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ChadEXer
04-12-2003, 08:09 AM
Methanol carb is on and shes ready to fly. Well almost. I was planning to do a little racing this weekend but while installing my carb this morning I broke the powerjet fitting that goes into the float bowl. Damnit. Should have it fixed in a few days.

killed300ex
04-12-2003, 08:36 AM
Those rear tires big enough? lol those things are huge. That sucks about breaking that bolt thing. Nice looking quad though
killed

BornOnFire
04-12-2003, 08:37 AM
Good to see it finally coming together after what, 1 1/2 years? LOL. Looks good man. Crazy fast!

ChadEXer
04-12-2003, 08:46 AM
Its been together and running great for the last few months I just decided to lower it and put it on Methanol recently. And of course I had to break something. Bad part is its a 2 cent piece thats broke, and will probably cost $100 to fix.

ridesa02400EX
04-12-2003, 08:56 AM
looks fast i hope you beat the ***** outta some shees and raptors

CHAUNCY
04-12-2003, 09:31 AM
Looks really fast

honda400exrider
04-12-2003, 09:37 AM
I wonder how fast that mofo can go... I assume pretty fast... Haha but im sure it will be worth the wait:ermm: .

NTPRacing#19
04-12-2003, 10:23 AM
i could use that thing to strecth my arms after a work out :p

Rip_Tear
04-12-2003, 10:28 AM
That sucks Chad! Well atleast is comming together! Its always like that the cheapest parts cost the most! Its crazy.

exriderdude
04-12-2003, 11:16 AM
man, when the hek are you gonna get a new freakin camera:scary:

04-12-2003, 12:11 PM
get a better camera!:blah

Glow Plug
04-12-2003, 12:46 PM
looking awsome as alwyas :D when are you getting a camrea that does that bike justice ????

ChadEXer
04-12-2003, 12:49 PM
Thanks fellas! Im going to take some good pics with my Advanced Photo System camera tommorrow and scan the pics and put them on here. Should be a little better!!

Nausty
04-12-2003, 02:05 PM
lol, I don't think your quad could get or look any better:eek:

sweet300ex
04-12-2003, 02:19 PM
POS:rolleyes:

Honda4trax250x
04-12-2003, 03:35 PM
those white fenders look really cool and origional nice job

MichaelS693
04-12-2003, 04:33 PM
finally you lowered it :D chad you really need to come down here one weekend we race... we had a play night tonight but i didnt get to go because of my grades:rolleyes: i gotta get them up fast.... it would be cool if you made a trip over this summer and meet Me, stevengates45(steven gates), blue_banshee from atvdra.com(jon lorio), and DirtSlinger from atvdra.com(ryan burt)..... you just gotta figure out where to stay lol... i mean yeah you could stay at my crib but i seriosuly doubt the parents would let me invite a guy ive never met in person to stay the night in the house lol..................... oh yeah chad what suspension you decide to put on?

born-to-race
04-12-2003, 04:56 PM
What did you do to run methenal? does it hurt to run methenal on stock engines?

MichaelS693
04-13-2003, 08:31 AM
well about that trip comin down here... looks like it wont be happening unless you go to monticello which is like 5 min away because the track we usually go to has stopped runnin 4-wheelers and is runnin cars only but there was another track built in monticello so we will be racing there for now on

Glow Plug
04-13-2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by born-to-race
What did you do to run methenal? does it hurt to run methenal on stock engines?


if you can't tell he quad isn't stock lol

and he want's to go fast that's why he runs methenal


i think lol :cool:

ChadEXer
04-13-2003, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by MichaelS693
finally you lowered it :D chad you really need to come down here one weekend we race... we had a play night tonight but i didnt get to go because of my grades:rolleyes: i gotta get them up fast.... it would be cool if you made a trip over this summer and meet Me, stevengates45(steven gates), blue_banshee from atvdra.com(jon lorio), and DirtSlinger from atvdra.com(ryan burt)..... you just gotta figure out where to stay lol... i mean yeah you could stay at my crib but i seriosuly doubt the parents would let me invite a guy ive never met in person to stay the night in the house lol..................... oh yeah chad what suspension you decide to put on?
I would like to make a trip over there but the way work is slowing, I may not be able to afford to put Methanol in it muvh less go anywhere!! But hopefully it will pick up soon, usually does about this time!! For now I just have struts on it, but plan to go to a drag +6 tubular swingarm, and drag a-arms with Marvin Shaws soon!

ChadEXer
04-13-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by born-to-race
What did you do to run methenal? does it hurt to run methenal on stock engines?
To run Meth you need a higher compression than stock, and a carb setup for it. you can get a Lectron carb setup for it for about $300 or a FCR for about $500. Ive got a Lectron 40mm carb with a powerjet setup for Meth on mine, and 12.5:1 compression! To make it run really good you really need a port job and a few other things but dont have to have it for it to run on Meth!

Mr_Bub400ex
04-13-2003, 11:14 AM
gonna get us some action shots of it? lol:D

ChadEXer
04-13-2003, 11:29 AM
Heres some better pics of it I think. Hope to get some action shots this weekend!!

ChadEXer
04-13-2003, 11:31 AM
another

ChadEXer
04-13-2003, 11:32 AM
The pics are definatley better than usual

ChadEXer
04-13-2003, 11:33 AM
Last one. What do you guys think?

Glow Plug
04-13-2003, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Last one. What do you guys think?


i think that is the veiw most people will be seeing for a while :)


what's the deal the the shocks now are you just running bars? well that's what i looks like lol :eek:

250x#93
04-13-2003, 12:56 PM
So is that elkas new design??:devil Lookin good, You know its gonna be purty ruff on some bigger doubles though:devil


j/k

Rip_Tear
04-13-2003, 12:57 PM
Those pics are way better! Thanks Chad! To run Meth (which is alcohol right?) you need a high compression piston, and a diff carb? and a port job would be good? I am thinking about running alcohol, so I am just wonder at this point what I need to save up for. Thanks

MichaelS693
04-13-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Glow Plug

what's the deal the the shocks now are you just running bars?

its for people who cant afford drag shocks at the moment lol:D it keeps the front end down and keeps it from popping up at the start;) in drag racing of course:blah :muscle:

ChadEXer
04-13-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Rip_Tear
Those pics are way better! Thanks Chad! To run Meth (which is alcohol right?) you need a high compression piston, and a diff carb? and a port job would be good? I am thinking about running alcohol, so I am just wonder at this point what I need to save up for. Thanks
Yes Methanol is alcohol. Methanol is basically alcohol in its purest form, which is whats needed to run in an engine!! You are right about what you need to run alky, but remember alky can be a pain sometimes. The good part is it gives you a real nice power increase and it keeps your bike running real cool. The bad part is, first off, it can be hard to jet, alky can be a pain to jet and can be off from one elevation to another or one temp outside to another before gas would need to be adjusted. Also alcohol attracts water, you have to be careful storing it, keep it in a tightly closed container and preferably off the ground. it will also require you to change your oil more often because you will start to get a little water in your oil from the alky. Alky is corrosive therefore you dont really want to leave it in the carb over 12 hours, it needs to be purged. What I will do in this case is have a IV bottle with race gas in it and disconnect the line from my tank(with the alky) to the carb and hook a line from the IV bottle to the carb and run the races gas through it. It will run like crap(very rich) but it will run and get all the alky out of the carb. And also its a good idea to put a screw or tape over your line coming off the gas tank cap so moisture cant go through there into the alky! Also alky burns 25% faster than gas! So you can see it can be a pain, but for me the power and cooler running is a must, not to mention its only$1.90 a gallon compared to the $6.75 race gas I was having to run!

MichaelS693
04-13-2003, 01:38 PM
well said lol:cool:

Brad
04-13-2003, 02:01 PM
i take it you drag and flat-track

that thing must fly

400exrules
04-13-2003, 02:07 PM
hey Chad nice bike man, i love it. i wish you would come race down here so i could watch you and c how the bike does in person. The races officially started the new season last night (april 12). they race every saturday and occasionally have a mega bucks race which is like run by the atvdra and sponsered by honda and polaris i think. they have acouple of these during summer and into august and september. first place is like $3000-$5000, it differs depending on classes. and payout is all the way down to 16 place. check it out at www.springhilltrack.com
i would really like to see a 400ex show up al these banshees. plus theres a mean MEAN alky 250r down there that a local owns, i have never seen anything beat it. it just smokes alky banshees, its crazy.

Brad
04-13-2003, 02:26 PM
chad: you have to go down there and defend the 400EX name go onto that site click on photos and tell me what you see under 4 stroke winner








300EX

Chef
04-13-2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Brad
i take it you drag and flat-track

that thing must fly

No flat track for that thing...you see the swingarm? :eek:

Brad
04-13-2003, 02:35 PM
oops lol sry, jus drag

born-to-race
04-13-2003, 02:57 PM
My friend has a huge tank of methanol and I was riding there and I ran out of gas so I had to put methanol in it. My quads stock, will
the methanol hurt it?

ChadEXer
04-14-2003, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by born-to-race
My friend has a huge tank of methanol and I was riding there and I ran out of gas so I had to put methanol in it. My quads stock, will
the methanol hurt it?
If it does run it will run like crap!!

ChadEXer
04-14-2003, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by Chef
No flat track for that thing...you see the swingarm? :eek:
Actually they have flat track races here once or twice a year. its actually a car oval track but they race quads on it sometimes. The guy that has won the last 2 years in a row is a 350R with a +4 swingarm!! I havent ever raced there.

ChadEXer
04-14-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by Brad
chad: you have to go down there and defend the 400EX name go onto that site click on photos and tell me what you see under 4 stroke winner








300EX
Thats Cody Jordan on his TC 300EX isnt it?? Ive heard that there arent hardly any 400EX's that can beat that thing! The only one is Codys TC 490EX,,,where is his 490EX?? Damned TC builds one he!! of an engine!!!

ChadEXer
04-14-2003, 03:19 AM
Heres another decent pics of it before it was lowered, check this site out at the bottom of the page! http://www.gatorrunpark.com/Winners.html

Bretmd94
04-14-2003, 03:34 AM
About time someone made a drag four stroke with out it being a huge motorcycle motor. I thoguth abotu doing that for so long with my old POS raptor motor. YOu night want to think about making a lightweight frame, or buying one from Lonestar. Your goign to need to be as light as possible. Have you taken the front breaks off yet? I know a lot of people do that too.

ChadEXer
04-14-2003, 03:54 AM
Yes the front brakes are gone!! I plan to go with a lighter frame, and drag a-arms and tubular +6 swingarm here pretty soon, if money ever gets right around here!!

ChadEXer
04-17-2003, 04:19 AM
Does anyone know if 250EX shocks will bolt on a 400EX?? Im wanting to replace the struts with some shorter shocks that will give me the same ride height but give me some suspension!
Thanks

ZSK
04-17-2003, 04:37 AM
what about 300ex shocks? still sit too high with those on there?

ChadEXer
04-17-2003, 04:53 AM
Brokeitin3 measured his stock 250EX shocks and he said they were 12.5 inches in the front and the rear was 13 inches(bolt hole to bolt hole) Well the lowering struts I have on my bike are pretty close to 13 inches in the front and 13 inches in the back! So its going to be close, the only thing is that the 250EX shocks are 1/2 inch shorter, than the front stuts, and the struts I have on now are as low as I want to go, my a-arms are in a strait horizontal line. But I might could make them work. Anybody know the length of 300EX shocks??

Ryan
04-17-2003, 05:19 AM
Chad, 300ex shocks might be a tad bit tall. My Blaster shocks (front) are mesured at 14 1/2in, the rear is 16 1/2in. 300ex shocks are a tad longer (I think). Then again, when the shocks are compressed (which can be ajusted), you will probably be down to the same length.

Correct me if im wrong.

ChadEXer
04-17-2003, 05:23 AM
I think my best bet is going to be 250EX shocks. Only thing Im worried about is them being 1/2 inch shorter than my struts are now, and Im pretty sure that is the measurement off the bike without weight on them! I wonder if the 250EX shocks can be adjusted?

Ryan
04-17-2003, 05:31 AM
Im almost positive the 250ex shocks arn't ajustable.

knighttime
04-17-2003, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by Ryan
Im almost positive the 250ex shocks arn't ajustable.

ask TC to be sure :)

2k2-300exnj
04-17-2003, 07:20 AM
100% posotive 300ex shocks are exactly 13 inches long
because i got custom length 14 3/4 inchers for the front end set up i have

ChadEXer
04-17-2003, 08:19 AM
Does anybody have any stock 300EX shocks they could measure for me? I need measurements for the front and rear! Also If I could get some closeup pics of the shock mounts that would be sweet!
Thanks,
Chad

2k2-300exnj
04-17-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Does anybody have any stock 300EX shocks they could measure for me? I need measurements for the front and rear! Also If I could get some closeup pics of the shock mounts that would be sweet!
Thanks,
Chad
300 shocks will bolt right onto a 400 because a 400 front end goes on a 300 and u can use the stock 300 shocks or 400 shocks and they will fit but the 300 shocks are too short and the 400's are to tall....

Chef
04-17-2003, 05:28 PM
Hey Chad, how long are you willing to wait for a set of shocks? If I find a cheap set of used axis dual rate for my 400, I am selling my dual rate works....

Chef
04-17-2003, 05:33 PM
Heres the update for Chad on my R...:D

2k2-300exnj
04-18-2003, 03:31 AM
wow chef your R is coming aloung very very nicely let me kno when u are almost done... what do u have for motor work? and what suspension components are u using lonestar, rpm, whatever

chad u should have told me u needed thoughs stockers like a month and a half ago i would have sold u mine... or even my works i sold them both already though...
*just noticed the rpm sticker

ChadEXer
04-18-2003, 03:44 AM
Chef that R is gonna be sweet!! Did you custom order those Work shocks? Your bike looks to be sitting about the same hieght as mine. What size a-arms do you have?? Looks like your Houser stickers on your a-arms are starting to do the same thing mine are!! I really just want to get a cheap ole set of used 300EX shocks. Suspension quality isnt important to me I just want to have some,,those struts are rough as a mofo!! I was talking to Brokeitin3 about getting his 250EX shocks he said he would make a trade or awesome deal with me on them becasue he has no use for them, but the front on a 250EX are a little short I think. Im needing shocks around 13-13.5inches in the front. If anybody has some stock 300EX shocks laying around let me know. Man that Methanol made a HUGE difference. I never expected a difference that big, but we are thinking that I may still have been running way to lean on gas,,this thing is a pig on fuel!! I got out in my field and put the hammer down and I dug 2 ruts all the way up my field,,,in the grass!!! It pulls so hard it feels like my arms are gonna rip out of the sockets!! It feels to me like Meth added about 30-40% more power at least, and I was pretty much spanking all the 4 strokes on gas!! Cant wait to run it this weekend, if it dont rain,,,Ill even get some pics!! But I have to get some suspension ASAP, these struts are going to give me a hernia!!

DaveEX7
04-18-2003, 04:05 AM
Chad: How much money/hours would you say you have invested in that 505? I think I stil have a pic of ur 505 with yellow plastic:eek2:


Chef: That R is lookin NICE, what kinda racin do you do with it?

ChadEXer
04-18-2003, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by SpeedDemin85
Chad: How much money/hours would you say you have invested in that 505? I think I stil have a pic of ur 505 with yellow plastic:eek2:


Chef: That R is lookin NICE, what kinda racin do you do with it?
A LOT!!! Ive had blue plastic and red plastic, but not yellow!

DaveEX7
04-18-2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
A LOT!!! Ive had blue plastic and red plastic, but not yellow!

Ah my bad, when I hadda Sick Rides Post before.... you sent a pic of a yellow 505, i thought it was urs.

ChadEXer
04-18-2003, 11:57 AM
Huh, I dont know of a yellow 505? Matter of fact I dont know of any other 505's!!

DaveEX7
04-18-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Huh, I dont know of a yellow 505? Matter of fact I dont know of any other 505's!!


I coulda swore it was you who sent me the yellow pic that said it was a 505.... lemme look for it and il show ya....

DaveEX7
04-18-2003, 12:33 PM
You were rite Chad, this isnt yours...... and its only a 500 stroker..

Chef
04-18-2003, 01:49 PM
Chad, those are +2 Housers, but with the bike that low its like 53 inches or somethin to the outside of the tires. THe reason those stickers are comin off is because the first night out for those a-arms I hit another guy head on in practice, and either his front tire or front bumper ripped those up.

300ex, Its a PSI cylinder, RPM Swingarm, LSR Axle, TCS Shocks, Burgard A-Arms, and a RAD bearing carrier. Rath Sway Bar, and more shtuff. :blah

Rip_Tear
04-18-2003, 01:57 PM
Good luck with the shocks Chad! Chef make sure you post pics of that R when you are done! It is looking really sweet right now!

ChadEXer
04-18-2003, 02:13 PM
Chef, My Houser stickers are starting to look like that and I havent had anything touch mine! I believe Brokeitin3 is going to hook me up on his set of stock 250EX shocks! Im going to have me a +6 tubular swingarm made for my bike. Im buying the carrier housing from JJ and A Racing for $39 then my friend at the machine shop is going to build the rest of it out of Chromoly for like $100! Gonna cost me $139 for a +6 swingarm!! Plus the powdercoating which I also get very cheap!!!

Chef
04-18-2003, 02:18 PM
I'm gonna have a pretty decent swingarm on my Banshee here in the next year...it will go with the Sandragon drag frame ;)

ChadEXer
04-18-2003, 02:23 PM
Ive got a Sandragon +5 swingarm on mine right now and that mofo weighs a ton!! Thats why I want to get rid of it for a tubular lightweight +6!

Chef
04-18-2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Ive got a Sandragon +5 swingarm on mine right now and that mofo weighs a ton!! Thats why I want to get rid of it for a tubular lightweight +6!

They make a pretty trick aero tube design. It has 4 tubes actually, and i think one that goes horizontalle between them for the shock mount, and some that go vertical on the sides of it.

ChadEXer
04-18-2003, 02:39 PM
Its wierd, I know they make some awesome chassis's, especially for Banshees, but their 400EX swingarms could be used for a damned boat anchor!!! Its not that thier really any heavier than any other aftermarket swingarms, its just that I guess I expected something light from a drag chassis builder!!