wider 400EX a-arms

[EX LONERIDER]

hey, im not too sure about who makes good a-arms, so id like to know if anyone knows where i can get a set including the tie rods, ends and ball joints of course at a reasonable price. im looking to go to mabe 2 inches wider, 1 inch forward set up?anyone have any suggestions???

[mental1]

burgard cycle, Houser, Hermann, and JDPerformance, are all pretty reseasonably priced and I've heard good tthings about each of them. I'm just to poor to buy anything now.

for a 400ex dont get +1 forward. get houser +2's

[nojoke4stroke]

in my opinion laeger pro trax is the best front end going for 400ex's and 250r's,they dont sell retail but you can check them out at ct racing,nacs racing,or baldwin motorsports.for a-arms tie rod and ball joint ends i think is like 740 + shipping.840 if you want chrome.oops had to edit this,those prices were for the standard laeger front end not the pro trax.the standard is still one of the best along with lonestar,roll design and the above mentioned by other users.

[EX LONERIDER]

with +2's will i need longer brake lines?? from the looks of it i think i might, but im not too sure. also, is there any preferable arms that will hold up better twards big air landings??? thanx

[quader400]

for the 400ex it is said that plus 2 a-arms give it the best handling. i am getting jd performance. my friend has them and says he loves them. yes you do need longer brake lines. jd is 495 with tie rods and ends.

[EX LONERIDER]

perfect. now i know i need them too.... so long as on the subject.... any suggestions as to what kinda shocks work best for dunenin'????

[QuadTrix6]

u dont need brakelines if u get regular plus 2's if u get plus 2 plus one or plus 3's then u need brakelines

[RiPPiNiTuP7]

Plus 2's do NOT need brake lines.

[QuadTrix6]

+2+0 :macho :D

[nick23]

+3 +0 :D :D :D :D :D

[QuadTrix6]

Originally posted by nick23
+3 +0 :D :D :D :D :D

i dunno if i would like +3's unless u went with a longer swingarm bc if u dont the quad is as wide as it is long and then it sux in the whoops

[EX LONERIDER]

yea thats true course i hardly ever have the front end on the ground when i go over them whoops anyways:D . i want to put in the front end for when i accidently hit one of those puppies wrong...... hit one wrong, you hit the rest of em wrong as well.:confused2

[nick23]

i do not really see what a longer swingarm would have to do with the a-arms at all acually...it has nothing to do with it

[forum]

+1 forward isn't always bad on an ex. same with +3 wide. With +3 wide you should run a 4-1 offset rim or yes you will be to wide and it could hurt the handleing in the whoops. The +1 Forward will give you better handleing in the whoops but cause you to have a wider turning radius. And on a stock 400ex +1 screws up your chassis balance. But With my 426 conversion. since I took some wheight off the rear end (no bettery light engine) and added a little up front (radiator bigger oil cooler and a arms themself) The +1's on my front end should even things out. I have the JRD Long Travel +3+1's and a Rp +1 1/4 Swing arm

[QuadTrix6]

Originally posted by nick23
i do not really see what a longer swingarm would have to do with the a-arms at all acually...it has nothing to do with it

when u get plus 3 a arms it makes a 400ex about as wide as it it long depending on ur front offsets. So ur quad is like a box so its not that great in the whoops. If u get plus threes u should get a longer swingarm so u r back to being longer then wider or u can get + forward a arms. Get it now?:cool:

[QuadTrix6]

Originally posted by Jnine
Hello Guys:

I know there are a lot of places starting to sell +3 A-Arms, but to tell you the truth I think it is better for the marketing person than the rider. Here are a couple problems.

If you run +3 arms, you can only run 1 type of wheel. (at least if you want to be legal.)

The bigger problem is, if you run +3 arms, your quad will be almost as wide as it is long... That SUCKS in the whoops! You want your wheelbase to be a little longer than it is wide, and it will track much better, straight through the whoops. Whenever you get your quad as wide as it is long and you charge into the rough stuff, you will start to hop around, and a rider on a little narrower setup wil beat you every time.

For that reason I never push a wheelbase to a full 50" wide.

Talk to you later.

I got this quote from another thread. I think he will agree too. :blah

[nick23]

Originally posted by QuadTrix6
when u get plus 3 a arms it makes a 400ex about as wide as it it long depending on ur front offsets. So ur quad is like a box so its not that great in the whoops. If u get plus threes u should get a longer swingarm so u r back to being longer then wider or u can get + forward a arms. Get it now?:cool:

cough cough...you guyz think this guy knows what he is talking about?

[kicker696]

he might not really, but i trust jon arens does!

[QuadTrix6]

Originally posted by nick23
cough cough...you guyz think this guy knows what he is talking about?

sneeze sneeze :rolleyes:

[Ryan]

Originally posted by nick23
cough cough...you guyz think this guy knows what he is talking about?

It makes sense :D .

[Sick0]

Why are dragster so long. beacuse they will go straighter.. Why do TT quads have really short swingarms? sBecause you want them to turn better. The longer something is the better it goes in a straight line. the wider some thing is the better it turns. Its a compermize between the two.

Originally posted by nick23
cough cough...you guyz think this guy knows what he is talking about?

I'd have to say he11 yeah I do...if someone doesn't,,then I suggest you use your left hand to remove your head from your rectume...:devil

i was hearing +3 were only better if your running long travel and then u have to run the diff offset rims

[forum]

the best setup is +3's with 4-1 offset rims. the handle bars get ripped outa your hands less when flying through tuff rut sections

[QuadTrix6]

Originally posted by forum
the best setup is +3's with 4-1 offset rims. the handle bars get ripped outa your hands less when flying through tuff rut sections

is there much bumpsteer ?

[hugh jayis]

this is great. i've been wanting to see a debate about +2 and plus +3's. i have only been riding quads for a little less than a year, but before that i rode motocross all my life. i started riding quads because of injuries. anyway, a buddy of mine races desert and mx on a 440 ex and the guy that sets up his bike uses +2's for the same reasons that these other guys are saying. another oe of my buddy's uses +3's on his bike and he has bent the **** out of his twice. i guess the longer arm has more torque on it and it bends easier. his arms were made out of chromoly by a good company too. i think i will prob. put +2's on my bike in light of all this.

[Chef]

+2 Housers

[Chef]

+3 Burgards