heim joint tie rod ends, anybody tried them?

[2001400exrida]

In some areas of the sport you may not want this particular mod, but I was wondering if anybody has tried the heim tie rod ends?

I recently got on a machine with some of these installed and the steering was nearly effortless. you could turn the bars with your pinky with these. Now, as i said some may not want this, but I've seen a couple machines with these and this was the first time i actually felt the difference.

Anybody have any experience with these? I'm thinking about ordering a set.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191034963897

[81dasher81]

i was thinking about doing that myself, when i made my a arms for my 400ex.. youre just going to need high misalignment spacers.. 2 per heim.. youre right, they probly arent the best for every application, but i like the idea.. it would be worth it if it would reduce arm fatigue even by a small amount

[Logan #34's Dad]

Check out the Walsh tie rod end:
http://walshrc.com/shop/hardware/123735-tie-rod-end-american-straight-left.html
The stud going through the hole is removable. You could put these in your idea and call it a day.

[Logan #34's Dad]

Check this site out...
http://www.mcmaster.com/#rod-ends/=qbsgb8

[2001400exrida]

i'm not sure that would work since it's probably made for walsh tie rods. has the threads instead of the inserts like what a stock tie rod end would have.

[honda250xrider]

Logan have you found where to buy the studs at? I have tried to find the studs for walsh's a-arms instead of buying it from them; the only place I can find is still relativily expensive at $20 a pop http://www.amstarmanufacturing.com/BallJoints.html

[81dasher81]

3rd from the bottom says $15 a piece.. i get my heim joints from ballistic fabrication, they usually have the best prices and best quality.

[Logan #34's Dad]

Logan have you found where to buy the studs at? I have tried to find the studs for walsh's a-arms instead of buying it from them; the only place I can find is still relativily expensive at $20 a pop http://www.amstarmanufacturing.com/BallJoints.html

I really have know idea on where to find those... looks like you did a good job of researching....
I just added my comment to address the posters spacing issues to make the ones he found work.

[2001400exrida]

are you guys able to find any that have threaded inserts instead of the bolt?

[Scro]

I had heims for tierod ends at one point. They are junk if you see any kind of mud/water.

[2001400exrida]

i wouldn't say junk because tons of guys run them these days. However, i don't think a woods racer would get much benefit from them. They are more common in MX or TT racing. They literally make the steering effortless and 10x's smoother.

[LxMxL97]

Are the atv heims different or something because on a custom 4-link setup on a truck, jeep, or bouncer the heims hold up very well and around here if you're not on the road you're in mud and Water

[2001400exrida]

most of the guys that bash the heims have mostly likely either had an experience with crappy ones or they have never used them. especially on the a arms and spindle mounts, roll design makes them on all their a arms and they are some of the best a arms that money can buy. MX guys run them quite often, walsh, roll design, and many other brands use high quality heims.