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Quad18star
04-30-2003, 01:59 PM
Well I got back from the Yammy dealer not too long ago and heard some interesting stuff . I know the guys there pretty good cuz the old man is friends with a bunch of them and we were talking about me getting a new bike . I was trying to decide wether to get a Raptor or a Banshee . Well I told him I didn't really want a banshee cuz everyone around my area has one and I started explaining all the things I didn't like about the Raptor . I told him that I was also considering either the Z400 or the KFX400 . As soon as I said that he asked me when I wanted to buy a new bike . I told him anytime within the next few weeks . He then said " How long would you be willing to wait to get a new bike ?" I told him until the end of June . Then he told me he wanted me to read soemthign and to come up into his office for a few minutes. He pulled this Memo off the bulletin board and handed it to me .

Well heres what it said in my own words ( cuz they use all the big language crap) .

" Do to the ongoing success of the atv market , and an extensive demand in the High Performance market , Yamaha will be unveiling an all new redesigned Sport ATV . The Ban of many 2 stroke ATVs in numerous states and provinces ( aka places in canada) , has lead Yamaha Corp . to release a four stroke Sport ATV that will change lead the way in the ATV Industry. This ATV will phase out the decade old Banshee that has dominated the 2strokes since it's release in 1987 . We are very pleased to announce this , and hope that you will help us celebrate the release of this all new Sport ATV before summer is in full swing "


Thats a summary from what I read . I asked him when he thinks Yamaha will be releasing the bike and he said that he figures it will be towards the end of May to mid June ( Yammy did the same style Memo/Press release thing with the Raptor and the 660 Grizzly)

Unless I hear promising news from Honda before Yammy does release it , looks like I might be ridding Blue ( or whatever color they offer) by mid summer or next fall .

muff
04-30-2003, 02:01 PM
wow, that'll be cool


i'm predicting 5 pages of bs posts coming up tho :(

Striker49
04-30-2003, 02:06 PM
Interesting info...but Yam hasnt even released "real" info on it yet...muchless have it on the showroom floor by this summer. Thats unusual, but I dont keep up with Yamie much. :ermm:
Sounds promising though. :)

Quad18star
04-30-2003, 02:12 PM
Yeah I predict a lot of BS happening but I'm just relaying what I read . Can't wait to see it on the Showroom floors . Or even better in my Garage :D

James70214
04-30-2003, 02:20 PM
It will be out by the end of June. Just wait till you see it.

Rip_Tear
04-30-2003, 02:32 PM
Cool if it's true, I hope Yamaha gets rid of their Warrior, I don't like that quad... Good luck with getting a new quad Quad18star

honda400exrider
04-30-2003, 02:37 PM
Yeah I need to buy a good quad with some balls. Hopefully Honda will make something around the same time Yami does and that it will be up my ally.

Quad18star
04-30-2003, 02:39 PM
I need something SOON . All this nice weather and all my buddies out ridding and I have to work 60 hrs a week and dont have a toy to play with besides building up the Cuda . I need a bike soon . Anything race ready / good deals down in your end of Ontario??

Narly R
04-30-2003, 02:40 PM
Hmmm have I heard this before? I hope someone somewhere comes out wif a new bike sometime!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Juggalo
04-30-2003, 02:51 PM
its too bad the new bike is replacing the banshee :(

JHF219
04-30-2003, 03:03 PM
i so cant wait this new yammy is going to be PIMP!! Rico rumor has it you wont see the Honda till December or so ! that is from a really good source too !!

spincr4hire
05-01-2003, 01:00 AM
I'll pass on the new Yamaha, and wait on the Honda...

Glow Plug
05-01-2003, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by spincr4hire
I'll pass on the new Yamaha, and wait on the Honda...

i second that :D

danyeo
05-01-2003, 02:59 AM
I got sick and tired of waiting for Honda and their imaginary quad that has never come out so i got a Cannibal for 4500 and couldn't be happier. Yes i have a bunch of spare parts too.:D

660bigdaddy
05-01-2003, 09:08 AM
if they come out with a real sport quad w/ a 450 engine, i'll have a real nice raptor for sale...

Chanman420q
05-01-2003, 10:27 AM
i bet there gunna come out with like a 440 twin cylender 4 stroke... now that would be pimp :macho

Sandgod4
05-01-2003, 12:26 PM
It will have a 426 motor, but will be called a 450..

mxdave28
05-01-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Sandgod4
It will have a 426 motor, but will be called a 450..

Didnt Yami just come out with a new 450 dirt bike? kinda the woods racer type???

lex luger
05-01-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Sandgod4
It will have a 426 motor, but will be called a 450..

or *****in'


(iam not gonna get *'ed out for that willl i :huh )

lex luger
05-01-2003, 02:59 PM
haha flipping thingy

*b0itchin' :)

forum
05-02-2003, 08:30 AM
the quad market is going to get realy awsome real soon. by this time next year. We will see competitive machines in the 450 cc size by all the major manufacturers. All this stuff has to have some truth to it. Atleast on of the manufacturers are realisng something new. The biggest evidence of this is the Gnc's pro production cc limit bieng moved up from 440 to 450 just before the racing season started. It was originally planned to be only up to 440 just like the pro class. But one or more of the major manufacturers had a meeting with the gnc to bump it up another 10 cc's. My opinion it should be 500 cc's for the preds. and the ama supercross is 550cc.. I heard some interesting things from KTM too. But i have realy no hard facts on anything. Basically we are all in this together. But im willing to bet yammy will be the next big surprise.

Jellyrolls
05-02-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by spincr4hire
I'll pass on the new Yamaha, and wait on the Honda...

very smart

MxDale71
05-02-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by mxdave28
Didnt Yami just come out with a new 450 dirt bike? kinda the woods racer type???

Yamaha has the WR 450F that has electric start for woods racing, and the YZ 450F that just has the kick start for MX.

P.S. I'm talkin about bikes, obviously.

Tim Ferry is racing SX w/ the YZ 450F... crazy fast bike. 55 + RWHP, and weighs about 217 lbs.

raptor_02
05-02-2003, 12:44 PM
did you ever sale your Cannondale MXDALE????

tait_gt2002
05-03-2003, 09:56 AM
I know the 426 is potent and has been described as having a two stroke snappiness to it, but I talked to a guy at the Yamaha dealer the other day, he said his choice would be the new 450 as well. He mentioned that it had the powerband nearer to a Banshee than any four stroke he'd ever ridden. He said it had explosive top end. Of course this was in a bike, but still...

nacs400ex
05-04-2003, 09:58 AM
I will wait for Honda to unvail their new quad in the fall.

MxDale71
05-06-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by raptor_02
did you ever sale your Cannondale MXDALE????

Yup, I'm handing it over to MXQuadChick (Kara) tomorrow night. Hopefully I'll buy a bike Thursday morning... if not, I'll just have to see when me and my dad have time to go pick one up. I have to wait for my dad since I'm still 17.

ledofthezep
05-13-2003, 09:15 AM
Anyone checked out the latest issue of Dirtwheels? I saw the cover this morning as I was leaving the gas station, I didn't read the article,...says it's the Yamaha 450 Warrior.....kinda looks like a pissed off 250R if you ask me.....here's a pic of the cover....

Brad
05-13-2003, 09:28 AM
i picked it up, i thought that was the stock unit yami came out with lol

Juggalo
05-13-2003, 09:46 AM
the 450 warrior is a normal warrior built up by fst. its got a blaster hood on it.

Tecate250
05-15-2003, 12:23 PM
Um.

Banshee domating the atv market?????

If honda or kawasaki came out with a 350 twin 2 stroke they would not say that.

Look at yams sucess with craptors.
Tranny problems here reverse gears binding up.
Axels snapping.

Oh yeah my hopes are high for yamaha.

nacs400ex
05-15-2003, 12:26 PM
In my opinion that blyster hood reminds me of a bird :o But hopefully Honda will release their new quad a little earlier, I cant wait for this thing!:mad:

Dunlap
05-15-2003, 01:05 PM
YAMAHA 4 something something cc in 3 weeks!

MOFO
05-15-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
YAMAHA 4 something something cc in 3 weeks!


I've heard the same thing the other day. Its suppose to be the bike motor but bored out a bit, but still under or at 450cc's. Should be interesting to see...

Brad
05-18-2003, 05:42 AM
http://www.bluetraxx.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=20814

AndrewRRR
05-18-2003, 05:35 PM
Wow, if they do relase it soon that will be 2 very successful bikes Yamaha has released while Honda is still sitting on their hands. lol

Hey why does the AMA and GNC keep bumping up the displacement limit for 4 strokes (400, 440, 450, etc) while the 2 stroke limit stays at 265? Come on, you bumped the 4 strokers up 50cc's, at least let the 2 stroke guys run 300's now. I guess they want to see 2 strokes phased out as well...

zfire_28
05-18-2003, 07:20 PM
If it is true, I can't wait to see it.

Wired
05-21-2003, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by AndrewRRR
I guess they want to see 2 strokes phased out as well...

thats the whole idea ;)

XANDADA
05-21-2003, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Wired
thats the whole idea ;)

wusses.....:mad::macho ...lol, j/p!

ZRacer
05-21-2003, 08:05 AM
From what I heard this quad is suppose to be awesome. It is suppose to have the power of a 310R and handle like a it has a Laeger Chassis. Also, it comes with Front Shocks with Ressy's. I am believe they might be adjustable. I heard 5 speed, but I haven't heard about reverse, but I think it will probably have it. The dealer show is beginning of June, so it should be in dealers by the End of June I think.

I am excited about it, but I already have two Z400s and won't be getting anything till next year.

I assure you that this is no joke.

atvchik400ex
05-21-2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by spincr4hire
I'll pass on the new Yamaha, and wait on the Honda...

ILL DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT...THOUGH YAMAHA'S ARE PRETTY GOOD..ILL TAKE THE HONDA!
~KATIE :-D

Guy400
05-21-2003, 09:20 AM
Don't expect the new Yammy to handle like a Laeger chassis, or any stock Honda chassis for that matter. It will have the WR450 motor in it with electric start and piggyback front shocks. Yamaha is supposed to have the official press release the first of June.

Also, about Honda. Don't hold your breath on it being out this fall because we probably won't see it in 2003--maybe in 2004.

AndrewRRR
05-21-2003, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Guy400
Also, about Honda. Don't hold your breath on it being out this fall because we probably won't see it in 2003--maybe in 2004.


Honda is just lazy. I don't care what anybody says, it DOES NOT TAKE THIS LONG TO DEVELOP A QUAD :mad: . hehe. Even to work out all the bugs in something that started out full of em (which isn't likely since Honda is good at getting things right the first time) it still shouldn't take this long. I'll jump ship and buy a Yamaha if it's good, i'm fed up with Honda. :devil

300EX_HMF
05-21-2003, 01:08 PM
hey would you rather them rush it and then have problems in the near furture?? i would rather them wait another 6 months before they sell them so that you wont have any problems at all!!

gotta have patience!!!

Dunlap
05-21-2003, 01:59 PM
It does handle better than a LAEGER!

jmoney45
05-21-2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
It does handle better than a LAEGER!
:eek:

Come on, spill the beans. :D Give us a little more to chew on for the next few weeks. I hope it is all that it sounds like, cuz i'm liking what i'm hearing.

Dunlap
05-21-2003, 02:28 PM
FACTORYWRENCH and RETODD have gone missing after saying they had photos and talking too much on ATV CON. I think the MEN IN BLUE abducted them ,I going to keep quiet.

jmoney45
05-21-2003, 02:30 PM
Understood. Can you tell me one thing? Is it really detuned or will it be fast stock? That's all I'll ask. I promise...:cool:

jmoney45
05-21-2003, 02:52 PM
I just went over to ATV Conn to check out their posts. I guess they did spill the beans a bit. Sounds like it's gonna rip. Can't wait to see it. :D

Brad
05-21-2003, 03:04 PM
http://forums.atvconnection.com/messageview.cfm/catid/13/threadid/342088/STARTPAGE/1.cfm


i think yamaha emailed the postmaster and threw that guy off,

the ;ast thing he said was, yah i have pics...


I WANNA SEE THIS FRIGGEN THING

Dunlap
05-21-2003, 04:19 PM
It will be the best over all atv to date and as one gncc pro said it is the best handling atv he has ever riden.I personaly am excited about working with GAS GAS,with alittle work I predict it will win the pro-perduction class in the gncc races this year.

cjpoole1
05-21-2003, 05:04 PM
I'm excited, Tell us more!!!!!

400EXrider#91
05-22-2003, 09:05 AM
i am going to have to call to my yamaha dealer

JustRace
05-22-2003, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
come on people, you are pathetic just like the rest of this stupid country. you just can't wait, you have no patience at all. just wait a couple weeks and it'll probably be in magazines, until then just stop harrassing people about it!

Take your midol and it will be ok. I guess some people actually get excited about the release of a new quad. I know i can't wait.

cjpoole1
05-22-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
come on people, you are pathetic just like the rest of this stupid country. you just can't wait, you have no patience at all. just wait a couple weeks and it'll probably be in magazines, until then just stop harrassing people about it!
Actually youll know just about everything about off the internet months before its in a magazine

joeroadking
05-22-2003, 12:41 PM
I can not wait until they relese this bike just hope they did the homework on this one we do not need another 01 craptor

jmoney45
05-22-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
come on people, you are pathetic just like the rest of this stupid country. you just can't wait, you have no patience at all. just wait a couple weeks and it'll probably be in magazines, until then just stop harrassing people about it!

Who's harrassing? I think you're the one being pathetic. You don't like this thread, don't read it. And if you don't like this stupid country, get the F out.

zfire_28
05-23-2003, 03:21 AM
WTF? please wait till your balls drop before making another post.
Originally posted by Flyin#3-1/2
come on people, you are pathetic just like the rest of this stupid country. you just can't wait, you have no patience at all. just wait a couple weeks and it'll probably be in magazines, until then just stop harrassing people about it!

400EXrider#91
05-23-2003, 09:32 AM
just visited my yamaha dealer...told him what i heard on heard on here. he was like yup i am getting ready to the dealer show and when i get back i will tell you all about it, the i was like then if you know its for sure i wanna be the frist one to get one. then he was like i get the first one you get the second. so it looks like i will have one of the first ones:blah

MxDale71
05-23-2003, 12:53 PM
Why don't you guys try being PERFORMANCE loyal instead of brand loyal. All of you that talk about waiting on Honda instead just because they have a very reliable 400cc motor that doesn't even put out 30 HP. HAHA, anything can be reliable if it's THAT detuned, and ANYTHING can be reliable if you quit being lazy and try to do regular maintanance on it.

Brand loyalty holds the sport of ATV racing back.

Sandgod4
05-23-2003, 01:11 PM
Well said. I don't expect the Yamaha or Honda for that matter to out do the Dale in any category and if they do it will come down to the best rider not the machine..

QuAdRaCeR244
05-24-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by muff
wow, that'll be cool


i'm predicting 5 pages of bs posts coming up tho :(




you were all most right :ermm: only 4 pages

zfire_28
05-25-2003, 08:40 AM
Neither ATV CONN, Bluetraxx, or this site can produce any real pics. With all the people who "claim" to have seen or riden one, and still no pics????
cough cough B/S cough cough.
:rolleyes:

Guy400
05-25-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by zfire_28
Neither ATV CONN, Bluetraxx, or this site can produce any real pics. With all the people who "claim" to have seen or riden one, and still no pics????
cough cough B/S cough cough.
:rolleyes: Did you ever think that those of us who have seen it don't want Yamaha up our asses for posting pics of it before the official press release? The quad exists, I've seen pics.

zfire_28
05-25-2003, 08:53 AM
Yamaha prabably would be a little P/O. ok I get your point.

Fred55
05-25-2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Guy400
Did you ever think that those of us who have seen it don't want Yamaha up our asses for posting pics of it before the official press release? The quad exists, I've seen pics.

Just asking Guy, what kind of connection do you have that you were able to see the pics? What are your opinions on it?

Guy400
05-25-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Fred55
Just asking Guy, what kind of connection do you have that you were able to see the pics? What are your opinions on it? My best friend's father was a plant manager at the Yamaha manufacturing plant in Georgia. I will go on record as saying I did not get the pics from that source;)

My opinion of the new Yammy--I don't have one. I don't know any specs on it and it would be unfair for me to say it will suck or be great. Some things did look pretty cool and somethings didn't.

Fred55
05-25-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Guy400
My best friend's father was a plant manager at the Yamaha manufacturing plant in Georgia. I will go on record as saying I did not get the pics from that source;)



This conversation never took place...LOL;)

But from what you saw, what did it look like it has as far as features and such things like that?

Guy400
05-25-2003, 09:38 AM
Without too much detail--450cc, looks very much like a Raptor without the front grill.

superfly300ex
05-25-2003, 05:27 PM
does it look like this?

http://

Guy400
05-25-2003, 11:33 PM
No, that looks like a Blaster. But that's not it.

MxDale71
05-26-2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by superfly300ex
does it look like this?

http://

Thats not a bad photoshop... good job on mixing the bike and quad looks. I would be tight if they released a quad that looked similar to that.

Interceptor
05-26-2003, 10:49 AM
That's pretty cool for ps.

newjacksm
05-26-2003, 03:22 PM
ahhhhhhhhhh should i wait for the new yamaha or go with a Z?!?!?!

what really counts though is how much its going to cost!!!!!!!!!

if its in teh 5600 area


im getting it if its over 6k i cant get it to much money for me

Quad18star
05-31-2003, 05:40 PM
Heres the low down from one of the most reliable source out there . WR 450 motor with Raptor style frame which has been tweaked a little bit . Overall finish on the bike looks good. Frame looks to have weak spots . Smooth hood as compared to the Raptor's slotted grill , but look very similar to each other . When it comes out , you can say you heard it first from me . Theres a reason why I haven't bought anything yet . :D

300EX_HMF
06-02-2003, 01:41 PM
i would think since its a 450 its gona have a good frame and awesome shocks because thees just too much motr for stock shocks and a stock regualr frame.

ill bet it will have aftermarket shocks and will look nothing like a raptor!

Flyin#3-1/2
06-05-2003, 12:24 PM
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/unitinfo.asp?lid=1&lc=atv&cid=1&mid=323

check it out

AndrewRRR
06-06-2003, 03:23 PM
Well, I'm not a Yamaha fan and I LOVE IT so far! That looks awesome! Kudos to the people who gave a heads up on it.

I love honda, but as far as i'm concerned they are ball lickers! Lets do the math: Kawasaki: 2 new sport quads(KFX400, V-force), Yamaha: 2 (660 raptor, new 450), Suzuki 1 (Z400), Polaris 1 (predator), Honda: ZERO!!!!

Vented!

T-R-X
06-07-2003, 04:19 AM
the new yamaha is sick, i would buy it, im definatly selling my r.

AndrewRRR
06-07-2003, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by T-R-X
the new yamaha is sick, i would buy it, im definatly selling my r.

Noooooooooooooooo! Don't do that! You'll regret it. I'm gonna try to save up for the new Yammy but I'll never sell my R.