techtip valves,and other small stuff but its built

01-16-2002, 10:15 PM
This is my dads I am not sure what he has on it I know there is alot of work in it,,,,,Its got like 650 hp,,,,when in stock form its like 250 to 375,,,,his is a 1986,,,its faster than my car,,,

01-16-2002, 10:22 PM
Actually the quothe in the fast and the furious was 900hp of detroit muscle. And i ate a v6 mustang today in my 94 f-150. it has a 4.9l l-6 woth a 5 speed. i can't belive i beat him. My truck puts out 145 hp and 290 footpounds of torque.It's still slow

crday98
01-16-2002, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by topgun400ex
This Car has a Edelbrock Fully installed motor,Its a custom V8,It has edelbrock headers, and and stage two turbo kit with a ram air hood,Dropped body,edelbrock susp. a performer efi nitrous system,a edelbrock throttel body,A edelbrock v8 roller cam,A edelbrock built performer rpm head,Techtip valves,and other small stuff but its built
is that your car???i likes:) maybe i am just a little bias though:D

beerock
01-16-2002, 10:58 PM
this is a pic of my old 1991 300zx twin turbo, I had this car up to 165 with my friend in it.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p52058cc7c68cad78d83a1f853f0bfff9/fdfe1fd5.jpgthis is my boat it has a worked 351w in it with edelbrock perfomer rpm intake, edelbrock 750cfm carb etc
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/pc2e99ed8708331a8a2c4d7d8b703312a/fdfe1fb9.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p8f4541b77a69a9e060aba400fccc2598/fdfe1f8d.jpg

Guy400
01-17-2002, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by topgun400ex
This Car has a Edelbrock Fully installed motor,Its a custom V8,It has edelbrock headers, and and stage two turbo kit with a ram air hood,Dropped body,edelbrock susp. a performer efi nitrous system,a edelbrock throttel body,A edelbrock v8 roller cam,A edelbrock built performer rpm head,Techtip valves,and other small stuff but its built Hey, this thing sounds sweet! Can you get a pic of the motor in that thing?

ChadEXer
01-17-2002, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by LRD TRX250R
Actually the quothe in the fast and the furious was 900hp of detroit muscle. And i ate a v6 mustang today in my 94 f-150. it has a 4.9l l-6 woth a 5 speed. i can't belive i beat him. My truck puts out 145 hp and 290 footpounds of torque.It's still slow
I ate a V6 Mustang in my 01 Dodge 1500 with 6in suspension lift and 3in body lift with 36in Super Swampers on it!! But I have JBA Headers, Jet Chip, Airaid intake, Airaid throttle body spacer, Dual Flows and a MSD Ignition. I would post a pic but I dont have a scanner or Dig camara that works!!

Scott
01-17-2002, 08:40 AM
Hey Beerock, to **** with the boat, post some more pic os the chick IN the boat!! ha ha


My toys are:

2000 Silverado 5.3L Z71 Ext. Cab for pulling the trailer. 285 hp at the rear wheels. Enough to get the job done.

1977 Dodge D-150 2wd short bed step side. 440 with a 750cfm Carter AVS 4bbl carb, 727 Torqueflight with redline racing clutches, little higher stall than factory, and a puny 10 bolt rear end with 3.23's in it now. Had 3.90's and swapped them out.

1969 Vette. 427CI, 390hp, 4spd. Factory original except shocks, stainless steel brake lines, Hurst shifter, Holley Spreadbore 4bbl. Have original Rochester shifter and carb. This one still belongs to my Dad, but I'm waiting....

Chef
01-17-2002, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by VWVR6





Ok, I gotta ask. What kind of Winston Cup connections do you have??? :confused: Can you get some....ahem..."EXRiders" pit passes?? :D Nice car BTW!!



Eric

Do you ever watch the Busch series? (Busch Grand National)

If you do you will probably know who Greg Biffle is, the #60 Grainger car? Well we have known him for probably 10 years, which is way back before he was into the big leagues. By the way, He has a 1999 banshee and he just got a 410 kit(long rod?) on alky. +8 swingarm, Ohlins Shocks, black frame with black fullbore plastic, that bike is sharp! and his Brothers 450EX, It has the exact same motor as my bike(minus the stroker), +3 chrome swingarm. Chrome footpegs, chrome a-arms in the front, red frame,chrome DG Bumper, and he just got a full race port 350 banshee too.:D

But anyways, back to the question. So greg introduced my dad to his engine builder, and he got the carb from him. Its my dads car, so I have not a clue what the carb is, besides they drill out the butterflies so that the winston cup cars will idle with their cam profile. (i guess its really wild?)

Clay
01-17-2002, 06:12 PM
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/2f467242/bc/MY+1997+Chevy+Z71/Another+View..jpg?bcIF.l8AGppmIjri
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/2f467242/bc/MY+1997+Chevy+Z71/Tires..jpg?bcIF.l8AqNFhK0eL

I love my truck. :D It hauls the quads and picks up women!! Dual Purpose. Im likin' it.:machohttp://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/2f467242/bc/MY+1997+Chevy+Z71/There+she+is..jpg?bcIF.l8AkAXuIs2l

free_rider20
01-17-2002, 06:39 PM
Hey LRD TRX250R and ChadEXer I rode in a V6 mustang the other day and i didnt think it felt like that much power, my dad said it couldnt beat our Durango R/T In acceleration, I loved that truck too bad we got rid of it. So dont be gettin high hopes cause you beat a v6 mustang.

01-17-2002, 07:01 PM
dude a bone stock civic SI will rape a v6 stang. They are a waste of metal if you ask me! I don`t sit here and cheer beating a 88 Civic HX hatchback.

01-17-2002, 07:37 PM
this Extreme Blazer:
http://www.chevrolet.com/blazer/images/gallery/gallery_major04.jpg
w/ this in the trunk!!!
http://www.customautosounds.com/install/newpics/15W3.JPG

later, Nick

01-17-2002, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by topgun400ex
[,Dropped body,edelbrock susp. [/B]

if i'm right a trans am is a uni body car. so my question is how do you body drop a uni body car. A body drop is lowering the body mounts on the frame. It's also more common on trucks. Please explain?

01-17-2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by free_rider20
Hey LRD TRX250R and ChadEXer I rode in a V6 mustang the other day and i didnt think it felt like that much power, my dad said it couldnt beat our Durango R/T In acceleration, I loved that truck too bad we got rid of it. So dont be gettin high hopes cause you beat a v6 mustang.
If you knew how slow my truck is you'd understand

RideRed04
01-17-2002, 09:10 PM
It is all in the clutch. My s-10 can pull a lot more cars than it should be able to... I blame our lazy automatic transmition society. It is a 2.2L for God's sake! Hey, did any of you see the caviler in hotrod that was puting out 650hp? out of a 2.2L? Gives me some hope!

beerock
01-17-2002, 09:24 PM
edit* double post

Sleeping Catfish
01-17-2002, 09:35 PM
wow some of you have some nice cars. i never really got into cars, i like cycles better. i think when i turn 16 i am going to try to get a suzuki GSXR-1000 so i can kill any car. you just have to be careful so some moron doesn't run into you or you are dead.:(

beerock
01-17-2002, 09:36 PM
heres a pic of the boat motor
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p61dc2aa02912200f5b082bb86cbf6bf5/fdfdacf5.jpg

these are pics of my friends baracuda with a worked 318 .
I like mopar too.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p295cc47756347e839ca72e038a2c907c/fdfdacfc.jpg

oh heres that girl again ;)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p66fae8c6b82d2ff816c2878d17b568e3/fdfdabbc.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p285d6b90420a6a371efe39963d5f9218/fdfdabd5.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p9620e3ba30fdee7bb1d2a453aca47114/fdfdabe3.jpg

Thats my girl!

JustRace
01-18-2002, 08:35 AM
This is my uncles v-drive boat. its a 327 vette motor with a little go juice. I have more if anyone would like to see them.

ChadEXer
01-18-2002, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by free_rider20
Hey LRD TRX250R and ChadEXer I rode in a V6 mustang the other day and i didnt think it felt like that much power, my dad said it couldnt beat our Durango R/T In acceleration, I loved that truck too bad we got rid of it. So dont be gettin high hopes cause you beat a v6 mustang.
Man my hopes Are up. My wheels and tires weight more than the whole Stang!!! I was just using that as an example because LRD TRX 250R did. Actually you would be surprised how many different vehicles my truck will take!! Being how BIG my truck is thats a **** of a feat if you ask me!!

crday98
01-18-2002, 09:49 AM
this is what my baby will look like when i get my stripe kit.feel free to give your opinions;)

DEAL
01-18-2002, 11:49 AM
I know this is gonna sound really stupid , but my dream car is a buick regal , a guy at my school has one and its awesome (sure its not as good as those other cars you guys got there)

beerock
01-18-2002, 12:21 PM
that vdriveboat is nice, but id like to see it get past 30mph in 4-6ft waves ;)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p66c4d2e554ce5fe75e3f229e84b43d82/fdfd6e09.jpg

If I didnt have that boat, I would have a diesel truck, not sure what kind but I would.

heres my truck that I have now, it has the same engine my boat has but it doesnt have work done to the internals, just hedman headers, hedman3" catalytic converter, and a borla exhaust. with bfg 33 12.50's
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p3199440716b466b8824da4a21a2d8665/fdfd6d25.jpg its nothin special, but it hauls my quad around! ;)

Tommy 17
01-18-2002, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by crday98
this is what my baby will look like when i get my stripe kit.feel free to give your opinions;)

a guy around here has a black fire hawk its really nice i kinda like the black better then the silver but that car is very nice... u have to have ram air those are so nice... i love the sound of the cars too it has a nice sound to it...

ChadEXer
01-18-2002, 01:37 PM
Ram Air is SWEET. I just bought my wife a Grand Am GT with Ram Air. For a "family Sedan" that thing hauls butt. It looks sweet too.

JustRace
01-18-2002, 02:29 PM
This is what he took off of that boat. If you can't tell its twin turbos. I have been with him in his jet boat (olds 455 bb) when he hit a 4 ft wave. We hit it at 68mph, I thought we were going to die. He is banned from two of the lakes in michigan.:devil

MOFO
01-18-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by JustRace
This is what he took off of that boat. If you can't tell its twin turbos. I have been with him in his jet boat (olds 455 bb) when he hit a 4 ft wave. We hit it at 68mph, I thought we were going to die. He is banned from two of the lakes in michigan.:devil


OMG!!! :huh Someone is a little power hungry when it comes to boating! Damn!!!!!

Eric

JustRace
01-18-2002, 02:37 PM
Actually he is a little on the deep end when it comes to building motors. The exact same nitrous system on his boat fits on his 68 vette. His vette is awesome, its completely restored. It sucks that I don't have any pictures of it. But last time i talked to him he was going to stick nitrous on his fatboy (Harley Davidson).

01-18-2002, 04:01 PM
A good friend of mine just heard today that his car will be in Mopar Monthly. Also he has heard from Popular Hot rodding too. It is a 72 cuda with a viper v-10 and twin marine turbos. It is almost finished and when he gives me some pics i will show you guys. You can talk to him online when he gopes on his aol name is V10cuda and his name is jack. He also has a mid 12 second work truck with a juiced 360. He is nuts!

*update* The friggin tremec is in my stang. I love the way it shifts! Now i can up the shot! Now it is an official ws-6 killah!

NJ300ex
01-18-2002, 08:14 PM
There are 2 of those little boats on my lake. The guys that have them are pansies though. They only go everyonce in a while and stop at the end of every cove. Both there boats shoot out 50 foot rooster tails. The go out on the lake in the morning at around 6 and sometimes i see them and race them on my jetski. They only beat me by a little bit on my jet ski in rough water and i bet they are 80 mph boats too. The jet ski only goes 62 but is awesome in rough water. It can go about 55 in 4 foot waves. I wish i had a scanner or digital camera to take pictures of it with.

BANSHEEadam
01-18-2002, 08:40 PM
Here's my 99 coug, all options. Back seats are a little useless....lol :D Put's out a whopping 170hp. I think that's fair though, it isn't made for draggin. Plus, I've only had it 3 weeks and I'm not yet legally able to drive. In the near future I'm puttin in a system, and gettin the power boosted up. Have to work it around my banshee though... findin more things wrong with it all the time. It's one lean, mean, paycheck eatin machine.

XxxTRiPxxX
01-18-2002, 09:37 PM
beings people are showing pics of there souped up boats i figured i throw this in. the white boat kind of in the back ground is my uncle jack in his gp race boat they use a fully blown big block chevy worked out to 510ci. it puts out about 1250 horses. ina straight they can reach speeds around 170 to 180 topped. if u guys dont believe i can take pics of our old boat and a boat that we are building in our barn. u guys from quebec may knwo the races that picture was taking at valleyfield.

signboy
01-18-2002, 10:04 PM
Here's a picture of my nephew's camaro. I did the graphics on it.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid28/p073deb21214703f32d7d4b434c9ece7e/fdfd300e.jpg.orig.jpg

Here's some fast cars. Ferrari 333sp winner of the Rolex 24 Hours at Daytona. In case you are wondering, I did the graphics on the transporter.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/peca67804db2aceec0d8b223a3675ee2d/fe19e80a.jpg.orig.jpg

Holty
01-18-2002, 10:51 PM
1999 S-10 Xtreme

2002 400ex

Holty
01-18-2002, 10:52 PM
nice little jump we have at our riding spot

crday98
01-18-2002, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider
*update* The friggin tremec is in my stang. I love the way it shifts! Now i can up the shot! Now it is an official ws-6 killah!
LOL,just bring it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p

01-19-2002, 07:19 AM
hey i am there! where do you live? I know what stock ws-6`s run so i hope you have some mods done.

Guy400
01-19-2002, 07:38 AM
This is the honest truth, I personally watched a bone stock WS6 6 speed run a 13.38 @ 105 (almost 106) mph. This was at Norwalk Raceway Park in Norwalk, Ohio. Altitude is roughly 900 ft. and the temperature was 76 degrees.

doctor_915
01-19-2002, 07:51 AM
Ya WS6's are pretty fast, never seen them run at a speedway though. Shocked the **** outta me when my uncle let me drive his for about 2 minutes.. Currently buidling a 96 Lumina, engine swapping a 4.3 V6 out of an S-10, the 3.8 that is in it now just ain;t gonna be enough and I dont have the room for a 305 or 350. It is going to be supercharged if I can find a supercharger for it in the next couple of months. The aftermarket is pretty strong for the Chevy 4.3 so it probably wont be too hard to find a good used one till I get a better paying job and buy a brand new one. As far as a system goes it has 4 12" fosgate punch XLC, w/ 2 punch amps and a JVC Excellon 4462 head unit. And another project is one my dad is starting to work on. He wants to put a 426 Hemi into his 96 Dodge Ram and get a Ram Air system on it...I dont think the 426 will fit though, it has a 360 in it now.

01-19-2002, 08:00 AM
If you go to www.pastreetracing.org and go to their meaage board look for a guy named 12sect/a. He is my friend mike. He had the fastest bone stock ws-6 in teh country. I witnesed it along with him having all teh time slips. He ran a 12.83 then a 12.91 and a 12.90. That is stock tires, air filter etc etc. Everyone knows him from www.ls1.com. Now the car sports a higher stall converter, drag radial and SLP exhaust. It quick as ****!

Scott
01-19-2002, 08:05 AM
Hey Doc, the 96 Ram 2500 series had the V-10 option. There's plenty of room for a 426 Hemi in the engine bay.

If he decides against putting $10k into a hemi, I've got an extra 440 I'll sell.

Guy400
01-19-2002, 09:08 AM
Wow, that's definitely one of the factory freaks. I know when I had my 4th Gen. there were some guys over at www.camaroz28.com that talked of time slips like those on stock LS1 cars.

doctor_915
01-19-2002, 09:21 AM
Hey Scott. Thanks for the info on the the engine bay. What did the 440 you are selling come out of? A want a Challenger RT w/ a Magnunm 440 someday. just wondering if that is what you had it in. I will talk to my dad about it. He isnt going to start this project for another 3 months or so though. He knows alot more about it than I do. A Hemi is a very expensive motor. I wonder if the Mopar guys originally thought how much this engine would be selling for back when they made it, and to think the main thing they did to make the Hemi was switch the heads on a 426 wedge to a hemispherical shaped head.

01-19-2002, 09:28 AM
Yeah I wanted a hemi car so i bought my GT. It does have hemispherical shape heads. :)

Scott
01-19-2002, 08:50 PM
Slowrider I'm not knocking you or your ride, the stang looks good, and from reading your posts, you know your stuff. BUT, as a Mopar freak, there's no way I can set quietly after you compare your ~290CI modular Ford to the Legendary 426. A 4.6 or 5.0 stang is never going to be cosidered a hemi-car. The Hemi is the Holy Grail for Mopar fans. I've heard rumors it was a gift directly from God, don't know if they're true or not...
No offense intended. :)

Doc: My spare 440 came out of a New Yorker I think. That's what I get from the casting numbers and stamp on the block.

01-19-2002, 10:19 PM
I hear ya scott i always bring this up when people are talking about the magical HEMI and how great it was. I say that i have a hemi. There is no disputing teh fact that my car has hemi heads therefore it makes it a hemi,same reason the HEMI is called a hemi. I understand that the HEMI was prob the best engine ever produced and isn`t imitation the greatest form of flattering?

There are engines that are almost as magical as the 426. How bout the fabulous 409? what a great engine, and my vote would be a slant six. i had a duster with a slant six. We spent 3 days driving the car is first gear tach burried and the damn thing would not pop. INCREDIBLE MOTOR!

crday98
01-20-2002, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider
I know what stock ws-6`s run so i hope you have some mods done. i just got mine a month ago,did some mods and have plans to do plenty more:) it sucks putting those 12 hour weekend shifts in at $32 an hour for some play money for mods:D i am undecided on what to do next so i figured i'd get the cash first then flip a coin:D
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~ws6luvr/pictures/frogsquish.gif

beerock
01-21-2002, 12:14 AM
heh, magical,yes,

I would just like to say that the lambogini diablo with the QUAD turbo's is a little more *magical* :p but the hemi is definately a awesome motor, look what big daddy don garlits did with it.

The cadillac that was built in the 30's with a V-16 sounds pretty crazy too.

Guy400
01-21-2002, 04:48 AM
How about Bugatti's (whose big brother is Volkswagen) W-18 and W-16 engine configurations?

Scott
01-21-2002, 05:59 AM
Slowrider: I like the hemi and enjoy the stories, but if I owned one I think I'd sell it for the $$. Plus I'm not interested in running hte valves all the time adjusting the lifters. But they do look cool. I definitely repsect the inline 6's. One of the few engines that is inherently balanced, no dampener/harmonic balancer needed. I have an article around here somewhere about the Cox Performance Machine Shop slant 6 dart. Completely done by two brothers, made the intake and a WHOLE bunch more. Blown, and I think they were bottle feeding it too. Anyway, it's a sub-10 second 1/4 mile car. Claimed to be the fastest slant 6 in the country right now.

Guy: the Bugatti is a W-16 design from VW. 1003 hp by European standards, 998 by US hp. Incredible.

GM unveiled a couple John Moss creations for drag racing this year in the front wheel drive classes. How about a 400hp Saturn and a 750hp Cavalier, both running 4 cylinders!?!?!?! That out to run with the import tuner cars...

Fast and the Furious? Yeah, well now the US iron is on the scene...

MOFO
01-21-2002, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by Guy660R
How about Bugatti's (whose big brother is Volkswagen) W-18 and W-16 engine configurations?

I believe the Bugatti is rated around 1001hp... :D talk about some power!

Isnt that amazing what they are doing these days. Ferdinand Peich (sp?) is on a war path with his companys. Out to have the biggest, baddest cars out. I cant wait to see the VW D1 (prototype name)....should be out within a year or so.



Eric

Guy400
01-21-2002, 06:34 AM
Here's the W-18 out of the Bugatti.

MOFO
01-21-2002, 06:38 AM
droool.....:D

Guy400
01-21-2002, 06:39 AM
Must be a diesel--I don't see any spark plugs:D

Scott
01-21-2002, 06:43 AM
So why did it take till now for someone to take the idea of staggering the blocks to add more cylinders and make it work? Oh, and Guy, my math apprears to be broken today, three V-6 engines are 18 cylinders like you said, not 16 like I replied.

How long do you think it will be before VW makes that a variable displacement design like GMC is doing? VW already has most of the necessary pieces on the engines.

Guy400
01-21-2002, 06:50 AM
Scott, I do believe that VW offers a W-16 as well. In fact, isn't it already in/going to be offered in VW's flagship vehicle?

I read about GM's variable compression ratioed motor that I believe Saab is testing right now. From what I remember the whole head seemed to have rocked to increase or decrease compression based on what the engine calls for in terms of power. I think the engine that they were using it on was a 4 cylinder or small V6, can't remember exactly. I'm thinking it was a 4 cylinder and was putting out some pretty good numbers. What was nice about it was it's efficiency. You can run 11:1 compression when accelerating from a stop light or passing someone but when you're just cruising down the highway it can be dropped back down to 9:1 and conserve fuel and decrease combustion head temperatures.

Scott
01-21-2002, 06:58 AM
I have read about the variable compression engine you're mentioning as well. The variable displacement is a different cat, and not quite as high tech. GMC is calling it Displacement-On-Demand. It drops cylinders (electrically compresses the lifters and holds them) while you're at highway speed and brings them back in if you increase throttle position or engine load. It's aimed at the pickups. The goal is about a 20% increase in fuel mileage without changing the driving characteristics of the truck.

And if I remember right, Saab is another step-child of GM.

I think there's a race between GM, Ford and VW to see who can own the most brand names...

MOFO
01-21-2002, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by Guy660R
Scott, I do believe that VW offers a W-16 as well. In fact, isn't it already in/going to be offered in VW's flagship vehicle?

I read about GM's variable compression ratioed motor that I believe Saab is testing right now. From what I remember the whole head seemed to have rocked to increase or decrease compression based on what the engine calls for in terms of power. I think the engine that they were using it on was a 4 cylinder or small V6, can't remember exactly. I'm thinking it was a 4 cylinder and was putting out some pretty good numbers. What was nice about it was it's efficiency. You can run 11:1 compression when accelerating from a stop light or passing someone but when you're just cruising down the highway it can be dropped back down to 9:1 and conserve fuel and decrease combustion head temperatures.


Yes, I believe it was going to be the top notch engine for the D1.

As for the war of "who can own the most companys", VW has a huge start on GM and Ford. They practically own every other car company in Europe.

And for that variable compression....you are correct about Saab's/GM setup. I dont see VW doing this in the future. They are pretty gung ho about turbo diesels in the future. Torque monsters with great MPG's.....


BTW, GM does own Saab. It was a sad, sad day to the hard core Saaber's when that happened...

Eric

Scott
01-21-2002, 07:11 AM
VW has recently bought up a lot of names, but Ford beat them to the idea. And when you start adding up the foreign names that GM and Ford sell their cars under (in Austrailia for instance), there's a lot of name plates between the three of them.

VW was doing pretty good until they took a beating buying the Rolls Royce plants, and didn't get the namesake.

MOFO
01-21-2002, 07:26 AM
Doesnt BMW get the rights to Rolls Royce in the next few years? Or was that Bently...i cant remember...

I think the list of companys VW owns is:

-VW
-Audi
-Lamborghini
-Seat
-Bently
-Bugatti
-Skoda

...I think i am missing one more company. Those are some pretty big names to pick up.

Just an FYI....the prototype D1 now has a name. Its being called the VW Phaeton....VERY interesting car to say the least! Looks like they are only using the W12 for the top notch engine. I think Bugatti is only getting the W16 or W18.

Some very good links:

VW Phaeton Factory (http://forums.exriders.com/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&threadid=6601)

VW Phaeton (specs and info) (aka D1) (http://forums.exriders.com/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&threadid=6601)



Eric

Scott
01-21-2002, 08:15 AM
VW bought the Rolls plants out from under BMW, so then BMW went to Rolls Royce Engines and bought them, which also got them the name Rolls Royce that they wanted to begin with. So now VW is going to sell the "Rolls Royce" as a Bugatti.

Ford dosn't have too many badges:
Lincoln
Mercury
Astin-Martin
Volvo
Jaguar
and 40% of Mazda
They had about 30% of Nissan, but sold it to Peoguet (sp?)

GM has several of their own and then 30% of a lot more.
Chevy
GMC
Pontiac
Olds (going away)
Caddy
Saab
Opel
Holden (Australia)
and 30% of the following
Isuzu
Suzuki
Alpha Romeo
Fiat
Ferrarri
Maserati
Hyndai
Kia
Lancia

So between the three, there's at least 21 nameplates, and portions of at least 10 more.

86atc250r
01-21-2002, 11:26 AM
Here's a pic of my Vette for anyone who's not seen it..

http://home.earthlink.net/~gellett/vette.jpg

Here's a couple pics of it just after we finished it the first time when I was 16:
http://home.earthlink.net/~gellett/blkvette.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~gellett/blkvette2.jpg

beerock
01-21-2002, 02:33 PM
that vette looks much better in red.

you forgot porsche the mother load for vw or did porsche go run away to be all by itself?


I think the best power to weight ratio engine ever built was in geoff brabahms 300zx imsa gtp car. 3 world championships in a row prove it too.

that nissan v-8 twin turbo was capable of putting out 1000+ Hp


I do like the wankel motor alot though

you could put an endless amount of those motors together and make some crazy power that rev out to like 20,000 rpms
:eek:
I would love to se it done.

MOFO
01-21-2002, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by beerock
that vette looks much better in red.

you forgot porsche the mother load for vw or did porsche go run away to be all by itself?


I think the best power to weight ratio engine ever built was in geoff brabahms 300zx imsa gtp car. 3 world championships in a row prove it too.

that nissan v-8 twin turbo was capable of putting out 1000+ Hp


I do like the wankel motor alot though

you could put an endless amount of those motors together and make some crazy power that rev out to like 20,000 rpms
:eek:
I would love to se it done.


from my knowledge, Porsche was never "legally" or offically tied to VW in anyway. There is a family connection though.. Ferdinand Peich's (CEO of VW) grandfather was Ferdinand Porsche, the father of Porsche. I believe they are in bed on a few items though. The new Porsche SUV and the new VW SUV share ALOT of the same parts bins.... kinda makes ya wonder sometimes...

eric

86atc250r
01-21-2002, 02:42 PM
I actually liked the black better (it's currently red). I've floated back and forth over the years over which I prefer..

The red shows all the body lines better, but the black was amazing in person. I also got FAR more comments when it was black. The pictures truly don't do the black justice (the one with the trees in the hood begins to give you an idea)..

The wide, low profile tires it has now also make a big difference over the narrow stockers it had when the black pics were taken.

Scott
01-21-2002, 02:49 PM
I think the best power to weight ratio engine ever built was in geoff brabahms 300zx imsa gtp car. 3 world championships in a row prove it too.


Not even close if you want to talk about race cars. How about John Force? 6500hp. More than I can remember world chmpionships IN A ROW. He's pretty much won for the last decade. I think that counts for dominating your sport. Ol' McGrath didn't come close to that kind of dominance.

Guy400
01-21-2002, 03:18 PM
Gabe, whatcha runnin' in that Vette?

86atc250r
01-21-2002, 03:38 PM
Right now it's a tired old 350 .030" over with oldschool 300hp style heads off a 69' 350 Camaro (bolt holes for accessories). It's in front of a TH350 with a 3.55 posi. It'll turn about a 12 flat @ 1000' - my 60' kills me at 2.2 to 2.3 sec. Not too bad though for being a daily driver & the budget I was under when I was 17 (had to buy all my own stuff with money I made working after school and on the weekends)

Really the only update it's gotten since those days is an Electromotive TEC-II programmable fuel injection system with direct fire ignition.

I plan on building a new engine for it that develops in the neighborhood of 400 to 450 HP, but I've got to build myself a shop building first (new house).

I've been thinking along the lines of a longrod 406, or possibly something more exotic like a 352 (.030 over 400sb with a 307 crank and 6.2" rods) - just really can't decide - too many options.

Guy400
01-21-2002, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by 86atc250r
I've been thinking along the lines of a longrod 406, or possibly something more exotic like a 352 (.030 over 400sb with a 307 crank and 6.2" rods) - just really can't decide - too many options. That sounds like a very good combination. You've got the big bore and the short stroke. That combined with 6.2" rods and you've got something that should rev pretty freely. Boy do I love wrenching on cars, probably more than quads (can I say that in here??).

MR. HONDA EX'S
01-21-2002, 05:11 PM
HEY LRD, I had a 87' f-150 with a 4.9 300 inline 6 w/ a 4 on the floor 2wd. I had dual 3'' pipes out the back w/ no muffler. That truck was a blast to drive. I wish I still had my old blackhole. 1st and 2nd gear was the best. I traded it for a 97' dodge ram 4x4 w/ a 318. Now I have a 99' Z71 ext. w/ a 5.3 327. Nice truck Don't have a pic of my first truck. 76' chevy c10 rusted out junk bed and cab, 2wd 350 2bbl auto. and this thing would do about 110 mph, and with only front brakes it would powerbrake like mad. It only cost $400 too.....:devil

Pro400EXC
01-21-2002, 05:13 PM
I defintly gotta get me a Supra.

How are those GMC Syclone Pickups? I hear they can run 8's in the 1/4mile with some money in the motor!

There's a guy that has a street legal Supra making 1050HP!

01-21-2002, 06:02 PM
8? nahh 11`s and 10`s are more practicle. For that truck to run 8`s it would require MAJOR chassis modifacations.

Welp fellas the stang ( not the 96) is in my garage, powerglide is out, i am debating on a Art Carr built c6 or a lenco or liberty 5 speed. Not quite sure yet. Also i am planning on running a 392 stroker. I was seriously considering a 460 and a 331 like the previous owner but i am almost positive it will be a DSS 392 stroker, and prob juice. I am a nitrous guy, i put it on everything (except my quad, i would if i had a sneeky pete bottle) . I am shooting on a mid july shake down session.

Can anyone say 10.5 inch tire? HAHAHAHHA

beerock
01-21-2002, 06:10 PM
scott, I doubt john forces motor could run fora fraction of the amount of time those imsa gtp cars run.

especially when they run 24hour races ;)

jhon force is awesome but your talking about a different beast, I should have said power to eight AND longevity.

crday98
01-21-2002, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by 86atc250r
Here's a pic of my Vette for anyone who's not seen it..
nice vette gabe;)
can anyone say CORVETTE SUMMER?does anyone remember that movie:D ?now that was one bad-*** lookin vette.i think if you modded that scoop a little and threw on some flames it would look pretty close;) :D .Corvette Summer is a toss-up between The WRAITH as my favorite car movie:o

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 02:39 PM
Here is a pick of one of my tricked out cars

Guy400
01-22-2002, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Here is a pick of one of my tricked out cars Where:confused:

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 03:12 PM
Its too big im workin on it and will post pics here in a minute

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 03:28 PM
Ok lets see if this works

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 03:38 PM
Ok lets try again

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 03:39 PM
Heres another

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 03:40 PM
another

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 03:43 PM
Last one. Check out those wheels and that color changing sparkles in that paint. ooooooh I love her

01-22-2002, 04:37 PM
hmm bling bling with wanna be mystic paint. I am the type of person who always says whats on his mind and what is on my mind now is where the vomit bag is. Whats the deal with that monstrosity? Chrome fender trim? dude seriuosly do you actually think your car looks good?

*vomits*

JustRace
01-22-2002, 04:52 PM
Is that the typical rice or do you actually have a motor to back up that wing.:confused:

But I do like the wheels. I haven't seen to many like those.

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 05:17 PM
I have about $8000 in the motor. Greddy Turbo, comp sys, and the whole works. It will run the 1/4 mile in 10.6 sec. And thats with my Big Ole chrome wheels Mach 1 done all the work for me.

ChadEXer
01-22-2002, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider
hmm bling bling with wanna be mystic paint. I am the type of person who always says whats on his mind and what is on my mind now is where the vomit bag is. Whats the deal with that monstrosity? Chrome fender trim? dude seriuosly do you actually think your car looks good?

*vomits*
If you aint got nothin nice to say then dont say nothing at all.

01-22-2002, 06:16 PM
What stage greddy kit? Greddy is friggin junk! 2 of my boys own a shop called psi proformance all they do is import cars and marine turbo applications so i can hold my own when it comes to turbo cars.

Is that a GS-t? if so any more than 12 psi and that motor is nothing more than a door stop. And 10.6? i wanna see some slips. My friends type R with a built motor and a drag durbo kit ran a best of 10.80 with slicks and a damn god like 1.6 short time.

Things just don`t add up.................

Guy400
01-22-2002, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider
What stage greddy kit? Greddy is friggin junk! 2 of my boys own a shop called psi proformance all they do is import cars and marine turbo applications so i can hold my own when it comes to turbo cars.

Is that a GS-t? if so any more than 12 psi and that motor is nothing more than a door stop. And 10.6? i wanna see some slips. My friends type R with a built motor and a drag durbo kit ran a best of 10.80 with slicks and a damn god like 1.6 short time.

Things just don`t add up................. That's not entirely true. I had a '92 Talon TSi AWD and was running the factory motor on factory turbo with 106,000 miles on it at 16-18psi and I beat the dog piss out of it. Factory boost is 11psi so 12psi is very easy on the motor. I do agree, though, 10.6 seems a little fast. Chad, that I'm not saying you're lying but I believe the Greddy system for the DSM's have a single 4" or 5" tip. Your exhaust looks to be the factory dual chrome tips.

01-22-2002, 06:41 PM
i am talkin about the newer eclipses. The awd cars of 90-92 could handle the boost. 16-18 psi is pushing it on stock fuel system without a FMU or a larger pump, injectors. The gs-t was not meant to be a ture turbo built car like the eariler ones. Therefor higher boost and not enough fuel = door stop.

96300ex
01-22-2002, 06:49 PM
'79 Camaro Z28
-stinger hood scoop (info for you F-body boys who think you're special... this is where it began)
-ZZ4 crate 350
-hooker headers
-Borla Mufflers
-the anti emmisions elves stole my converter
-Holly 4bbl
-Borg warner T-10 (original tranny, not the super)
-K&N filter
-posi rear and other factory goodies

It does fine in a drag, but the stock rear is a geared a little high for really good et's. It's set up for **** raising. T-tops on it has a top speed around 150. smokes ricers off the line, but it really shines when I race someone down the highway. When I start around 60 and race some ricer, i can really whoop up. Not bad for a "Gas Crunch" car, once you let it breathe those second gen cars haul butt.

Guy400
01-22-2002, 06:58 PM
Yes, 16+psi is on the unsafe side for a stock fuel system and 18psi shouldn't be run constantly. But, 15psi and below is well in the safe zone for both 1st and 2nd Gen. DSM's. You can go to any DSM board and they'll all say the same thing.

Pro400EXC
01-22-2002, 08:58 PM
How does the engine bay of this nice 94 Supra look?

Pro400EXC
01-22-2002, 09:19 PM
Here's yah a Nice Supra. Its making 800hp.

crday98
01-22-2002, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by 96300ex
'79 Camaro Z28(info for you F-body boys who think you're special... this is where it began)did i miss something????call me silly but i don't remember saying that i thought i was special nor do i remember any other "F-body boy" claiming to be either.

PhilMoore
01-22-2002, 10:42 PM
Nothing special, but it is fun to cruise around in. Toni and I get a little attention...

01-23-2002, 12:20 AM
here's a pic of my truck

Scott
01-23-2002, 06:07 AM
PhilMoore: Is that a '73?

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Guy660R
That's not entirely true. I had a '92 Talon TSi AWD and was running the factory motor on factory turbo with 106,000 miles on it at 16-18psi and I beat the dog piss out of it. Factory boost is 11psi so 12psi is very easy on the motor. I do agree, though, 10.6 seems a little fast. Chad, that I'm not saying you're lying but I believe the Greddy system for the DSM's have a single 4" or 5" tip. Your exhaust looks to be the factory dual chrome tips.
Yes they are dual chrome tips but I had them specially made that way. I do not really like the large single tip mufflers. I have a lot of money in the motor of that car. i will try to scan a pic of the receipt of when I had all that stuff done. I will try to find it at the house tonight when I get home. To be very honest I did get the 10.6 mark one time but most of my runs were around 11.

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 08:15 AM
Here is a pic of my truck. It will outrun the car!!!! LOL

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 08:16 AM
another

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 08:18 AM
last one

01-23-2002, 09:06 AM
Hey Chad,
Nice truck! What tires and lift do you have on it? What other mods do you have?

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Fourstrokefan
Hey Chad,
Nice truck! What tires and lift do you have on it? What other mods do you have?
Ive got a 3in body lift and a 6in Rancho Double shock suspension lift and some 36in Swamper TSL's. I have a custom interior that has red carbon fiber on the dash and doors and custom black\red leather seats with RAM Head logos stitched in the seats and one big on on the fold down console. I have a Kenwood Excelon CD player with MASK. 4 Rockford 10's behind the seats. 2 Rockford Punch power 800 amps, and a Kenwood Excelon amp on the highs in the doors and the eyeball tweets on the dash and an Epicenter to top it all off with. I am running it with a Lightning 1 farad Capacitor and a Optima Red Top battery. On the motor I have JBA Headers flowin to dual Flowmasters with no tips. Jet chip. Airaid intake and throttle body spacer. All wires under the hood are Red. Valve covers are powder coated Red also. This is what I hual my quad with!!

01-23-2002, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer

Yes they are dual chrome tips but I had them specially made that way. I do not really like the large single tip mufflers. I have a lot of money in the motor of that car. i will try to scan a pic of the receipt of when I had all that stuff done. I will try to find it at the house tonight when I get home. To be very honest I did get the 10.6 mark one time but most of my runs were around 11.


What are your trap speed and 60 foot times? I find it hard to believe that it would run those times. i see it doesn`t have a cage so what track do you ruin it at? Also did you wear a fire jacket when runnin the car?

*looks for his bull**** flag*

Guy400
01-23-2002, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider



What are your trap speed and 60 foot times? I find it hard to believe that it would run those times. i see it doesn`t have a cage so what track do you ruin it at? Also did you wear a fire jacket when runnin the car?

*looks for his bull**** flag* I didn't even think about looking for a cage. At the 3 tracks I've been to if your car breaks 12's you've got to have a cage in it.

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider



What are your trap speed and 60 foot times? I find it hard to believe that it would run those times. i see it doesn`t have a cage so what track do you ruin it at? Also did you wear a fire jacket when runnin the car?

*looks for his bull**** flag*
Hey dont why dont you shut up before you piss me off! I dont need your lame uneducated comments. The only place I ran the car was here at a local strip. It was nothing big. Im not really that big into racing we would all get together and do it for fun. But I always won!! I have no reason to lie. If you think Im lying then just ignore what I say. I have no reason to lie or impress anyone. I just wanted to show a pic of one of my cars.

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Guy660R
I didn't even think about looking for a cage. At the 3 tracks I've been to if your car breaks 12's you've got to have a cage in it.
The strip we all run at is a mom and pop type thing owned by a couple of hillbillies. But they do organize races and the winner takes the pot every Sat night. They dont really have any rules! The people that done my work told me I need to get one but I told them I wouldnt be racing except for some friends and stuff riding on the loop(thats where we all ride and hang out) My friends begged me every day to take it to the strip and I finally did. I havent been in a while and I am going to sell the car. I was wanting 14000 for it but nobody will finance it for that much because of the "book" value of it. That is very very cheap compared to how much I have put in it.

Guy400
01-23-2002, 01:27 PM
They aren't lame and uneducated comments. You said you run 11's on several occasions and he noticed that you didn't have a cage in the car. ANY track that sees you run 11's and one time hit a 10.60 will ask you to discontinue racing until a cage is put in the car. You might get away with it once by using the "I didn't think it would go that fast" line once but they won't allow you to stay there and do it over and over again. It's a legitimate question and if you did run these times you should be able to quite easily tell us your trap speed and 60 foot times.

JustRace
01-23-2002, 01:41 PM
Even if it was a mom and pops place it seems like they would have to follow the same rules as everyother strip. Because if you or anybody else dies and they find out that they were letting you run a 10 or 11 sec without a roll cage could be facing a pretty good lawsuit.

01-23-2002, 02:57 PM
First of all I just want to know why Slowrider has a grudge against Chad? From the very first pic that Chad posted of his car Slowrider was on him. Saying how ugly the Mitsu was. You know what? I don't like the chrome on the fenders either but it is not my car therefore it is none of my business. Other than that I think that the car looked good.

You want to start flaming and throwing BS flags around? Fine! I would like to throw one at you, Slowrider. I hate to be the one to rain on your parade, but a WS-6 would eat your stang alive. Unless you have more mods than you are telling us about. You need to take it easy!

honda4life
01-23-2002, 03:05 PM
Here are a couple of links to a truck that will soon be tearin up the streets...I think that I am in love!http://www.4adodge.com/autoshow/news_events/srt10
http://www.wieckphoto.com/public/ then type srt10 in the search window

01-23-2002, 03:14 PM
Moms and pops use the same insurance company as larger tracks. I know this because i am good friends with the old owner of Atco raceway. There are only 2 insurance companies that will offer insurance to racetracks or motorsports on a large scale. If they did have insurance they would still have to abide by the NHRA rules. Atco was considering dropping the NHRA from their company so they could get different events and not have to be so strict about rules however their insurance company still made them abide by their rules.

Forestroke fan, i have NOTHING against chad, the car is nasty and that is my opinion so live with it. I just can`t stand these kids bs their way like they got something they don`t.

I asked simple questions, guy660 even understood what i was saying. I am just interested in how that car went 10.60`s when i have yet to see a car with a cheap greddy turbo kit break the 10.99 mark.

Here are the mods on my stang so you won`t feel bad when you staring at my taillights.....

99 heads and intake, Kirban ADJ FPR, 30lb injectors, BBK inline fuel pump and a walbro 255 with a walbro distrobution block to switch on the walbro when i activate the nitrous. Custom CAI, chip burnt by my shop BJ`s Performance. Steeda timing adjuster retarded 2 degrees MSD 6al with soft touch rev limter and BTM control so i can add or pull timing at my request, steeda UD pullys Off road x-pipe, steeda car back with race redies when i go to the track, 4.10 gears with a TA performance rear girdle, 6 point roll cage that connect to my custom subs ad drive shaft loop, tremec 5 speed with a cobra R bellhousing redrilled for the tremec pro 5.0 shifter with a tri-ax handle. Aluminum driveshaft, comp-u-car 90-150 nitrous kit with a NOS progressive controller and NOS purge. Fluidyne radiator with VW scricco electric fans, EGT guage and nitrous pressure in clock pod, oil and water in a pillar pod and FP on cowl. I also have 28.5 inch slicks on drag lites for the track.

It went 13.89 @ 104 with a 2.2 sixty on 17 inch street tires without any of the nitrous modfacations.

with the nitrous it made 338hp 407 pd feet tourqe. So i am guessing low 12`s or high 11`s with me power shifting teh **** outta it and slicks.

If you didn`t realize i do infact own a performance shop. It is called BJ`s Performance and it is located in Southern NJ. Don`t try to bs me bro i have to deal with ricers all day blowing up their DX`s cuz they slapped some NASSSS on it and went out to street race!

You can check me out at any NMRA national i have a blue 88 GT i run in renegade street.

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 03:16 PM
OK listen. Everyone just disregard what Ive said and I wont post nothing else about the car. Im not gonna sit here and listen to people flame me(slowrider) and call me a liar. I have no reason to lie or impress anyone so just forget about my car and I wont say another word about it. Im getting rid of the damn thing anyway.

01-23-2002, 03:20 PM
FLAME????? constructed critism? I asked some simple questions, trap speed and what not if that is a "flame" well so be it. I am sorry if came across that way but i am very interested in what you have done to post such good times....and all i get is you saying it`s a flame and that you aren`t lieing.

01-23-2002, 03:25 PM
You got me, I really feel bad. I won't be staring at your tail lights anytime soon. I drive a lifted pick-up truck, drag racing is obviously not what it was built for. But if it makes you feel ANY better at all, I am sure that your Stang would beat it in the quarter mile.

MOFO
01-23-2002, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Fourstrokefan
You got me, I really feel bad. I won't be staring at your tail lights anytime soon. I drive a lifted pick-up truck, drag racing is obviously not what it was built for. But if it makes you feel ANY better at all, I am sure that your Stang would beat it in the quarter mile.


LOL I was thinking the same thing. Now if we were talking about hitch to hitch pulling.... I'd be interested :D


Eric

01-23-2002, 03:31 PM
LOL hmmm tell ya what i`ll race you in my tow rig, aka my little s-10. It has the 4.3 so it will run umm 30`s?

LOL

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider
FLAME????? constructed critism? I asked some simple questions, trap speed and what not if that is a "flame" well so be it. I am sorry if came across that way but i am very interested in what you have done to post such good times....and all i get is you saying it`s a flame and that you aren`t lieing.
You started talking **** about my car from the first post so dont even give me that BS. You know, I hate Fords and I think they are garbage but I havent said nothing to you about it because that is my opinion. As far as the trap and 60 foot I have never even got a time. I have been to that track 2 times. I am not that big into racing and dont know a whole lot about it. i just wanted a car that was fast. You are right about the cage thing but all I can tell you is they never said anything to me about it. Just take it that im lying and leave me alone about it.
Thanks

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Fourstrokefan
You got me, I really feel bad. I won't be staring at your tail lights anytime soon. I drive a lifted pick-up truck, drag racing is obviously not what it was built for. But if it makes you feel ANY better at all, I am sure that your Stang would beat it in the quarter mile.
Hey fourstrokefan. What kind of truck do you drive? Lifted trucks are my favorite.

01-23-2002, 03:41 PM
hey i hate fords too. i just happen to drive 2 no biggie. I talked **** cuz your car is ugly and thats my opinion! Hey just cuz you didn`t say that you hated fords does that automaticly make you a better person in my eyes? NOPE so hey to each their own.

01-23-2002, 04:13 PM
I happen to drive one of those Fords that you hate. LOL! It is a 98 F-150. Go to my web page and check it out. The link is in my sig. I have done some things to it since those pics, but they are the most current that I have. You have to scroll down to get to the truck pics. E-mail me from my site.

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Fourstrokefan
I happen to drive one of those Fords that you hate. LOL! It is a 98 F-150. Go to my web page and check it out. The link is in my sig. I have done some things to it since those pics, but they are the most current that I have. You have to scroll down to get to the truck pics. E-mail me from my site.
I shot you over an email!!

01-23-2002, 05:28 PM
And Still no 60 foot times or MPH.....

HMMM........

I think you may have watched the fast and the furious one too many times.

PhilMoore
01-23-2002, 06:07 PM
Hi Scott,

Yep, it is a plain old '73. It is a real fixer upper. We bought it in primer. Toni and I sanded it and I painted it myself. You definately don't want to look too close!!!

Now I am glad I didn't get it professionally done because Toni has been backed into 3 times in two years!!!!! :eek:

After the last one (a f-150 makes a pretty big hole in fiberglass by the way), it just sits in the garage. I don't have the heart to put any more time into it to have some hillbilly back into it. Besides, quads are much more fun!!!

Pro400EXC
01-23-2002, 06:14 PM
Slowrider why haven't you said anything about my Baddazz Supra's (Dawgs) (thats what all the Supra owners call Supras)

The Supra isn't really a Ricer.

Chad your Car is nice,but plz rip that Fender trim off, and slap a Black paint Job on it, and it would be sweet.

Chad,do you have one of those sweet Blow Off valves that make that Pssss when you let off the throttle?

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Slowrider
hey i hate fords too. i just happen to drive 2 no biggie. I talked **** cuz your car is ugly and thats my opinion! Hey just cuz you didn`t say that you hated fords does that automaticly make you a better person in my eyes? NOPE so hey to each their own.
Well I have a good idea for you then. Why dont you keep your opinion to yourself. Thats what I try to do and it seems to work fine for me. Making enemies isnt your best bet.

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Pro400EXC
Slowrider why haven't you said anything about my Baddazz Supra's (Dawgs) (thats what all the Supra owners call Supras)

The Supra isn't really a Ricer.

Chad your Car is nice,but plz rip that Fender trim off, and slap a Black paint Job on it, and it would be sweet.

Chad,do you have one of those sweet Blow Off valves that make that Pssss when you let off the throttle?
This pic was taken right after I got the paint job done. Before I got it painted it was dark maroon and the paint around the fenders was discolored and scratched. (Looked like somebody used paint thinner or something to get tar off). So I bought the fender trim to cover it up. When I got it painted the paint shop put the fender trim back on. After these pics were taken I took the chrome fender trim off. Everybody told me how dumb they looked! The thing I was into mostly was car audio competitions and this is what this car has spent most of the time doing. I have a killer system in it.

Blysster
01-23-2002, 06:57 PM
Just thought i'd post a pic of my toys.. hope you enjoy

Blysster
01-23-2002, 06:59 PM
heres with the 400.. they're outdated but anyway

Blysster
01-23-2002, 07:03 PM
last one..

ChadEXer
01-23-2002, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Blysster
Just thought i'd post a pic of my toys.. hope you enjoy
Looks Good! My friend has one just like it except his is red with handbrushed graphics and his ground effects are different. His paint job costed him $5600. He has airbags on it too.

Blysster
01-23-2002, 07:17 PM
thanks man.. there is still alot i want to do to it.. and to the 400. wish i had more recent pictures but my scanner is broke

Scott
01-24-2002, 05:51 AM
Got a question.

PRO400EXC: Unless that Toyota Supra is powered by a small block chevy, how do you figure a Toyota isn't a ricer? Last time I checked, Toyota was a Japanese company.

Philmore: Sorry to hear about your run of luck with the Vette. My father and I are both into Vettes, only difference is he buys them while I just look. He's got two at the moment, a 69 and a 74, both coupes. I've mentioned the 69 before, it's kinda in the process of becoming mine (just got to get the shop built). It's a 427 (390hp, not the tri-power) with a BW Super T-10. Maroon w/ black int. Not the original paint, factory was hugger orange. The 74 he got two years ago. White w/ black int., 350/4spd. The 74 is more of the driver while the 69 just sets in the garage. Neither one is ready for a concourse (sp?) show, but they're both in pretty good shape. The white 74 has the better paint of the two. The wrong gel coat/primer was used on the 69, so it spidered badly.

Hope you get your 73 back in order and back on the road. It's a shame to see them setting in the garage all the time. I know!!!!

ChadEXer
01-24-2002, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Blysster
thanks man.. there is still alot i want to do to it.. and to the 400. wish i had more recent pictures but my scanner is broke
Yeah me too. I Still have a lot to do to my toys too. IT will never end. I get to where ill work on one of my trucks for a while then ill get tired of fixing em up and start on my 400 or one of my cars or my wifes quad or my little girls quad. I waste so much money it is terrible. I will buy a vehicle, Put a couple of thousand in it and have it looking real nice and then sell it and start on something differrent. I used to like imports and fixing them up but after I got my first truck I dont even really care to drive a car anymore!! My favorite now is lifting trucks. I have 2 lifted trucks now but I think I have sold one of them. I am 20 years old and I have been through 11 vehicles. Thats a shame!! I have decided to get rid of everything except my Dodge truck and my wifes Grand Am GT(she wont let me get rid of it). If I ever get any others I will get one of those Dodge Viper Rams and a Dodge Viper!! Ill never get rid of my quads . I will always have one for every family member. I have a little boy due any day now so I will be getting a new little one real soon!!! Ill quite rambling on now.

QuadRacer041
01-24-2002, 08:54 AM
i used to race my 91 gt at englishtown in nj all the time, from like '92 till around'97, i was a regular there. it rran 10.60@126 back then which was pretty good, but by todays standards its not that fast anymore. technoligy has progressed so much since then. when i was just about done with racing DFI was just out and was the thing to have, now from what i here its osolete.

crday98
01-24-2002, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Slowrider
It went 13.89 @ 104 with a 2.2 sixty on 17 inch street tires without any of the nitrous modfacations.

with the nitrous it made 338hp 407 pd feet tourqe. So i am guessing low 12`s or high 11`s with me power shifting teh **** outta it and slicks.

. that is a nice long list of mods and you still can't run faster than a stock WS6 with out the NOS:p :rolleyes: :huh :p

Blysster
01-24-2002, 12:57 PM
I hear ya ChadEXer.. i've just truned 20 also and am on my 6th car and probably like 20some ATV/bikes. It's allot of money! it's all good tho, i won't be able to afford all them toys when i have a house and kids (hopefully not soon) so why not have the toys while i can. I'll probably sell the truck soon tho.. once i get it done. I've just sold the 250R and i have a 500 Magnum too. No way i'd live without my wheelers!

ChadEXer
01-24-2002, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Blysster
I hear ya ChadEXer.. i've just truned 20 also and am on my 6th car and probably like 20some ATV/bikes. It's allot of money! it's all good tho, i won't be able to afford all them toys when i have a house and kids (hopefully not soon) so why not have the toys while i can. I'll probably sell the truck soon tho.. once i get it done. I've just sold the 250R and i have a 500 Magnum too. No way i'd live without my wheelers!
I already have a house and kids and I have since I was 16. Im lucky that I have a VERY VERY good job!! I like to pack up the family and go ride for the weekend so I will never have less 4 wheelers than family members! Im ready for Honda to come out with their "new" sport ATV. Thats what Im worried about and I know it will happen, bye the time I get this 400 "perfect" they will release it and I will have to go get me one. Thats the way it has always worked for me!!!

01-24-2002, 01:56 PM
1994 Accord DOHC V-TEC All customized inside and out, All Tweed carpet Shaved Tail Lights cadallic tailights turned side ways in bottom ground affect
18'Enkei wheels 3' JL Audios in trunk face up.
Bags Front and Back not side to side (YET)
Matrix intake, Full Race headers and pipe,
Runs AWESOME, Nicest car in Greeneville TN,

JustRace
01-24-2002, 02:05 PM
LMAO!!!!:huh

01-24-2002, 02:10 PM
1992 Nissan 350 Goodwrench motor, 4sd trans, Very Very FAST Port and Polish the whole motor has been
gone through buy Goodwrench Posse track. Supercharged!!! Looks are deceving!!!!!!

01-24-2002, 02:13 PM
Nissan again

01-24-2002, 02:15 PM
What do you mean buy LMAO!!

JustRace
01-24-2002, 02:16 PM
Thats probably one of the nicest nissan trucks i have ever seen. Great Job!

01-24-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by crday98
that is a nice long list of mods and you still can't run faster than a stock WS6 with out the NOS:p :rolleyes: :huh :p

Yeah isn`t that something. That 13.89 was with just a headswap and x-pipe not to shabby huh? However i still got the extra 15g`s in my pocket. Even with all my mods i still have 9 grand left in my pocket. It`s cool considering it`s my daily driver and all. HEHE

Guy400
01-24-2002, 06:38 PM
I ran a 13.36 @ 106 on 16psi of boost. Only mod was a K&N ($25), 2.5" Buschur Racing downpipe and cat-back ($500), Centerforce Dual friction clutch ($600 installed) and a $75 Hallman manual boost controller. Brings my total to about $1200 on a car with 106,000 miles and stock Kelly-Springfield tires.

01-24-2002, 07:06 PM
gotta respect the dsms. However the driveline doesn`t like that much stress. If someone could come out with a better design AWD system that was almost bulletproof i would get a awd talon.

Guy400
01-24-2002, 07:12 PM
The transmissions are pretty good. The transfer case and half-shafts are the weak link. Kept on stock tires and you'll be OK but start running slicks or grippy tires and you're asking for trouble. Under $2000 and you can get those 2 areas beefed up quite nicely. Nothing like dropping the clutch at 5200 RPM and barely hearing a squeak from the tires:D

01-24-2002, 07:44 PM
we did a 2000 type R at our shop. It was a nice clean quick little car. Well at Maple Grove raceway we lined up against a AWD talon and the guy in staging kept telling the guy to go thru the water and heat up the tires. I was laughin so hard!

Guy400
01-24-2002, 07:55 PM
That's a huge NO-NO! First off, if he was running treaded tires he'd have water 2/3's of the way down the track and track officials tend to frown on that! Secondly, if he was running street you'll commonly lose traction by overheating them.

Pro400EXC
01-24-2002, 08:01 PM
OK the Supra has a INLINE Six, and it doesn't have that wind-up car sound. It's a kick *** car that with about 5k in motor work will eat a Viper GT-S up. So say you buy a used Supra for 23K,but 5k in motor work and 2k in suspension, and you got a car that's cheapers than a Viper,but will eat it up. OK!

The Supra is it's own bread,its like the Acura NSX. Those Civics,Corrolas,Integra's and Eclipse's are RICERS!

NJ300ex
01-24-2002, 08:15 PM
sounds like you are in ricer denial.

waldo
01-24-2002, 08:27 PM
Me rotating the tires

01-24-2002, 08:58 PM
blysster,your truck was at the moncton speed sport and the you were at the debert show last summer right?

01-24-2002, 09:40 PM
My dad owns a black '93 Nissan 300ZX TT with t-tops, all stock. One of my favourite cars, and its mine come this summer, he just baught a '69 firebird, cant wait. :-)

Warrioreater400ex
01-24-2002, 10:39 PM
Anybody seen or read about the new Ford GT40!!!!??!??!? that thing should give the viper a run for its money!!! it looks bad and is the successor to the GT40 Ferrari slayers of old!

but DANG why did they quit makin all of those cars, the SUPRA and the RX-7.... haha i feel bad thinkin supras are AWESOME, but it was my dream car before "the fast and the furious" even came out!

By the way im just wondering, but does anyone know what a stock viper runs??


The GT40 concept is powered by a supercharged and intercooled 5.4-liter 32-valve V8, mated to a 6-speed manual transmission. The engine produces 500 horsepower and more than 500 lb-ft of torque.

Heres a pic of the new Ford GT40!

Warrioreater400ex
01-24-2002, 10:40 PM
heres a picture of the engine

JustRace
01-24-2002, 10:45 PM
Well this is the new viper. It still has 500hp but i read on motor trend that there will not be any numbers perfomance wise until summer. It should be a little faster because they took over 100lbs off of the total weight.

http://www.motortrend.com/mar01/viper/viper2.jpg

http://http://www.motortrend.com/mar01/viper/vipereng.jpg

Blysster
01-25-2002, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by freestyle_400EX
blysster,your truck was at the moncton speed sport and the you were at the debert show last summer right?

Yeah I had it in a few shows around the province... Where abouts are you from?

Scott
01-25-2002, 06:33 AM
Pro400EXC

Somebody must've overdosed on silly pills. When was the last time you and your Supra lined up along side a Viper GTS at the track?

Here's the numbers from 1996 for you and BlastrEatr300ex
Remeber, this is an "old style" pushrod, 2 valves per cylinder engine.

1996 Viper GTS
Base Price $72, 830
HP 450 @ 5200
Torque 490 @ 3700
Redline 6000

Displacement 488CI (7990cc)
Comp Ratio 9.6:1
Trans 6 spd manual
Rear Diff 3.07:1 limited slip. No other options.

0-60 4.0 sec
0-100 9.2 sec
1/4 mile 12.3 @ 115 mph
Top Speed 177 mph
Skidpad 0.96g

Speed @ redline
1st gear 54mph
2nd gear 81 mph
3rd gear 111mph
4th gear 145 mph
5th gear (@5450RPM) 177mph
6th gear (@2900RPM) 140mph


Tell me again how your inline 6 is going to smoke that??? And if you can juice your 6 up to get close, how many passes are you going to get till it pops? Meanwhile, this can do it all day long and not brake a sweat, and has a factory warranty.

As for the cool factor, park a Supra beside a Viper and see how many people are interested in the Supra. Someone will probably ask about the Supra, but they'll be asking you to move it to free up some space around the Viper.

BlasterEater300EX: Sounds like it's pretty unlikely that Ford will take the new GT40 past the concept stage, and that's too bad. I would enjoy seeing a supercar battle between the GT40/Viper GTS/ and a GM Tuner Vette. You just can't have too many American Muscle Cars IMO.

Scott
01-25-2002, 06:43 AM
Something I didn't mention, since I know the Supra response is going to be something along the "tuner" lines, I believe it was Hennessey's first Viper mod, back around 93 I'd guess (I'm not sure on the date, but I'm positive on the mod), was to add headers and match the intake runners to the ports on the heads, and the Viper picked up 150hp. To me, that sounds like the big 8.0 is kinda restricted and wants to breathe. The only thing with an 8.0 on it in a Supra are the speakers in the back.

And the Supra and NSX are not a bread of their own, although the NSX is pretty stale. They're also not a breed of their own like you meant to say. The Supra doesn't get considered in any of the supercar shhotouts with the Vette and Viper, and the NSX has been stagnant for so long, no one buys them. And why would you? For less money you can get a base C-5 Vette that outperforms it in about every category. Or go for the Z06 option package and have a real Road Warrior.

01-25-2002, 07:22 AM
blysster
yeah dude.i knew i saw your truck before.im from amherst.we should hook up and go riding this year.are you into mx?

DEAL
01-25-2002, 08:25 AM
blysster
Who did the paintjob on your truck?

Blysster
01-25-2002, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by freestyle_400EX
blysster
yeah dude.i knew i saw your truck before.im from amherst.we should hook up and go riding this year.are you into mx?

I'd be up for that freestyle_400... my sister studies in Sackville

I'm only starting to get inot MX, I mostly do trail riding tho. All the tracks up here are aggressif dirtbike tracks so it's not all that great for wheelers.

FreeStylexrider: A friend of mine painted it in Saint John.. Action + customs.

Warrioreater400ex
01-25-2002, 11:04 AM
yeah, but on anything but a straight course drag, wouldnt the supra edge out a viper?? i would think so but thats just my opinion, but i still think the supra is the most awesome foreign PRODUCTION sports car ever made. but still why did they quit making them???

Warrioreater400ex
01-25-2002, 11:05 AM
oh yeah and about the GT40, the engine is the same based engine that is in the lightning, except it has TWICE the valves!!! in a smaller body, rear engined car.... man thad be awesome if it gets past concept stage.

Scott
01-25-2002, 11:29 AM
Here are some numbers I found for the Supra. I got these as well as the numbers for the Viper above from Car and Driver raod tests, so anybody can check and see that I'm not making them up.

1997 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
$41,252 (as tested price)
320hp (no rpm given, no redline given)
3.0L Inline 6 w/ DOHC

Automatic transmission
0-60 5.3 sec
1/4 mile 13.7 @ 105 mph

6 spd manual
0-60 4.8 sec
1/4 mile 13.4 @ 107 mph


From those numbers, there's no way a stock supra will run with a viper. Straight line, road course, whatever, won't matter.
But this comparison is like a stock 400 and a stock raptor, the more expensive one is faster. If you took the difference in price and used that money to modify the cheaper one, you should be able to make it faster than the expensive one. But just remember, the expensive one can be modded as well (if you have the cash) and that just makes it that much faster...

As for why they quit building them, there wasn't a lot of demand for $40,000 cars. And by 97, for equal money you could get a Vette that would out perform the 'yota. The price in 1997 was AFTER Toyota lowered it, that same car in 1996 was over $52,000. I think they priced themselves out of the market. Just like the 300ZX and RX-7.

That Supra has 320hp. You can go pick up family sedans today with 260-280hp. (Nissan Maxima/Altima, BMW M3, Subaru WR, and the list goes on...)

We're living in the new muscle car era. Family sedans putting as much power to the ground as my 440CI big block mopar. Now that's a grocery getter!

Guy400
01-25-2002, 03:01 PM
I got a couple of mpegs for anyone interested in the Supra that shows both sides of this argument. The first video is of a Supra-motored Lexus that comes from behind and runs down 2 11 second RX-7's and a Viper Venom 500. Watch the video and you'll be extremely impressed with what the Supra powerplant is capable of. Before anyone calls BS on this, the owner of the Lexus has serious work in this car and the Viper owner verified that he was beat. The Viper didn't give up or anything like that, he stepped on the brakes when the Lexus pulled up next to him. The 2nd video is on the flip side of the argument. It shows an illegal street race of a Syclone beating up on a Supra. Anyone who wants these reply to this thread or email me.

Pro400EXC
01-25-2002, 03:20 PM
AAA-HEM, ok like I said you CAN BUILD A SUPRA TO SMOKE A VIPER! The Viper may smoke a Supra in 0-60 time's but there are Supra's out there that will smoke $150,000 Hennessy Viper Venom 500's! There is a guy that has a 1059hp Street Legal Supra!
Here's that 1059HP Supra owned by Saad Saad! Might look stock,but it's got some muscle!

01-25-2002, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Guy660R
I got a couple of mpegs for anyone interested in the Supra that shows both sides of this argument. The first video is of a Supra-motored Lexus that comes from behind and runs down 2 11 second RX-7's and a Viper Venom 500. Watch the video and you'll be extremely impressed with what the Supra powerplant is capable of. Before anyone calls BS on this, the owner of the Lexus has serious work in this car and the Viper owner verified that he was beat. The Viper didn't give up or anything like that, he stepped on the brakes when the Lexus pulled up next to him. The 2nd video is on the flip side of the argument. It shows an illegal street race of a Syclone beating up on a Supra. Anyone who wants these reply to this thread or email me.

I have both videos and the supra vs syclone was in philly and i saw that with my own eyes. The lexus was in SCC about a year ago, the guy had about 25k in the car besides the cost of the sc400(or 300 i forget what it`s called) .

Guy400
01-25-2002, 04:25 PM
I got the vids off a car forum, can't remember which one about a year and a half ago. The guy has a web site but I can't remember what it is. Anyway, he's got some other slick toys. An LT1 Pathfinder was one of them along with a couple others.

But you're right, the Lexus has a lot of money in it.

Guy400
01-25-2002, 04:27 PM
I got the vids off a car forum, can't remember which one about a year and a half ago. The guy has a web site but I can't remember what it is. Anyway, he's got some other slick toys. An LT1 Pathfinder was one of them along with a couple others.

But you're right, the Lexus has a lot of money in it. As far as the Sy/Supra race, the Supra even "redlights" (if there is such a thing in street racing) and gets beat. The starter raises his hands and the Supra launches before he dropped them. The Sy takes an honest launch and catches him and passes, it was awesome to see the good 'ole U. S. of A. win!

01-25-2002, 04:44 PM
you got them from www.pastreetracing.org That is my friend chris` site.

Actually there are 2 races that were between the sy and supras. If it was a dark colored supra it was Bens car. If it was red he is a whole diff story. He is from bad racing, he is a 50 year old guy with ever car running single didgets. That was the beginning stages of the supra now it is qwik! He also has a Jimmy and stang all single didgets.

Pro400EXC
01-25-2002, 05:34 PM
Hey,Scott, Well the supra isn't made anymore so, thats probably why it isn't in any SUPER CAR tests. And the Vette a super car? I wouldn't think they consider that a Super Car, now a Ferrari 550,Porsche GT4,McLaren, or those cars along the Lines, a super car,but not a Vette. The stock vette aslo does not OutPerform it in every category. The Supra is not really a Drag car,but most people turn them into that. The Supra is like a 400ex,its got real good handling,so it's a good RoadCourse car,and not drag car like the Vette. I bet, the Supra will run head to head (stock vs. Stock) agaisnt a Vette, at Luguna Seca!

. [/QUOTE] Something I didn't mention, since I know the Supra response is going to be something along the "tuner" lines, I believe it was Hennessey's first Viper mod, back around 93 I'd guess (I'm not sure on the date, but I'm positive on the mod), was to add headers and match the intake runners to the ports on the heads, and the Viper picked up 150hp. To me, that sounds like the big 8.0 is kinda restricted and wants to breathe. The only thing with an 8.0 on it in a Supra are the speakers in the back.

JustRace
01-25-2002, 06:33 PM
I have some cool street racing vids too. I have twin turbo firehawk vs. a Thunderbolt, challenger vs. Porshe, and some where a nsx vs a z.

400exRacerX
01-25-2002, 09:34 PM
This is my box with my two 12" rockfords in it,

doctor_915
01-25-2002, 11:23 PM
Nice setup RacerX, those are the same speakers I am running but I am running 4 in a band pass enclosure. What kind of amp you have, head unit? I need a new head unit, damm JVC keeps pis*in me off.

400exRacerX
01-26-2002, 10:16 PM
I am running three Rockford 500 watt 4 channel amps. I have a kenwood head unit with the rotating faceplate on it. The head unit has a cassette player in it and I have a kenwood 6 cd changer in the back on the amp rack. I am also running alpine speakers front and back. All I need now is a decent car.

If you wanna see a insane system my sisters boyfriend has one. He is running 6 12" Rockford subs in a custom box. 6 500 watt rockford amps on a custom amp rack. A alpine headunit with a 10 cd changer in the back. He had alpine speakers front and back. 2 crossovers, a battery with more voltage, and a bigger altenator. This was all crammed into a ford probe and this system is insane, he has won almost every sound off he has been to. I'll have to get some pics.

doctor_915
01-26-2002, 10:29 PM
That sounds like an insane system. I want to fill the bed of a Dodge Ram with 15 inchers...(just a dream) currently this system is still being built but in another 9-12 months it sould all be put in my Lumina so here it goes: 4 Audiobahn 1205X's with 4 Audiobachn 1000watt(RMS) amps into 2 ohms, 1 channel amps. (in the trunk) under the rear seat 2 Audiobahn 1000X's w/ 2 500watts(RMS) 1 channel amps running to them. 1 crossover not sure on brand yet, for the MB quarts that will be run in the doors, prolly a Fosgate 2 Channel 300 watt amp for those. MBquart silk Dome tweeters 1" running off the component speaker's amp. I still havent decided on a head unit yet. It will also have a Lightning 1 Farad cap and 4 batteries in the trunk to run it. I only have the subs now and if my durrent finiancial situation doesn't shape up soon I might not get to complete this. O well. Sorry for all the time.

Scott
01-28-2002, 11:01 AM
As for building a Supra to beat a viper, I already posted:


If you took the difference in price and used that money to modify the cheaper one, you should be able to make it faster than the expensive one.


So yes, I could take a Chevette and a few $k and beat the stock viper. Blown 454 in a 1200 lb car with a narrowed 9" and MT slicks should get the job done. But it wouldn't be a "cool" car.

Supra roadracer, well I think the earlier comment was about 0-60 times, then the Supra being able to beat a Viper in a drag race. The Supra was a nice car in 96. But 320hp with twin turbo's compared to 330hp M3 with no turbo's, 405hp Vette with no turbo, it's not as impressive now. Does it have serious potential? Probably so, they seem to be very popular to tweak. Doesn't matter what it is, if you're gettin over 500hp or runnin single digit ET's, it's fast and you don't need anyone else to tell you that.

And the Vette was not built to drag race, that's why it's built to run close to 1g on the skidpad. It's a roadracer that just happens to be quicker than most in the 1/4.

Nausty
01-28-2002, 04:49 PM
I think the c5 covettes are so awsome. I just love the way they look, sound and everything. If I were rich that would be the car i would want to have. cherry red:D

heavy_d
06-12-2002, 08:17 PM
87 GNX, I want to get one some day, very quick!:devil I do have a 85 regal though.

veddersbetter
06-13-2002, 03:19 AM
Im just gonna keep my mouth shut
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midwest_z28/files/Badazzz.MPG


:D :blah :devil :macho

motochris
06-13-2002, 04:07 AM
I have a 65 Impala with a 327 that runs 12's on street tires spinning for about 150 feet. She will run low 11's to a 10.90 at or close to sea level. We have no air up here. Its not gutted or cut and is close to 4500 pounds. Street legal drag are where its at!!! I love to eat up them 5.0 stangs. Yep i would feel bad to if i got beat by 4500 pound of real steel in my 5.0,hahaha.

Now to imports. Ok guys just think about this,your with your kids or grandkids telling them racing stories and then little billy ask's what kind of car did you have dad??? Well son i had a honda. They were cool cause i seen it in a movie one time and thought i would get chick's with it. Gee dad you didn't have a 57 chevy or a 70 chevelle SS454 or a big block vette??? No son i wasted my money on something that wouldn't be a classic. Did you get your ***** kicked alot by the muscle cars dad??? Yes son i did, but if it wasn't for them imports being so slow i would have never met your mom. Yes sir she *** packed me good with that old 67 chevelle she had.

Ok i better stop now. No really its what ever you enjoy doing, thats what counts. So who wants to go and beat up on some imports with me??? hahaha

Guy400
06-13-2002, 04:43 AM
Motochris, what do you have in your 327? I've got a 327 right now at about 540hp with all sorts of goodies. No nitrous or supercharger.

Taco
06-13-2002, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Yeah that Supra off The Fast and The Furious is sweet. That car really belongs to the Director of Import Racing bla bla Association(Whatever that is called) He was the consultant on the show to the director to help them out about the car situation and he let them use his car. That car has 600 ponies under the hood with NOS. Could you imagine!!!! That car has won numerous car shows and been in numerous magazines. I read all this on the Fast & Furious website. I liked the Green Eclipse too. I just sold my Eclipse. It looked very sweet like that except it was slow!! I had all the money in the paint,wheels,interior,and sound system. After that movie it made me wish I still had that car!!
This was on the first page I cant believe you all missed this.

06-13-2002, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Juggalo
i wish i could remember the line from the fast and the furious where dominic is talkin about his dads old car but i can't so oh well




Dominic (SP?) ,"I live my life a quarter mile at a time, nothing else maters, for those ten seconds or less, I'm free."


:D I've seen the fast and the furious over 20 times!!!:D

06-13-2002, 09:39 AM
lol, il hav to try and get some pics a the car i want on here (my dads)

Jim300ex
06-13-2002, 09:45 AM
any one notice that the same people that complain about cars like the ones in the fast and the furious, and call them rice burners, are the same guys with their HONDA 300\400ex with all the performace mods, they have the quad version of the car they hate... if they really like muscle cars there would be more interest in a zilla like me!or at least a two fiddy R

06-13-2002, 09:49 AM
lol, u jus insulted R's, not a bright idea on a honda sight

06-13-2002, 10:49 AM
heres my baby, 67 nova SS 350/4 speed black on gold, sorry for ****ty pics, tell me what you think, mine is one of the nicer ones in NH it seems, getting hard to find these not all modified and chopped up.

06-13-2002, 10:54 AM
Slowrida u got my dream car, that thing is bad ***, but bein 17 insurance owuld kill(thats why im gonna hafta wait)

QuadRacer041
06-13-2002, 02:10 PM
that me tell you something moto,
your not going no low 11.'s just with good air my freind.
no way in **** an emisions legal motor is gonna run that.
what your mph when your run these 12 runs, and 12 what exactly?
any time you wanna come down to nj buddy we'll see if you can touch my stang.

06-13-2002, 02:48 PM
my muscle dream car would be a hemmi 426 bigblock
if anyone have pictures please post
i love to see them

JustRace
06-13-2002, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Jim300ex
any one notice that the same people that complain about cars like the ones in the fast and the furious, and call them rice burners, are the same guys with their HONDA 300\400ex with all the performace mods, they have the quad version of the car they hate... if they really like muscle cars there would be more interest in a zilla like me!or at least a two fiddy R

I don't think that really makes sense.

motochris
06-13-2002, 04:37 PM
Hey i pm'ed you. We have NO emisions here. Take care

Moto



Originally posted by quad041

that me tell you something moto,
your not going no low 11.'s just with good air my freind.
no way in **** an emisions legal motor is gonna run that.
what your mph when your run these 12 runs, and 12 what exactly?
any time you wanna come down to nj buddy we'll see if you can touch my stang.

flying400ex
10-28-2002, 08:08 PM
I drove a frineds 95 Grand AM with the 3.1 V6 i thought it would be slow but it was actually quite fast, i was suprised.

Crazy4bluEx
10-28-2002, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Mitch400EX
drop that body kit and graphics and then go for it! I'm not an import fan at all but Supras and RX-7's are nice cars. If I was to buy a really fast car and money wasn't an issue I would get a Hennessy Viper 800. 800 HP, 0-60 in 2.4 seconds, 9 second quarter mile, all the while being street legal! Behind that would be a Mustang cobra R or the new GT40.

I have rode in a hennessy viper... they are BAD ARSE, it said 'venom' on the liscense plate, an it was at big bend open road race in Fort Stockton & Sanderson Texas.. it was cool... the only thing i didnt like about the viper was the way it sounds, it sounds like a RICE burnin V8... but its quick...

*K*

PismoGuy400
10-28-2002, 08:35 PM
This is what he took off of that boat. If you can't tell its twin turbos. I have been with him in his jet boat (olds 455 bb) when he hit a 4 ft wave. We hit it at 68mph, I thought we were going to die. He is banned from two of the lakes in michigan.

yay...do you know what kind of hp the 455 was puttin out when it was still in the car, or just when it was stock.

i want to knowe because my mom just put a 1974 olds. 455 in her 74 firebird, and it hauls a$s.

ChadEXer
10-29-2002, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by flying400ex
I drove a frineds 95 Grand AM with the 3.1 V6 i thought it would be slow but it was actually quite fast, i was suprised.
My wife has a 2002 Grand AM GT with the Ram Air V-6---to be considered a family car, that thing hauls balls!!!

jayz125
11-25-2002, 08:34 PM
not being mean to the hemi guys i was told that hemi were junk and to they were a waste off money. I support the chevy small blocks because they com factory 4 bolt main and u can find anything for them

MxStar826
11-25-2002, 08:52 PM
Here's my 92 Dakota w/ 350 Hp and my sisters 2000 Z28.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p35648f08bd47d5ce6092dc6c495cd856/fd0171f8.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p96e6bf26ec6fc2deeef49e3f89d4bf6c/fd0171f4.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p8ec1eda38d5a540693bf129fe2369691/fd0171ef.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p074c0126b8eb43e86d91a9e920803992/fd0171ea.jpg

quadman
11-25-2002, 09:38 PM
my z28 will beat that once my vortech comes, WANNA RACE!!!!!!!

400exrules
11-25-2002, 09:50 PM
all i can say is......... big and cop magnet :eek: