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450exrider
03-17-2003, 08:27 AM
this is my first time here, i love th forums will my 450ex beat a raptor my mods are below and i dotnt think those are all of them either, thanxs for replying Bye

Extremeracer167
03-17-2003, 08:30 AM
well since you only have a 440 kit, and its not stroked, then its hard to say. I have some of TCs finest internals in mine, and it will pull SLIGHTLY on a stock raptor. But if the craptor has any mods, i dont have a chance. But my old mans 465 would eat one no doubt. It will keep right with a 310R

Extremeracer167
03-17-2003, 08:31 AM
oh and y do u call it a 450? Its only a 440

450exrider
03-17-2003, 08:36 AM
i call it a 450 cuas its bored 60 and over and i rounded it its like a 445 or soemthing!

Extremeracer167
03-17-2003, 08:47 AM
is it posible to bore a 400EX cylinder over 440:huh

honda250xrider
03-17-2003, 08:53 AM
i call it a 450 cuas its bored 60 and over and i rounded it its like a 445 or soemthing!


i think what he is talkin about is that he only has his bored .60 over, which that will not give u 440cc's it will probly only give u a few more cc's over stock, what you do to find out the cc's is bore * bore * stroke * .0007854

deathman53
03-17-2003, 10:32 AM
no, to go to a 440, you need to resleave. your 400 is a 412 or so. how big of a piston do you have, I know a 440 piston is 89mm in case you didn't know here is the formula to figure out cc's raduis(half diameter) squared x 3.14 x stroke x .001
so for your 400 to be a 445 you need to have a piston that is 90mm, that is HUGE. with that big of a piston, your rod will wear quickly and say good by to your cluth basket. I know that 40 over is a 406 and 80 over is a 416.

honda400exrider
03-17-2003, 10:42 AM
i thought that like 416s could beat raptors?:huh :huh thats pretty fudged up :p lol

Leo
03-17-2003, 10:44 AM
At the drag races last year the fastest quad was a built LT500..

The second fastest quad was his brothers built 440 (sparks I believe).. nothing to wild just a piston / cam / exhaust..

Don't know the length of the track but I was just hitting 5th at the lights w/ a 14 tooth sprocket + 20 in. tires. The surface was a mix of walsonite and clay (fairground horse track).

He was easily beating stock raptors / shee's, beating the modded shee's and raptors also (although not quite so easily).

The 2-strokes were having a tough time hooking up on the clay.. (except the LT500 that thing was just SICK)..

It could have been rider ability (he had killer reaction times).. I had the misfortune of racing him in the second heat and getting spanked :)

Leo

bansheeman_95
03-17-2003, 12:48 PM
i have a craptor with graydon pipe in need of a rebuild that gets beat by my friends stock 400ex.

oldnumberseven
03-17-2003, 12:50 PM
My 465 smokes my well built 660r:)

Ralph
03-17-2003, 12:53 PM
a stock 400ex will beat a craptor anywhere it matters, meaning not on the drag strip cause honda isnt building a quad that is meant to drive in a streight line.

bansheeman_95
03-17-2003, 12:55 PM
i was talkin bout straight line paved drags. if the drag is a long one the craptor will win cause the 16/18 gearing.

03-17-2003, 01:18 PM
could a 416ex with a cam/pipe/filter/jet kit have more POWER than a raptor?

bansheeman_95
03-17-2003, 01:21 PM
ur 416 is prolly makin around stock raptor hp. but ur power to weight ratio is alot better than the raptors. do u have porting too??

bansheeman_95
03-17-2003, 01:22 PM
well, prolly a little less than 38 hp

3x440ex
03-17-2003, 02:03 PM
i think what he is talkin about is that he only has his bored .60 over, which that will not give u 440cc's it will probly only give u a few more cc's over stock, what you do to find out the cc's is bore * bore * stroke * .0007854

what this guy meant was his 440 big bore sleeve was bored .60 over.;)

stroked300ex
03-17-2003, 03:44 PM
A 465 curtis sparks stroker running 39mm alky carbs will do the trick.. Will beat a raptor on start off as well as on mid and top end. ..

since you were runnin a 440.. the raptor will get it.. sorry to say.
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twisted threads
03-18-2003, 07:57 AM
In drag races at the dunes my 440ex with beat stock and piped raptors all day long one after the other. The ones with some $ put in them are close races but I dont really care its all fun.:D I did get my but kick when I raced a 770 raptor one day at Coos Bay:o but so was every one else.:cool: If I have to much trouble I will go get my R:macho :cool: