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micah
06-23-2003, 12:40 PM
I know I am not going to decide my decision on what every one else thinks, but I was going to put about $4k into my quad and get Lt arms, tcs all the way around, Rpm axle, lrd exhaust, and so on.

I know if i do all of this it wont make my Z worth that much more. So i was thinking about just buying a 125 dirt bike and having the quad also.

What would ya guys do? Keep the quad like it is and get a dirt bike, or change everything on the quad with the $4000.

zephead400ex
06-23-2003, 12:44 PM
ledofthezep has a 03 TTR250 bike with about 100 miles on it, pm him and he can get you details if you want.

peace

250EXking
06-23-2003, 12:46 PM
this is what im getting at the end of summer.
my buddy has one and its awsome.

micah
06-23-2003, 01:08 PM
is that bike a 125 or 250? Whats the price tag? From what i have seen the Hondas are the most expensive and the Kawis and Suzukis seem to be the best deals.

gun32boarder
06-23-2003, 01:14 PM
buy mine buy mine lol if you get a frame axle long travel a arms + shocks etc your quad will be worth in the upwards of 10 grand

Glow Plug
06-23-2003, 01:18 PM
put the 4 k into the quad you'll have a sweet arse quad :D :D

WhY_ZeE
06-23-2003, 01:42 PM
I would get a 125 but thats me..Im selling my quad for one so..
I think they are all about the same price or 200 more or less. I think the yamaha's are the expensive...but what does it changes..

hessianmx111
06-23-2003, 01:49 PM
get a yz250f, youll love the bike, i wouldnt put 4k into your quad because that isnt gonna raise your resale another 4k. but if you get the bike youll have another machine to ride tha will hold its price pretty good if you decide to sell it.

sweet300ex
06-23-2003, 01:52 PM
get a CR125, it can be an everyday ride, or a backup incase your quad goes bad

ZRider400
06-23-2003, 01:53 PM
dont waste your money on the Z anymore..... sell it, and get something with a frame that wont bend in half from r unning into another quad at 15 mph.:cool:

400exrules
06-23-2003, 01:54 PM
get the bike

micah
06-23-2003, 01:54 PM
I think a 250 is way to big for me. Im like 5'6'' and 140lbs. Im hoping the seat height of a 125 with the weight of the bike isnt too much for me.

hessianmx111
06-23-2003, 01:55 PM
dont get a cr125. if you get any 125 get a yz. but i would get the yz250f four stroke motox bike. it is the equivalent and more of a 125 two stroke. and it races with them if you didnt know

WhY_ZeE
06-23-2003, 01:56 PM
The 125 is like the highest, somthing like 0,1" higher than a 250, but i think a 250f is higher than a 125...

kabd69667
06-23-2003, 01:56 PM
I'd wait around before you decide whether you wanna drop 4 big ones into the z. It may not be competitive with the yamaha or hopefully that new honda with the oval pistons.

hessianmx111
06-23-2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by micah
I think a 250 is way to big for me. Im like 5'6'' and 140lbs. Im hoping the seat height of a 125 with the weight of the bike isnt too much for me.
its pretty much the exact same specs of a 125. you are plenty big enough for a 250f. it will last longer also

Glow Plug
06-23-2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by micah
I think a 250 is way to big for me. Im like 5'6'' and 140lbs. Im hoping the seat height of a 125 with the weight of the bike isnt too much for me.

if it's to tall for you, you could always run a bit more sag to lower the bike
:D

micah
06-23-2003, 02:03 PM
I think the 250 is too big for me because of the power and the weight. I havent ridden a dirt bike since i sold my xr100 about 7 years ago when i was 14.

So i think going from a xr100 to a 250 would be a bit of a big jump.

Right now i like all the 125 except the YZ. Just dont dig the yamis. The KTM is suppose to be the fastest, and the rm is suppose to be the best handling, and the cr is suppose to be slower but very light and easy to control. Too many choices.

hessianmx111
06-23-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Glow Plug
if it's to tall for you, you could always run a bit more sag to lower the bike
:D
you could also shave a lil seat foam.
i can barely tip toe on my buddies cr125 and im 5'3 but i cant tell it when im ridin the you learn to stop where you can touch easier. you learn to keep momentum up on the hills. but on an mx track you will forget about the size quick cause it doesnt matter, the only time your feet will come off the pegs on a mx track is when you turn but when your turnin you aint gotta reach the ground. the only time when you have to touch ground on a track is when you screw up and get your backend too far out. but it will be easier for you to touch when your rear slides out cause your tilted. so basically get the bike. just not the cr they are the worst engine in a 125

micah
06-23-2003, 02:06 PM
How fast are 125's compared to z's and 400ex's? I was kind of under the impression that an 80 is about the same speed and acceleration as a z or 400ex.

hessianmx111
06-23-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by micah
I think the 250 is too big for me because of the power and the weight. I havent ridden a dirt bike since i sold my xr100 about 7 years ago when i was 14.

So i think going from a xr100 to a 250 would be a bit of a big jump.

Right now i like all the 125 except the YZ. Just dont dig the yamis. The KTM is suppose to be the fastest, and the rm is suppose to be the best handling, and the cr is suppose to be slower but very light and easy to control. Too many choices.
Dont get the cr, get the friggin yz.:mad: :blah: the 250f is the same power of a 125 and it will last longer. dont not get the yz cause its yamaha. unlike in the quad world yamaha are the best all around bikes in the bike world. please listen to me i know what im talking about. i read,transworld motocross,dirt rider,and motocross action every month i know what im talking about.:cool: oh and the ktm125 is no bike for a beginner, they are down right violent when it comes to the powerband

hessianmx111
06-23-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by micah
How fast are 125's compared to z's and 400ex's? I was kind of under the impression that an 80 is about the same speed and acceleration as a z or 400ex.
my friends kfx400 will beat my kx100 by about 3 bike lengths, but my bike will beat a 400ex by a couple bike lengths.

derekhonda
06-23-2003, 02:21 PM
2001 cr 125 for sale here, showroom condition, cheap price tag, where are you located im in indiana.

micah
06-23-2003, 02:27 PM
Im in AZ, kind of far away. What are you asking for it?

With the two strokes how often do they need "new top end", "new bottom end"?

CHAUNCY
06-23-2003, 03:00 PM
Id get a bike. I got a ktm125 and yz125 for sale. PM me if your interested. I think z, ex, and kfx prices will drop alot once yamahas new quad hits the market:confused:

Fast250EX
06-23-2003, 03:45 PM
I wouldn't care to have a dirt bike as sort of an extra thing to mess around with. I wouldn't want anything fast at all. Just a reliable cheap four stroke to mess around with. Are there any four stroke 80's or anything like that. How fast would an XR50 go? It would be a competition thing, more of a "see how stupid I can be on the thing" type deal. Just to play around with and have as a pit bike at the MX races.

hondafox440
06-23-2003, 03:57 PM
Buy the bike. You could easily pick up a nice late model bike for under 4 grand..

hondafox440
06-23-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by micah
Im in AZ, kind of far away. What are you asking for it?

With the two strokes how often do they need "new top end", "new bottom end"?

If you're meticulous and ride hard often, do the top end 2 or 3 times a season. If not, once a year is fine. The bottem end should be fine for 3 or 4 seasons. Do what I do, sell it before it goes.. :D . Just keep up with regular maintenance like filter cleaning and changing the oil and you will be fine.

hondafox440
06-23-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by hessianmx111
just not the cr they are the worst engine in a 125

Its all a matter of opinion, and you obviously just read one of those moto-tabloids. The 03 CR125 made more HP than the YZ250F, yet everyone bragged about the YZF's motor and shunned the CR. The CRs have a huge hit, and thats what I love about them. A bunch of my friends have YZ125s, and they are so boring to ride. The powercurve is like that of a Banshee.


And whoever said they can't get a 250 because it is too high is full of crap. Every manufacturers' 250 is shorter than thier 125..

hessianmx111
06-23-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by hondafox440
And whoever said they can't get a 250 because it is too high is full of crap. Every manufacturers' 250 is shorter than thier 125..
i think it was the guy who started the thread

micah
06-23-2003, 06:01 PM
I said i dont think i could get a 250 because of the power and because i think a 125 would be pushing it in height,,, and if you add the extra weight of the 250 it would be too much for me.

250x#93
06-23-2003, 06:06 PM
this is what im getting at the end of summer.

I know those things are sweet:devil: I wish I had one:o

derekhonda
06-23-2003, 06:14 PM
umm my lowest buck is probably 2400, it went in the paper for 27, have gotten a few calls, dont know why it hasnt sold yet everyother 2001 125 is like 2800-3100 and this thing seriesly is in showroom condition, everything is in prestiene condition.

250EXking
06-24-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by micah
is that bike a 125 or 250? Whats the price tag? From what i have seen the Hondas are the most expensive and the Kawis and Suzukis seem to be the best deals.

im not sure on exact price but i think the ktm 125, correct me if im wrong is around 4599-4800$. somewhere in there. they come right out of the factory race ready almost. good suspension, clearance and power. its a great bike. they are alot better then honda and yamaha's. i think they are thte best bike out there.

micah
06-24-2003, 07:37 AM
is that 4500-4800 on the KTM 125 the msrp or the price that is OTD with cash? Someone else said that is not a good beginner bike,...do you agree with him?

250EXking
06-24-2003, 07:50 AM
i know someone that had never riding bikes before and went out and bought the ktm. i rode it and i thought it was great. easy power to handle but if you wanted to race slap on a pipe and some other extras and that thing has some balls. yeah u could probally walk out the door with one about that price. i dont know you so it is all prefrence. if you have some experience with clutch and bikes and 2 strokes the ktm is a great bike. go to a dealer and take a look at em. they are the best bike on the market. as the dealer if you can test ride one.

twisted threads
06-24-2003, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by micah
I think a 250 is way to big for me. Im like 5'6'' and 140lbs. Im hoping the seat height of a 125 with the weight of the bike isnt too much for me.
I think a bike would be cool to have but in my opinion, a 250 would be better because they are easyier to ride. GOOD luck on either one you get.

CHAUNCY
06-24-2003, 09:34 AM
Hey 250exking or micah I got a 2002 ktm with over 1500 in it and I am letting it go for 3300 shipped probably. If you are interested pm me.

micah
06-24-2003, 12:00 PM
Chauncy, where you located? Is the bike a 250 or 125? Anything that it needs?

Chanman420q
06-24-2003, 12:09 PM
personally, id sell the Z, and get a preditor or the new yamaha.........

The Z knocked out the 400ex, and now the Z is getting knocked out by the preditor and the YFZ.... id even get that new DVS

WhY_ZeE
06-24-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by twisted threads
I think a bike would be cool to have but in my opinion, a 250 would be better because they are easyier to ride. GOOD luck on either one you get.

What do you mean by easyier to ride ? I guess a 125 is much more maniable...it weigh less and got less power and the same height... don't you think?

kxrider
06-25-2003, 03:20 AM
i got my bike for 2 last year, and it is all pimped out, all i did was change the look, so you could get a nice used bike, and then still pimp out your quad a lil , and if anyone says a 250 is easier to ride......... i think wat they mean is they are easier to jump becuase you jump gas it at the base of the jump, but they are def. not easier to 'ride' 125s are lighter and less power so they are easier to control, ,and still haul as$

06-25-2003, 03:24 AM
buy a yz 250f , there not loaded with hp like a 250 but there just as easy to ride as a 250 and your not clutching it all the time

hondafox440
06-25-2003, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by kxrider
i got my bike for 2 last year, and it is all pimped out, all i did was change the look, so you could get a nice used bike, and then still pimp out your quad a lil , and if anyone says a 250 is easier to ride......... i think wat they mean is they are easier to jump becuase you jump gas it at the base of the jump, but they are def. not easier to 'ride' 125s are lighter and less power so they are easier to control, ,and still haul as$

I've ridden plenty of 250s, and this is my 2nd year on this particular 125, and 250s are definitely easier to ride. If you want to go fast or even have fun on a 125, you gotta ride it WFO all the time. The 250s you can lug around and ride them like a 4 stroke to a certain extent.

And that was a KTM125, and the MSRP on them is like 4998$, so it's the cheapest 125 out there, and in most ways the fastest, but the suspension is annoying, and parts for them are more expensive and have a longer wait than the "Big 4". I personally wouldn't suggest it for a beginner because of the explosive hit the bike has, but its up to you.

hessianmx111
06-25-2003, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by hondafox440
And that was a KTM125, and the MSRP on them is like 4998$, so it's the cheapest 125 out there, and in most ways the fastest, but the suspension is annoying, and parts for them are more expensive and have a longer wait than the "Big 4". I personally wouldn't suggest it for a beginner because of the explosive hit the bike has, but its up to you.
thank you, like i said you can find a nice yz250f used for a good price, it is perfect for a beginner who has never ridden a two stroke like a 125, even on my 100 i am always fanning the clutch trying to get it up to speed. but on a 250f you just give it gas point it where you want to go and your there, no fanning of the clutch needed. a ktm is the fastest but there chitty forks and no link rear shock is what kills em

kxrider
06-25-2003, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by freeride132
buy a yz 250f , there not loaded with hp like a 250 but there just as easy to ride as a 250 and your not clutching it all the time

ya 250f is a bad***** bike with less maintenance, ,my friend just got one and that thing has crazy bottom end, but mid and top it is dead even with my 125 we've drag many times and dirt grass, and asphalt, and same results everytime, he takes me on the bottom, then i catch up and we stay dead even, but both have their advantages, ,it all depends on how you gona ride it?

crazybuffalo
06-25-2003, 06:49 PM
id prolly put it into the quad since you cant ride them but one at a time.or you would prolly be able to find a used dirtbike for alot less, and put the rest of the green on the quad.