turbo/nitrous for quads?

[goin2shock]

does anyone make turbo or NO2 for quads?
I have seen juiced crotch rockets
and turboed cruiser
just wondering if anyone knows about these things?
It'd be so cool to have a turbo on a 400EX it'd eat a pred,raptor,DS650,Z-400,KFX700,banshee for lunch!

[1fast400ex]

www.nitrousexpress.com/atvhtml

[goin2shock]

ah i see does anyone have any experiance with using one of these NX kits?....and any turbo for quads?

[1fast400ex]

never fooled with turbos but almost everyone uses nos for dirt drags. major hp in a bottle

[wilkin250r]

I've put nitrous on a quad, but it was NOS, not NX

[Juggalo]

:devil:

[RiPPiNiTuP7]

:eek2:

[goin2shock]

thats nice how much does a set up like that run and where can i get it?

[wilkin250r]

Aren't the turbo setups like $5000?

[Narly R]

Ya its around 5grand, they tested a turbo charged Raptor, and 400ex in Dirt wheels a while back. I think some guy from Portireco (sp) made it, but i could be mistaken. I think Rippinitup posted the pic from the thing in Dirt Wheels. It doubled the horse power of each machine! AMgine doin that then puttin NOS on it!:eek2:

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Narly R
Ya its around 5grand, they tested a turbo charged Raptor, and 400ex in Dirt wheels a while back. I think some guy from Portireco (sp) made it, but i could be mistaken. I think Rippinitup posted the pic from the thing in Dirt Wheels. It doubled the horse power of each machine! AMgine doin that then puttin NOS on it!:eek2:

You would have to retard the timing if you combine the nitrous with turbo, and I'd be afraid to go any higher than 11:1 compression.

[Narly R]

Ya it would be scary and VERY touchy! I bet youd go threw MANY pistons, but IF you cold get it to work it would be cool!:D

[wilkin250r]

Actually, the more I think about it, I think the setup might actually work really well together.

Nitrous is fed in at a constant rate, so at 3500 RPMs you get twice as much per stroke as you do at 7000 RPMs. So nitrous give you a really good boost at low rpms.

Turbo depends on exhaust speed to pressurize your intake, so it really helps out at high RPMs.

Combine them both, and you have ungodly amounts of power everywhere.

[MITrail400EX]

Back in high school auto shop, we built a turbo'd 2.2L Chrysler and put it in an old Dakota body. The turbo would normally have been WAY too big for the application, but with the addition of nitrous, we were able to use it. See, the turbo was actually from a Grand National. We made due with what we had. Everything in the truck was either a donation or fabricated. The truck ran really well for the first 3 quarter mile runs before we bent a rod. Anyways, back on track here,
Nitrous is a great way to get the RPMs up, thus building boost. Plus, nitrous is very cold when it is shot into the intake stream. It can actually provide an intercooling effect to a turbocharged application. You DO NOT want to spray the nitrous into the intake system before the turbo. I know it sounds dumb, and pretty hard to confuse this, but believe me, its been done before. Anyways, keep your compression down to about 9:1 or less because you'll be pressing some MAJOR cylinder pressure with both. The 2.2L we did have 8.5:1 Compression and it was still too much, but we were running close to 20psi with a stock rods and crank. Good luck and send us some pics if you do it!!!:eek2:

[400exBro]

:D :eek:

[wilkin250r]

That's where I have my bottle mounted. Where did you mount the solenoids?

[own2424]

did someone say NOS?

[Glow Plug]

that dune looks a little whooped out.



And back to the thread. that turbo ex put out like 50 hp with just the turbo and not alot of the up grades and it think they were running 11 psi of boost or something? ? not to sure but that turbo raptor they had put out like 70 :eek2:

[400exBro]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
That's where I have my bottle mounted. Where did you mount the solenoids?

that's not mine, it is my buddies, i will ask him the next time i see him....

[own2424]

Originally posted by Glow Plug
that dune looks a little whooped out.

Yea, its a hill at Buttercup.

[KrazyKid300ex]

imagine chad's 505ex turboed and on nitrous? imagine that being the fastest 400ex in the world. or a 465ex turbo/NOS??

DAMN!:devil: :rolleyes: :devil: :devil: :devil:

[RAPTORAZ]

www.kmsturbo.com . Their turbo kit is $2500 and their setup is very clean. I might eventually put one of their kits on my 727.

[DUNEZRUNNER]

How do they oil the turbo though? Do they tap into the engine or what? That seems like it would be the hardest part of doing the whole turbo system

Thomas

[goin2shock]

man turbo and NO2 on a raptor or KFX700 would be sweet even on a DS650 those thing would eat lots of quads...but with that much power u must update the suspension and that have to be a bundle to do all that but it the one of the best quads on earth!

[exrider123]

here is something alot better for the quad then regular nitrous but has the same performance liquid nitrous www.boondockers.com

[MITrail400EX]

I don't get how boondockers can claim to be the first to use liquid nitrous injected before the carbs. It seems to me that companies like NOS have been doing it for years. I remember a sneaky pete system that ran on a 9V radio battery that would inject the nitrous into the air intake tubing. Plus, lots of "cheater" systems inject the nitrous into the air cleaner housing. As far as injecting liquid, I thought that was the point of all nitrous systems was to inject the liquid into the airstream where it was atomized and burned with the added fuel. Isn't that the whole point of purge valves on Nitrous systems is to empty the gas out of the lines before a run? Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think these guys are trying to resell an old idea and claim it as their own. Just my $.02

[goin2shock]

i agree companies like NX NOS and venom have done it for awhile an boondockers make it sound new....maybe new to quads

[Yee-Haw_400EX]

ITS GOT NAWS!!!:p

[Chanman420q]

Originally posted by Yee-Haw_400EX
ITS GOT NAWS!!!:p

nos is in a blue bottle. thats NX ;)

[Yee-Haw_400EX]

Chanman420q, go toke up man. I was just sayin it like all the ricers do. I GOT NAWS, I GOT NAWS, I CAN RUN 10s NOW!!!

Thats not even my 400EX so you don't need to flame me!:cuss:

[Cody_300ex]

Could somebody give me some websites to get the nitrous systems at? Cause im going to put a 10 or 15 shot on my 300ex after i put a pipe and cam on it.

[goin2shock]

www.boondockers.com
www.kmsturbo.com
those are a couple but NX makes one look on the first page for that one!

[goin2shock]

anyone have any experiance with a turbo and N2O?

[wilkin250r]

I've never done turbo, but I've done nitrous on one of my quads...

[MOFO]

Well, I'll give you guys a quick 101 on turbos.... DO NOT run high compression pistons... if you do, call me...I wan to bring my video camera to watch. :eek: A motor that is setup for a turbo is not a standard built 400EX motor.



And with this nitrous craz, why do I see alot of posts asking why thier "piston is burnt to crap within a few rides"

Marty at the quadshop has a turbo on his raptor...all he did was put a pipe on it and I think an airfilter and it almost doubled his HP....:ermm:

I've never rode it and I don't think i want too either...:scary:

Jeff said it will make you retarded if ya crack it wide open...:eek:

[MotoX3]

Originally posted by Chanman420q
nos is in a blue bottle. thats NX ;)

actually nos comes in chrome to...but i think in the latest issue of dirt wheels some guy put a turbo from a car or sumthin on his blaster....

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Rico
Jeff said it will make you retarded if ya crack it wide open...:eek:

ROLFLMAO



Originally posted by MotoX3
i think in the latest issue of dirt wheels some guy put a turbo from a car or sumthin on his blaster

Turbo on a blaster? That doesn't sound right. I don't think two-strokes respond all that well to forced induction...
:huh :confused:

And NOS will come in a brushed aluminum bottle like the picture shows. That particular bottle looks like a 10oz "Sneeky Pete" bottle. I know NOS has one of those bottles in their product line, but I don't think NX does.

[MotoX3]

heres wut the letter says

Dear Dirt Wheels,
This is how you double the horsepower of your blaster for only $20.I went to a junkyard and picked up this TE04H turbocharger for a Caravan 2.5L.Then I bought some stuff at Lowes,welded old exhaust pieces and got everything hooked up and working.There is no waste gate,no blow-off valve and the carb is stock.Who would have thought I could get that boost from a two-stroke?
Tom DeTomaso
Willoughby,OH

Be careful with that,Tom.At 20 pounds of boost,something might blow.
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I was also thinkin that somethin might blow....has anyone on here ever tried puttin a turbo on a 2 stroke?

[ZSK]

I've seen it done, in 4 wheel atv had a guy running a turbo and intercooled 250r, he was running 9's, (the only honda I think could actually do it) I know some banshee hillshooters/drag racers run nitrous and turbos. With a turbo you want to drop the compression, and look into a stronger rod and crank. Ever heard of a ford lightning? F-150 with a supercharger, compression is dropped almost by 1, like 9.5:1 to 8.8:1 or close. They also use alloy rods and cranks to resist bending and breaking.

[wilkin250r]

I would imagine that you would see SOME gains with a turbo on a two-stroke, but not near the performance increase you would see with a four-stroke. I would figure that if you increase the air pressure coming into the cylinder significantly, it would just blow more out the exhaust port during the overlap...

[GOMER007]

http://www.hiper-technology.com/predatorturbo03.htm
:eek:

[NoWingNoPrayer]

on the subject of 2 strokes powergains.. to start they already have a huge powerband just like a turbo does. wich combined sounds like you would need to be harnessed on to the quad or your gonna be sitting on the sand with your arms and quad running away. i couldent imagine being on a banshee with a turbo.

as for it acctually working im thinking the forced induction would cause alot of problems at the reed valves and exauhst pipe.

anyone heard of a Superchared quad??? <---<< gonna mae another 3 pages.

[wilkin250r]

I don't think you can. Superchargers in cars are hooked to the fan belt, and as it turns it forces air more air through the carb at higher pressures than normal atmospheric pressure.

A quad doesn't have a fan belt, and you can't hook it to the chain. There is no place on a quad to drive a supercharger.

[PHIL_B54]

i dont know much, but wouldnt a turbo on a 2 smoke not work well because of port overlap, wouldnt you blow all your good air/fuel out the pipe??

[nakomis0]

My buddy just got nitrious for his piped Z400. Hes gonna run it at Silver lake on labor day. I can't wait to see how it does.

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by PHIL_B54
i dont know much, but wouldnt a turbo on a 2 smoke not work well because of port overlap, wouldnt you blow all your good air/fuel out the pipe??

You'll get some gains, but not nearly as much as a 4-stroke, I think. I could be wrong.

[cheetah]

Originally posted by Rico
Jeff said it will make you retarded if ya crack it wide open...:eek:

So that's what happened.:o

[pnut420]

The main reason for turbos and Nos are for the sand flats and stuff like that, for the money I would rather have a reliable CBR900 motor and put that in a modified frame off a 400ex or LT500, then go from there. Those motors put out around 140hp stock and are meant to run at 15,000 RPMs and be beat day after day.

[*FoX*KiD*]

that turbo is sweet