works shocks help

[bman's 02 300ex]

i just got my works shocks for me 250r a-arms on my 300 thay are WAY to stiff. even for me on the track the only time i loved them was on the woops the cornering was terable it don't handle the way it did stock i can hit jumps wide open but what good is that.if can't corner? is there any way to soften them up?with that valve on the ress.? i am realy thinking about putting the stockers back on it is that bad.thay are for a banshee but they are 14 1/2 in. long so is that not the right lenth or is it just the banshee angle is to diff.? any feedback is greatly appreciated.

[AtvMxRider]

You need to get them revalved.

[cdalejef]

The problem is not the shocks, it the geometry (SP) The 300 steering stem is located in a different spot where it mounts to the frame than it is on a 400/250R. Yes, everything will bolt up but this is not the correct way to do it.
We are in the process of building Dave Macarroll (sport class champ) a new 300 using 300ex LSR +2 arms and 400ex Elka shocks with a bolt on upper shock mount. This will keep the geometry (SP) were it is supposed to be.

[bman's 02 300ex]

so you think that i should get the shock mount ?or get them revalved? or both? or go back to stock shocks,a-arms? thanks for the info!!!!

[465Stroker]

I would put it back to stock. I have not seen a 250R or 400EX A-arms setup on a 300EX yet that works correctly. There are three major variables for the 250R, 400EX and 300EX that are different: A-arm ball joint angles, Steering stem locations on the frame and tie-rod plate configurations (Height of plate, distance from the center of stem to tie-rods holes, distance between left and right tie-rod holes, angle), and finally the spindles on all three models are different. When you start mixing these parts up depending on what parts you use, you will get a very darty quad or a quad that hardly turns - this is the most noticable.

I know several memebers have similar setups and I am not telling you that it will not work - because it does to an extent. I have just not seen a 300EX yet with this setup that will work better with this setup than a 300EX with aftermarket +2" 300EX A-arms & shocks..

[300exOH]

Here's one that works very well. It is just a little darty but you get used to it pretty quick. I like it much better than stock. My shocks ended up 14.75"

[bman's 02 300ex]

Originally posted by 300exOH
Here's one that works very well. It is just a little darty but you get used to it pretty quick. I like it much better than stock. My shocks ended up 14.75"

i have only had it on thr track twice since i did this. i can't hold it open all the way through the turns like i did with the front rims fliped.can anyone tell me if i can use the shock relocation mount with 14 1/2 in shocks. i got to have this problem fixed by 6/1 race.

[cdalejef]

what relocation mounts are you talking about?

[RIDER11X]

How did you describe your riding when you called to order your shocks? Did you say A class or something like that?:)

[cdalejef]

Say the level that you actually are, don't say your an A rider if you really a B rider. I think alot of people do this and then complain they are too stiff.

[lil400exman]

hey you guys he said they were banshee shocks and a banshee weighs alot more than a 300ex man.............and ur probably light so get them revalved for the weight of ur machine and you.............................;) BUT BANSHEE SHOCKS!??!?:eek: :eek2: now wonder there so stiff ppl..............

[300exOH]

I just told him that I trail ride. I'm not a big jumper but I've done small leaps and it felt great to me. It also seems to corner better than before. I've never felt that I was able to pin it through the corners.

[lil400exman]

dude he put banshee shocks on his 300ex you ppl dont see that? no wonder there so stiff...................:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[bman's 02 300ex]

i work at a dealer so i got them though parts unlimited but i got on here and ask how long thay had to be to do the a-arm conversion. and then went to work and found the right lenth on a banshee and a friend told me that i wanted stiffer then my weight for MX. so i got the MX,aggressive,recreational the listing was.so that was what i ordered now i got the bushings milled down to fit in the frame.and a set of shocks that i hate.MY NEXT QUESTION IS do thay brake in after more use and maybe soften up some.or should i buy the shock relocation mount for the 400ex shocks on a 300ex

[300exOH]

Your problem is not the shock length but in the valving. I ordered mine directly from Works and had them set up for my weight and riding style. Banshee shocks would be stiff on a 300 because a banshee weighs like 100lbs. more. I'd send them to works to be revalved. Otherwise even your stock 300 shocks will do better.

[bman's 02 300ex]

THANKS GUYS FOR THE INFO... now i just went too get the stockers out and can't find one of the lower bushings. this whole project has been!@#$%^&*().lol