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1badcrf
03-19-2003, 02:31 PM
I know i shouldnt be asking this in a honda fourm but i was either thinking building a Arens ex/crf450r with all his componets and others top of the line basicly, and buy some used parts off ECA...

Or build a z400, as in top of line arms swinger axle and stem etc do the motor over and all....

i am most likely gonna go with the crf just wanted input of others... Is the z-400 that good of a quad... ******** said farr is selling his crfs for built z-400s:huh
Oh yea im looking to spend about 12000 and yes i can build a crf for 12000 with going some used parts....

What would you do.........?
03-19-2003, 02:35 PM
crf
Brad
03-19-2003, 02:37 PM
CRF
CHAUNCY
03-19-2003, 02:41 PM
Probably CRF
killed300ex
03-19-2003, 02:49 PM
tough call you could make a pimp z450 that i think would hang with a crf all depends on what parts you would get for the crf and z
killed
1badcrf
03-19-2003, 02:53 PM
alll arens componets if i go crf and leager or gibson for z.... i would like to also go alum... frame with Z later on ...... but i think the crf would be cool to just its not 250R based like all the other crf quads.. if i went that way i would go herrmann but thats like 16000 for a rolling:eek2: I wanted to cut cost a little
trx400ex
03-19-2003, 03:03 PM
well if you have any mechanical knowledge the CRF sounds like a better fit. But the z400 would be easier because you already have a quad and every part you need to start out with. I am thinking of a arens crf too, i just want to see one of his frames all bolted up on a quad with the crf engine in there.
EvilJester400EX
03-19-2003, 03:06 PM
CRF no doubt.
Moded86R
03-19-2003, 03:26 PM
I would go with the z400.It is already in a qaud frame.Has electric start and reverse.

Put a big bore/stroker kit and Aftermarket suspension,etc and it would kick arse!
03-19-2003, 03:29 PM
dont put a crf in a stock 400ex frame whatever u do....thats a waste of money
1badcrf
03-19-2003, 03:32 PM
no its aftermarket but stock 400ex geometry and all the other manufactures are 250r based(walsh houser leagers herrmann etc I know the crf has the power just dont know if the Z would be as good...
03-19-2003, 03:35 PM
i dont see how a z could be competitive with a crf , i dunno the drz bike isnt all that and the crf stomps it i dunno about a yoshi drz
1badcrf
03-19-2003, 03:40 PM
Thing is i would want to run a few nationals this year dont you have to bore a crf 450 down to 440 correct?
03-19-2003, 03:41 PM
i think so, id get a big bore and run the open class
03-19-2003, 03:42 PM
crf 450 for sure... god those are hot
1badcrf
03-20-2003, 12:20 AM
Thats what i had my heart set on,,, but what about the nationals?how much to bore it down?
Glow Plug
03-20-2003, 01:37 AM
go with the crf for sure you could always buy the quadshop's 440f (i think it's bored down not sure) for 13 k :)
Pappy
03-20-2003, 01:49 AM
the biggest fear i have with the crf engine in a quad frame is the tranny. i talked with several builders about this issue and it seems like they are divided 50/50 on it also.:(
AL81
03-20-2003, 08:39 AM
There is a Walsh 426 chassis for sale on ********,I heard the new yzf450 fits in the 426 chassis pretty close to the same
MrP
03-20-2003, 08:50 AM
1badcrf- If I were you, I would get a 300ex. More than likely you will never be able to use the power the crf has. You can have the baddest motor in the world, but you still have to ride it!
mrusk
03-20-2003, 08:56 AM
I gotta agree with Mr.P. If you gotta ask which quad is better, you seem pretty clueless in my mind. 1badcrf is clueless in my mind.

matt
AL81
03-20-2003, 08:58 AM
What class are you riding i woudnt even get one unless you were a "A"class rider or better
Honda4trax250x
03-20-2003, 09:03 AM
def. CRF