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skullracer34
03-10-2012, 08:57 PM
I'm building a 460ex... does anyone know if the stroker 460 is better than the 91mm bore stock stroke 460?

JOHNDOE83
03-11-2012, 06:32 AM
yes the 460 stroker would be the best bet, although it will cost more money.

HondaRacing83
03-11-2012, 08:20 AM
put your money towards suspension

trailrider894
03-11-2012, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by HondaRacing83
put your money towards suspension

x2 or just buy a 450... By the time you dump a few grand into this build, you could bought a newer 450r and a good set of graphics or something. Its a waste of your time bro, don't even bother.

skullracer34
03-11-2012, 09:41 AM
There is no 450r around here that has been even close to my 440ex but the guy to beat has a 460ex stroker...I found a really good deal on the parts to build a stock stroke 460 that's a 91mm bore with stock stroke but I am gonna have to split the case regaurdless cause I don't think the stock rod will handle that just didn't know if there would be a differ. In the two

250xfreak
03-11-2012, 12:46 PM
I have a 460 stroker bottom end I am looking to sell, got it as an extra with a quad I bought. PM for a price if your interested.

skullracer34
03-11-2012, 01:31 PM
4238238003 call me

TheAwesomehonda
03-11-2012, 02:45 PM
What compression will you run? How do you keep the motor cool?

skullracer34
03-11-2012, 03:24 PM
12.5-1..... spal fan

trailrider894
03-11-2012, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by skullracer34
12.5-1..... spal fan

I'm not trying to fight with anyone, its just the truth... A 460ex stroker with bolt-ons will get you to maybe 45hp?? and that would be a great improvment...

'08 450r has 42hp, so with a few bolt on's your already above that... See my point??? the average 450r is going for 2500$ around here... So a grand in parts, you'll have to spend atleast 100 or 200 in cooling parts, you'll have to run high octane fuel, you'll need a different crank, sleeve, piston, then probably gonna need to do some porting and things, a cam, and most stroker cams need hardened rockers, then you'll need stiffer valve springs, HD Studs, all new gaskets your down 2000 bucks by now... So for all that you coulda sold your 400ex and bought a 450r which with the extra cash you could put a HRC Kit with a Slip-on and a Filter and you would be 50+ HP... get my point???? I own a 400ex, I love the thing, I would never dis the bike itself, just saying that in all reality if your looking for power, get a new bike... Your gonna sacrifice all reliablilty with that setup anyway.

trailrider894
03-11-2012, 04:07 PM
Forgot about the HD Cam Chain and New Tensioner for it... Cause you'll need it!!

chevymanrick
03-12-2012, 02:00 PM
I agree with trail rider, the 400 is great and is never get rid of mine but with the parts, blood, sweat and tears your gonna put into it I think u might be alittle disappointed with the outcome compared to a 450 with a few bolt ons would do for you, like he said good be throwing away what the 400ex is known for, reliability..

skullracer34
03-12-2012, 03:45 PM
In all honesty I wouldn't have a valve eating 450 the bikes to beat around here are 460 exs all the 450s here rev good and have fairly quick throttle response but I'm not into replacing valves every 5 races to much maintenance for me but thanks for your input

CJM
03-12-2012, 03:49 PM
All my friends ride 450s and none have had valve problems.. fyi

storms400ex
03-12-2012, 05:32 PM
my buddy has a stroked 450r honda and never had any problems with the valves!!!!!

chevymanrick
03-12-2012, 05:40 PM
I have an 06 450 dirtbike with nearly 80 hrs and never a valve issue its only been rebuilt once with new piston and rings that things a beast! starts first kick and pulls hard through every gear! Been very reliable

400exshop
03-12-2012, 06:17 PM
I see you not to fare away from where i am. do yall do any drag racing, like 1/8 mile or 300 foot dirt?

If so ill come up there with two of my bike's, a 426 and a 440.

And if your's or any one up there's 400 out run one of mine ill give the bike to you.

befor any one jumps in i will take the nos off the bike. The reason im putting it out there like that is, it dont take a 460 to be fast.

We beat up on 460's all day long with the lil motor's. You just have the set the bike up right to be fast.

How many time have you built a bike? And with the bike's that you have built or had built, how many have been on a dyno?

trailrider894
03-12-2012, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by CJM
All my friends ride 450s and none have had valve problems.. fyi

X2 All of my buddies have never had valve problems...

trailrider894
03-12-2012, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by 400exshop
I see you not to fare away from where i am. do yall do any drag racing, like 1/8 mile or 300 foot dirt?

If so ill come up there with two of my bike's, a 426 and a 440.

And if your's or any one up there's 400 out run one of mine ill give the bike to you.

befor any one jumps in i will take the nos off the bike. The reason im putting it out there like that is, it dont take a 460 to be fast.

We beat up on 460's all day long with the lil motor's. You just have the set the bike up right to be fast.

How many time have you built a bike? And with the bike's that you have built or had built, how many have been on a dyno?

With english like that, I think I found your mugshot!!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__Y7Xh3LOr_U/SwmR93vkB5I/AAAAAAAAAdM/b5Ulz9FZu_4/s1600/mug_shot%5B1%5D.jpg

400exshop
03-12-2012, 08:05 PM
Sorry it's not up to your stander's.

alot of time's i forget im not texting or im typing to fast and dont take the time to check my spelling.

Glad to see that was the only thing you could point out.

I bet you feel good about your self now. Way to go!!!!

At the ned of the day you still not as smart as me, on build any thing.

So thumbs up to you pal......

Now run along little one and see if the is someone eles to make fun of so it will make you feel big about your self...

ps, to the guy that started the post sorry for high jacking your post, What i was getting at is it dont take a big motor to bet another big motor.

It just take a well tuned motor to pull down a butt wippen.

400exshop
03-12-2012, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by trailrider894
With english like that, I think I found your mugshot!!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__Y7Xh3LOr_U/SwmR93vkB5I/AAAAAAAAAdM/b5Ulz9FZu_4/s1600/mug_shot%5B1%5D.jpg

Hummmm , does this fall under as bashing? cutting some one down? but its ok cuz i dont let it get to me.

But, i do reply back when it happen's.

trailrider894
03-12-2012, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by 400exshop
Hummmm , does this fall under as bashing? cutting some one down? but its ok cuz i dont let it get to me.

But, i do reply back when it happen's.

Hey man i'm all with you on the well tuned motor thing, I'm not bashing your opinion, just havin some fun. Its a joke man, you just gotta roll with it and keep it goin. You can poke fun at me all you want, these forums have to remain comical and lively so we all don't get to serious.

I sincerely apologize if I offended you with my comments and photo... I get that it can be offensive, but again, if you've been around here long enough you would get that i'm not the kind that is tryin to hurt people.

I apologize to the thread starter, I guess our point is that its best to weigh out your options, whether it is better to just buy a 450r or do the 460ex or just go a little more finely tuned like 400exshop suggested ( which I agree with )... In the end it is up to you!!

Again, hope nobody is gonna hate me for just jokin around... :chinese:

400exshop
03-13-2012, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by trailrider894
Hey man i'm all with you on the well tuned motor thing, I'm not bashing your opinion, just havin some fun. Its a joke man, you just gotta roll with it and keep it goin. You can poke fun at me all you want, these forums have to remain comical and lively so we all don't get to serious.

I sincerely apologize if I offended you with my comments and photo... I get that it can be offensive, but again, if you've been around here long enough you would get that i'm not the kind that is tryin to hurt people.

I apologize to the thread starter, I guess our point is that its best to weigh out your options, whether it is better to just buy a 450r or do the 460ex or just go a little more finely tuned like 400exshop suggested ( which I agree with )... In the end it is up to you!!

Again, hope nobody is gonna hate me for just jokin around... :chinese:

No big deal trailrider894 we are all good, but there are some people on here that love to make fun other people and put them down.

And when you put them in there place they cry and have you ban from the site.

I will say your right about having fun with the post, its good to have a ( lil ) or little trash talking time to time, as long as the one that dont like it pm's you befor thay report you.

LOL but thats not me its my pop's ( ha ha ha ha )

trailrider894
03-13-2012, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by 400exshop
No big deal trailrider894 we are all good, but there are some people on here that love to make fun other people and put them down.

And when you put them in there place they cry and have you ban from the site.

I will say your right about having fun with the post, its good to have a ( lil ) or little trash talking time to time, as long as the one that dont like it pm's you befor thay report you.

LOL but thats not me its my pop's ( ha ha ha ha )

ha ha good stuff, not to throw this any further to pot, but I found this today on google.... No pun's intended to anyone, its justs a funny picture!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/junnibug/4568312713/

odog
01-06-2013, 07:21 PM
so what did you end up going with.