Sparks x-4 vs x-6??

[Giz400ex]

They say that the x-4 has better low end vs the x-6. I obviously have no experience to say if this is true or not. Looking for people's experience and opinions with the x-4 and x-6.

[sweet300ex]

i believe the x-6 is for more modified motors

[AC 400 ex 02]

im not quite sure but i think the x-4 is more for xc with the bottom end and the x-6 is more for top end on mx quads, dont quote me cuz i dont have any experience with sparks but i know for sure that sparks makes kick arse pipes

[Giz400ex]

So, if ya use a x-6, its design more for a 416cc and up but a x-4 is probably more designed for a stock or 406??? Ok, let me skip the B.S.!! I have 406cc with cam, 11:1 piston and will probably will boost it up down the road but I'm debating on which exhaust would suit me now!! Price doesn't matter because I believe there the same. I was leaning towards the x-6 but when I did my research, I found the the x-4 is comparable to the 6 but had better low end but the 6 had better top end!! What to do, what to do?

[Sportrax10]

I also read that the x-6 was for quads with built motors. I would consider yours built even if its a 406 so I say go for the x-6.

[Silverfox@C&DRacing]

I would also go with the x6 :p

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by Silverfox@C&DRacing
I would also go with the x6 :p Do you have the x-6 in stock??

[QuadTrix6]

go with the x-6

[Giz400ex]

Thanks everyone!!:D :D

[Silverfox@C&DRacing]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
Do you have the x-6 in stock??

I have on that is supposed to be here Thursday ;) Alond with a couple of degree keys

[RUFIO]

I have an x-4 (155mj) And i love it. Its rather loud but it give off GREAT power..way way better then the e-series i had on before it. I hear the x-6 is for more modded motors as said before, and give better top end, but not much more top end then the x-4, and the x4 have amazing bottom end power so I would say the x-4.

[AC 400 ex 02]

does anyone know what the x-4 db is and what the stock db is?

[DaveEX7]

OK now once I ask this, dont flame the hell outta me for bein dumb.......

What is bottom end, and top end?

[DaveEX7]

BTW, the X-4 is a slip on and the X-6 is a system am I correct?

[methyman]

Your not correct. The X4 and X6 are both full systems, header pipes and silencers. I had them both on my bike. I bought a X4 first then bought a X6 when I went o 426cc.

[jerry-89-250R]

i have run the x-4 since 2000 on my 440, so it's great on the built motors too

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by methyman
Your not correct. The X4 and X6 are both full systems, header pipes and silencers. I had them both on my bike. I bought a X4 first then bought a X6 when I went o 426cc.

Ahh my bad....... what did you think of each when you had them?

[Bean]

bottom end - mostly in 1-3 gears, in the low range of RPM's, where wheelies occur, and how your bike pulls off the start

top end - 4-5 gears, when the gas is pegged, and how it pulls there, and stuff

[SANDTRAX361]

i have the x-6 full system and a bone stock motor except for degree key and my rev box should be here next weekend. its very loud and works great. i dont think i would waste money on a x-4 just go for the x-6. im sure the x-4 is a great pipe but go with the best. why not? im sure there isnt much difference in the x-4 and the x-6 anyways.
later
Grant Snider
occra#361

[shamisc]

Go to sparksracing.com and do a search on X-4 and X-6 comparison. They now say that the X-6 has the same bottom as x4 but gives a noticable difference in top end. I had an X-4 and an X-6 with my stock engine and I noticed a big difference in the two. My X-4 HAD great bottom end but when I raced guys with White Bros. pipes and basically the same mods I had, they spanked me. My buddy ask me if I had ever thought that the pipe was the reason I was always getting beat. I just couldn't beleive it would be the pipe. So I thought about it for a while and then I bought the X-6. Whoa, man what a difference!! I didn't lose any bottom end torque and then when I raced, I was eating them White Bros. up!! Best decision I had made! The only thing bad I can say about the Sparks pipe (x-4, x-5, and x-6) is that the ceramic coating sucks $hiot!! If I had to do it all over again, I would get his stainless version. I'm on my 3rd pipe (1 X-4 and 2 X-6's) I've sent two pipes back to him b/c they would rust to hell in about a month or so. I sent my 2nd pipe to him in Feb. of last year and didn't get it back until late July! Needless to say, I had to buy a 3rd pipe in April while the other one was out. Now this pipe looks like it's 15 years old! There's not hardly any silver left, it's all rust!! I wash my bike everytime after riding so cleanliness is not the issue. I've talked to Scott at Sparks about this problem a number of times and he says send it back. But, I'm not going six months without a pipe and I'M NOT GOING TO BUY ANOTHER ONE!! I'm sending it to HPC to get it coated. It's going to run around $85 which is slightly more than if I would have just went with the stainless to start with. To make a long story short, if you're gonna get a Sparks, GET A STAINLESS X-6 PERIOD.

[dhines]

For what it's worth, I've been running my X4 ceramic for over 2 years in some of the nastiest conditions imaginable and it still looks quite nice. It has easily held up better than any other pipe I've used. Not sure what the story is - maybe their coating process has gone down hill since I bought mine...

[DaveEX7]

Is there much of a price diff. between the X-4 and the X-6?

[RUFIO]

Originally posted by shamisc
My X-4 HAD great bottom end but when I raced guys with White Bros. pipes and basically the same mods I had, they spanked me. My buddy ask me if I had ever thought that the pipe was the reason I was always getting beat. I just couldn't beleive it would be the pipe. So I thought about it for a while and then I bought the X-6. Whoa, man what a difference!! I didn't lose any bottom end torque and then when I raced, I was eating them White Bros. up!!

:huh :huh I raced a 400 with identical mods of mine (Him with an E-seris me with an X-4 and both with filer/jets/tires) and HE got "Spanked" so idk why you were loosing all the time with an X-4, maybe they had some other mods u didnt know of.

[RUFIO]

Originally posted by SpeedDemin85
Is there much of a price diff. between the X-4 and the X-6?

Sparks Racing TRX 400EX exhaust X-4 - ceramic $489
Sparks Racing TRX 400EX exhaust X-4 w/ spark arrestor - ceramic $549
Sparks Racing TRX 400EX exhaust X-6 - ceramic $489
Sparks Racing TRX 400EX exhaust X-6 w/ spark arrestor - ceramic $549
Sparks Racing TRX 400EX exhaust X-6 Stainless Steel $519

[DaveEX7]

then if both ceramics are the same price, why do people buy the X-4

[Giz400ex]

Anybody else have the same problem as, shamisc????

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by shamisc
Go to sparksracing.com and do a search on X-4 and X-6 comparison. They now say that the X-6 has the same bottom as x4 but gives a noticable difference in top end. I had an X-4 and an X-6 with my stock engine and I noticed a big difference in the two. My X-4 HAD great bottom end but when I raced guys with White Bros. pipes and basically the same mods I had, they spanked me. My buddy ask me if I had ever thought that the pipe was the reason I was always getting beat. I just couldn't beleive it would be the pipe. So I thought about it for a while and then I bought the X-6. Whoa, man what a difference!! I didn't lose any bottom end torque and then when I raced, I was eating them White Bros. up!! Best decision I had made! The only thing bad I can say about the Sparks pipe (x-4, x-5, and x-6) is that the ceramic coating sucks $hiot!! If I had to do it all over again, I would get his stainless version. I'm on my 3rd pipe (1 X-4 and 2 X-6's) I've sent two pipes back to him b/c they would rust to hell in about a month or so. I sent my 2nd pipe to him in Feb. of last year and didn't get it back until late July! Needless to say, I had to buy a 3rd pipe in April while the other one was out. Now this pipe looks like it's 15 years old! There's not hardly any silver left, it's all rust!! I wash my bike everytime after riding so cleanliness is not the issue. I've talked to Scott at Sparks about this problem a number of times and he says send it back. But, I'm not going six months without a pipe and I'M NOT GOING TO BUY ANOTHER ONE!! I'm sending it to HPC to get it coated. It's going to run around $85 which is slightly more than if I would have just went with the stainless to start with. To make a long story short, if you're gonna get a Sparks, GET A STAINLESS X-6 PERIOD.


Man thats gotta suck..... well thanks for lettin us know what one to buy.

[Giz400ex]

shamisc, I wish I had the answer to your problem!! Is there people that you ride with that have a Sparks exhaust also and did they have the same problem you did???

[flying400ex]

How does the sparks x-6 compare to LRD??

[Giz400ex]

Thats what I'm gonna try to find out!!! I already have a LRD and looking to try something new.

[flying400ex]

yea i am trying to decided between the two also

[AC 400 ex 02]

im seconding that decision, i've been looking around but havent been able to find out which is better and which one to go with

[Giz400ex]

If ya know that you really don't want a pipe thats really loud (compared to the Sparks) then I would choose the LRD. I have the older style LRD and I have pulled up to a Sparks and the Sparks is definitely louder than the LRD. Now, LRD has a different style now and it looks pretty sharp!!! Probably one of the best looking pipes out there now. The LRD is very much competetive to the Sparks and if I didn't have one already!! hands down, I'd go with the LRD!!!

[AC 400 ex 02]

alright thanx giz400, ive been tossing back and forth with the two and i want something with good power gains but not a huge amount of noise because i ride alot of trails around peoples houses and i dont want them complaining

[Red00Honda400EX]

Originally posted by AC 400 ex 02
alright thanx giz400, ive been tossing back and forth with the two and i want something with good power gains but not a huge amount of noise because i ride alot of trails around peoples houses and i dont want them complaining

If you don't want people to complain of the noise I'd say don't go with the sparks pipe. I have one and my buddy that rides with me lives exactly a half mile away and he can here me when I rev mine at my house if that tells you anything. ;) I have an x-4 btw only because I bought it used but it hadn't been on a quad yet and got around 100$ off. ;)

[AC 400 ex 02]

wow i knew they were loud but i didnt know they were that loud, i'd deff get complaints with the noise, some of the trails are near houses or right through the back yards and they are nice enough to let us ride through so i dont want to disturb them 2 much;)

[Giz400ex]

Don't get me wrong, the LRD is loud too but not as loud as the Sparks and the old style LRD. Everyone else I ride with has 2 strokes (250r) and haven't come across alot of 400ex's and these are the only pipes I know of, as loudness goes!!! I've heard a FMF PC-4 and that wasn't that bad either but there's a big difference between the LRD or Sparks vs the FMF!! (gain wise).

[honda_racer1]

can you you get the sparks ceramic powder coated, and does the stainless weight more then the ceramic?

[Giz400ex]

Not sure???:confused:

[Red00Honda400EX]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
Don't get me wrong, the LRD is loud too but not as loud as the Sparks and the old style LRD. Everyone else I ride with has 2 strokes (250r) and haven't come across alot of 400ex's and these are the only pipes I know of, as loudness goes!!! I've heard a FMF PC-4 and that wasn't that bad either but there's a big difference between the LRD or Sparks vs the FMF!! (gain wise).

Actually if you go here (http://www.atvnews.com/output.cfm?id=30961) and look at the tests the FMF powercore 4-2 put out more than the LRD full system on a stock EX. And the Sparks pipe put out 1.2hp difference (which when you're dealing with 26hp is a lot). I say the FMF is a good choice I had one and I liked it. It sounded a lot better than my sparks pipe does IMHO but you just can't replace HP with sound. (unless you're a ricer)

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by Red00Honda400EX
Actually if you go here (http://www.atvnews.com/output.cfm?id=30961) and look at the tests the FMF powercore 4-2 put out more than the LRD full system on a stock EX. And the Sparks pipe put out 1.2hp difference (which when you're dealing with 26hp is a lot). I say the FMF is a good choice I had one and I liked it. It sounded a lot better than my sparks pipe does IMHO but you just can't replace HP with sound. (unless you're a ricer) Keep in mind that the LRD exhaust they used is 2 years old and they've made a new style since then!! Its suppose to be a little better.

[AC 400 ex 02]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
Keep in mind that the LRD exhaust they used is 2 years old and they've made a new style since then!! Its suppose to be a little better.
hes got a point

[DaveEX7]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
Keep in mind that the LRD exhaust they used is 2 years old and they've made a new style since then!! Its suppose to be a little better.

Does anybody have a pic of the new style?

Or hasnt anyone seen it yet.

[AC 400 ex 02]

heres a pic of the LRD from K&K's site

[Giz400ex]

Go to the "For Sale" and you might have to go back a couple weeks but there's someone here that was selling a chrome LRD, new style!! Forgot the sellers name but can't miss the thread!!! He's got a picture of it, NICE!!!!!!

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by AC 400 ex 02
heres a pic of the LRD from K&K's site Old style, thats one I have now!!

[AC 400 ex 02]

o i wasnt sure if it was, i just saw it own K&K and thought they had the updated picture

[Giz400ex]

Try the 7th page in the "For Sale" ads!! Let me know if ya seen it!!

[AC 400 ex 02]

oo yes i see her! shes a beauty!:eek2:

[Brad]

Originally posted by RUFIO
I have an x-4 (155mj) And i love it. Its rather loud but it give off GREAT power..way way better then the e-series i had on before it. I hear the x-6 is for more modded motors as said before, and give better top end, but not much more top end then the x-4, and the x4 have amazing bottom end power so I would say the x-4.

do u have a 300 or 400EX?

im thinkin about gettin one for a 300EX

and do u have any motor mods

[Red00Honda400EX]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
Keep in mind that the LRD exhaust they used is 2 years old and they've made a new style since then!! Its suppose to be a little better.

I figured it was the old style but still thought the kid may want to see the comparisons done there. It may help him in his choice. :blah

[Red00Honda400EX]

Oh and an update on how loud the sparks pipe is. I was 2.7 miles away from the house of one of my buddies who rides with me and he heard me run the quad well enough he could tell how many times I shifted it. This is in the country too so its mainly wooded areas and fields. The pipe is loud and if you're worried about people complaining I'd stear clear.

[Giz400ex]

I just bought a Sparks and I'm wondering if a made the wrong choice?? I don't live in the country or anything but when my friends and I go riding, you hear everybody!! I live about 2 miles from the spot and I can hear the 2 strokes but can hear the 4 strokes alot clearer. :confused: :confused: