Banning of ATV's, yes it is true

[tprender]

I see that no one has posted anything on this. The CPSC will be meeting on June 5th to talk about the safety of ATV's. The last time that they meet and talked about ATV's was in 86 and 87 and this is when we got all of the age rules for riders under 16 and the banning of 3-wheelers. Some of the things that they are thinking about is placing a limit of 399cc and under for large ATV's, no one under 16 can ride an ATV, and limits on top speed. One of the things that the anti groups are bringing up is the injury rate has increased in the past few years. There is a petition that the ATVA has made up. Go to there website; ATVAonline.com and down load it and get your friends to sign it this weekend and send it in.
If you care about the future of ATV riding and racing please download the petition and get some of your friends to sign it and send it in.

[infantry317]

been there done that! sent mine off already and brought a bunch to the club.

[Chef]

Are they even banning large atv's from racing, as well?

[300EX_HMF]

it isnt gona matter what they do!! look at these young people riding 4-wheelers that say "no one under 16" there is gona be a way still to ride 4-wheelers i think.

[tprender]

We don't know what they are going to do. They could say that none could be sold by the dealers, those that have been sold maybe they buy back, or ? One of the things that they don't like is the idea of little kids being about to ride large ATV's. Like when the feet can't reach the footpegs. The ban in '88 killed youth racing.
When you go to your riding area are you checked for age? The CPSC has the power to make them check in all of the USA.

[markeg192]

Things aren't looking good for our sport is it? Let's be honest though, We have all seen stupid people doing things that make us all look bad. I am always amazes how someone will turn a kid loose on a 600lb Polaris at a riding area.

[300exHILLER]

F The CPSC F'n Tree huggers <----------VENT

Sorry but It gets under my skin with these people I can't even ride in my state without the cops getting called. and now this BULL$H*T about limiting to 399CCs taking away from my Racing which is about time I can ride :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[400grl]

Well - apparently they are taking the stance that if the parents can't regulate their kids and make rational safety decisions for their own families, then someone has to.

Can't say as this totally suprises me - the more I ride the more often I see exactly that - little kids that have no business what so ever riding a quad that big - usually with tennies on and no helmet, too. That's the main reason I choose not to go to one of my local tracks anymore - they don't enforce any safety rules whatsoever.

I'll fill that form out - I don't plan on giving up something I love so much...........

[Ryan]

This is the latest word from http://www.********.com ...

All-Terrain Vehicle Association to Defend ATVs at Hearing

The All-Terrain Vehicle Association (ATVA) and the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) will testify before federal officials on June 5, promoting rider training as an important component in ATV safety.

The Consumer Product Safety Commission will hold a public hearing on ATV safety at 10 a.m. on June 5 in the Robert C. Byrd Health Science Center of West Virginia University in Morgantown, W.Va. The hearing could be the first step toward more federal regulation of ATVs.

Doug Morris, director of the ATVA, and Royce Wood, legislative affairs specialist for both the ATVA and the AMA, will argue that there is no need for further regulation. Both organizations support increased training opportunities for ATV riders to educate them about proper riding gear, teach them safe riding techniques, and improve their riding skills. The organizations also support the creation of more controlled public riding areas for ATVs to help reduce the risk of injury.

The associations have opposed proposals to impose further limits on ATV engine sizes, noting that existing guidelines which set machine size limits for riders under 16, actually impede safety training. That's because the federal guidelines call for those under 16 to ride ATVs with engines no larger than 90cc. As a result, most young people who are judged too large to safely ride such small machines aren't able to take a safety training course.

Besides taking testimony on ATV safety, the Consumer Product Safety Commission will listen to comments on a proposal by a coalition of groups made up of the Consumer Federation of America, the Natural Trails and Waters Coalition, the Bluewater Network and others seeking a ban on the sale of full-sized ATVs for use by children under 16. The coalition originally called for a ban on all ATV use by those under the age of 16 but the commission said that it could not enforce such a ban.

Morris questioned the motivation behind some of the groups involved in this attack on ATVs, noting that the Natural Trails and Waters Coalition and the Bluewater Network have never had any involvement with, or interest in, ATV safety. Instead, their agenda has been to block access to public lands by ATV riders and others involved in motorized recreation.

[lshonda310]

they will have to pry my cold dead fingers off my twist throttle

[Ryan]

I personally think the sport has gone way to far for any banning to occur. But that doesn't mean the CPS will go after something else to change or ban :ermm: . And if they can't get our atv's, they will try to get our riding area's.


BTW, I already mailed my slip to the ATVA.

[flyin#5]

please it will never happen! im telling you there are way to many people that profit from atv's than tree huggers. around here it seems everyone has somekind of quad. and whoever said this sport has gotten to big to ban is 100% right. strength is in numbers and those people with utility quads (alot of them) count too so we have plenty of numbers!

[Narly R]

This just make me mad! Why cant these retards see that most of us are smart and dont ride like idiots! If I could just meet one of these people on the trail.....................:grr:




I dont think we have much to worry about though!?:ermm:

[speedy400]

Originally posted by Narly R
This just make me mad! Why cant these retards see that most of us are smart and dont ride like idiots! If I could just meet one of these people on the trail.....................:grr:

I agree totally...


I dont think we have much to worry about though!?:ermm:
I agree totally...-darren

[forum]

Originally posted by flyin#5
please it will never happen! im telling you there are way to many people that profit from atv's than tree huggers. around here it seems everyone has somekind of quad. and whoever said this sport has gotten to big to ban is 100% right. strength is in numbers and those people with utility quads (alot of them) count too so we have plenty of numbers!

Yea alot of people said the same thing when the ban on three wheelers was closing in. And what happend?? Whatever the end result is it wont be good. cc limit, total ban, ect. Everyone send in a petition!. and start makin a scene. email, mail and show up at there doorsteps! we need all the suport we can get

[Bart]

Just sent my petitions in. Hope they arrive in time to help.

Not sure if it would do any good to let the CPSC know our thoughts directly or not...

http://www.cpsc.gov/

[quadman21]

I believe anything is possible unfortuneatly. I don't want to see our sport get stunted just as it's starting to take off like in the late 80's. Just go over to the Trail Tales section of the forums. Look at all the stories of running from the cops because of tresspassing and being proud of it while bragging about it. That's what is holding our sport back. People making the wrong desicions.

[wilkin250r]

I call it "Legislating Stupidity" A piece of paper isn't going to stop a parent from putting his kid on a quad that's too big. Unfortunatly, you can't pass a law that makes people smarter and keeps them from doing stupid things. All it does is hurt those people that DO follow the law. Just like gun laws, they don't keep guns out of the kids hands, it just makes it harder for decent, responsible people to get one.

[cheetah]

I'm with everyone 100% on this thread, but let's face it guys. The majority of our sport is the idiots. We here on this board represent a small portion of atv riders. I wear all my safety gear everytime I go ride just like many others here and I have more pride than to sue someone over a stupid mistake I made on their property. To my main point though, I don't ride large riding areas, but I do ride local trails. In all my riding I have NEVER met another person on a trail wearing a helmet or boots or anything. I then watch them a couple minutes later try to blast off up a cliff only to have it flip and tumble back down. It's these people that give our sport a bad rep and unfortunately we are outnumbered by them as well. I can't count how many "badasses":rolleyes: i've met that always have a hundred running from the cops stories to tell. I'm sure as hell not a treehugger and never will be, but this is the way the majority of people see our sport. One final example, the other day someone came to my house on a campaign route and I was out riding. She told me she sees fourwheelers everyday ride around her area and she said I was the first person she has ever seen wearing safety gear. Now what kind of statement does that make? This is how the people see our sport and the only way to change this is to get these "idiots" some common sense. And if that's what you have to do, it may be easier banning quads.

[Bart]

cheetah/Kevin,

How can you say that you are with "us" 100% and then say it's OK to ban the sale of quads?

The last time I checked, this is still the United States of America. A country founded on the principle of individual freedom. We should be free to purchase a quad and ride it (legally) as long as manufacturers want to produce them. If one chooses to ride a quad in an unsafe manner, they should be free to suffer the consequences. Chances are, they will only be hurting themselves.

The Consumer Product Safety Commission (or CPSC) is not concerned about "safety". They are a liberal organization (note that the Natural Trails and Waters Coalition and the Bluewater Network support them) that is only interested in taking away our freedom.

[bmw500hp]

[i].Morris questioned the motivation behind some of the groups involved in this attack on ATVs, noting that the Natural Trails and Waters Coalition and the Bluewater Network have never had any involvement with, or interest in, ATV safety. Instead, their agenda has been to block access to public lands by ATV riders and others involved in motorized recreation. [/B]

Well gentlemen, lets just call this year the year of the Clinton aftermath, too much Heraldo Rivera, false political concessions, fake empathy and the beginning of significant loss of our many of our Civil Rights.

The ATV political agenda in regard to the use of public land is far more dedicated to the long range of polical or corporate profiteering than a genuine concern for your broken femur.

Don't get me wrong, I am all about riding! Your tax dollars maintain that land, maybe if your lucky in a few years you will still be able to walk 25 to 40 miles into it and enjoy....yeah right... :grr: real sorry for the soapbox...it seems when you really like something, someone always comes and tries to take it away!