Holeshot XCR

[MojaveKing]

any 1 have the Holeshot XCR?? thinkin of gettin um..and XCT up front....for the Mojave..or crf..someday?:)
welli was jw if any1 had um....thanks

[remlapr]

The xcr's are way smaller than the regular xc rears, even though they are both technically 20's. I would say at least a full inch in actual height and width from just looking at them. Guys I have seen either run xcr rears with xc's up front, or xc rears with the xct fronts.

[MojaveKing]

thanks.....any1 else...have um.......they are more for XC right? or what the good on..>??

[MojaveKing]

any else??:confused: :confused:

[methyman]

I have them on my TRX250R on a spare set of rims. I love them, they hook up great and they are actually smaller than regular 20 inch tires. They hook up on alll types of terrain. Best set of tires for all around you can buy. I use them to trail ride through the woods and noraml trails.

[cdalejef]

If your going to be racing XC then go with the XC's for the extra ground clearance.

[MojaveKing]

thanks...jeff...how about the XCT's for XC...??....

[MojaveKing]

question for all U XR/gncc racers.....i have seen in photo's that most riders are runnin Maxxis Razrs??
what tire is better for xc/gncc type racing.........ZHoleshot..xc/xct/xrc or Maxxis Razrs,razr II

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by MojaveKing
thanks...jeff...how about the XCT's for XC...??.... I ran XCT's on the front of my 250R and they worked great! I only run XCT's on the rear when its real muddy.

[cdalejef]

Originally posted by MojaveKing
question for all U XR/gncc racers.....i have seen in photo's that most riders are runnin Maxxis Razrs??
what tire is better for xc/gncc type racing.........ZHoleshot..xc/xct/xrc or Maxxis Razrs,razr II I have not run the Razor II's but I had a big problem with flats on the regular Razor's.
Holeshots seem to have better side bite than the regular Razor's.

[MojaveKing]

for XC/GNCC racing.....for tires i am thinkin of XCTS up front......and u said XC/XCR/XCT would work.............but for the ground clearance...get tha XC over tha XCR how about XCT???.......if u had to choose...out of tha back set...anybody....tell me what 1's adn why u would....give good inFO.......i dont need it NOW,....But in the future.....I will:D :) i will refeer back to this...when i am gettin tires....so it would help me out alot

[MojaveKing]

any 1......??

[cdalejef]

I would pick the 20" XC's because they handle better than the 22's. There are more dry races than muddy ones.

[cletusEX]

I would get the 20" xc's also. i race cross country and ran 20" xcr's. the xcr's are great tires it's just they are shorter and narrower than regular xc's or razr's. i would notice my skid plate dragging and hitting rocks when others with the xc's or razr's wouldn't have a problem. sometimes that little more height makes a difference.

[cdalejef]

Exactly!:cool:

[MojaveKing]

ok thanks......but i am thinkin of the 23's up front of XCT's and 20'z on XC in the BAck.........and maybe someday....XCT in the rear to......sound good????:D

[bradley300]

i run xcr's on the back and love them, the ground clearance isnt too big of an issue to me. (so what if i need to rock back and forth once or twice, twice a lap) i like the traction of the xcr's alot, i could tell the biggest difference over my old 20 inch shredders (i have never run xc's) on any muddy sections. any one behind you will hate your xcr's, they throw roost like mad (even on dry stuff).

i have run 23 inch front and didnt like them as much as 22's. i thought they rolled a little too much in the corners.

[MojaveKing]

how about the Xc or xct on throwin roost?? wet and dry

i have run 23 inch front and didnt like them as much as 22's. i thought they rolled a little too much in the corners. what u sayin.......ya i dont want to be to tippy in tha corners......xct or xc...up front?? size?? difference of xct & xc for Front?

[RIDER11X]

I run XC's front and rear and love them! I have 0 complaints about them. And you would probably do well to stay with a mid sized tire set up on a Mojave to keep power and not sacrifice the looks of your mid size machine. I don't want to run 22" rears on my 400 and sacrifice power.

[MojaveKing]

ic.....so get the XC...for the Mojave......xc rear....and XCT up front??? 23" xct or 22 xc up front??.....i dont want it to be to tippy...in the corners... thanksh

how about if i had a crf450.....really wouldnt matter for GNCC...i would prolyl get 23" XCT up front.(if not tippy) and xct or xc in the rear 20 or 22

[bradley300]

Originally posted by MojaveKing

what u sayin.......ya i dont want to be to tippy in tha corners......xct or xc...up front?? size?? difference of xct & xc for Front?
22 inchers in the front is what i prefer

[RIDER11X]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MojaveKing
[B]ic.....so get the XC...for the Mojave......xc rear....and XCT up front??? 23" xct or 22 xc up front??.....i dont want it to be to tippy...in the corners... thankshQUOTE] No, I was suggesting the setup that I run which is Holeshot XC's front and rear. (22" fronts and 20" rears) Handling is incredible with these. This same set up was also the one most often used by Barry Hawk Jr..

[MojaveKing]

23....XCT up front or 22 XC up front....?? for my Mojave.....
how about to tippy??? and 20 XC in the back........good set up.......23 up front to tippy ?

any 1

[MojaveKing]

any 1??:)

[Chanman420q]

my .02 which prolly wont me a thing to you guys, but i will prolly never get holeshots. other than the regualar MX ones. (18'') Maxxis lasts longer, and i read in dirtwheels, that on the new MXR's or what ever, after 4 races it was down to somethin like 60 or 70% tred. An numerious people i talk to all say, that they wont last that long, they hook up good, but the tred life is non comparable to that of Maxxis Razrs. I will prolly always run Maxxis razrs. I havent riddin holeshots so i dont know but after 4 races... and half the tire is almost gone? plus the price.... After my razrs die out im gunna get the Razr II's and see whats what

[RIDER11X]

Originally posted by Chanman420q
my .02 which prolly wont me a thing to you guys, but i will prolly never get holeshots. other than the regualar MX ones. (18'') Maxxis lasts longer, and i read in dirtwheels, that on the new MXR's or what ever, after 4 races it was down to somethin like 60 or 70% tred. An numerious people i talk to all say, that they wont last that long, they hook up good, but the tred life is non comparable to that of Maxxis Razrs. I will prolly always run Maxxis razrs. I havent riddin holeshots so i dont know but after 4 races... and half the tire is almost gone? plus the price.... After my razrs die out im gunna get the Razr II's and see whats what MX tire compound is way softer compared to an XC type tire, so that comparison is like apples and oranges. I get almost two seasons out of a set of Holeshot XC's with no problem.
And RAZOR 2's are very comparable to the Holeshot XC's just a different design. No flame, just trying to help.

[Chanman420q]

Originally posted by RIDER11X
MX tire compound is way softer compared to an XC type tire, so that comparison is like apples and oranges. I get almost two seasons out of a set of Holeshot XC's with no problem.
And RAZOR 2's are very comparable to the Holeshot XC's just a different design. No flame, just trying to help.

yea its just what i read tho, ive only had Maxxis because ive never really read anything good about Holeshots other than they hook up good... sometimes to good

[MojaveKing]

well....i gtg eat ...brb hahahahahaha... :D well i am back....and full..haha....well my question is...If i got 23" XCT up front and 20"XC in the rear....how would that be......Too TIppy for my Mojave....and it is kind of squaded low...anyway....for any quad would they be too Tippy..??
thanks
XC...a good tire...that slides alil and bits alot??

[RIDER11X]

Originally posted by MojaveKing

XC...a good tire...that slides alil and bits alot??
Oh yea!!!!! Perfect combo if you ask me. Get weight up front and you can spin around tight turns, lean back a little and they hook up hard!!!

[MojaveKing]

thanks....rider11x
the XC are a lil Bigger than tha XCR....what Wrong wit the XCR's?

and 23" XCT up front?? tippy?

[RIDER11X]

Originally posted by MojaveKing
thanks....rider11x
the XC are a lil Bigger than tha XCR....what Wrong wit the XCR's?

and 23" XCT up front?? tippy?
I can only give advice on the things I know. I never tried XCR's to give and pros or cons other than they are slightly lower. The same story holds true with the XCT fronts, only I know that they are obviously taller, and not many pros run them in gncc's. Sorry.

[MojaveKing]

Rider11x
man thanks...anyway...its Aight.. thanks for ur help anyway man


not many pros run them in gncc's. any 1...have an answer to XCT up Front.....being....Tippy or anything ON them????
thanks

[bradley300]

i run 22 inch xc's on the front and 20 inch xcr's on the back. 20 inch xc's on the back will also do well, its just a matter of losing a half inch of ground clearance for a little better straight foward grip and a little better sliding. the 23 inch fronts will roll over a little when turning before they grip.

my set up is 20 inch xcr's and 22 inch xc's. this is a great set up. keep in mind that most pros run a 22 inch front tire

[RIDER11X]

Yea, the XCT series was designed to be run with the fronts and rear at the same time. I have heard of another EXRIDER compaining of lazy steering with the 20" rear combined with the 23" front. Do a search of my threads and you will see a thread about the XCR's that may help you out.

[MojaveKing]

thanks Guys....ya i will do some Lookin on.....23" fronts..adn 20 rear...thanks........
i would like to get the XCT front and XCT rear but i want a 20 " in back in staed of a 22

[MojaveKing]

23 xct's up front and 20 xc or xcr on the rear??

how would 23 up front and 20s on the back be.....i dunno y 23 just to try something different.....
thinkin of 20s for sure in tha rear.......for now...maybe once get goin....get 22" XCT's for the rear....

[bradley300]

YOU WILL LIKE 22 INCH FRONTS MUCH BETTER THAN 23'S

[MojaveKing]

YOU WILL LIKE 22 INCH FRONTS MUCH BETTER THAN 23'S ok thanks man....but....Y would i....need to tell me y...its better??:confused: ...not pickin on u or anything i just want to KLnow.......

how about the Rear??

[cdalejef]

I ran 23's on the front and 20" XC's on the rear all last year in the GNCC series on my 250R and they worked great!

[MojaveKing]

I ran 23's on the front and 20" XC's on the rear all last year in the GNCC series on my 250R and they worked great! what 23's Up front??
how would they work for My Mojave??
thanks boys:D

[holeshot19]

asking how the new xcr fronts worked out. im going to test the xcrs on the no link bike and see how they work out:blah

[MojaveKing]

xcr fronts worked out. im going to test the xcrs u are goin to test the XCR....FRONTS??????


what 23's Up front??
how would they work for My Mojave??
thanks boys:D :D

[RIDER11X]

Did you like your Bandits on your Mojave?

[bmw500hp]

Originally posted by holeshot19
asking how the new xcr fronts worked out. im going to test the xcrs on the no link bike and see how they work out:blah

Fronts :confused: xcr :confused:

[holeshot19]

the new xcr front tires for xc they favor the mx tires but taller. santo and a few pros had them for the xc race in sc

[MojaveKing]

the ole Bandits............the fronts are liek....SQUAre! the rears...have alot of Rubber on them!!!! alot...man take a while to wear um done....This summer tho!!:D :D
just....and my freind migth buy a wheeler and i might sell him my tires....and buy holeshots and m,aybe 330 kit!!


what 23's Up front??
how would they work for My Mojave??
thanks boys:D

[MojaveKing]

23" XCTs Up front, and 20" XC in the rear.......how they work for MY MOJAVE???? thanks:)

[bmw500hp]

Originally posted by holeshot19
the new xcr front tires for xc they favor the mx tires but taller. santo and a few pros had them for the xc race in sc

Thanks...:D ...Really like the XCR rears, but never crazy about xc or xct fronts... anybody got a link to a pic of the new xcr fronts....:cool:

[RIDER11X]

Originally posted by bmw500hp
Thanks...:D ...Really like the XCR rears, but never crazy about xc or xct fronts... anybody got a link to a pic of the new xcr fronts....:cool:
Ditto! Must see these new tires!!!!

[cdalejef]

They look just like the MXR fronts only taller.

[RIDER11X]

What size are they? 22"?

[MojaveKing]

23" XCTs Up front, and 20" XC in the rear.......how they work for MY MOJAVE???? thanks
:)

[RIDER11X]

Do a search on my posts under steering and suspension and you will see a thread of mine titled XC vs. XCR. Read that as it has good info on XC's, XCR's, and XCT's.

[MojaveKing]

Jeff..........U said u used the 23"xcts up front and 20"xc rear??how did that work??
how would it work for me and my Mojave........xc or xcr's rear??

[Tommy 17]

www.atvsport.com

go there it has the new holeshot xcr...

someone said that they are 1/2 inch taller now then the old xcr in the rear bc they have more tread on them...

the rears comin in 20x11x8 9 and 10

the fronts comin in 21 and 22x7x10

both are 6 ply

i'm gettin the 21x7x10 soon as they come out...

[toby400ex]

i like my 22 inch front razrs , and 20 inch rears:o

[MojaveKing]

thanks...but i ride wit j-06 and jwisniew....from here and the got Razrz...21 front 20 back and i want something different from them..so thats why i am thinkin of Holshots...
thanks anyway tho

[MojaveKing]

well with.....23 xcts up front and XC or XCRs in the rear?? dont know which 1 for rear yet...Help??
it would Give more traction to the rear tires.......but would it be Tippy wit 23's up front??

ya...someday...maybe on the crf i will get the xct set up and the xc front and xcr or xc rear! both
but for now...1....so help me out fella's

[MojaveKing]

any1?

[MojaveKing]

in that other post...i seach under....it said the XCR have a lil more Punch when u rigth the gas....
and Jeff said...or some 1 said.....wit taller front tires....than tha rear it will give u more traction....to the rear........so...i am thinkin 23 xct's for the front and 20 xcr's for the rear?? good set up for GNCC racing...and ....messin around.......

would u gusy think it would be to TIppy like on the berms..wit 23s
and would it suck alot of power out of my Mojave.....prolly less in LB than tha Bandits??

thanks:)

[Ex'r Marlin]

The taller the front tire and smaller the rear, the more rear traction... If you have stock shocks, or shocks that you can not adjust your ride height. This may also cause your atv to push more in turns... Which maybe a negative.

I personally would recommend either a 21" or 22" front tire for your Mojave if you go with the 20" XCR's rears. I think the 23's would be a little too much. Again, my opinion.

Note: I saw the pictures of the new XCR front tires in either 21" or 22".... WOW! :D

[RIDER11X]

Where's those pics at? ITP said that tire was going into full production this week, so dealers should have them soon!:D Can't wait to see these!


They also told me that these tires will be available in a 21" and 22" height and will be 6 PLYS!!! All holeshot fronts up to this have been 4 plys. :cool:

[MojaveKing]

ya i have Stock Shocks.......doesnt really matter out of the 22 or 21 in front ??
ya...we'll see....but ya....i will prolly get 20 XCRs rear....then.....i duno what size xc for the front....21-22 difference??

thanks

[MojaveKing]

any 1 else got something to say about......23(F) and 20(R)????
Roll....to much in corners?? tippy??......Rollin in tha corners as...in?? what??

and that would work best for tha Mojave

[bmw500hp]

Mojave..

all being said dude... 21 fronts and 20 backs for you..for many reasons, all of which have been stated.

Man..somebody post a pic of the new 21's so Mojave and I can buy em...:D

[RIDER11X]

Originally posted by MojaveKing
any 1 else got something to say about......23(F) and 20(R)????
Roll....to much in corners?? tippy??......Rollin in tha corners as...in?? what??

and that would work best for tha Mojave
What do you look to gain by wanting to go with 23" fronts anyhow. Your lowest ground clearance is most likley your rear skidplate so, the heigth there with 20" XCR's is going to ditate that. In the front going taller means the center of gravity of the machine will be higher by approx. 1/2" which does however slightly takes away from your cornering ability. going as low as possible while maitaining enough clearance for most riding is usually best. I ran 21" fronts and they grab more at the sides of ruts and roots than the 22" tires. And, look at the pro's set ups. They spend many days testing products to see what works and what don't. Most Gncc pro's run 22" fronts with 20" rears in either a Razor or a Holeshot tire in mostly all conditions, and they race alot of deeply rutted trails where it is possible to get hung up but they use good line selection to keep them from getting stuck and using the shorter tires to help corner the best that they can.

Sorry to ramble on, but I,m trying to get you the answers that your looking for. This may mean nothing to you and you may just go with your personal preferance which may work for you.:cool:

[MojaveKing]

thanks RIDER11X and bmw500hp
but would there be...a big difference between 21 and 22 fronts....
thanks again....i dunno....ya...23 are still in my mind....i dunno y...:rolleyes: but ya...XCR for Rear.....for sure...or @ least 20s

[gncc400exxx]

check out the new xcr fronts and rears

[MojaveKing]

what size the Fronts come in.............
made for gncc style...or what?

[RIDER11X]

Mojaveking, are you reading the posts in your thread?:rolleyes: I give up!:D

[spincr4hire]

yeah, the new XCR's are sweet, gotta have:devil

[spincr4hire]

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[MojaveKing]

:blah :D hahahahhahahahah:blah :D
thank fella's..............um...........thanks for postin thos pictures...and what size are they comin In??? thankls:D

[spincr4hire]

fronts: 21x7x10, 22x7x10
rears: 20x11x8, 20x11x9, 20x11x10

[remlapr]

do those just have one main row of knobs down the middle aka razr's :huh

[MojaveKing]

ya....i saw those pictures...in school on Z400central!! loooks good.......and then i went to ITPTIRES.com and looked under New releases....and i read about them........
i like the XCR set up....dunno what size for front tho?? 21-22???
ya....finialy thinkin of XCR set...later...get the taller xct set but XCRS are sweet!! thanks fella's
21-22 fronts on Mojave:D
thanks:D :cool: