back surgery

[Pappy]

ok...most people that know me here know i have a bad back. its been killing me lately ...to the point my knees go numb:( i have to go see my doctor soon and he is gonna tell me the same thing he always does...operate:mad: everyone ive known that has had back surgery has told me not to do it until i cant walk...im damn near there:ermm:

anyone ever had a disc replaced or fixed:confused: i have 3 disc's in my lower back that are bad.....they want to go in and replace something and remove something else:confused: i have no clue what all it entails......kinda scares the puddin outta me:(

[Doibugu2]

That sucks dude, but keep a good attitude. Found this little quote that might help.

"the pessimist complains about the wind:the optimist expects the wind to change:the realist adjusts the sails"
:D

[NJ300ex]

My dad had an operation on a herniated disc in his back probably two years ago. They cut nerve out and shaved away some of the disc. He is still not fully recovered and I believe he gets pains in his back still occasionally after strenuous work. If you do get the operation expect up to three years to be fully recovered, if you do fully recover. Also the first 6 months are the worst. You have to stand up or lay down all the time. Very little sitting if it is even possible with the pain.

All this recovery time also depends on how you take care of yourself after the operation and how fast of a healer you are. It can be totally different for everyone. Some people can be fine in a year and others may never be the same.

Hope I helped,
Mike

[RiPPiNiTuP7]

I fractured a few discs in my back back in Setember while I was out jumping my 400ex...since then they healed (thank god), but I feel your pain man...not sure if surgery is the way to go or not...either way I wish ya good luck.

[anywhereEx]

Kenny are they planning on fusing any vertabre together? Look at the bright side of it. With the way science and medicin is today you will be back on your feet before to long.

Could be as bad as my ol man. Tore his back up real bad working on a crane and had to get 5 vertabre fused together. That was in 85 and he is still workin his arse off 7 days a week.

Oh and you'll definitly get some good meds:D

[Ben]

Don't get addicted to Oxycontin for the pain Kenny - I'd have to drive up there and smack some sense into you :blah I don't want to see drug stores in the Washington D.C. and Baltimore metro areas being held up by a guy on a trick 400ex :blah I'll know it is you! :bandit:

[Pappy]

lol...i chew percocet like chiclets now:ermm:

i dont know what they want to do to my back...ill be going for test i reckon:ermm:

[Ben]

Originally posted by Pappy
lol...i chew percocet like chiclets now:ermm:

:eek: If I knew that I wouldn't have bought you those beers in LaVale, they could have impaired your driving ability with the drugs! :blah lmfao j/k :D

[Pappy]

lol...some nights its 2 percocets chased with a beer:confused2 you can usually yell because i miss spell half my words...lmfao

[Quad18star]

My old man had back surgery back in 1986 i think it was . He has his good days and his bad days . He said it was worth it because of all the pain he went through . He still does the normal things in life but just has to watch the way he bends or twists. In almost 20 years , I think the way they do back surgery has really changed , so I'd be optomistic and go get it done.

[Ben]

:eek: I wondered why you kept calling our big black waiter Susie, he kept looking at you kind of strange after that- I thought he was going to take you out back and either stomp you or kiss you :eek: :scary: :blah

[Pappy]

she was black:eek:

[Ben]

Originally posted by Pappy
she was black:eek:

No, HE was black! :eek2:

[tants]

kenny my mom has a "slipped disc" in here back, if she moves the wrong way itll go out of place and she wont be able to get outta bed. she takes these pills for it and she says they help a lot, buit knock her out... if you go for the sugurey best of luck to you!




damn groundhogs! ;) :D :devil

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Ben
No, HE was black! :eek2:

oh *****:macho

ben i hold you responsible....well...atleast represent me if he presses charges:devil :blah

[Max400]

Hey Pappy.....I just had that surgery 5 weeks ago, and after years of backpain, numbness running down my legs, popping pain pills(washing them down with alcohol) and even cortizone injections in my spine, my bulging disk finally blew out and I have to say that was the worst pain in my life, almost as bad as passing gall stones!!! when I got to the emergency room they had to use moraphine to easy the pain:D then they operated the next day. I had 2 bulging disks in my lower back "L4 and L5", when they ruptured and a piece of the disk was working it's way into the little hole in my vertabrae where the sciatic nerve goes and had it pinched off. I could not walk when I went into the hospital and I was up walking 1 hour after surgery. I still have numbness in my leg and foot from the nerve damage, but it is getting better. the doctor said that it would take up to a year for all the feeling to come back because nerves regenerate at about 1 centimeter a day.
Well anyway I for 3 years listen to people telling my not to have surgery on my back, but I should have had this done long ago. people who say dont operate don't have a clue of the pain that goes along with a bulging disk, I think you know as well as me how bad the pain is.

The surgery lasted about 2 hours and I walked out of the hospital the next day. I have 4 more weeks till I can ride and I can't wait........well I you need any more info PM me our just reply to this post.

Later,Rick

[killed300ex]

my mother just had this done on monday but it was up more in the neck area talk about painfull though she had to stay in the hospital overnight and she came home she can move aroundbut its still painfull but i think it will definitly be worth it in the long run. With the meds and technology out now id say go for it and just get it over with its obviously non avoidable now so bite the bullet and just do it. I know 2 other people who just had it done like last year and they are 100% better now.
Good luck
Killed

[Pappy]

thanks max....the ol lady is makin me an apointment for early next week to see a specialist. if thats what they wanna do ill let them.....but after the hatfield ride:D

[Giz400ex]

My wife has her whole back fused because of scoliosis and she had that done about 6 years ago and she's is doing fine. She does take hydrocodone once in awhile if she was doing to much. A back is not something to screw around with!! But, if ya rather not live in pain for the rest of your life then go for it!!

[optikid123]

my mom had 12 disks done 2 monts ago. she was a the pont where she couldnt get outta bed. but my brother is a spine speciaist and just brought his practice to NJ he dose invasve treatments or some crazy stuff but he makes a lot of people better. :) the place he was before is near you pappy

[Rip_Tear]

WOW Kenny I didn't know it was that bad. I don't think you should wait till you can't walk. My dad hurt his back and waited to have anything done... And one night he was laying on the floor watching TV and he couldn't get up. We had to call the ambulence and he was literally screaming when they were putting him on the stretcher, it made me feel so bad for him (it even makes me teary eye'd thinking about him screaming). He was in the hospital for a week, scared me so bad! It turned out he fractured a disk... He really wished he had just gone and got it dealt with, he had to take 6 weeks off work, and couldn't do JACK.

I hope your alright.

[Pappy]

well i aint dead or nuttin:p but enough is enough. ask 2rs rider how bad i was last year at rausch:ermm: i thought he was gonna have to help me take my boots off....and lately its felt worse then that:( i think when my knees started going numb it triggered my brain to get in gear and do something

[Dune Surfer]

Pappy sorry to hear about your back. I fractured four vetibrae skiing, ok now though. Do yourself a favor and get more than one opinion, Find a good surgon. Good luck bud.
tony

[phatswinn]

pain is temporary (or atleast after ya get surgrey it is) i broke my arm last year and let it heal up wrong instead of gettin surgrey, believe me, there might not be an simalarity between back and arm surgery but i know that it wont get better until ya have it done, and a couple of months after its done im sure ull feel like a new man


just remember, there professionals that know what there doin..ull be fine ya old man:D

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Dune Surfer
Pappy sorry to hear about your back. I fractured four vetibrae skiing, ok now though. Do yourself a favor and get more than one opinion, Find a good surgon. Good luck bud.
tony

well i have seen my regular doctor before...and one other doctor. bith said id have maybe a 30% loss in mobility after the operation. that means i cant do alot of things i like to do....but i cant do them now either. my insurance will let me go straight to a specialist now so im hoping there are maybe some other options then whats been told to me in the past

[JustRace]

ok ok ok heres something i actually have info on. lol

I have a herniated disk that is at L5S1. It kept on getting worse and worse. I eventually lost feeling in my left leg, no feeling at all, for 8 months. I then went to a spine and pain specialist. I got stuck on a DRS machine (not the ones that most people think of), doctor said it was part of the newest types that is why most people haven't had it done. I went and got stuck on this machine for 4 weeks everyday. Eventually it got better to where i have no pain at all. All in all i lost 5% of the nerves in my left leg.

[toby400ex]

Sorry to hear about that Pappy, hopefully if it is fixed early enough you can still ride and pc like a madman:blah

[JTRtrx250r]

Pappy...I got a buddy that just had back surgery,he put it off for yrs,hes alot better now,the dude says "I can tie my shoes for the 1st time in 5 yrs"......sounds pretty lame until ya cant do it I spose,good luck to ya ;)

[Juggalo]

sorry to hear that kenny. i wish you the best of luck my friend, i'll say a prayer for ya!

Kenny that suks big time man. I feel your pain (ok pun intended) and have a couple of those herniated little buggers bach there also, but I have to tell you from my own experiences and lots and lots of investigation try some of the other non invasive treatments avail before you give in to the "rich arse gready selfish ortho surgeon" as these guys are seriously all about the money (ok there are some good doc's too but there hiding out someware).

I have seen some people have good results from surgery but the other 8 out of 10 dont fare so well. Most still have pain and never get to 100%. If its your last resort then do your homework because there is a big diff between the knowledge, ability and experience between the different specialists. Ask a few specialists who they respect in their field and check out the ones who's names come up most etc.

Have you tried other non invasive treatments?

Have you heard of Vax-D(vertabral decompression)? or MUA (manipulation under anesthesia)? Did you try physical therapy? Or the ole Chiropractor?

There are others avail too but this is long allready.

I have seen people that were in almost every condition previously listed walking mostly pain free after treatments with Vax-d and two of them went to their first feew treatments in a wheel chair so it can do wonders and the success rate is similiar to surgery but they dont cut you or put you under etc.

For your own sake look into everything out there before letting them cut you up since you can still get the surgery later and there are constantly new procedures for surgery as well so you can benefit from waiting several ways. I have not had the time to look into this but I was recently told about a new surgery that replaces the entire disc, and if all the Bs was true it did sound promissing so take a look into that also.

Good luck

[mysticfalcon]

I got surgery on my back a few years ago and it helped tremondously. It was just to relieve pressure on an overinflated disc. I had been at teh point that I had to be continuously stretching my back which is the opposite of your problem but the surgery left me useless for about a week and then one day I was suddenly at 100%. I have to say that if you can find someone that you feel confident enough in to cut you up then you should do it. What's the worst that could happen? you'd be unable to chase groundhogs around?

[Foxyangel0425]

Pappy:
I am soo sorry to hear of your pain and suffering! My dad is going through the same thing you are. He has a degenertive (sp?) disk. He hurt his back at work and the one disk was patruding (sp?)--boy we need spell check on here (LOL) out about 14mm and it kept hitting his nerve which would effect his leg. So he had to get the nerve cut and he seemed to be better intill.....it happened again!! He is really bad pain and the Nerosurgen told him that he will need to have pins and rods put in his back because the two disks are rubbing together which is making it hurt. So, it just a matter of time before he has the surgery. They say he will be out of commission for about 6/8wks and will have to wear a back brace always!

So no worries pappy! Everything will work out in the end and you will be as good as new!

[ZRacer]

I hope they don't have to operate on Kenny. I don't know who else I will find that can actually change my goggles for me in less than 3 seconds. He has it down to a science.

I know he has been suffering for a while, but he is a tuff @!D man. He will be riding the day he gets BACK from surgery.

If not, I guess I will have to help him for a change.

[Pappy]

haha thanks zracer....i wont do nuttin till the seasons over:p


3 second goggles......yep:macho but we must work on your pit exits.....razors hurt spinning over my feet:mad: :blah

[ZRacer]

I will get you some Steel toe shoes for the next race.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by ZRacer
I will get you some Steel toe shoes for the next race.

lol....that will help...now what about the roost:mad: :blah

[Knight440]

Pappy get the surgery! it has to be better then walking around all doped up on med's My boss has had a pinched nerve in his neck he has been walking around in a daze ever sence he started the MED's and realy starting to make a fool of him self with customers and other employes I am about to get his arse fired if he don't get something done. he's turned into a 56 year old drug addict:rolleyes:


Hope all goes well for ya:)

[ZRacer]

I don't have any good solution for the roost.

[JustRace]

Originally posted by 440EX4me
Have you heard of Vax-D(vertabral decompression)? or MUA (manipulation under anesthesia)? Did you try physical therapy? Or the ole Chiropractor?

I was told that the DRS machine that i was on was a updated version of the Vax-D machine. It worked great for me. I had a 23 degree max bend in my legs. So you can picture me trying to walk.

What they do is stick a bealt like thing around your lower waiste and then one around your abdomen (i know i can't spell lol) and they pull you apart slowly to decompress your spine. At the end its pulling you apart by half your body weight plus 20lbs.

Its definately worth checking out.

[JustRace]

PAPPY LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES FIRST

There are so many risks in having opperations on your back. Use the surgery as a second and final option. Don't do it before you atleast look into the alternatives. I highly recommend the DRS or just whatever spinal decompression they have around you.

I racked up over 20,000 dollars in insurance last year do to my back. Had a total of 48 days of physical theropy. MRI'S, EMG'S, L-SCAN, and other **** done.

hang in there OL man !
;)
my dad had back problems which led to back surgery ..actually several of them before he was OK ...
I think that now a days it is lot safer ,than 20 years ago ..
I have been a back maintenance person with my chiro, for 1/2 of my life & so far so good ..
now its just my damn shoulder that bugs me ..
but thats more related to the collar bone I broke, than anything else

[popo]

Kenny, I have a new set of Craftman tools. Do you prefer metric or standard. I'll get monky to come over with sum left over nutts and bolts and we fix you up with some left over skid plates.

Rico we need beer pain killers.