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Flyin#3-1/2
06-18-2003, 01:45 PM
Can a Blaster take the holeshot on a drag vs. a 400ex? I didn't think so but my friend claims that his blaster takes the holeshot from 1-4 gear on my friend's modded 400ex. (His blaster is stock too). I think it's complete bullsh*t but then they switched four wheelers and the blaster still got the holeshot. Now I'm just starting to think they BOTH suck at driving a 400ex. Someone let me know what would happen if a stock Blaster dragged a 400ex with silencer and k&n power kit on pavement.

exrider123
06-18-2003, 01:47 PM
a 400ex would destroy a blaster i raced three yesterday and smoked them all

toby400ex
06-18-2003, 01:49 PM
Unless the kid on the 400ex is experienced with a 2-strokes hes not going to be able to get a good start on it, but a 400ex is just hit the gas and shift pretty much.

I-7
06-18-2003, 02:02 PM
I beat people on holeshots with my mojave! So obviously it cant beat a 400ex unless the rider on the 400 really sucks. Its not that the riders on the blasters i beat suck but blasters suck

I-7
06-18-2003, 02:03 PM
whoops sorry didnt read the post all the way. I guess those dumb english teachers taught us one thing..

JUSTINcredible
06-18-2003, 02:15 PM
on a stock blaster i higley doubt it unless the guy on the 400ex has no idea what he is doing.... but with my blaster i have taken 250rs off the line several times

Honda4trax250x
06-18-2003, 02:37 PM
i dont see a blaster beating a 400ex

unless the guy on the 400 sucked

or if they they bored the sh*t out of it

exriderdude
06-18-2003, 02:53 PM
you smell that?.....smells like......bullchit!!!!!!

06-18-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by MNmxblaster37
on a stock blaster i higley doubt it unless the guy on the 400ex has no idea what he is doing.... but with my blaster i have taken 250rs off the line several times Yep.when i had my blaster about 6 months ago all it had to begin with is a fmf fatty pipe,pc 2 silencer,razr 20 inch tires and some other stuff to make it wider and things like that.it took alot of 400ex's and r's off the line with ease being that it was a 2 stroke.but about half way down a 1/8th mile road they flew past me...that was until i got a 240 kit and about 5 thousand more in it:macho

1fast400ex
06-18-2003, 03:20 PM
no way can a stock blaster take a stock 400 much less a modded 400. it takes a highly modded blaster to take a stock one and i mean on alky and 240 all. unless the guy on the 400 has never rode one.

400exrules
06-18-2003, 03:26 PM
blaster beating a 400ex = :huh :huh :huh

flyin#5
06-18-2003, 03:58 PM
it was me on the blaster.... took flip_sideEX off holeshot on a paved road... the only reason is becuase the blasters gearing is so short and you can pump through them quick while the 400 has a wider gear ratio. i took him 1st-3rd then i got it into 4th and saw 400ex roost:rolleyes: :o

quader400
06-18-2003, 04:14 PM
alright we all know theres no way a blaster would not beat a 400. but lets just say it did no one would care anyway cause blaster suck *****. they are too small, have no suspension and they suck. so what im saying is there is no way a stock blaster beat out a 400. period.

flyin#5
06-18-2003, 04:18 PM
well we all know blasters suck. but i took him off holeshot and through 3rd gear! not saying my blaster is faster than a 400 but i telling you what i did.

Honda4trax250x
06-18-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by quader400
alright we all know theres no way a blaster would not beat a 400. but lets just say it did no one would care anyway cause blaster suck *****. they are too small, have no suspension and they suck. so what im saying is there is no way a stock blaster beat out a 400. period.

ya im not too much of a fan of the blaster who cares bout the power it rides like a brick.....a very small one

Narly R
06-18-2003, 04:54 PM
Well my friends 400ex with a Big Gun complete exuast and a couple little things. And a stock blaster kicked his butt 10 out 10 times!!!:eek2: The kid on the 400 was the better rider of the 2!!:eek2: No joke!



















































ha ha got u guys!:D

06-18-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
Can a Blaster take the holeshot on a drag vs. a 400ex? I didn't think so but my friend claims that his blaster takes the holeshot from 1-4 gear on my friend's modded 400ex. (His blaster is stock too). I think it's complete bullsh*t but then they switched four wheelers and the blaster still got the holeshot. Now I'm just starting to think they BOTH suck at driving a 400ex. Someone let me know what would happen if a stock Blaster dragged a 400ex with silencer and k&n power kit on pavement.


my cousins blaster will stay with a piped 400ex til the 400 hits 5th then the 400 is gone, dont underestimate blasters

flyin#5
06-18-2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by freeride132
my cousins blaster will stay with a piped 400ex til the 400 hits 5th then the 400 is gone, dont underestimate blasters

thank you! your exactly right! that is what happend to me

Flyin#3-1/2
06-18-2003, 05:41 PM
mike i'll drag you on dan's 400 and see who wins. i still think there is no way your blaster could beat a 400ex through 3rd gear, maybe holeshot, but not all the way through 3rd. haha, but what do i care? my banshee kicks both of your *****es!!

flyin#5
06-18-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
mike i'll drag you on dan's 400 and see who wins. i still think there is no way your blaster could beat a 400ex through 3rd gear, maybe holeshot, but not all the way through 3rd. haha, but what do i care? my banshee kicks both of your *****es!!

ok well holeshot last a little longer than 1 foot (the distance it takes to get out of 1st:rolleyes: ) and yes your shee will rule all... please resort to title and avator:)

06-18-2003, 05:46 PM
and all stock one wont through 3rd but put a pipe and some reeds in it ud be suprised:eek2:

flyin#5
06-18-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by freeride132
and all stock one wont through 3rd but put a pipe and some reeds in it ud be suprised:eek2:

please read my sig... its not completly stock...

JUSTINcredible
06-18-2003, 05:57 PM
hey flyin#5 wanna race my blaster?:D

flyin#5
06-18-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by MNmxblaster37
hey flyin#5 wanna race my blaster?:D

lmao...yeah ill smoke you like i did neals shee:rolleyes: :devil:

Flyin#3-1/2
06-18-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by flyin#5
lmao...yeah ill smoke you like i did neals shee:rolleyes: :devil:

okay...maybe it's just the fact that i'm in a REALLY sh*tty mood, but i really feel like ripping off your head and beating you with it. you have never smoked my 'shee and you never will as long as you live.:mad:

JUSTINcredible
06-18-2003, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
okay...maybe it's just the fact that i'm in a REALLY sh*tty mood, but i really feel like ripping off your head and beating you with it. you have never smoked my 'shee and you never will as long as you live.:mad:

well thats what happens when you have a bleeding anus:blah:

jk

Nausty
06-18-2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
Can a Blaster take the holeshot on a drag vs. a 400ex? I didn't think so but my friend claims that his blaster takes the holeshot from 1-4 gear on my friend's modded 400ex. (His blaster is stock too). I think it's complete bullsh*t but then they switched four wheelers and the blaster still got the holeshot. Now I'm just starting to think they BOTH suck at driving a 400ex. Someone let me know what would happen if a stock Blaster dragged a 400ex with silencer and k&n power kit on pavement.

400ex would stomp it so bad. I doubt a full on blaster with 240 kit and everything could beat a 400ex. It might have the power at most but it won't have the gears.

QuadJunkies
06-18-2003, 07:53 PM
I never beat a Blaster with mt 400ex.But I did with my 300ex:D .heres one of me this last wk end whoopin this Warrior....In the end I think I beat him by a good 4-5 bike lengths....He told me to come find him later and he would race me with his trike......But he never showed up:huh :o

skemp
06-18-2003, 08:23 PM
Hey flyin, wanna give my 400 a try? ;)

RuffRyder400ex
06-19-2003, 12:05 AM
some kid on my buss thinks the same thing. he thinks a blaster and a bayou 220 will smoke a 400ex in any type pf race.

GETSOME
06-19-2003, 01:06 AM
How about....

Jesus Christ on pogo stick vs. 400EX with pipe vs. Blaster with VForce reeds and graphics kit.:rolleyes:

06-19-2003, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by Nausty
400ex would stomp it so bad. I doubt a full on blaster with 240 kit and everything could beat a 400ex. It might have the power at most but it won't have the gears.


rehhhhr wrong, full race 240 motor will stay with or smoke a stock 250r, u guys are all high and mighty with the ex and r but they only have hp in the high 20s, the blaster puts out around 16-18 stock, no a stock blaster isnt gonna blow a 400ex away but u add a pipe, reed spacer, reeds, and some other stuff it will run with a 400ex til 5th, a 240 blaster i have no doubt will stay right with or pass a piped ex, and the same with a STOCK R


guys 400exs are slow dont u realize that:ermm:

racerx573
06-19-2003, 06:03 AM
The Blaster will smoke anything out there, even my R...:huh

flyin#5
06-19-2003, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by skemp
Hey flyin, wanna give my 400 a try? ;)

lmao! haha.... dont worry i can say "*** whooping" and we should go riding sometime man... hear youve got a nice track.

anyways im just saying what happend. the blaster just has the tight gearing (which gets annoying) so you can get to the powerband faster resulting in faster acceleration... not saying i could whoop a 400ex here cuz i know they will totally smoke me but im saying i took one in the holeshot through 3rd gear. not saying i took it away and actually we were almost neck and neck but still..... didnt know the little blaster had it in itself.

Nausty
06-19-2003, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by freeride132
rehhhhr wrong, full race 240 motor will stay with or smoke a stock 250r, u guys are all high and mighty with the ex and r but they only have hp in the high 20s, the blaster puts out around 16-18 stock, no a stock blaster isnt gonna blow a 400ex away but u add a pipe, reed spacer, reeds, and some other stuff it will run with a 400ex til 5th, a 240 blaster i have no doubt will stay right with or pass a piped ex, and the same with a STOCK R


guys 400exs are slow dont u realize that:ermm:

well to bad I got a friend with a 240kit and it is still quite like I said. I had a blaster and no way to they put out 18hp stock and if they did a 400ex on the same dyno would put out around 30. Still even if you can get it to have around 30hp or around there the 400ex still has better gear ratios, more torque and a wider powerband. Not to mention if you go anywhere where it doesn't involve strait line drag racing the 400ex would still smoke it because it handles way better. Also if the drag race is that long the 400ex will smoke it again as it starts to reach the 50mph mark.

trueblue450
06-19-2003, 08:44 AM
my stock 300 puts out 38.32hp..:confused2

sickmojave
06-19-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by RuffRyder400ex
some kid on my buss thinks the same thing. he thinks a blaster and a bayou 220 will smoke a 400ex in any type pf race.


Was this a short yellow bus.:D

Ryan
06-19-2003, 09:50 AM
Im confused?


Since I own a Blaster, im gonna put my 2 cents in.

As far as who can take off the line the fastest..... Alot of that has to do with reaction times, spinning the tires.... Ect.

With my modifications in my sig, I havn't been able to beat a 400ex in a drag race. Its actually pretty close though.

Alot of you underestimate Blasters. You can really build there motors to RIP! If you build anything up it will rip!

A fully built 240cc Blaster could leave a stock 400ex in the dust, no problem! It can even take a stock 250r. But then again, add a few mods to the 400ex (or 250r), and its right up there with the Blaster.

Flyin#3-1/2
06-19-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by flyin#5
please read my sig... its not completly stock...

mike you are so incrediably stupid...taking off your end cap does not count as a mod!!!!:mad: and a pro-lite piston and uni-filter doesn't really make a difference.:ermm:

cool 300ex
06-19-2003, 09:58 AM
Ya the 400ex will beat a blaster unless the rider relly sucks.Just like the other day i drag raced my friend he was on his 300ex and i was on my z we both have pretty the same mods.WEll any ways i was in the grass part he was in the dirt broke in trail part of the feild.All i did was spin out of the whole because my tires are blad.So thats why he beat me.

Flyin#3-1/2
06-19-2003, 10:00 AM
and i never want to hear you say that you "beat" my banshee, it has never happened, and it never will happen. in every single drag of ours, i have beaten you holeshot and in the end. no competetion there.:D

flyin#5
06-19-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
mike you are so incrediably stupid...taking off your end cap does not count as a mod!!!!:mad: and a pro-lite piston and uni-filter doesn't really make a difference.:ermm:

well it makes a small difference.... but not big... but im mostly talking about the holeshots they are alot smaller and not ballooned like the stock tires so they give it alot more acceleration.

flyin#5
06-19-2003, 10:05 AM
and for the banshee drag thing.... hence the ----->:rolleyes:

Flyin#3-1/2
06-19-2003, 10:13 AM
k...you better be joking about the banshee thing, otherwise you would be officially mentally challenged and the world's biggest flamer :D lol. yea, but darren figured out a reason why you might've beaten danny of the holeshot. think about the whole power to weight ratio thing. your blaster and you weigh A LOT less than danny and his 400ex. Also you and Danny are not used to dragging with a four-stroke so you could be going through the gears too fast or too slow. Now if Darren dragged you with his 400 you would get your ***** handed to you.

flyin#5
06-19-2003, 10:14 AM
yeah i thought that was why he was asking all those questions:ermm:

Flyin#3-1/2
06-19-2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by flyin#5
yeah i thought that was why he was asking all those questions:ermm:

yep, and we also figured out that you and danny are both used to 2-strokes with 6 gears so you go through the gears way too fast and don't exploit the real power of a modded 400ex. give danny a little time dragging me on my 'shee and he'll be ready to WASTE your little blaster:D

z400rider23
06-19-2003, 11:20 AM
I think whats funnier than a Blaster beating a 400ex in a drag race is a Blaster beating a 250r.........:rolleyes:

06-19-2003, 11:22 AM
a full race 240....not a stocker, and the 400ex has more hp than the 250r stock for stock

Glow Plug
06-19-2003, 11:30 AM
yeah but if you did put the same amount of money into the blaster and 400ex or r whatever there blaster will get killed. And if you have that full 240 kit wouldn't it be fair to bore the 400ex out the 440???

JUSTINcredible
06-19-2003, 12:16 PM
when i have raced at smaller fair races and my class got dropped with the pro quads ( who arnt really pro) i could take half thos guys off the line... blasters arnt as slow as a lot of u guys seem to think

250EXstud
06-19-2003, 02:51 PM
I have a 250EX and its slow and i smoke blasters off the line everytime. They seem to barely catch me at the end though.

06-19-2003, 03:23 PM
then they suck

speedy400
06-19-2003, 04:21 PM
yeah here is the bare numbers, I calculated, danny and his 400ex=.055 hp per lb, mike and his blaster- about .046. and bolth on tar, it had to be that he is just so used to his blaster(danny used to own a modded blaster)-darren

Flyin#3-1/2
06-19-2003, 04:25 PM
also remember that danny weighs a lot more than mike and the 400 weighs a lot more than the little blaster.

Chanman420q
06-19-2003, 04:38 PM
blasters blow......... i had mine it was great to tool around on..... but the suspention sucked.. the power was okay for a 200cc air cooled 2 stroke.. cant expect a lot of power from it, but it does alright. handles okay with a longer axle. oh what the hell i hated it

I-7
06-19-2003, 04:42 PM
lol

06-19-2003, 04:44 PM
they handle so bad u cant take a advantage of 1/4 of the motor

Flyin#3-1/2
06-19-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Chanman420q
blasters blow......... i had mine it was great to tool around on..... but the suspention sucked.. the power was okay for a 200cc air cooled 2 stroke.. cant expect a lot of power from it, but it does alright. handles okay with a longer axle. oh what the hell i hated it

exactly :devil:

my friend has a '94...horrible suspension....every tiny bump you hit it feels like you hit a huge rock....on my 'shee it's a real smooth ride.....and the brakes on the thing seems like there are none compared to the dual hydrualic in the front on my 'shee and hydraulic on the rear....i would never buy a four wheeler that didn't have hydraulic brakes....i'm going way to fast to be able to stop with just regular disc brakes :( :( but blasters really do suck overall :devil:

Flyin#3-1/2
06-20-2003, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by freeride132
they handle so bad u cant take a advantage of 1/4 of the motor

yea i know what you mean:ermm: