Those in The Military

[kyleschonert]

For those of you in the military, I have a rather general question.

I currently work in the Ag field, I enjoy Agriculture and scouting fields, but there is to much down time for me and the area I am in is drastically changing. My position will be almost useless in the next 5-10 years due to all the oncoming changes and advancements in Ag. Or I will hardly have anything going on 8 months out of the year. Not to mention what I get paid for the hours I work and for my Bachelor's degree. Finding it hard to weigh out....

What are some MOS's out there where I could go work for a Power Plant or any other type of work as that. From careers similar to Engineering to IT, Logistics, etc...

I am not planning on it right now, but am considering it in the future. I would be doing this for career skills, so keep that in mind before you recommend I go sign up for MOS 11B.

Also, all branches please speak up. Army, Navy, AF, Marines. I'm all ears.

Thanks.

[extremeblastr]

Originally posted by kyleschonert
For those of you in the military, I have a rather general question.

I currently work in the Ag field, I enjoy Agriculture and scouting fields, but there is to much down time for me and the area I am in is drastically changing. My position will be almost useless in the next 5-10 years due to all the oncoming changes and advancements in Ag. Or I will hardly have anything going on 8 months out of the year. Not to mention what I get paid for the hours I work and for my Bachelor's degree. Finding it hard to weigh out....

What are some MOS's out there where I could go work for a Power Plant or any other type of work as that. From careers similar to Engineering to IT, Logistics, etc...

I am not planning on it right now, but am considering it in the future. I would be doing this for career skills, so keep that in mind before you recommend I go sign up for MOS 11B.

Also, all branches please speak up. Army, Navy, AF, Marines. I'm all ears.

Thanks.

i am currentl an 88M (motor transport operator) and stationed at ft. riley. i'm going to lay it out for you plain and simple. if you want to join the army right now go reserves and go to school for something you want to do. the army is going to be downsizing close to 176000 soldiers by 2017 and your not going to get **** for choices of an mos. so if you think your going to walk into the recruiter and say this is what i want not only is there no way in hell thats gonna happen right now unless you get unbelievably lucky and your choice happens to be available, but thats also not how it works. the options you have are what the computer says all your info qualifies you for and the open mos's change on a daily basis in the system.

[OutlawBill]

check out U.S Army 35T - Military Intellegence Systems Maintainer/Integrator
a hard on to get in

[kyleschonert]

I appreciate your response and honesty extremeblastr. I will definitely do my research before doing anything. Not sure about heading back to school, man that was a long 4 years. lol. I am also tossing up the Idea of the Guard and going through AIT.

Like I said, going to do my research before I do anything.

OutlawBill, that looks like it would be a blast! I will look into that. I never thought I would enjoy IT but the more I work with computers at work the more and more I enjoy it.

Thanks guys

[cdrookie]

if you can get any navy position working with, or around, nuclear subs you can have your pick of any power plant you want. when i was getting out of the army, went to some hiring conferences and the nuke navy guys were getting drooled on.

if you have any mechanical engineering experience the company i work for is always looking for field service engineers. power plant work- coal, nuke, gas, it's all travel.

[kyleschonert]

Originally posted by cdrookie
if you can get any navy position working with, or around, nuclear subs you can have your pick of any power plant you want. when i was getting out of the army, went to some hiring conferences and the nuke navy guys were getting drooled on.

if you have any mechanical engineering experience the company i work for is always looking for field service engineers. power plant work- coal, nuke, gas, it's all travel.

I've thought of the Nuclear side of it as well. My brother in laws work at the local Power Plant and a lot of Navy vets work there due to their Nuclear Generation back ground. Just going to have to contact some recruiters. More interested in the Reserves than anything.

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by kyleschonert
I appreciate your response and honesty extremeblastr. I will definitely do my research before doing anything. Not sure about heading back to school, man that was a long 4 years. lol. I am also tossing up the Idea of the Guard and going through AIT.

Like I said, going to do my research before I do anything.

OutlawBill, that looks like it would be a blast! I will look into that. I never thought I would enjoy IT but the more I work with computers at work the more and more I enjoy it.

Thanks guys

Just an FYI, AIT is mandatory... Most people in Combat/ Combat Support like myself have OSUT ( One Station Unit Training ) which is just BCT/AIT all at one time in the same place.

It will be hard gig to get now, heck even a handyman is hard to get... I have friends dropping like flies over little things. You will need a GOOD ASVAB, score and a good GT score to get it. 70+ on the asvab Min. ( IMO ) and atleast a 120 GT ( IMO )

[Aarons 01 400EX]

Originally posted by extremeblastr
the army is going to be downsizing close to 176000 soldiers by 2017 and your not going to get **** for choices of an mos.

This reminds me of the mid 90's when Clinton was in office forcing good soldiers to get out. :rolleyes:

[Nausty]

I was in for 4 years as a combat heavy engineer. Did everything from route clearance w/ uparmored dozers in iraq to 15 mos in afghanistan. There seems to be a demand for diesel mechanics in the military and out of the military. Afghanistan is a lil nutty but a the majority of people chill on the fob. Most of my mechanic buddies are all pullin in a a assload of loot on fracking crews in the oil fields now. I coud talk forever about what the military is like but a picture is worth a thousand words.

[Nausty]

crazy freeking experience man

[Nausty]

wild views

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pretty.. deadly

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haha

[Nausty]

surray base they don't take kindly to our kind around there!

[Nausty]

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[Nausty]

cute lil guy

[Nausty]

life w/ the vest can get a lil intense

[Nausty]

amercuh **** yah

[Nausty]

irock 19

[Nausty]

:huh

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shake n bake

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deez

[Nausty]

quarry ops

[Nausty]

m19 40 mm automatic grenade launcher. ftmfw

(you don't know what adrenaline is until you hop gotta hop outta the turret to swap out ammo for the next sets of targets during complex ambushes on this warlock!):eek2:

[OutlawBill]

Originally posted by kyleschonert
I appreciate your response and honesty extremeblastr. I will definitely do my research before doing anything. Not sure about heading back to school, man that was a long 4 years. lol. I am also tossing up the Idea of the Guard and going through AIT.

Like I said, going to do my research before I do anything.

OutlawBill, that looks like it would be a blast! I will look into that. I never thought I would enjoy IT but the more I work with computers at work the more and more I enjoy it.

Thanks guys any of the MI MOS require A TS SBI security clearance any thing over one or two traffic ticket it may be hard to get the TS SBI

[kyleschonert]

Originally posted by OutlawBill
any of the MI MOS require A TS SBI security clearance any thing over one or two traffic ticket it may be hard to get the TS SBI

I've had two bull crap speeding tickets that I was on "Court Supervision" for (IL's weird laws). That's my only violations/run in with the law.

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by kyleschonert
I've had two bull crap speeding tickets that I was on "Court Supervision" for (IL's weird laws). That's my only violations/run in with the law.

Well whatever ya do, don't try to hide em!! Be very up-front with them about it. How bad were the tickets??? 5-10 over??? It all makes a difference...

[feuerstack411]

extremeblaster isn't kidding about those cuts. There's so much talk about them over here that sometimes I wonder if I'll be packing my bags up later that night. Luckily I'm kind of safe from them in Korea.

As a Soldier living on an Air Force base.... JOIN THE AIR FORCE. I wish I would of joined the Air Force now haha

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by feuerstack411
extremeblaster isn't kidding about those cuts. There's so much talk about them over here that sometimes I wonder if I'll be packing my bags up later that night. Luckily I'm kind of safe from them in Korea.

As a Soldier living on an Air Force base.... JOIN THE AIR FORCE. I wish I would of joined the Air Force now haha

And do what??? Sit behind a desk??? I'm never one to dis other branches, but i've got a beef with people in the Air Force, with the exception of a few AF positions...

Airmen will go around saying " i've been in a war zone " or " i've fought for my country ".... Yeah, that might be true, but they don't have to live with the things we see and do, and dream about at night. The Combat and Combat Support MOS's and The Marines, are the one's who fight wars, everybody else is just their to help us. So if your looking for a " claim to fame " there is only 2 branches that will get that for you.

[trailrider894]

For instance, i've got a friend who has been in the Air Force almost 10yrs, been to Iraq twice and Afghanistan twice... never heard a gun shot and never left the FOB.

Then i've got a friend who was in the Army for 2yrs, got his feet crushed into powder by an IED, and now needs an Escort and or Armed Guard to stand by his door at night, because he will try to get up and relive the moments before the IED, i've seen him do it... He'll get up, pick up a broom stick and run around thinking its his SAW... This isn't for the faint of heart, if you are looking for the easiest way out, but still to get credit, then please DO NOT join the military... I want to serve next to men and women who are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, and be willing to do whatever it takes to defend our country, not people who just complain about the army, and say " Shoulda joined the Air Force "... Just shows, that all your looking for is a better way to get what you want without doing a damn thing.

Sorry for the rant, but I believe in what I do and what I stand for and believe in as a Soldier and if anything, I wish it was harder...

[kyleschonert]

Originally posted by trailrider894
And do what??? Sit behind a desk??? I'm never one to dis other branches, but i've got a beef with people in the Air Force, with the exception of a few AF positions...

Airmen will go around saying " i've been in a war zone " or " i've fought for my country ".... Yeah, that might be true, but they don't have to live with the things we see and do, and dream about at night. The Combat and Combat Support MOS's and The Marines, are the one's who fight wars, everybody else is just their to help us. So if your looking for a " claim to fame " there is only 2 branches that will get that for you.

They may not see direct fire but doesn't mean they don't serve a very huge purpose in accomplishing the same goal.

For instance. I work in Ag Retail as a Salesman.

I sold Seed, Chemical, and Fertilizer to Farmer Joe this year. One of my co-workers applied the fertilizer that helped nourish the crop through the growing season. The farmer planted the seed which I would then scout throughout the growing season to insure proper health and maximize yield. Another co-worker applied the pesticides that protected it from insect damage and weed pressure that would hinder the yield of the seed that I sold to the farmer.

The farmer harvested the crop. Sold it to an elevator where it was then transferred and used for products, you name it either food, fuel, or other by-products. Somewhere along the road those said products made it to someone in the Army, AF, Marines, Navy etc.. with an Occupation to package/transport/deliver, etc to the Combat and Combat MOS's. Therefore keeping them fed, healthy, and ready for the fight.

So even though they are not dishing the rounds down range doesn't mean their job isn't equally important. Every one plays a vital role.

And yes, I would be willing to put my life on hold and for the ultimate sacrifice to insure that my Niece's, Nephew's, and one day down the road when I have my own children are able to have the freedom I was able to have growing up. I'm not afraid to die in combat defending my Country and the ones that I love. I could get killed by a DD on my way to work or robbed at a gas station every day.

And yes they don't have to see the things that others do, but that is why they chose the route that they did. No one forces anyone to join the Army under a Combat position, so if they can't handle those images then they shouldn't join in that specialization.

Don't take that last paragraph out of context, I have never been over seas so don't know what it's like. But I have had very close friends that have and you can easily tell who can and can't handle it. I have the utmost respect for our Armed Service Members, believe me. But I hate it when kids join for the wrong reasons, I can assure you that would not be me.

Anyways....

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by kyleschonert
Don't take that last paragraph out of context, I have never been over seas so don't know what it's like. But I have had very close friends that have and you can easily tell who can and can't handle it. I have the utmost respect for our Armed Service Members, believe me. But I hate it when kids join for the wrong reasons, I can assure you that would not be me.

Anyways....

Good to know!! And I appreciate it... I'm just trying to help this guy understand that he shouldn't just pick an MOS that is easy, or use the military for its technical training... He needs to be willing to do what ever it takes to get the job done!!!

[Aarons 01 400EX]

Originally posted by trailrider894
Good to know!! And I appreciate it... I'm just trying to help this guy understand that he shouldn't just pick an MOS that is easy, or use the military for its technical training... He needs to be willing to do what ever it takes to get the job done!!!

Every job is important in the military... Just because you aren't on an OP calling in fire support doesn't mean you aren't important. Hell, the most important job in the military is the cook..

[miller821]

Originally posted by trailrider894
And do what??? Sit behind a desk??? I'm never one to dis other branches, but i've got a beef with people in the Air Force, with the exception of a few AF positions...

Airmen will go around saying " i've been in a war zone " or " i've fought for my country ".... Yeah, that might be true, but they don't have to live with the things we see and do, and dream about at night. The Combat and Combat Support MOS's and The Marines, are the one's who fight wars, everybody else is just their to help us. So if your looking for a " claim to fame " there is only 2 branches that will get that for you.


Originally posted by trailrider894
For instance, i've got a friend who has been in the Air Force almost 10yrs, been to Iraq twice and Afghanistan twice... never heard a gun shot and never left the FOB.

Then i've got a friend who was in the Army for 2yrs, got his feet crushed into powder by an IED, and now needs an Escort and or Armed Guard to stand by his door at night, because he will try to get up and relive the moments before the IED, i've seen him do it... He'll get up, pick up a broom stick and run around thinking its his SAW... This isn't for the faint of heart, if you are looking for the easiest way out, but still to get credit, then please DO NOT join the military... I want to serve next to men and women who are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, and be willing to do whatever it takes to defend our country, not people who just complain about the army, and say " Shoulda joined the Air Force "... Just shows, that all your looking for is a better way to get what you want without doing a damn thing.

Sorry for the rant, but I believe in what I do and what I stand for and believe in as a Soldier and if anything, I wish it was harder...

I'm not about to get into any argument or anything... But judging by these last two posts, I truly believe that your outlook of the Air Force has been severely misconstrued...

To the OP: I won't tell you that any branch is better than the other, it's all personal preference as each has a different mission. Personally, I chose an AFSC that is going to help me in the civilian world as well. It sounds like you sort of know what type of job your looking for, and I'm not sure what you have your bachelor's in, but look into the Officer side of the military as well.

[trailrider894]

I am just very particular about who I want watching my back, and commanding me, thats all. I've just seen to many corrupt/wannebe's/etc.... who have gotten people killed over selfishness... I get hot headed over it, so sorry about my rants!!!!

The officer route is a good idea, but you may encounter some trouble with getting people to respect you. I think that you should earn rank, work for... See combat, and learn what being in the military is all about and get that discipline and understand the way things work, first, before becoming an Officer... If you just who up day one as an officer and can't even find your way around the military lifestyle, how do you expect anyone to be able to respect you as their leader. To often I find myself helping ROTC derived Officer/Newborns around with their daily chores, because they don't know their ARSE from a hole in the ground...

[ZeroLogic]

Originally posted by trailrider894
And do what??? Sit behind a desk??? I'm never one to dis other branches, but i've got a beef with people in the Air Force, with the exception of a few AF positions...

Airmen will go around saying " i've been in a war zone " or " i've fought for my country ".... Yeah, that might be true, but they don't have to live with the things we see and do, and dream about at night. The Combat and Combat Support MOS's and The Marines, are the one's who fight wars, everybody else is just their to help us. So if your looking for a " claim to fame " there is only 2 branches that will get that for you.
Jesus Christ kid are you even in the military? Know you're **** before you speak. :rolleyes:

[extremeblastr]

Originally posted by Aarons 01 400EX
Every job is important in the military... Just because you aren't on an OP calling in fire support doesn't mean you aren't important. Hell, the most important job in the military is the cook..


DEAD WRONG! so unbelievably wrong its not even funny. the most under rated and easily most important mos in the military is an 88m. without 88m's **** doesn't get moved, nobody else does their job without our trucks delivering what they need and transporting troops. give credit to whoever you want but have fun operating without truck drivers dropping off your equipment and supplies.

[honda250xrider]

Originally posted by OutlawBill
any of the MI MOS require A TS SBI security clearance any thing over one or two traffic ticket it may be hard to get the TS SBI

You can get the clearance even with quite a few violations- even criminal.


They did replace the SBI term awhile ago with SSBI.

[ZeroLogic]

Originally posted by extremeblastr
DEAD WRONG! so unbelievably wrong its not even funny. the most under rated and easily most important mos in the military is an 88m. without 88m's **** doesn't get moved, nobody else does their job without our trucks delivering what they need and transporting troops. give credit to whoever you want but have fun operating without truck drivers dropping off your equipment and supplies.

We use birds.:blah: :p

[kt1148]

Originally posted by ZeroLogic
Jesus Christ kid are you even in the military? Know you're **** before you speak. :rolleyes: x2^^...what about the PJ's? It's not just Army & Marine corps...

[ZeroLogic]

Just like how every MOS in the army works together as a team, every branch of the military works together as a team. One branch goes down then everything falls apart. Any branch of the military is good to get into. But right now the military is down sizing greatly and will be very hard to get a decent mos/contracts.

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by ZeroLogic
Jesus Christ kid are you even in the military? Know you're **** before you speak. :rolleyes:

I'm not saying that people don't do hard jobs, sure, everybody does, in most cases, have to do their share of work. Everybody works together to make the " MISSION " possible... but we are the ones who " PERFORM " the mission and are for the most part, the ones that DIE doing it. Helicopters crash, Tanks catch on fire, etc... Every job in the military is dangerous. I had no intentions of stirring you up, I've been havin some bad days lately... Which if you are in the Army, you should understand. What is your MOS anyway???

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by ZeroLogic
Just like how every MOS in the army works together as a team, every branch of the military works together as a team. One branch goes down then everything falls apart. Any branch of the military is good to get into. But right now the military is down sizing greatly and will be very hard to get a decent mos/contracts.

True, any branch of the military is good to get into, it all depends on what you are looking for.

Wanna travel to all parts of the world??? be crammed on a ship for month's on end??? Join the Navy...

Wanna be brained washed and made into a killing machine??? Wanna be part of the proudest branch of the military??? Join the Marines...

Wanna spend endless amounts of time, performing obnoxious tasks??? Wanna live in the best conditions known to the military??? Join the Air Force...

Wanna live by the ocean and hot chicks??? Wanna wear the stupidest looking ODU ever?!?!?! Join the Coast Guard...

Wanna get screwed or used to perform purely political tasks??? Wanna fight in the most well known, toughest, and the most fun??? Join The Army...

Of course there is negatives and positives to every branch... I could go on all day... I may be fairly biased about the Army, because its a family affair, since almost everyone in my family has served in the Army, from WWI to Afghanistan where my cousin was killed...
There

[Aarons 01 400EX]

Originally posted by extremeblastr
DEAD WRONG! so unbelievably wrong its not even funny. the most under rated and easily most important mos in the military is an 88m. without 88m's **** doesn't get moved, nobody else does their job without our trucks delivering what they need and transporting troops. give credit to whoever you want but have fun operating without truck drivers dropping off your equipment and supplies.

Umm, I know when our equipment broke, we used our PLCs to complete the mission. We were trained as mechanized but ground pounded because we knew our stuff would break.

[ZeroLogic]

Originally posted by trailrider894
I'm not saying that people don't do hard jobs, sure, everybody does, in most cases, have to do their share of work. Everybody works together to make the " MISSION " possible... but we are the ones who " PERFORM " the mission and are for the most part, the ones that DIE doing it. Helicopters crash, Tanks catch on fire, etc... Every job in the military is dangerous. I had no intentions of stirring you up, I've been havin some bad days lately... Which if you are in the Army, you should understand. What is your MOS anyway???

I agree, the infantry is the heart of the army, everything else is support. If we loose one piece of that support we fall apart.

I'm 11bangbang over in Ft.Campbell

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by ZeroLogic
I agree, the infantry is the heart of the army, everything else is support. If we loose one piece of that support we fall apart.

I'm 11bangbang over in Ft.Campbell

I'm an MP assigned to a unit within an Infantry Division... Can't talk about much else on here. You know how it goes. I've got a buddy in Ft. Campbell... Are you screamin eagles???

[ZeroLogic]

Yessir

[Wiz49]

Brainwashed Killing Machine??? Your rants on this forum are Laughable...keep it up jerky it's a hoot.

I guess I'm the only Marine that has or is going to reply and I would say that the Marines are not your cup of tea for what you are interested in doing as a career. There's plenty for you to do in the Civilian world with Navy and/or AirForce experience because there are some interchangeable positions in those branches of service.

FYI my squad leader was a grunt who had 2 years college and is now working at a power plant so it can be done it's just a little harder on the Brainwashed Killing Machines.

[buck440]

Originally posted by Wiz49
FYI my squad leader was a grunt who had 2 years college and is now working at a power plant so it can be done it's just a little harder on the Brainwashed Killing Machines.

when i was first joining the army they told me the only spots that were open were nuclear power plant operator or tank crewman. i said infantryman lol, 11b for me sir. i'm obviously not putting much thought into my future. i'm sure a power plant operator in the military could carry over into the civilian world pretty well.

[Wiz49]

Yep I said the same thing...my recruiter said with your scores you can do anything in the Marines. I told him joining the Marines and not going infantry is like signing up to play football just to ride the bench. I don't regret it but it would have been nice to have some other skills besides shooting and calling in fire missions.

[kyleschonert]

Been in contact with a Guard recruiter. Not sure if I want to do National Guard or Reserves, all depends on my MOS of Interest, but I have a few that interest me. 12B, and MOS's in the 13 Series, and 25 Series. And there are positions open within 50 miles from home. Looking into getting into the Industrial Tech field and from the research I've done and with my current education and experiences from previous jobs, these will help.

Thanks for your responses guys.