416 kit what you think?

[Martin Blair]

Heres is my idea for a 416 kit what do you think good? bad? thanks for the info.

Heres what im thinking.

get the sparks bore for 60, piston for 120, and a hot cams stage 1for 160 and get it ported buy lrd for 275 that is 416 for 615.

sound good?

[Martin Blair]

Also how are the kits in www.lrdracing.com

is the stage 2 kit for the 400 it include a 425 bore piston pro x coated 11.1 compresion web cam and gasket kit, for 488 i dunno if that includes install or bore.

[hotex]

All your power at the bottom of the rev range, I'd go with a Stage 2. Big bores benefit the most from the Stage 2.

Tony

[wgbanks]

The have a seperate section for labor look under the "Services" link. $50.00 for a bore.

[Silverfox@C&DRacing]

I would get a JE or Ross 10.8:1 piston kit $120, take it to the machine shop $46-$100 + depending on where you are at.. Hot cams stg 2 $126, gaskets $20-$40. You will have a 416 kit in the price range of $280-$330 depending on other little things like valve seals, exhaust gaskets and so forth.

where did u c the JE piston kit for $120

[Silverfox@C&DRacing]

HMMMMMMMMMM.. That is what we sell them for

sweet im gettin 1 from u then :D ;)

ur site isnt fully functional i am guessing seeing ur JE piston section says unfound

[Martin Blair]

hmm my i kniow agood machine shop but i would rather send it out to sparks someone i can trust and know that works on smaller motors. Je pisotn kit for 120 gaskets and bored buy sparks and lrd proting, still around 600 i want it done buy someone i can trust so its reliable and i want a small bore for xc racing.

[RED121572]

Sounds like a killer combo there hoss!:D

Heres my 2cts though...:devil: .....

When getting the piston, go for a really high compression piston. 11.1 or higher. Unless of course race gas is no where to be found in your area. :eek:

[Martin Blair]

race gas is 30 minute drive form here and i dont want to pay 5 bucks a gallon.

[JD400exrider]

Originally posted by XxHonda_RacerxX
where did u c the JE piston kit for $120


See how you are xx you did not look at the blinking sign at the top of the page. :devil:

no i did...the site isnt working or somethin so i cant c the price

[jcv400ex]

Originally posted by HN400exracer
hmm my i kniow agood machine shop but i would rather send it out to sparks someone i can trust and know that works on smaller motors. Je pisotn kit for 120 gaskets and bored buy sparks and lrd proting, still around 600 i want it done buy someone i can trust so its reliable and i want a small bore for xc racing.

Why send a motor to Sparks for just boring out the cylinder????? Do you realize how much that will cost?
Buy all the parts, tear it apart yourself, just send the head to someone(anyone will do a good job) with the new valve guides out of the COMPLETE gasket set(I highly recommend the complete kit for $53 by Athena), have someone bore the cylinder for you and gap the rings, and put it all together. Even with the port job, you'll be around $800 alltogether doing it yourself. Or, you'll be at around $1250 if you have someone else do it. I'd go with the Stage II Hotcam also. Do you have a aftermarket exhaust? IF you do not, then do not have the porting done. It won't do you a bit of good, get a pipe instead.

[pnut420]

Go stage 2 no matter what, you will waste your money otherwise, stage 1 is weak. Also go 11:1 for sure, and as far as porting, I saw a 416 that was ported and had a huge cam, etc... He just used a dremel, gring down the welds in the headpipe, and gut your silencer, he even had the spark arrestor on it still, was whooping piped raptors bad.

[Martin Blair]

ok stage 2 it is i will see about local machine shops, im nto ahvign sparks build the motor just bore it i can instal the piston and reassemble the top end my slef me and my dad have rebuilt alot of honda motorcyles (street bikes) i just need someone to bore it out maybe i can take to some local shops, i can get proting from lrd for 275 je 10.8:1 piston kit for 120 from c&d cometics gasket kit for 40 and a hot cams stage 2 for 109 plus whatever the shop charges for boring that only arround 60 still.

[Martin Blair]

i have a lrd full systme why would i gut my stock and go bakc to it??

[pnut420]

Originally posted by HN400exracer
i have a lrd full systme why would i gut my stock and go bakc to it??

My bad, I didnt see your sig, well then with the stage 2 cam and 10.8 piston you should be good to go.

[jcv400ex]

$53 sounds cheap for gaskets. Is that a full set? Every time you do a rebuild, it's a good idea to change the valve seals. A complete gasket kit is the way to go. Then you'll have them all. Sooner or later your going to change the clutch and what have ya, so you'll already have the gasket. And the kit also includes new exhaust gaskets. I think it's just a good thing to have around.