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deogey
05-10-2003, 01:42 AM
been covered a million times i'm sure...

i'm looking for a new swing arm skid plate, i REALLY like the Pro Armor... is it worth the $40 more than the PRM???

PRM's are on Ebay for $82
Pro Armors (when you can find them) are $118

both are 1/4" and really beefy lookin... gimme some input...

RIDER11X
05-10-2003, 04:00 AM
Go with Armadillo! They are built like a tank! I would only buy one of these or a pro tek.:D

quadrcr87
05-10-2003, 04:50 AM
get ac heavy duty

RiPPiNiTuP7
05-10-2003, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by quadrcr87
get ac heavy duty

I second that, they are .190 thick, with .190 reinforcements in the areas that take a beating....very strong skid. They even make a standard for people that don't need much protection.

Just a side note, but from the angle I took the pic, its hard to see all the reinforcements AC does to this version of their skids, when you see the bottom then you will really notice.

Dave400ex
05-10-2003, 05:19 AM
RiPPiNiTuP7 can you get some pictures of the gussets on the AC because I'm not sure if I have the heavy duty one or not, all I know is there is 2 big cracks in it...

Sportrax10
05-10-2003, 05:33 AM
PRM:cool:

RiPPiNiTuP7
05-10-2003, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by Dave400ex
RiPPiNiTuP7 can you get some pictures of the gussets on the AC because I'm not sure if I have the heavy duty one or not, all I know is there is 2 big cracks in it...

Standard is just one plate, all .190 thick, the reinforced is the same, but with two plates in some areas...if you don't see two, then most likely its the standard. If I get some time today I will get a picture.

deogey
05-10-2003, 06:15 AM
sorry guys i should have been more specific...

it's gotta be thick 1/4" = .250 the .190 AC is a waste of money to me where i ride...
90% rocky ****....

it may be reinforced all over but there's no substitue for metal!

i'm really only interested in the Pro Armor, PRM, or another 1/4" skid if anyone makes one that i don't know about.....

thanks for the other suggestions though....

anywhereEx
05-10-2003, 06:29 AM
I had the PRm and was completly impressed. They can take a beating:macho

quadrcr87
05-10-2003, 06:31 AM
the ac heavy duty is two .190 layers making it twice as thick as .190
hey rippinitup are you sponsored by AC? i am and they really take care of me

RIDER11X
05-10-2003, 07:29 AM
Not many people are framiliar with the Armadillo, but both of my last two machines had them on, and I know that they have sold at least 3 others to other riders.
Armadillo's are 1/4" thick all over, where PRM's is .190 in the center and 1/4(.250) on the lower runners. I will take hits on rocks or stumps at speed on mine with no fear if the is the best line to avoid something else. These will take BRUTAL punishment without bending or cracking. They are available at Rocky Mountain for like $65. I would only buy one of these or a PRO-TEK stainless skid.

I do like the PRM stuff too as I use their chassis skid plate, but I don't like their swingarm skids. JMO:cool:

Teufel
05-10-2003, 07:34 AM
PRM is awesome, I have used them for years. The only one I could say might be a little better is the PRO-TEC stainless steel.
:cool:

2000400EX
05-10-2003, 11:30 AM
I myself would have to vote for the Pro-Armor. I just bought one from Rocky Mountain ATV last week. I haven't had time to put in on yet, but just looking at it, you can tell thing will be able to bash into what ever it wants and not look back. Another thing I liked was the added "tow strap slot" so you can tow your buddies back to camp when his raptor breaks down!! If your interested I'll post some close up pics of it to show you how well this skid plate is made.

Rip_Tear
05-10-2003, 11:53 AM
I like the PRM swingarm skid, and for the price things (they are basicly the same) so the cheaper price will do :D. I like Pro Armor's body skid though, with the side frame guard :D

RiPPiNiTuP7
05-10-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by quadrcr87
hey rippinitup are you sponsored by AC? i am and they really take care of me

Nope, just a loyal customer.

Dave400ex
05-10-2003, 02:23 PM
The PRM, Pro-Tect, and Pro Armor seem to be the best and most used and liked...

toby400ex
05-10-2003, 02:27 PM
PRM, all da way

KY Woods Rider
05-11-2003, 10:42 AM
I'd go with PRM. I trashed an AC skid in short order and many others that I know and ride with have also turned the AC swingarm skids into something that resembles a crushed soda can. I've hit some stuff pretty hard with my PRM and all it has done is put a few scratches and gouges in it.

RiPPiNiTuP7
05-11-2003, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by KY Woods Rider
I'd go with PRM. I trashed an AC skid in short order and many others that I know and ride with have also turned the AC swingarm skids into something that resembles a crushed soda can. I've hit some stuff pretty hard with my PRM and all it has done is put a few scratches and gouges in it.

And 95% of them bought the standard one for XC type riding :ermm:

norrisboat
05-11-2003, 12:04 PM
If you wanna skid plate for tough rocky trails then you want to go pick one up from Pro-tect out of Indianapolis, Indiana. They are by far the best.

1. They are the only steel skid plate out there on the market.


And you ask, big deal its steel? Try crushing a steel can versus an aluminum can. All the skid plates out there are aluminum except for Pro-tects.

2. What happens when you bend an aluminum skid plate?

It is crap. Throw it away. You cant heat it up or bend it back because you will weaken the joints and the metal.

Although when you bend steel you can reheat it and bend it back and it will not weaken the metal.

So my opinion is PRO-TECT.

2000400EX
05-12-2003, 11:34 AM
deogey,

If you are still trying to decide, here are some pics I took of my new Pro Armor skid to show you the craftsmanship of it.

2000400EX
05-12-2003, 11:35 AM
another....

2000400EX
05-12-2003, 11:35 AM
and another...

2000400EX
05-12-2003, 11:36 AM
last one...

Dave400ex
05-12-2003, 11:44 AM
How much the Pro Armors cost?

Rip_Tear
05-12-2003, 11:49 AM
How much are the Pro-tect ones?

Steel is easy to weld, and bend back....
Welding aluminum is harder... But do able...

It would be cool if I could get a cut out, or an unwelded skid plate, then I could just weld my own up :D There an idea ;) :eek2:

deogey
05-12-2003, 01:59 PM
i'm pretty much sold on the pro armor...

anybody got a better price than ebay @ $118 buy it nows???

AC 400 ex 02
05-12-2003, 02:23 PM
all i know is that i like both AC and PRM products, i had ac stuff then i started doing more trails so i went to prm, if your doing mx or not to rough of terrain the AC is what you want, if your doing alot of XC/ Rocky stuff then go with the prm and you wont be disapointed, another nice thing about the prm is there is protection over the mounts so you cant damage the bolts connecting the skid to your swingarm, either way you cant go wrong. JMO
Jay

RIDER11X
05-12-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by 2000400EX
deogey,

If you are still trying to decide, here are some pics I took of my new Pro Armor skid to show you the craftsmanship of it.
WOW!:eek2: very nice!

UnameItIRideIt
05-12-2003, 07:17 PM
Give James Perry a call at JPMX he has some really heavy duty skids. Cheep to......... 270-622-5644

ralph2
05-13-2003, 08:48 AM
i went with armadillo so i could have the spacers that u can raise or lower your groundclearence depending on if you want more clearence to the chain or more clearence to the ground.... also it has held up excelent so... nothing bad to say here:blah

300EXrider02
05-13-2003, 10:27 AM
armadillo is .250
but get PRM, it wont let you down, its impossible to dent, bend or crack them

Dave400ex
05-13-2003, 10:57 AM
How thick are the JPMX skids?

remlapr
05-13-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by AC 400 ex 02
another nice thing about the prm is there is protection over the mounts so you cant damage the bolts connecting the skid to your swingarm, either way you cant go wrong. JMO
Jay

I was going to say the same thing. Those are nice detailed pics of the pro-armor, I wish I would have taken pics like that of my PRM before I put it on so I could show what AC is talking about. I have never seen or held a pro-armor first hand, but based on the pics I would say the construction and design of the PRM is superior.

AC 400 ex 02
05-13-2003, 11:35 AM
i wish i would have 2, but it completely slipped my mind:mad:

05-13-2003, 12:33 PM
I've been thru 2 AC racin skids and finally went with a PRM. I"m very pleased with the PRM but the pic shows there not indistructable.. That's not normal for PRM skid but I guess things are gonna give when you jump a rock creek by accident and land on nothing but rocks...:ermm:

Teufel
05-13-2003, 01:18 PM
I prefer PRM, but I normally go through one a season. I pass my old one on to one of my friends. Whatever you buy don't expect it to be indestructible if you ride the rough or you will be disappointed. :cool:

2000ex
05-13-2003, 01:58 PM
I would give my vote for PRM as well. Bought my first one right after getting my bike in late 1999 when they were $54. It lasted well over 2 years of pure northeast rock abuse.

I heard good things about the Armadillo so I figured I would give it a shot...big mistake. The skid itself is decent, but the mounting setup is horrible with the spacers and slotted holes. To make this worse, the boltheads are exposed to take a thrashing themselves. Try getting off your skid with flattened boltheads.
:mad:

The PRM has recessed holes so your bolts are safe, and they use nice tight holes so the skid fits correctly without the possibility of it sliding around like the slotted holes on the Armadillo.

bigbadbrad
05-14-2003, 12:42 PM
i have an armif=dilo on my 300ex, and i had no spacers come with it, but it does have recesed bolt holes on mine. I love mine nothing but good. it is awsome i have hit a couple of big rocks while riding in a freshly harvested potatoe feild going about 30 and my skid still looks like new except for a few surface sracthes, and it is alot beter theny my bent to hell steel stocker

Bill Fuller
05-14-2003, 12:53 PM
Iv'e been running PRM myself and will not use them again for thier swingarm skid mine looks like it's been run over by a tank.I'm constantly having to hammer it out so the rotor dosn't rub.My next will be steel.

Dave400ex
05-14-2003, 03:28 PM
Sounds like Pro-Tect might be the way to go, but they are really expensive at $145 for the Swingarm skid.

Bill Fuller
05-15-2003, 02:58 AM
Add up the price of 2 PRM's and it's not that bad.

lil400exman
05-15-2003, 05:01 AM
everyone diss'es ac beacause theyre using STANDARD DUTY! if you go with heavy duty therre impossible to break believe me i have noticed the difference between the two and its unbelievable 2 layers of .190 try to beat a single layer of .250...............try .380..................big difference.................:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

RiPPiNiTuP7
05-15-2003, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by lil400exman
everyone diss'es ac beacause theyre using STANDARD DUTY! if you go with heavy duty therre impossible to break believe me i have noticed the difference between the two and its unbelievable 2 layers of .190 try to beat a single layer of .250...............try .380..................big difference.................:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

About time someone noticed :devil

lil400exman
05-15-2003, 06:38 AM
true dat...............;)

MojaveKing
05-15-2003, 01:43 PM
Prolly RPM or MOOSE for me....?????

Dave400ex
05-15-2003, 02:20 PM
RiPPiNiTuP7 can you please take some pictures of the AC I really want to see it. If it's really .380 thick and holds up that good I would look into it more...

2000400EX
05-23-2003, 02:13 AM
I finally got around to mounting my Pro-Armor skid.....here are some pics.

2000400EX
05-23-2003, 02:14 AM
another,..........

465Stroker
05-23-2003, 03:08 AM
If your riding 90% of the time on rocky trails then Pro-tect is your best choice. The Pro-tect is made of stainless steel and will not shear or chip like aluminum does when in contact with rocks.
Keep in mind all skid must bend or deteriorate at some point for that fact that something has to give when being beaten after time - and a skid is much cheaper than you valuable linkage, swingarm, or even you rotor! I have seen some very heavy duty homemade swingarm skids that were too resistant that the swingarm took all of the stress which caused the swingarm to break.
One other item most do not look at is the amount of ground clearance. If you have a 1/4" think skid that is only 2" off of the ground it will wear without you even noticing since it is constantly dragging / rubbing...

Here are rating on skid I have owned:
1. Pro-tect - always a perfect fit, great ground clearance, wears like iron..
2. PRM - almost perfect fit, great ground clearance
3. DG - Barely fit, decent ground clearance
4. AC - Did'nt fit - Had to make all the holes larger to get it to fit, hardly any ground clearance, simply junk.. For 10 bucks more I could of had a PRM.

05-23-2003, 03:17 AM
not to argue w/you Rickl ,;)
but the Protect's weigh a ton

465Stroker
05-23-2003, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by "2-R's Rider"
not to argue w/you Rickl ,;)
but the Protect's weigh a ton

Not to argue with you either - But aftermarket swingarms, shocks, wheels, tires, carriers - all weight more than the stock stuff - so what's the big deal?
Take it easy - Just tyrin to make a point...:cool: