What do you guys think of the WB R-4?

[DaveEX7]

What do ya think about it?

I was thinkin about gettin it for the up coming 400.

[cheetah]

I like it. I prefer the e-series though. That's just me. They are both good pipes and wake up the 400 pretty well.

[Guy400]

Save your money, buy HMF. The performance is every bit as good and is a fraction of the cost. Call Dusty at C&D.

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by Guy400
Save your money, buy HMF. The performance is every bit as good and is a fraction of the cost.

Which did you notice a bigger difference in, top end or bottom end?

And how much did you pay? Cause the R-4 is $262, or $505 for the system

[Guy400]

There's a HUGE difference in the low-mid power with the HMF. I can't say what I paid exactly for my pipe but call Dusty, you'll get the slip-on for cheaper than $262;)

[DaveEX7]

If Dusty will give me the HMF for around 220-230, then I should have 260 left to spend..... so do you think I should just go with the system or save up from 260 to get a new pair or tires or shocks?

[Guy400]

From talking with HMF directly they stated that a full system will produce no significant power gains on an otherwise unmodded engine (i.e. just a filter). Now, if you're going with a bore kit, cams and higher compression than you'd want to look at a full system. But, if you're just looking to keep the engine stock internally, go with a slip-on only and buy yourself a set of Razr's:D

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by Guy400
From talking with HMF directly they stated that a full system will produce no significant power gains on an otherwise unmodded engine (i.e. just a filter). Now, if you're going with a bore kit, cams and higher compression than you'd want to look at a full system. But, if you're just looking to keep the engine stock internally, go with a slip-on only and buy yourself a set of Razr's:D


That was my original plan... I was gonna get...

.R-4 or HMF slip on
.K&N Filter w/outerwear, no air box lid

Just for the engine stuff.... and the rest was gonna be a pair of bars and tires.

[Dave400ex]

Yeah I would just go with a HMF slip-on. Only thing I would change though is getting a UNI filter instead of the K&N/Outerwears. I have a K&N and it is now up in the attic. I like the UNI much better and think Foam is better, period. Then just have it re-jetted and your on the way.
If you get a brand new 400 you won't need new tires right away so I would look into Shocks or Steering Stabilizer. After those get your Tires and Handlebars...

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by Dave400ex
Yeah I would just go with a HMF slip-on. Only thing I would change though is getting a UNI filter instead of the K&N/Outerwears. I have a K&N and it is now up in the attic. I like the UNI much better and think Foam is better, period. Then just have it re-jetted and your on the way.
If you get a brand new 400 you won't need new tires right away so I would look into Shocks or Steering Stabilizer. After those get your Tires and Handlebars...


I hear ya about the foam filters..... but ask anyone around here, all they run is K&N...

I dunno, nobody has said anything good/or bad about them from my friends around here, but now everyones sayin that go with the foam (UNI, WB Powerfilter).... I'l try the foam, cause its only $20, and if it dont work out too good with it, then Il switch to another type.

Thanks for the input.

And, are steering stabilizers REALLY WORTH IT??..... I dont know much about them, but is that all they do is stabalize your steering?

[Dune Surfer]

the r4 is really loud

[Dave400ex]

I ran a K&N and personally I did not like it. Plus Foam is easier to clean, drys faster, and you can be riding sooner.
If you are going to be riding trails, get a steering stabilizer. The best way to describe it is like power steering on a car. It helps you control it better, and you won't lose the bars as much...

[WhY_ZeE]

Originally posted by Dave400ex
Yeah I would just go with a HMF slip-on. Only thing I would change though is getting a UNI filter instead of the K&N/Outerwears. I have a K&N and it is now up in the attic. I like the UNI much better and think Foam is better, period. Then just have it re-jetted and your on the way.
If you get a brand new 400 you won't need new tires right away so I would look into Shocks or Steering Stabilizer. After those get your Tires and Handlebars...

Why handlebars ?

[Dave400ex]

He said he wanted to get some Handlebars.

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by Dune Surfer
the r4 is really loud

If it's louder then a T-4, that can be a problem...... cause people around here sometimes complain about the noise.

Do you think that the HMF would be quieter..... and how would the R-4 and HMF compare?

How much is a steering stabilizer? And where can I find one at the cheapest price, but still get a good quality one?

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by Dave400ex
He said he wanted to get some Handlebars.

TAG X-5's:D

[WhY_ZeE]

Hey SpeedDemin85, why do you want to get handlebars ?
because you flip your quad every ride or cos they just look nice ?

[sharpshooter]

I just got the HMF and I'm very happy.It is really well made,paid $200 from CandD and $20 extra because I wanted it black.It is as loud if not louder than an T4 but I like it.I definitely like it better than the FMF powercore4 I had.Also I would never run a foam air filter over a k&n.

[PHIL_B54]

i got my r4 brand new off ebay for $220 shipped
seems well constructed, and mounted very easy
it is a little on the loud side, but i do like it

[bklyn400ex]

i have an r4 i think it sounds great, but you will prob. have to polish it up so it shines

[UglyMotha™]

:D





plus even better i got my full system for 250 :D

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by WhY_ZeE
Hey SpeedDemin85, why do you want to get handlebars ?
because you flip your quad every ride or cos they just look nice ?


Are you tryin to be cool, cause its not workin......


Cause my bars now are bent just from riden, and I wanna new straight, stronger pair.

[PhilMoore]

I have an R4. It is too loud.

It did improve throttle response a little. It has more snap to it.

I don't think it has any more horsepower with the R4.

Phil

[Chanman420q]

Originally posted by SpeedDemin85
TAG X-5's:D



noooooooo get 909 400ex bend... perfect for everything ;)

[UglyMotha™]

Originally posted by PhilMoore
I have an R4. It is too loud.

It did improve throttle response a little. It has more snap to it.

I don't think it has any more horsepower with the R4.

Phil


come on over to ohio and i'll show you just how much bark my r-4 has:D

[400grl]

The R-4's are LOUD - I have an E-Series and I like it alot. It gave me some decent power gains just with a new airfilter, etc. I know you didn't ask about it, but thought I'd mention it. I have heard good things about the HMF, too......

[Paul400ex2002]

where'd you get a r4 promeg for 250?

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by Paul400ex2002
where'd you get a r4 promeg for 250?

Dennis Kirk Magazine.

[Paul400ex2002]

Originally posted by UglyMotha
:D





plus even better i got my full system for 250 :D


You can get a full system for 250 from DK?

[UglyMotha™]

nope the slip on is like 250 probably less the pro-meg is around 500 but i was fortunate enough to find one on ebay:D :huh

the land of savings:huh

[Paul400ex2002]

cool that's kind of what i figure, ebay that is... I'll have to keep an eye out.

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by Paul400ex2002
cool that's kind of what i figure, ebay that is... I'll have to keep an eye out.


EBAY even has some pretty nice quads out there.