Got another 450r, slow build thread

[rollie]

After about 2 years out of racing and 1 year cometely out of quad's, and heavily into diesel pickups instead, i decided to think about picking up another quad, my good friend/nieghbor moved down south 2 years ago and he parted out all his aftermarket parts and had a stock 450r sitting in his shed, i made him an offer and here we are... The quad is an 06 with a fully guesseted and powdercoated frame, +1 stem, hot cams stage 2 and a 13.5-1 JE piston in it.

Here it is right after i got it home, ripped the graphic's off and threw the hood on it off my old race bike
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsbfee1540.jpg

The next morning i went back to my friends house and noticed he had some front hiper's so i picked those up, another friend hooked me up with the front rzr's, lookin like this...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsdf81654e.jpg

Headed to yet another really good friend of mines after i mounted that up to see what i could buy off of him! Haha, came home that night and slapped a thumb throttle on (came with a twist) rear dwt beadlocks and threw some old rzr's i had lying around on em, some CR high bends, made some AC nerf's fit off an 04, threw the stock jets back in it and ended up with this...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps6acd60fe.jpg

Just today i went to my local dealership and grabbed some OEM graphics, bar pad, oury grips, and a pro taper clutch perch
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps1c2f0cc7.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps5b6a42e2.jpg

Also went ahead and relocated my key...
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsef9fdac0.jpg

This is deff not going to be a fast paced build like the ones ive had in the past where it went from stock to national level in a month, this bike is meant for FUN and will probably be sporting the stock suspension until i find a smokin deal on walsh/pep. Either way im excited to have another bike in my garage to play with after work!!!

[Stickman400]

Lookin' good. Love builds that start with a bone stock or near bone stock bike.

[01boneless]

when I clicked on the title I said dayum I hope its rollie lol!! nice this will give me a reason to log on here !

[blacknblue#2]

you goin as extreme as your past builds or doing a budget build?

[rollie]

you goin as extreme as your past builds or doing a budget build?

I'm going to try as hard as i can to keep it mild and reliable....but it all depends on my $ sutuation going forward haha, eventually walsh/pep will be added...hopefully this winter, no real updates but heres a few pics of my past builds...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsacc79691.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsb19b28ca.jpg
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http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps86277bd0.jpg

[rollie]

As promised this build is slow!! So pretty much i decided to drop
Down to C class and race this bad boy bone stock, finished up 1-1 in production C and 5th in open C, it was fun beating some built bikes on a stocker, i rode the wheels off this thing!! but my back hurt after the race for litterally 2 weeks haha

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsa7aaf2e7.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps4c57b6fa.jpg

Decided after that race that over the winter i needed suspension, walsh/pep is just out of the question so ive decided to go a different route and going to try some new set ups, i scored these LSR DC4 a arms, axis rear shock and an LSR dc-6 link
For a song and a dance...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsef9570f8.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps38aa9788.jpg

Also scored an LSR subframe with no battery box, im going to convert to kickstart this winter, im
Planning on running the stock swing arm unless i can find a deal on a +1 LSR. Plan is to make the whole bike LSR/Axis, in the next month a buddy is selling me his front axis and then i will send them to hygear to be completely rebuilt and gone through, i have a feeling ill love these shocks properly set up just as much as my PEPs

I ran DC4 a arms on my 07 in 07 and i didnt really love them, this new set is off an 04/05 so i will be converting to those spindles, i think that will cure alot of what i didnt like about them on my 07 with 07 spindles, we'll see

Cool part is i dont have to powdercoat anything, which saves me alot
Of $$$

Also sent my resumè up to Steeve at FACTORY43 in Quebec and he is helping me out big time this coming season with nerfs, bumpers, seat covers and everything, he makes really awesome products and is a great guy if your in the market for nerfs or a bumper!
Thats all the updates for now!!!

[sand_blaster]

Any uPdates? This is gonna be goood

[scotturban]

Sweet.

[patrickj75]

If you decide to do some graphics send me a PM. I do custom graphics kits.

[2001400exrida]

Diggin the white frame on that thing, looks sharp!

[chronicsmoke]

Rollie say it aint so!! What happened?

[blacknblue#2]

Getting back out of it again?? I seen your FS thread and didnt want to derail it. I went thru this. Spent 3 years on a bike. Went back to a quad for 6 months and said F this, Im going back to a bike hahah

[chronicsmoke]

Getting back out of it again?? I seen your FS thread and didnt want to derail it. I went thru this. Spent 3 years on a bike. Went back to a quad for 6 months and said F this, Im going back to a bike hahah

I saw in another thread he had found some brass in the oil.. :(

Too bad that bike was really starting to come around for ya, Rollie!

[rollie]

Hey guys, i was going to get back OUT of it, and build my truck more but i was convinced to keep it, still not sure if thats the right choice....

I did blow the crank a few weekends ago, however while it was running the suspension felt awesome, a little
Soft for me but still good, i got screwed on the axle and found out in the air just how warped it really is, so ill have to find another :/

Money is tight as of right now so my plan is to start buying parts to rebuild the motor by the 1st of the year....

Here it is as soon as i got to the track, looking good lol

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsef709314.jpg

Aaaaaand about 5 laps in i was headed home.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps8382a59b.jpg

Got home and Had a HELL of a time getting the swing arm bolt out, ended up cutting it, and i was so pissed that i took the motor out too haha

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps3005cab5.jpg

Started tearing it down

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsea2329a9.jpg

Piston and cylinder are junk too

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps66910f0a.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps3d0a0ae4.jpg

The day after that all my factory 43 stuff showed up
Though, this stuff is AWESOME, fits perfect, and the nets came already installed, highly reccomend, hopefully sometime ill get to ride on them....

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps5832fe87.jpg

So thats it for now....im trying not to get frustrated and just sell it but we will see!!

[chronicsmoke]

I really like Factory 43 too.. They sponsor another Quebec (french) forum I'm on too. (shiftnrace.com)

Looks good minus the siezed crank, keep us updated :)

[rollie]

I really like Factory 43 too.. They sponsor another Quebec (french) forum I'm on too. (shiftnrace.com)

Looks good minus the siezed crank, keep us updated :)


Yep a good friend of mine bruno magny takes pics and helps run shiftnrace! Hopefully ill get up there next season some!

[DnB_racing]

Got home and Had a HELL of a time getting the swing arm bolt out, ended up cutting it, and i was so pissed that i took the motor out too haha

rolli I'm sure you probably know this, but if not

many times when a race harness is cut down some of the factory ground wires get removed,form the harness
Honda uses several ground wires to have low impedance to ground, when too many are cut out it creates high impedance to ground,
which in many cases creates oxidation at any point of contact, including the pivot area,
a moly coated pivot bolt will insulate the bolt from any transient voltage that causes the oxidation.
but the hidden cause is usually poor grounding...

good luck and I'm sure it will be back in no time

[rollie]

rolli I'm sure you probably know this, but if not

many times when a race harness is cut down some of the factory ground wires get removed,form the harness
Honda uses several ground wires to have low impedance to ground, when too many are cut out it creates high impedance to ground,
which in many cases creates oxidation at any point of contact, including the pivot area,
a moly coated pivot bolt will insulate the bolt from any transient voltage that causes the oxidation.
but the hidden cause is usually poor grounding...

good luck and I'm sure it will be back in no time


Good to know, thank you!! The harness will be cut down this winter and i usually pull the swing arm bolt out every so often and grease it, although like you suggested moly coating is something ill consider for sure!

[HondaRacing83]

Looks good. Love your truck dude

[rollie]

Looks good. Love your truck dude

Thank you!!

[rollie]

All the parts have been ordered and motor is completely torn down, should be assembling next week!!

[300ex13]

Rollie, for being a slow build, looks like you whipped it up quite fast lol! I checked out Factory43's website and I do like the F43 front bumper and the nerfs..I am looking to order both in the next few months, but I didn't see any prices on their page. Those products look like they're put together well and I wouldn't mind trying them out.

[rollie]

Rollie, for being a slow build, looks like you whipped it up quite fast lol! I checked out Factory43's website and I do like the F43 front bumper and the nerfs..I am looking to order both in the next few months, but I didn't see any prices on their page. Those products look like they're put together well and I wouldn't mind trying them out.

I am pretty sure JH Racing is a dealer, and NAC's racing will also soon be a dealer for them!!

Heres all the parts except all the kickstart parts i picked up today, motor will be put back together this weekendhttp://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsee3a48ff.jpg

I really have to thank my local dealer bettencourts honda, without the guys in the parts dept. i would never be able to get this thing built haha

[JH Racing]

Yes we are a dealer for Factory 43 the product is very nice and has been holding up great

[rollie]

Motor's coming together nicely!!

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps9ad699cb.jpg

[rollie]

Motor is done and in frame, picked up a sparks exhaust and got that installed today as well, im waiting on my DWT Champion in a box kit, my cut wiring harness, and i sold my lonestar front end and got some walsh that will be on soon!!

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps6a6d097b.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpse971a66f.jpg

[blacknblue#2]

that your quad thats peeking from the backside?

[rollie]

that your quad thats peeking from the backside?

No its a friend of mine nice enough to let me use their garage while my trucks in my garage for the winter haha that bikes a walsh/pep 520r

[rollie]

Not sure if anyones following this still but here are some new parts i picked up im going to install this week

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsa6ed0036.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsa8f5d5db.jpg

[01boneless]

looking good nick

[chronicsmoke]

2x

Love those walsh arms

[rollie]

Got everything installed and started it up, runs good!! Waiting on the hrc adjustable needle, bearing carrier and a leak jet to get it tuned up

I also ordered white plastic today, and i got some white powermadds still not sure if im going to run white or red plastic though :/

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsa6560659.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zpsc6f8223d.jpg

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http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps54dd53fb.jpg

[LxMxL97]

What happened to the hipers you had?

[atvridernc]

Build is looking good! Inspiration for my red 06' that is slowly coming along

[rollie]

What happened to the hipers you had?

I sold them to get the DWT's

[2001400exrida]

walsh makes some of the best a arms around man (regardless of what people say about heims), good looking build and you didn't spare any expense!

[LxMxL97]

I sold them to get the DWT's
Don't blame you I've had a good expirence with the set I've had but I still want try the hipers

[rollie]

I havent forgotten about this thread, i "raced" it 2 weekends ago at the monster jam show and it ran great, i am just waiting on my soastic graphics now

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps24c95d2c.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps531b7450.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps1611f62c.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/null_zps3dd1eb2e.jpg

[chronicsmoke]

Damn looks good, Rollie! :muscle:

[rollie]

So im not sure anybody follows this thread anymore but for anyone reading through, finished the build with some graphics....http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/66BC63AF-CE79-46ED-96A8-17689A8C7C40_zpsubus9wvi.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/66BC63AF-CE79-46ED-96A8-17689A8C7C40_zpsubus9wvi.jpg.html)

After its first race
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/3A41A136-BB0B-424F-BEA6-BA924C56BF67_zpszvgfpgoz.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/3A41A136-BB0B-424F-BEA6-BA924C56BF67_zpszvgfpgoz.jpg.html)

After the first race i decided to cut up my fenders, not everyones style but i grew up watching the guys on 250r's and they all had cut fenders haha
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/73EC6BEC-F8A6-45B2-8BA7-157375EC4537_zpsmb1hi9zf.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/73EC6BEC-F8A6-45B2-8BA7-157375EC4537_zpsmb1hi9zf.jpg.html)
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/EFC9269A-12F5-4E7A-80E9-D59A3AF53481_zpseeceerf2.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/EFC9269A-12F5-4E7A-80E9-D59A3AF53481_zpseeceerf2.jpg.html)

After the second race, my valves were no
Good, of course the one thing i didnt replace when i rebuilt the motor, dropped it off at 834 motorsports and casey had new seats cut and replaced all the valves/springs/guides, starts first kick and runs great now!
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/97EE3559-D348-4A11-8A6A-91B4B3DD62BC_zpsuwuawmqq.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/97EE3559-D348-4A11-8A6A-91B4B3DD62BC_zpsuwuawmqq.jpg.html)

Now some riding pics!
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/01878E15-829A-4D61-A2DD-E0796D735919_zpskawfe1us.png (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/01878E15-829A-4D61-A2DD-E0796D735919_zpskawfe1us.png.html)
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/A4F48A38-C89F-4546-8A7D-DE7CBD67DAE8_zpscjuia3ui.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/A4F48A38-C89F-4546-8A7D-DE7CBD67DAE8_zpscjuia3ui.jpg.html)
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/B756D275-2727-460A-893C-FB082305327F_zps5wzltta2.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/B756D275-2727-460A-893C-FB082305327F_zps5wzltta2.jpg.html)
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/10C14E8E-4A5E-4727-B092-AE2C86B18485_zpscv6lnuay.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/10C14E8E-4A5E-4727-B092-AE2C86B18485_zpscv6lnuay.jpg.html)
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/EEC2319B-6C6B-43FD-99CD-0C3E630CED7A_zpsgfksofta.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/EEC2319B-6C6B-43FD-99CD-0C3E630CED7A_zpsgfksofta.jpg.html)
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/rollie51/65186921-236A-4FE3-B365-071BFD761ACB_zps0pjckb3p.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/rollie51/media/65186921-236A-4FE3-B365-071BFD761ACB_zps0pjckb3p.jpg.html)

Thanks for looking!

[CJM]

damn thats sweet looking!

[Stickman400]

Looks really good. Graphics always improve the whole quad, especially full wraps like Spastic and SSI do. My valves are getting worn too, I have to adjust them every year or it won't start for ****, and I only ride it for 3 or 4 15 minutes races a year. So 1 hour of racing and it decides it doesn't want to run anymore.