86/89 swingarm differences

[ESR250R]

i have a arens chassis with a hermann 89 length swingarm. i need to know if i can use the stock 86 hardware to mount the swingarm or if i need to buy the updated 89 hardware.

[racerx573]

What is this hardware you speak of? Do you mean the motor mounts that go in between the gap of the '86 swingarm?? '89 Frames only had 1 rear motor mount welded to the frame so I dont believe there is anything you can do to 'update' it if you have an aftermarket chassis and '89 style aftermarket swingarm.

[lil400exman]

i am with jas-o- on this but i am not sure pics and more info would be great........................;)

[ESR250R]

i am talking about the spacers. i set the swingarm up to the chassis to take a look at it and the chassis was about 1" wider than the swingarm. it looks like it needs some spacers i will get a picture for u guys too see in a few minutes.

[ESR250R]

there is about 1/2" space and i need to know if the 86 bearing traces will work and how to fill in this space.

[lil400exman]

shoot i have never really seen that before i get just make some strong steel spacers..................i am lost on how that happened though only thingwere different on 88-89 were the swing mounted to the engine but thayt wouldnt matter the fact there a 11/2 in gap between the 2................................that is just askin to get seized up................lol areu running a 86 frame? that might explain it......................:) :confused:

[ridered86]

your frame sure is pertty:D ...

[ESR250R]

here is the whole quad as it sits right now. i am waiting on the swingarm and i also dont have the front motor mount that was supposed to come with my new chassis:grr

[racerx573]

It looks like you dont have the dust seals and caps. Did you buy it used??

[seven]

You are missing the two steel end bushings that have to be pressed in. go to this link and look at part #9.
http://216.37.204.205/Honda_OEM/HondaATV.asp?Type=13&A=1&B=29

[ESR250R]

i have that part. i have all the parts from my 86 swingarm that were on my 86 250r. what i think i need is part #10 and 7 from the 89 250r. in the picture the swingarm just has the bolt through it so i could take a picture. i believe i need the inside collar #10 and the spacers that center the swingarm #7. btw no the swingarm isnt used it was purchased brand new from hermann racing. it came with bearings in it.

[stocktires]

EVERYTHING you need you will get from a Swingarm piviot bolt bearing rebuild kit (I forgot who makes it).
I switched from an 86 frame and 86 swingarm, to an 88 frame and 89 houser swingarm and the kit comes with all new steel bushing spacers, dust-seals, piviot bolt sleeve, and bearings.

What you are missing from what I can see is the steel spacer bushings, and the dustseals the go in between the swingarms and frame :cool:

[racerx573]

Pivot Works makes them.

[stocktires]

Originally posted by racerx573
Pivot Works makes them.

Thanx J, yea Piviot Works makes the kit and its top quality!
I got mine off of ebay