Hubs will NOT stay tight.

[Zakradu398]

I've tried everything to keep my rear hubs tight. The last and most effective way I tried was RED locktight and a 3ft breaker bar to tighten.

Just checked now and they are loose after maybe an hour riding. Any other ideas.?:confused:

[blacknblue#2]

I gave up on trying to keep hubs tight on a honda years ago. I gave myself a tolerance basically lol. Ill jack it up once every few rides and see if its looser than my tolerance likes for them to be. If they are then ill snug them up. They are usually loose again once i pull out of the garage.Ive heard of guys using shim stock behind the hub as a "crush washer" to help keep them tight but i think the only right way to do it is new hubs and an axle. I think its in the spline wear that causes it. Even buying all new stuff if its aftermarket stuff you still might be in the same boat depending on the machinist than ran the parts.

[Stickman400]

I had the same problem with my Durablue axle and stock hubs. I have a 2ft. breaker bar that I would pretty much stand on until I would turn the motor over and then stick a hitch pin style clip in so I wouldn't have to mess with those stupid cotter pins and they still got loose after 1 or 2 rides. Only thing I didn't try was an impact, but I didn't want to ruin my threads so I just dealt with it.

[Matt150]

I've raced the 400ex and 450r with Lonestar and RPM they both did it with stock hubs.Not sure if aftermarket hubs stop it. Just keep tightening them every few rides. Use a good impact and they will stay tight alot longer. No need to worry about pulling out threads. Use the hitch pins not cotter pins.

[CJM]

Use an impact gun and blue loctite.

Hit it with the impact and make it fairly tight. Then put the cotter pin in and hit it with the impact again or a large wrench or such and bend the cotter pin in there.

It only comes loose on me after about 20 rides this way..maybe more IDK.

[400man]

I have used a plastic bag and cover the end of the axle spines, then slide the wheel hub over it. it helped take some of the play out of it from the splines being worn. it would usually last for several long rides.

[hondaREX]

ive had only hondas for 15 years and have never had a problem. Ive done it many ways. A breaker bar with a cheater pipe, someone locking up the rear brakes AND a loader bucket pinning the wheel down. That was back years ago. Use an impact with the most success. Hit it till it stops. Never had to us locktite. And this was mostly on a 16 year old 250r. I try 2 get the cotter pin in as tight as i can. I go a season without it needing 2 b touched unless im doing my bearings.

[powerbomb400]

I use a Impact gun like CJM. Torque them babies on and I use a cotter pins. I even put anti-seize on my splines and threads. Did have a couple loosen up on the wife's 250ex but I hit then castle nuts with the impact gun again and took care of the problem.

[AtvKid4Eva]

If you use An actual cotter pin and wedge it in there good, there's No way the hub can loosen without shearing the cotter pin off

[Stickman400]

I've had several cotter pins get bent in the castle nut when the hub tried backing off and the cotter pin stopped it. But not before it bent the pin halfway over. They were a PITA to get out. That's the main reason I started using hitch pins, they WONT bend or break, they may get slightly tight and may be alittle difficult to get out put all you have to do is get a pair of vise grips and start tugging. As opposed to getting a pair of wire clippers and a small punch and spending 30 minutes trying to get all the pieces out when the cotter breaks into 10 little pieces.:mad:

[Scro]

I used hitch pins also. But after having one knocked out, I always put a ziptie around the end.

[Drifterboy3]

I torqued them to 105ftlbs and ran tie wire though about a year ago and they are still tight

[crazya**400exer]

Dont use conder pins or whatever they will screw with your threads when they try to work out mine did and i had to gt new nuts

[MtnEX]

What size hitch pins?

[buck440]

after a wheel came off i welded them. you could still grease the carrier and do maintenance. it's such a relief once they were welded on.

[Zakradu398]

Originally posted by buck440
after a wheel came off i welded them. you could still grease the carrier and do maintenance. it's such a relief once they were welded on.

You change carrier bearings how?

[DragonGunner]

Originally posted by Zakradu398
You change carrier bearings how?


Ah....what? LOL!! You see you would just torch them off and then reweld them. Hopefully they are just tacked on.....?

I use the pins and either ziptie or usually just twist some wire around so they don't come off.

[quadmanw]

take a breaker bar and a 8 foot pipe. tighten the he11 out of it

[quad2xtreme]

I've never had a hub come loose. I torque to 108 lbs with the torque wrench then use the impact wrench to turn it more until the hole lines up for putting the cotter pin in. If the hole is already lined up then I force it to the next one.

[buck440]

Originally posted by Zakradu398
You change carrier bearings how?

i put new bearing in before i did that. it's not a permanent fix but it buys you a lot of time.

[Zakradu398]

I suppose, but I went through 3 double row bearings and a stock set this year...

[quadmanw]

How is that even possible? I put a lonestar dual row in 2 years ago and have one race season in on it and theyre still good

[Scro]

Originally posted by Zakradu398
I suppose, but I went through 3 double row bearings and a stock set this year...

That seems right. I would usually get a couple months out of a set.

[Zakradu398]

Idk, I mean I don't hold back on the hundy. Just beat the piss out of it so that could be why. Ride a lot of slate too and when it's wet it can tear ish up.

edit: I usually ride probably 10 hours or more a week.

[quadmanw]

I guess it seems right then.. I used to change them every couple of months with the stock carrier.. the lonestar hasnt been changed yet.. and i know i'm cursing myself saying that lol

[Zakradu398]

I actually go through bearings faster if I grease the carrier through the zerk a good bit.

[powerbomb400]

What kind of grease are you using. I use a Moly based and I'm on the same set after a year if use. I grease mine every ride but just till the handle gets stiff. Don't want to blow the seals out.

[Zakradu398]

Originally posted by powerbomb400
What kind of grease are you using. I use a Moly based and I'm on the same set after a year if use. I grease mine every ride but just till the handle gets stiff. Don't want to blow the seals out.

It's a marine based grease. My dad has a boat shop so I use it on all my bearings.