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smokeu400
03-02-2003, 01:41 AM
ok ppl i wanna know whitch is faster i gotta shut up some people
lt-500R or KFX-700
i think the 500 is well post and let me know

TroyLeePred03
03-02-2003, 02:34 AM
zilla for sure...no way the 700 will it sucks....i was talkin to the kawasaki dealer we r friends with and they refuse to carry the v-force its so horrible they gave them a demo one last week and i took it for a day....it sucks i hated it:blah ....worst quad ive ever ridden...lata~TLP

Juggalo
03-02-2003, 03:12 AM
riiiiight....anyways i don't think anybody knows for sure or not but i have my money on the v-force. this is coming from a zilla fan by the way...

jarred15801
03-02-2003, 12:22 PM
Zilla

heavy_d
03-02-2003, 12:29 PM
Zilla :devil

CHAR250R
03-02-2003, 12:32 PM
I had two 89 Quadracer 500's. They were both rocketships. I've yet to ride the Kawi 700. I don't think an automatic 700cc 4 stroke could be as fast as a 5 speed 500cc 2 stroke. I gotta get another 500. I miss the ones I had. I'll take the 500 over the Kawi anyday. Besides, automatic trannys are for Polaris' anyway.

01TRX300EX
03-02-2003, 01:49 PM
I think the Zilla is faster, but with the right gearing the 700 can probably be made to go faster, since the 700 is geared more towards woods while the Zilla was more of a desert machine. TroyLessPred, thats the most B.S. I've ever heard.

heavy_d
03-02-2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by 01TRX300EX
I think the Zilla is faster, but with the right gearing the 700 can probably be made to go faster, since the 700 is geared more towards woods while the Zilla was more of a desert machine. TroyLessPred, thats the most B.S. I've ever heard.

the zilla can be geared very easily to do over a 100mph with everything else stock and still have low end

RED121572
03-02-2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by 01TRX300EX
I think the Zilla is faster, but with the right gearing the 700 can probably be made to go faster, since the 700 is geared more towards woods while the Zilla was more of a desert machine. TroyLessPred, thats the most B.S. I've ever heard.

:rolleyes: yea, I thought the same about that persons whole post.

And exactly why was the 700 so bad?? No bashing B.S...we are looking for details. :D

Heres a question for those of you that are so sure the zilla is faster....

Just how fast is the zilla and just how fast is the 700? I dont know squat about either machine, but I dont buy what anyone says without numbers.:)

heavy_d
03-02-2003, 02:46 PM
zilla is 80 mph stock, but the 87 is faster than the 88-90, it has more compression and i don't know about the kfx 700

Chanman420q
03-02-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by 01TRX300EX
I think the Zilla is faster, but with the right gearing the 700 can probably be made to go faster

shaft driven quads can be geared? :huh

RED121572
03-02-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Chanman420q
shaft driven quads can be geared? :huh

Thanks HeavyD, thats the kind of an answer I was looking for.:D

kwatts400
03-02-2003, 04:09 PM
I was just thinkin the same thing. Shaft drive on a sport quad is a bad idea.

TroyLeePred03
03-02-2003, 05:38 PM
lol and he is telling me i b.s. when he says u can gear a shaft driven quad??wtf??...lol...the kawasaki dealer we r good friends with has no interest in them....they are very sluggish....kind of like the rx1 snowmobile its sluggish at low speeds but up top its more responsive....its a v-twin so it likes the high revs and is good for pulling power but not low speed power...its very heavy and i the weight is very unbalanced it felt like...the steering felt heavy in the trails probably just the wight getting to me and the thumb shifter is a good idea but it was a pain to search for the light switch when i wanted to switch it...the brakes werent the greatest either i thought i dunno anyone else ridden it and felt this....im sure it will have a good top speed if u had 5 football fields to cross because itll take forever to get top speed....im not b.s.'ing this is just my experience riding one if u dont like my opinion i could care less keep it to yourself...lata~TLP

heavy_d
03-02-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by TroyLeePred03
its very heavy and i the weight is very unbalanced it felt like

dry weight: 506lbs

01TRX300EX
03-02-2003, 10:53 PM
Ok, its an automatic there for it can be geared differently, has nothing to do with the shaft. I know it has something to do with the clutching in them.

suzuki Z400
03-02-2003, 11:19 PM
but there is no gears to change. it is an automatic and shaft driven. i dont thing any gears are involved at all accept for neutral, reverse, forwards and the cam.

TroyLeePred03
03-03-2003, 01:47 AM
clutching can be changed but it does not affect top speed any faster only slightly slower....u can gear it all out for drag itll let the motor rev higher and the clutch sheaves will engage later on...go to a place like epiperformance.com and they should have explanation on clutching...different weights and springs change a whole performance on an automatic quad and on snowmobiles...thats after all....where the power comes from after the motor...lata~TLP

Chanman420q
03-03-2003, 06:27 PM
one of my snowmobiles has a clutch kit and it definitly made it quicker but i dont know about faster

RuffRyder400ex
03-03-2003, 09:47 PM
The 500 will win easily.

raptor_02
03-03-2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by heavy_d
the zilla can be geared very easily to do over a 100mph with everything else stock and still have low end :rolleyes:

Juggalo
03-03-2003, 10:10 PM
well i think you guys are in for a surprise. i am a zilla fan and i want one really bad, and actually i'm not that into the v-forces but look the zilla is a fast quad no doubt but really its not that much faster than a ds650. the v-forces make a ton of power and sure their automatics but trust me they won't be slow like a scrambler or somethin, they will be fast as hell! i mean most pro drag cars are autos so its a fact that autos can be faster than a manual. also if a prairie 650 can beat a 400EX in a drag (yes you read that right) just think of what a hopped up one in a lighter chasis can do. the zilla is fast no doubt but in a drag i would have my money on the 'saki.

heavy_d
03-03-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by raptor_02
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

raptor_02
03-03-2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by heavy_d
:rolleyes: nice reply. You say stock zillas run 80 and simple gearing will make them run easily over 100mph???? Yea right. Don't see that happening. A cr500 would be lucky to hit 100, i highly doubt a zilla could with just a different gearing. :rolleyes:

heavy_d
03-03-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by raptor_02
nice reply. You say stock zillas run 80 and simple gearing will make them run easily over 100mph???? Yea right. Don't see that happening. A cr500 would be lucky to hit 100, i highly doubt a zilla could with just a different gearing. :rolleyes:

glad you like my reply, but if you put a small enough sproket in the rear and the largest you can fit in the front you can make it to 100mph and a cr500 definitely won't hit a 100 stock 85-90mph i believe

Sporttrax400ex
03-03-2003, 11:25 PM
I think Zila

Juggalo
03-04-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by heavy_d
glad you like my reply, but if you put a small enough sproket in the rear and the largest you can fit in the front you can make it to 100mph and a cr500 definitely won't hit a 100 stock 85-90mph i believe

lets say you did do that to the zilla. the v-force would still walk all over it in a drag race because it would take a long time for it to reach 100.

400exTN
03-04-2003, 01:24 AM
Take a look here for a few pics of the new 700 in action

http://exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48071

raptor_02
03-04-2003, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by heavy_d
glad you like my reply, but if you put a small enough sproket in the rear and the largest you can fit in the front you can make it to 100mph and a cr500 definitely won't hit a 100 stock 85-90mph i believe so your saying a QUADZILLA can out run a CR500???? UMMMMM NO. Again not going to happen. I'd say if you regear a ZILLA and a few simple mods it might hit 90mph. But saying one will do over 100 easily with just a different gear ratio there is NO WAY!

heavy_d
03-04-2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by raptor_02
so your saying a QUADZILLA can out run a CR500???? UMMMMM NO. Again not going to happen. I'd say if you regear a ZILLA and a few simple mods it might hit 90mph. But saying one will do over 100 easily with just a different gear ratio there is NO WAY!

yeah i'm saying it can outrun a cr500 with different sprokets but not STOCK, thats what I be saying and yes your true Juggalo

AndrewRRR
03-04-2003, 05:04 PM
Our computer guy used to race quads (land speed record stuff). I'll have to ask him again, but he had a LT500 (waaaay built and geared taller than a tree of course) that hit 135mph. He quit after a crash, but I think the record still stands. I'll ask him for details next time he comes out.

raptor_02
03-04-2003, 11:28 PM
wonder how a cannondale will stack up against these quads. I think one would do quiet well :)

ride_red_ex
03-05-2003, 11:01 AM
i havent got to ride the 700 but at florida this weekend they were tearin $hit up

forget top speed...i dont see in quadzillas winning the morning gncc race

EXboy540
03-09-2003, 06:47 PM
i think the kfx will rip it a new *******
but the 230 shaft is better lol :)

02bwraptor
03-09-2003, 10:46 PM
Got to ride a 700 today. I rode it for maybe 50 yards and did not like it. It felt like an utility to me. It had some speed but nothing like my raptor. It felt big and I did not like the automatic. I don't know how fast it is because it was not my bike. It probably is as fast as a z400 or so. This is my opinion:cool:

02bwraptor
03-09-2003, 10:58 PM
Got to ride a 700 today. I rode it for maybe 50 yards and did not like it. It felt like an utility to me. It had some speed but nothing like my raptor. It felt big and I did not like the automatic. I don't know how fast it is because it was not my bike. It probably is as fast as a z400 or so. This is my opinion:cool:

03-10-2003, 06:54 AM
Ok, a Cr500 is fu*king crazy in the first place and it goes faster then 85-90 i kno for fact. My cr250 is a crazy machine. I think a Zilla will smoke a kfx but i have heard good things about kfxs i hear they have enough power to ride wheelies and they did good in some races but i hate automatic i think that is super gay.

lex luger
03-10-2003, 06:00 PM
ill put my money on the LT(500) that is :blah unless the zilla blows a piston, or seal, or sleeve, they are nitrous for that

Juggalo
03-10-2003, 06:27 PM
blow a sleeve huh? zillas don't even have sleeves, their nicasil coated. only 87 zillas had the problen with head gaskets blowing.

mrkfx
06-16-2005, 05:59 PM
first of all, to settle all disputes on the "crapzilla" and the kfx700, i have owned both, and i have been riding for 15 years, semi pro, and for recreational fun. the 500 is an awsome machine, for it's day. when i starting looking for a new bike earlier this year i looked at everything, and i bought a kfx 700. it has a very good bottom end, and for your info, the v-twin has a load of torque, and mine is stock and my cop buddy clocked me at 76mph on a paved rd. the 500 was a blast to ride, but for my style of riding i would much rather have the kfx, it will easily pull the front wheels off of the ground at 30-40mph. and for the record troy lee pred03, your an idiot.

jmoney45
06-16-2005, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by mrkfx
and for the record troy lee pred03, your an idiot.

I second that

MR.BIG
06-17-2005, 08:32 AM
The quadzilla 500 will smoke a v-force easily. You are talking about a 500 two stroke vs a 7oo v-twin 4 stroke. I have had many 500's and they will absolutely smoke the v-force!

mrkfx
06-18-2005, 05:03 PM
mr. big, my fellow rider, i never said that a kfx was faster, i was just merely sticking up for it in the torque department. i said i would much rather have the kfx for my style of riding. if i want to cruise around in the woods with one hand on the bars, and use the other one to hold a beverage, i can. and if i want to strap up and jump on the track and spank some 400ex's around, i can. it's not a stricly racing atv. and thats what i love about it, it's versitile and it's fun to ride. if i wanted to strictly race, i would have bought a yfz.

mstrav1
06-20-2005, 10:53 PM
mr kfx: just for your info, the question (in 2003) was which was faster? and you obviousely know its the 500, which stock for stock is the fastest factory stock quad ever made. even to this day!!!!! so ansewr the question!!!!!

2) do you think we are dumb enough here to say the cushy ridding kfx700 is a better "ride" than the 700? you are an idiot if you cannot first answer the original question and second to think that all us hill-billys would rather ride a 1989 horse over a 2005 cadi!!!!!!!!

and the 500 will also wheelie at 40 / 50 / 60 or as fast as you want to go.

mrkfx
06-21-2005, 12:50 PM
well mr. im glad u like me, i guess i will go ahead an answer the question since you called me an idiot. the 500 is faster, but not by a whole lot. i was just sticking up for my 700. but it seems funny to me that the 500 isnt getting any awards these days? i dont know, could just be me. oh, you are now on the same dilweed list as pred o3, you know he's brilliant, he bought a pred.

mstrav1
06-21-2005, 04:26 PM
just so you know your v-force doesn't have a pot to piss in compared to either 450! try jumping that tank. in sand drags no matter what mods you have you will get smoked. The preditor is about equal in speed to yours in the sand and has a much smaller engine:D

mrkfx
06-22-2005, 03:34 PM
you must not be very smart. the kfx is awesome in the sand, and i have beat a couple of preds, easily i might add. so it's obvious, you just like to argue, and can't admit it when your wrong. i think they have theropy for that, maybe you should check in on that.

MR.BIG
06-23-2005, 04:37 PM
The v-force is a mellow ride but if you want all out power and speed the 500 is the way to go. The reason the 500 hasn't won any awards is because it hasn't been made in 13 years. The 500 is a great dune bike because it is extremely wide and stable. Oh what kind of beverage may you be holding??????????????

mrkfx
06-23-2005, 06:02 PM
BINGO! my point exactly! the 500 is not made anymore! it's yesterdays news! if it was the baddest and the best it would still be here! if it was Gods gift to atv'ers it would still be in production. but i have news for you, it's not, and like you said mr. big it hasnt been for a while. but you know what is, other great quads like the 450r, 660raptor, yfz450, ds650, pred, 400ex, and on and on, but there is never going to a quad that every single person is going to agree on. for example: i dont like the 450r, i think it is very uncomfortable to ride, and you don't like my 700. we all have different preferences. and yes mstrav1, i know, i didnt answer the question. did i? and for your info, i'm not a cadi fan, i prefer my 05 dodge 4door diesel 4wd. and my horse was not born in 89' or whatever. ya'll have a good one.

mstrav1
06-23-2005, 08:23 PM
blah, blah, blah:blah:

the v-force is a turd compared to the 500!

a preditor and a v-force with equal riders. pred wins!!!

v-force is heavy

v-force is for lazzzzzzy riders that miss shifts anyways!!!

they have good power, but are tanks!!!!!!!!

the v-force needs to go on a 100lb diet to be anything to recon with. even the new raptor only ways 396lbs!!!!!!!

mrkfx sure likes to brag about his toys, to bad you can't buy riding skills with all that money!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrkfx
06-24-2005, 04:34 AM
riding skill i have, maybe you didnt read, or you can't read, or something, but, i raced semi pro for 4 years as a hobby, and have been riding for 15 years. have you ever seen a race between a kfx and a pred? or are you talking to hear your head rattle?:rolleyes:

MR.BIG
06-24-2005, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by mrkfx
BINGO! my point exactly! the 500 is not made anymore! it's yesterdays news! if it was the baddest and the best it would still be here! if it was Gods gift to atv'ers it would still be in production. but i have news for you, it's not, and like you said mr. big it hasnt been for a while. but you know what is, other great quads like the 450r, 660raptor, yfz450, ds650, pred, 400ex, and on and on, but there is never going to a quad that every single person is going to agree on. for example: i dont like the 450r, i think it is very uncomfortable to ride, and you don't like my 700. we all have different preferences. and yes mstrav1, i know, i didnt answer the question. did i? and for your info, i'm not a cadi fan, i prefer my 05 dodge 4door diesel 4wd. and my horse was not born in 89' or whatever. ya'll have a good one.

Wait a second I never said I didn't like the v-force. It's just not my type of ride yet. I love my 450r but I also like to get a 4x4 quad to ride in the techinical trails because the 450r is just to fast for the tight stuff. This thread totally went away from the question but I still believe the v-force will not compete with the 500!

quadracer4
06-24-2005, 12:36 PM
ok anyone who thinks a vforce 4-STROKE 700 will beat a 2-STROKE 500cc quad it out of their minds hands down their is no comp a zilla would woop the pants off a v-foce no questions asked this post is not even worth bickering over hands down zilla wins, this is comming from a v-force fan and I am very ashamed after riding a zilla

quadracer4
06-24-2005, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by mrkfx
BINGO! my point exactly! the 500 is not made anymore! it's yesterdays news! if it was the baddest and the best it would still be here! if it was Gods gift to atv'ers it would still be in production. but i have news for you, it's not, and like you said mr. big it hasnt been for a while. but you know what is, other great quads like the 450r, 660raptor, yfz450, ds650, pred, 400ex, and on and on, but there is never going to a quad that every single person is going to agree on. for example: i dont like the 450r, i think it is very uncomfortable to ride, and you don't like my 700. we all have different preferences. and yes mstrav1, i know, i didnt answer the question. did i? and for your info, i'm not a cadi fan, i prefer my 05 dodge 4door diesel 4wd. and my horse was not born in 89' or whatever. ya'll have a good one.


I do belive the gov made the quad producers stop building these AWESOME machines because they were "to dangerous" and also they were "getting to big", but I do agree with you on riders preferance for quads well said

mrkfx
06-24-2005, 04:43 PM
i dont know about whoop the pance off, but you are right, a 500 2 stroke is just plain stupid fast, the zilla was a awesome machine, like i said earlier in the post, i uste to own one and it was very fast, but it was about 5 years ago and havnt rode one since, i think the race might be closer than some people think, but in my opinion the 500 would pull away around 40mph. i do have another question, and this is not about a 500 or a 700, some guys were talking at work today about who would win between a 450r or a yfz450, i have rode both and both are pretty fast, so i could't answer it. i uste to have a 250r, and if i had the money, i would like to buy a 450r just to have for the legacy, and there a blast for a short time ( to me), i am a bigger guy 6' 3 and it gets very uncomfortable to me after an hour or so. but if anybody knows which is faster, please let me know. and yes i am a big 700 fan. i think its an awesome mixture, i even like the auto, and i uste to hate auto's.

mstrav1
06-24-2005, 06:20 PM
i never said i hate the v-force. i think for what it is it does fine, but the v-force wouldn't even hang to 40 mph. the clutch just smokes the v-force which if you think about it , it is the son of the zilla!!!!! and yes i race sand drags and whatch 500's beat most everything even both 450's. in a straight drag stock for stock no other bike even comes close!!!!!!!!!!!

if the v-force had a clutch it would prob be a lot faster, but not the cushy ride that it is with the auto!!!1



just my 2$$$

mrkfx
06-24-2005, 06:49 PM
i never have had the opp. to race in the sand. i have played around, i thought my kfx did pretty good in the sand, but i like it on dirt tracks better. the guys i was riding with were riding 400ex's, and i will say they couldnt hang very well. not being a smart @$$, but have you ever rode a kfx700? because in my opinion even with the auto i wouldnt call it cushy. i uste to own a polaris 400 sport, and it was a little cushy, but the 700 has so much more power, it almost makes up for the auto. and i fully agree, if it were a clutcher, it would be faster, quicker anyway. but i still love it, and untill the day they come out with something i like better i'll keep on chuggin with her, cushy or not. it will ride on heck of a wheelie being an auto though.

yamadjs08
06-24-2005, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by quadracer4
I do belive the gov made the quad producers stop building these AWESOME machines because they were "to dangerous" and also they were "getting to big", but I do agree with you on riders preferance for quads well said
Glad to see somebody chimed in about this, I was a little suprised about the remark of "then why arent the quadzillas still made" there are quite a few reasons, first like said, the government stepped in and slowed alot of it down, then the market started dying off and part of this was from the government stepping in Im sure. That and can you think of the emissions on that thing, I can bet it would be pretty hard to pass todays standards with emissions on a 500cc 2-stroke. Althought the thought of a new quadzilla being made just makes me all tingly in side haha, that would be insane, a newer technological (sp?) frame with much better suspension, but still with that bad***** motor, it would be insane!:devil:

Mr Limpy
06-27-2005, 08:58 PM
Just bought a kfx 700. one word. AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone has there opinion but some people express it in a rude manner. All quads have there ups and downs. The zilla is a legendary machine. The kfx is the future. V-twins are loaded with tourqe (low revs for you lamens out there). That why Ducatis are known for there tourqe, they are twins. Oh, and just for the uneducated few, you can "gear" a shaft, you just dont do it the traditional way...come on guys, open your minds.

As for the original topic. The zilla would win, come on, its a two stroke. hmmm, lets do the numbers. 125 two stroke races 250 four strokes....250 2 stroke races 450 four strokes. 500 2 stroke race a 1000 four stroke???? Then the zilla would lose. Maybe a quad with a gixxer motor in it?

:blah:

mrkfx
06-28-2005, 04:27 PM
i'm glad i'm not alone in loving my 700 here. i will agree with you, i got a little hot under the collar and probably said some rude things sticking up for my kfx, it set my temper off a little bit when troyleepred03 was bashing the 700 in the first thread, he obviously has not rode one, or just flat out hates them, but some of the remarks he made leads me to beleive he has never rode one, if i have offended anybody, i'm sorry. and i agree with you as well about the 500 winning, but i still bet it would be closer than some people think, i dont think it would be a total blow out.

Mr Limpy
06-28-2005, 09:35 PM
Yes mrkfx
...you did get a little hot. Almost embarassed me the way you were sticking up for the kfx in a "tantrum" sorta way. Some people on here have the attitude "my quad is the best" , just let them be, someday they will grow up.

smokeu400
06-28-2005, 10:24 PM
i wanted to add something to "the reason the 500 isnt made any more"......well when you have some big shot (like anyone of us are) and for all of you who are over the age of 21 as mrkfx said b4



if i want to cruise around in the woods with one hand on the bars, and use the other one to hold a beverage, i can. and if i want to strap up and jump on the track and spank some 400ex's around, i can. it's not a stricly racing atv.

its the idiots who drink and ride and get messed up and blame the company or what ever is onof the reasons the zillia isnt around

Mr Limpy
06-28-2005, 10:41 PM
Most of the accidents are not from alcohol, they are from dumb kids who dont know there limits. As far as the "quad disapearence". it is because these dumb *** kids that get killed have sue happy parents that want to blame someone for there loss. In the last two times I went quading I saw two incidents were the young quad riders were being very stupidly unsafe. Granite, I myself have a speed problem but i dont endanger others by going full bore through a crowded parking lot. I almost lost my temper and went over and spanked him.

kreed5821
06-29-2005, 12:38 AM
I had to vote for the zilla. My cousin had one and a friend still has one. I've never seen a quad that fast. I rode with some guys on vforces and my brother blew them away with his raptor 660. Our friend can blow my brother away with that zilla and my brother is the better rider. I'm not throwing off on the vforce. Most people don't like my ride (raptor 350). Who cares? I ride it, you ride what you like. Where I ride at, you can't max out anything over a 350 anyway in more than two spots. Ya'll need to quit arguing and go ride! :D

AZVFORCE
07-03-2005, 02:45 PM
My V ain't the fastest around but it does pretty well. The only 'zilla I have ever raced was up comp hill in Glamis. Got him by a couple quadlengths 2 times in a row. Don't know what he had, only saw the FMF pipe and "CT Racing" was machined into the side of the cylinder.

Before everyone calls this and that-- A properly clutched, piped V is ALOT faster than a stock one. The V is detuned or held back in stock form due to the stock clutch parts. Stock setup shifts out before the motor even hits peak power.

I'm not saying I can beat every LT500 out there, just saying I beat the only one I have ever raced twice in a row and his machine appeared to be running just fine.

mstrav1
07-05-2005, 07:47 PM
the bike you raced was an lt250 not lt500. the rider was also a moron, prob just taking his friends bike for a ride!!!!!!!!!

LTandRaptorider
07-05-2005, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by mstrav1
the bike you raced was an lt250 not lt500. the rider was also a moron, prob just taking his friends bike for a ride!!!!!!!!!

I suspect you are right about that! Either that, or the guy on the LT500 should get a Polaris Trailblazer 250... :p

AZVFORCE
07-05-2005, 10:46 PM
Actually, its my dad's neighbor and he was camped with us. He has owned the LT500 since 1992 and is a much better rider than I am. We did a couple races with the me, the LT500, and a couple piped Banshees that were with us. I came out on top every time.
I guess my V was in rare form that trip. Woulda hit the drags that trip but, some jackass rear ended my V and taco'ed my douglas .190.

You guys can call BS 'till you're blue in the face. I was there and know what happend.

Mr Limpy
07-05-2005, 11:58 PM
Hey there azforce. Looks like you have done a bit to your ride. Do you know of a good forum/website for the v-force? I would like to educate myself on the technology of these automatics and what is involved on pumping them up. I have a white bros carbon fiber with a k&n filter jeted. What are you running for an airbox and do you like your rev kit?

To everyone else, dont be jealouse, someday you might get one too.

BFEZ700V
07-06-2005, 07:24 AM
www.kawieriders.com
I own a vforce mostly stock and it is a blast to ride. I admit it is kiind of heavy, but in the trails which is what I bought it for, you can't do 100 mph. I know it can go about 70 - 74mph stock. Gearing can be changed if you have the dough. I rode with a guy in east coast trails on a LT 500 on a night ride, don't know what year his was. He led the pack of us with me right behind the whole time. I could have passed him most of the time. I don't think the 500 can handle nearly as well in the trails as my 700. Totally different machines. With the gearing the 500 can be set up to run faster for drag racing long distances, but the 700 will beat it in cross country racing any day. If it couldn't, than why don't you see many in the GNCC races? I raced in the Sahara sand plant hare scramble in eagleswood township 2 years ago, just about pulled the holeshot, 2nd place, and got 11th place out of over 40 riders. My friend and I were the only Green quads on the line, he got 8th on a kfx 400. That was the open class with everything from 400ex's to raptors. Those guys put on a good race down there. Besides it's all about having fun. If it's bragging rights you want see Dynoray on the Kawieriders forum he can make a vforce with over 90 hp if not 100 hp. $$$ talks. The vforce will top out under 300 yards because of the clutching cant change the top speed.

BFEZ700V
07-06-2005, 07:29 AM
AZVFORCE, how do you like the carbon pro exhaust? How come you didn't buy the muzzy? the carbon pro is about the same price isn't it?

AZVFORCE
07-06-2005, 10:38 AM
I had the Muzzy since the day after I bought the V. Just sold it last week and ordered the Carbon Pro. The Muzzy will add mostly low end and a little top end. The Carbon pro is said to add mostly top end while not sacrificing any low end. The V has more bottom end torque than I can handle right now, more top end is what I want.

Havent installed the Carbon pro yet.

The rev box doesn't really do anything. My stock CDI went out, so I bought the aftermarket CDI. The airbox is a www.bartlettracing.com airbox kit. Huge difference after installing this kit.

And yes, Kawieriders.com is the place.

BFEZ700V
07-08-2005, 09:33 AM
Have you seen the white bros graphics kit? It'll go with your pipe now. I have had it for a while and holding up great. It is white black and yellow and I got it for $65 from a Kawi dealer. Covers entire airbox down to the rear fenders where your legs rub, gas tank lid decal, hood decal and green decals where your calves rub the fenders.

preddy107
07-13-2005, 11:28 PM
I dont see how all you ppl bash Predators, I have yet too see a V-force beat a predator at any kind of racing. Im sure the LT would walk on the Pred, But you all think the V will do the same. Idd like to see 1 of you V force owners try to jump a 65 foot gap, Hell idd like to see you jump a 30 foot gap. Stop Dissin other **** untill yove rode 1. I could understand if it didnt fit your ridin style like sum1 said but that makes no right to diss ****

KevinM
07-14-2005, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by preddy107
Idd like to see 1 of you V force owners try to jump a 65 foot gap, Hell idd like to see you jump a 30 foot gap. Stop Dissin other **** untill yove rode 1. I could understand if it didnt fit your ridin style like sum1 said but that makes no right to diss ****

http://www.700v.com/043e89b0.jpg

z-mann
07-16-2005, 01:04 AM
My v seems to run ok. :devil:

raptorrider686
07-16-2005, 11:43 AM
The v-force would take it from the start all the way up to 40mph but then its quadzilla time and it would just run away from the v- force.

MR.BIG
07-19-2005, 10:09 AM
The quadzilla is all torque. It would win start to finish!

motochamp250
07-20-2005, 10:25 AM
quadzilla kicks v-force's *** i have rode both quads and zilla rips:devil:

cjracer
07-21-2005, 01:20 PM
I raced my Breeze against my buddys ZILLA and kicks its but!!:D J/k

I have raced against 700s in hare scrambles and they do very well. You don't see to many 500s because they are too wide for the races around here. One of my buddys raced one with his 89 500 and unded up getting stuck between some trees b/c it was so tight. In tight trees even a stock 400ex is competetive with a good rider. It's in the wide open sections of the track that I really get to open it up and woop some @$$.
I have been beat by faster quads too, it's bound to happen. All that matters is if your having fun. Now GO ride!! :D

mrkfx
08-03-2005, 03:51 PM
actually i have beat a couple of preds, on a flat dirt track, and in a drag race, my 700 is bone stock, like it or not, it's faster than a pred. it is also faster than a stock 660, argue all you want, i know it for a fact, my buddy has a stock raptor and we have raced several times, we even swapped bikes and raced just to see if it were riders, and he beat me on my own bike. i will also admit, the 700 is a little hefty, but it jumps alright for what it is, anything jums when youve got the ba!!$ to push it. and i am not bashing your bike, preds and rapts are both good machines.

bwamos
08-23-2005, 11:11 AM
I have one request of people that post these "which quad is faster" threads.

Please define what you mean by faster. And what level of modification. Just so there's a baseline to compare against. :) Thanks. :D

Straight line 100m drag.
Straight line 1/4 mile drag.
Top Speed
Lap time (track type)
etc.

Being V-Force vs Quadzilla it could be any of the top 3.
100m drag = V-Force
1/4mile drag = Quadzilla
Top Speed = Quadzilla.

All in stock form with stock gearing.

$2500 worth of mods on both. Quadzilla in all 3 catagories (it's a 2-stroke).

Night-rider
08-25-2005, 07:44 PM
I would have to say ..I like my V-,,,most pll realy dont think that they are that fast ....Well...i tell u what it will get up and move u just have to know what to do to her to wake that 697cc..up..I do alot of trail riding with my son..And then i like to open land ride and let it ripp.....And all it takes 30min...to take out the primary spring And put in my other one for what i am ridng For that day,,,Well the airbox jets and 6-Key...And that Muzzy....Its a nice ride....Ride safe

nyceguy01
08-26-2005, 03:06 PM
i am a suziki die hard . if one of my zillas got beat by a z force i would have to go home and kill myself or at least never show my face to my riding buddys again lol

but then again my bike is the farthest thing from stock.

any bike with enough time and $$$$$ dumped into it will haul ***.. you should see my brothers drag blaster you wouldnt believe your eyes when you saw it wax piped and ported banshees .

its all what you like and what you can afford to accomplish

i for one like having something different. i like the fact that i will never see another bike like mine no matter where i ride

nyceguy01
08-26-2005, 04:19 PM
heres mine

nyceguy01
08-26-2005, 04:34 PM
that is an old pic but you get the idea. most of that bike is for sale in the classifieds.

i should have the new chassis and suspension together in a couple months cant wait this is killing me

prepracing
08-27-2005, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by bwamos
I have one request of people that post these "which quad is faster" threads.

Please define what you mean by faster. And what level of modification. Just so there's a baseline to compare against. :) Thanks. :D

Straight line 100m drag.
Straight line 1/4 mile drag.
Top Speed
Lap time (track type)
etc.

Being V-Force vs Quadzilla it could be any of the top 3.
100m drag = V-Force
1/4mile drag = Quadzilla
Top Speed = Quadzilla.

All in stock form with stock gearing.

$2500 worth of mods on both. Quadzilla in all 3 catagories (it's a 2-stroke).

EXACTLY ! cause you can't keep comparing apples to oranges

Iliketogofast
08-28-2005, 02:46 PM
Jesus christ, why are you arguing about this? This isn't even a question, the Lt500 will trash the V-Force so baaaaad.... Just because it's a big 700 twin doesn't mean ****. It also wieghs about 550, and it has a freakin AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION. Garbage.

Jay87
09-25-2005, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Iliketogofast
Jesus christ, why are you arguing about this? This isn't even a question, the Lt500 will trash the V-Force so baaaaad.... Just because it's a big 700 twin doesn't mean ****. It also wieghs about 550, and it has a freakin AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION. Garbage.

exactly, a lt500 will beat a v-force un a 100m drag aswell. the torque in them 500's are unreal