yfz 450 ride report,

[cody anderson]

did i like it? yeah... of course.shocks are really nice good enough for any amature to race on. i was however really dissapointed with the power of the motor with the stock pipe... it was sad!once we put on a pipe and took off the air box lid and put in a different needle it was way better. it has a bunch of yz technology in it though, yz450 linkage, the gears in the tranny are like 30% stronger i think they said. its nice bike. there was a little bit of bump steer though when i would land in a choppy spot. its really predictable in the air. you really feel confident on it. the sub frame might be a little weak... i dont know. it might hold up too. does it handel as good as an "r"? no. its pretty close though. let me know if you have any questions. see ya.

[Nausty]

When you compare it to a r though are you comparing to a stock, slightly modded or full blown racer? Thanks for the report!

Did you see Kory Ellis's review about it?

[L.Vegas400]

does it feel like you are on top of the world, such as a raptor or ds 650?

[TheRedRebel17]

We saw a little clip of it, and it looked a little nose heavy...is that true?

[Juggalo]

how were the shocks compared to say works? are they dual rates? do they have both compression and rebound adjust? you said it was low on power stock but how do you think it would fair against other stock quads powerwise?

[cody anderson]

i didt read korys reveiw yet, i talk to john pellan the other night and we talked about it a bit. kory and i talk about it at the track but not about what was to be wrote. no its not nose heavy. the shocks are way better than works! comparing them stock to a race quad. im just comparing chassis. power against other stockers... about even, stock.

[Nausty]

do you think a full race 440 or 416 could compete with a yzf with motor mods, shocks, a-arms, axle, ect.

[Sparks425Ex]

What kinda Horser Power is it puttin out stock?

How does the frame look? Are the welds as bad as most other quads....?

What is the retail price on one of those?

[250x#93]

Why's everyone worried bout the yamaha:confused: HAHA
U guys arn't traders are ya:devil:

A big blue POS:bandit:

[MOUSE]

Originally posted by Rico
A big blue POS:bandit:


:cuss:

[OutlawEX]

Originally posted by Nausty
do you think a full race 440 or 416 could compete with a yzf with motor mods, shocks, a-arms, axle, ect.

I highly doubt a 440 or 416ex will hang with the new YZF. But hey i dont know just predicting.

CODY

Do u think the new YZF is right up with the C-dale or more or less power?:confused:

[trueblue450]

wheres korry ellis's report??

give us more info man.. thats mean to leave us hangin..

Power to weight ratio?? would you ride a full race blown r or a race blow yamaha??? what what what??

[trueblue450]

if you compare a 440 engine yamaha.. you have to compare it to a 440 ex. the dam thing better be faster than a stock 400.. :huh

[Merriman]

A couple of questions:

1.) How much more power to you feel the bike has with the intake and exhaust tracks opened up?

2.) Do you feel the motor and tranny would hold up to a;
Novice racer?
Intermediate racer?
Pro racer?

3.) If you had the money to buy any "NEW" quad today would this be your choice?

Thanks

[cody anderson]

NW QUAD IT WOULd be the yamaha, i dont think that a 440ex could touch this is it had all the same stuff done to it. the frame looks good, but just like anything it could be gusseted, i never said it was a pos... i really really like it a lot. its an awsome quad well gotta go i'll talk more tommorow.

[OutlawEX]

Yo how does it compare to the c-dale 440?

[sickmojave]

Originally posted by 300EX_Man
wheres korry ellis's report??


It's right Here (http://********.com/evaluations/yamaha-yfz-6-16-03.htm)

[Merriman]

Originally posted by XANDADA
LMAO! Outclassed again...http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/teufel/devil-smiley-038.gif

Seriously though thats some pretty dissappointing news:(


I don't thinks it's been "Outclassed" I feel it's the best effort made towards a real race quad that the average joe could afford and be competitive on. Every new quad has it's pro's and con's, and if all you have to do is add an exhaust, filter, and re jet then race, that's fantastic. Let me ask this......How many racers run the stock exhaust and filter anyways? I know my grandma has stock exhaust on her 400ex, but she doesn't race that much anymore...

[XANDADA]

I misunderstood, I thought someone was saying that it wouldn't keep up with a stock 400ex with same mods. I erased it.

Eventhough I still feel it is definately outclassed by my 17 year old R that cost me thousands less than that new high tech quad.

[monkeyboy]

pos

wat rico said:ermm:

[Glow Plug]

Sounds like a nice quad but i still don't like it :ermm:

[Ryan]

I want one :blah: .


How do you think it will do for Cross Country racing? Im wondering if the motor is built more for a motocross track?

[Narly R]

You cant realy say u dont like it untill you've ridden it, and you got to give yamaha credit for finally making the 450!!!

[RIjon]

I'll wait a year

[Guy400]

I'm certainly not going to bash except to say that I got burnt by a first year Yammy once already--it isn't happening again. This quad may very well not have any problems with it and I hope that's the case. I'm not going to be the test pilot on a $7000 experiment again.

[400EXrider#91]

i think i'm goona wait for a year or so

[cool 300ex]

How does it compare to a z400 or 400ex?

[Sporttrax400ex]

i dont kn0 but i hope they are good cause im prolly gonna get one but i will tell everyone how good it is next month when my causins shop get mine in..........................

[Scott400EX]

im seriously thinking of defecting to the dark side because of this quad. kory ellis review has mostly all good things to say about the yfz450.

can anyone talk me out of it???!!!

[400exdad]

Originally posted by Scott400EX
im seriously thinking of defecting to the dark side because of this quad. kory ellis review has mostly all good things to say about the yfz450.

can anyone talk me out of it???!!!

I think I can....

2001, 2002, 2003 Raptor

That otta do it!

:D

[bradley300]

Originally posted by Scott400EX


can anyone talk me out of it???!!!

if your asking to be talked out of it, do you really want it? oh yeah, yamaha makes the "bast turd", "worrier" and "craptor" does that talk you out of it?

[bradley300]

oh yeah, and the ever so famous "money pit" (shee)

[cody anderson]

i could go on and on with details of this quad but... you guys are going to have to get the atvsport with it in there... if i told you guys all about it then you would't buy the mag! and what fun is that... good morning chaz, i know your reading this right now... lets go ride at my house this week. talk to you later.

[TheRedRebel17]

Originally posted by cody anderson
... if i told you guys all about it then you would't buy the mag! and what fun is that

I get a subscription..do i get a cookie :p

[RIDER11X]

HYPE!!!!:rolleyes: Is it as good as the 250r? Every new kid on the block is...................until a couple months pass, then.......welllllllllllll it's almost as good:blah: :blah: :blah: .

Don't get me wrong, this is great for our sport, and Yamaha probably did well on this and raised the bar in the process. Hopefully Honda will return the favor soon, to raise the bar again. But, at our local track I still see those old outdated 400ex's winning lots of races against Raptors, and z 400's.

I still don't feel outgunned on my 400, Honda still builds the best quad for me. JMO:)

[cody anderson]

i think an "r" handels a little bit better.

[rdmex]

Originally posted by bradley300
oh yeah, and the ever so famous "money pit" (shee)
Kid, If you new anything about banshee's you would know that if you take care of them, they are %99 maintenece free!

[trx400ex]

Originally posted by rdmex
Kid, If you new anything about banshee's you would know that if you take care of them, they are %99 maintenece free!

I totally agree, ive spent more time fixing my honda than ive spent fixing my banshee.....

[MSL]

You detailed report is to buy the mag and read about it?

When you left to test it you were going on about how you would fill us in.

[NTPRacing#19]

im thinkin about buying this quad and gettin walsh components for it. right now its lookin like the best amatuer quad for the money, no argument about it.

[RIDER11X]

Put Barry Hawk Jr. on it in Pro Production GNCC racing and watch how fast these sell when he puts it on the podium race after race. Yamaha will make more money having him on this quad than on a bike for sure. NO BRAINER :uhoh:

[markeg192]

Cody how fast is it and would it make a good bike for us average riders?

[RIjon]

There is No info in this thread :(

[mx517]

Originally posted by RIjon
There is No info in this thread :(

theres some

[born-to-race]

Could it hold it's own as a stock machine?

[forum]

does it handle better then a 400ex????
if the answer is yes the it handles a hell of alot better then a stock 250r!. Im willing to bet it does handle better then a 400ex too. 250r stock shocks blow goats. don't compare 20,000 race bikes to stockers!. and the subframe is stronger then any other subframe on the market. Its a special type of forming. Yamaha uses it on there Street bikes.

[RIDER11X]

You are right in saying the 400ex does handle better than a 250r, just slightly, but it does.
I don't know but I can't imagine anyone being able to build something to outhandle a Honda with the exception of one of the aftermarket chassis builders. Motorwise, the Yamaha should have a ton of potential, but so does the Raptor :rolleyes: .

[Glow Plug]

Originally posted by forum
and the subframe is stronger then any other subframe on the market. Its a special type of forming. Yamaha uses it on there Street bikes.


Ok it might be the best thnig ever but if it is nearly identical to a street bike subframe then it's not going to hold up that great. You don't see street bikes taking 60 foot doubles all the time do you? And these jumps and stuff is what is going to make or break yamaha's subframe :)

[AZblaster44]

Have you ever seen the frame of a street bike after being crashed at 100+mph? Probably not.....and they are made so they can withsatnd a hard inpact w/ the pavement, so I assume if the sub frame can take flipping a few times on a really hard surface like that at a high speed, something using the same basice design should be able to take casing a 60ft double

note: i have done some exagerating, but it should get my point across....maybe:ermm:

[RIDER11X]

Originally posted by Glow Plug
And these jumps and stuff is what is going to make or break yamaha's subframe :)

:huh How are jumps going to break a subframe? Only if you crash do you normally bend a subframe. ;)

[AZblaster44]

Originally posted by RIDER11X
:huh How are jumps going to break a subframe? Only if you crash do you normally bend a subframe. ;)

Good point:)

[400grl]

I know of a Rappy subframe that got bent from casing a double! :) But to be fair, it had already been a little tweaked from a crash......so......nevermind! ;)

[cjpoole1]

Originally posted by bradley300
if your asking to be talked out of it, do you really want it? oh yeah, yamaha makes the "bast turd", "worrier" and "craptor" does that talk you out of it?
They also make the bikes that Barry Hawk and Chad Reed are kicking arse on.

[markeg192]

This will be a solid bike but I seen a YZ450 powered Arens at a MX track last month and it really didn't seem to outpower the Dales and built EXs by much. It just seems like everytime a new bike comes out it's gonna be the best thing ever and they never live up to the hype.

[KASCHAK]

its guna be like the raptor everyone is going to rush and buy them then thell breake like the tranny in the raprots then everyone will e parting them out and getting hondas again. please dont make the mistake again. honda good yamaha bad

[RIDER11X]

Originally posted by KASCHAK
its guna be like the raptor everyone is going to rush and buy them then thell breake like the tranny in the raprots then everyone will e parting them out and getting hondas again. please dont make the mistake again. honda good yamaha bad

YEP!!!! I agree!!!:D Don't repeat history!

Originally posted by cody anderson does it handel as good as an "r"? no. [/B]

did anyone realy think it would ???:macho

[forum]

i find it funny that ..we finally got what everyone asked for, and now everyone is complaining about it when you got no real proof. Ever since the yzf400 came out people have been dreaming about a quad with it. and even going as far as building there own. Half the people complaining about this this ride 250ex's or scramblers and have no real knowledge of atving.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by forum
i find it funny that ..we finally got what everyone asked for, and now everyone is complaining about it when you got no real proof. Ever since the yzf400 came out people have been dreaming about a quad with it. and even going as far as building there own. Half the people complaining about this this ride 250ex's or scramblers and have no real knowledge of atving.

I agree!

I remember myself doing this awhile back. Like some people are doing it now.

When the Preditor, ltz400, C-dale came out, everyone put them to shame before they even road one. All of us have been asking for these new quads, well, were getting them. Some of us are still complaining though.

Personally, I think the quad is gonna do great! We finally got what we asked for :) .

[OG350]

Originally posted by Ryan
I agree!

I remember myself doing this awhile back. Like some people are doing it now.

When the Preditor, ltz400, C-dale came out, everyone put them to shame before they even road one. All of us have been asking for these new quads, well, were getting them. Some of us are still complaining though.

Personally, I think the quad is gonna do great! We finally got what we asked for :) . I agree also this is all u ever hear when a new quad comes out is just some noob bashing the hell out of it because they read it in a mag or they heard something bad about it from a friend. Just because it's a yamaha doesn't mean it will blow haven't u read about the recall's on the HONDA aquatrax :eek2: :confused2 . Yamaha did a great job on this quad and also they made it very light without useing aluminum.

who wanted it? ...no yammys for me!..never:D

[twisted threads]

Originally posted by "2-R's Rider"
who wanted it? ...no yammys for me!..never:D
Same here!! I didn't ask for no Yamaha I would like a HONDA!! :D

[NTPracing22]

keep your eyes out for a crf450 commin out in the fall. just look for the forward kicker;)

[markeg192]

I was talking with a Honda dealer and he had an Interesting thought on this bike. He felt that the YZ bike wasn't as good as the CR450f bike so Yamaha put it in a Quad. What you guys think?

[born-to-race]

Originally posted by forum
i find it funny that ..we finally got what everyone asked for, and now everyone is complaining about it when you got no real proof. Ever since the yzf400 came out people have been dreaming about a quad with it. and even going as far as building there own. Half the people complaining about this this ride 250ex's or scramblers and have no real knowledge of atving.

No real knowledge of atving eh? Just because your quads not the best thing on the market doesn't mean your dumb. In a ATV Action
I read that Todd Kippenberg (I think) was racing in a stock 4-stroke class with a mohave and smoked tuns of 400ex's (he got first... or second).

[jmoney45]

Originally posted by "2-R's Rider"
who wanted it? ...no yammys for me!..never:D

I wanted it. A new quad that raises the bar is always good for the sport. It keeps other manufacturers building better bikes. I want Honda to come out with something competitive, but I won't wait for them. When I'm ready to buy a new quad if the best is a yamaha, I'll buy it.

[mx517]

Originally posted by jmoney45
I wanted it. A new quad that raises the bar is always good for the sport. It keeps other manufacturers building better bikes. I want Honda to come out with something competitive, but I won't wait for them. When I'm ready to buy a new quad if the best is a yamaha, I'll buy it.

i second that!