my nightmare at the jack frost h/s

[QuadRacer041]

i was havin a great time and was doing good until lap#4 when my spidle shaft broke right off.......:grr: :eek:
then the nightmare began, lol
i say my freind go by so he knew i was out the there, then i say j hughes(sp?) he stopped to say high while i was in distress,:D
he was kind enough to introdose himself and then take off,,,,,j/k
i wound up walkin for over an hour to get back...all up hill mind you.then it took about another hour to get my bike back cause i had to wait for the bikes to finish


here are some pics

[QuadRacer041]

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[Pappy]

ouch:( so ya did a xc nature walk uh:confused:

[QuadRacer041]

this is what racer101 left me at the trailer when i got back

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by Pappy
ouch:( so ya did a xc nature walk uh:confused:



yea and i NEVER wanna do it again

[cdalejef]

Thats the 3rd one I've seen break there:(

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Thats the 3rd one I've seen break there:(

really, its sucked man,
u think i should replace with th e same spindles or should i upgrade to 400ex spindles and calipers?
any idea on the price to do that?

any info would be apprecieated(sp?)

[cdalejef]

NO....400ex spindles would be a down grade. They are cast alum and will break even worse!

[400exrider400ex]

my dad just about killed my 250x today at jack frost...bent frame, bent handle bars and who knows what else :eek2:

[Glow Plug]

:eek: hope you get it all fixed :)

[jlhughes750]

not to mention the geometry difference on the location of the steering flags on the spindle, in relation to the flag on the stem. it can be done but u will notice a difference in handling. unless u change the stem then it will work a little better.

later, J
he!! what do i know??????????

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by jlhughes750
not to mention the geometry difference on the location of the steering flags on the spindle, in relation to the flag on the stem. it can be done but u will notice a difference in handling. unless u change the stem then it will work a little better.

later, J
he!! what do i know??????????


i thought that was a very popular thing to do esspecially with mx, i thought that roll ran all the mx and xc bikes that way, not true????????:confused:
i know racer101 has 400ex spindles on both his arens xc 250r and his roll mx 250r, he says it works fine.....
anyone else ever hear of doing this?

[cdalejef]

I guess they run them in MX because they are lighter. I know I wouldn't touch them after seeing a bunch of broken ones. They are alot cheaper.

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
I guess they run them in MX because they are lighter. I know I wouldn't touch them after seeing a bunch of broken ones. They are alot cheaper.

yea i think thats why they use for weight purposes, but thanks for the info jeff, ill stick with the stock r set up then.

[jlhughes750]

u r correct they do us EX spindles on Roll's frt. end. BUTT!!!!!!!
they take that into consideration when they design the arms so that the caster is correct (correct in there opinion at least). The arm angle on the R and EX frames are different by a few degree's so it is impossible to retain the proper caster when swapping spindles unless u change the a-arms, like ROLL and Houser did.

Basically if u take a stk R and put EX spidles, brakes, and hubs on. Then measure the caster, the REAL caster, the right way!!!, it will be different now!!! the difference in degrees is small, i'll just say its in the single didit range. but it will change the way it steers, maybe not so noticable for mx but in the tight woods its a little different. check some pics out of the arms on Ballance or Smileys quads, they got it all figured out, a few degrees can make the difference between #1 and #2 where some people might not notice!!

later, J

[cdalejef]

Exactly, its like putting 400ex arms on a 300ex. It works but doesn't handle very well!

Man you had to be at the worst spot on the track " at the bottom of the Mountian:D Thank god for 4x4 ATV's:rolleyes: