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backwoodsracer
01-16-2012, 08:25 PM
So apparentley a few companies are B****ing cause a loss of sales because people are buying used good's.

Go to the link on the craigslist page and check it out.

Yall's thought's?

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/

Thumpin440ex
01-16-2012, 08:54 PM
Yep it is pretty pathetic people are like this..I will surly send a response in.. Bastages


John

CJM
01-16-2012, 09:23 PM
Aint ever gonna happen, just idiots in washington doing what they do best-bs

Thumpin440ex
01-16-2012, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by CJM
Aint ever gonna happen, just idiots in washington doing what they do best-bs


I am thinking the same thing, but who knows, esp wit our F'd up gov.


John

CJM
01-16-2012, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Thumpin440ex
I am thinking the same thing, but who knows, esp wit our F'd up gov.


John

That is true, one never does know. But they introduce all kinds of crazy bs and it usually doesnt have a chance of passing b/c they late ron figure out its unenforceable and impossible to implement. course that didnt stop them from passing obama care..

Marc

Hornbreaker
01-17-2012, 09:06 AM
Does this mean they can get rid of SLEESE-BAY too? I hope a.hope!

SRH
01-17-2012, 11:03 AM
i hate craigslist, they should make it paid and regulate it, im a business owner and i wont use it, competition can publicly bash you, just too much bs for anyone to put up with, its sleeze ball central

440racer66
01-17-2012, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by SRH
i hate craigslist, they should make it paid and regulate it, im a business owner and i wont use it, competition can publicly bash you, just too much bs for anyone to put up with, its sleeze ball central

i understand where your coming from there alot of sleeze's out there but ive bought and sold more stuff on cl than any other site. yes ive delt witht he anoying people trying to trade me a generator i pod and a laptop for a 05 ninja 636. but sooner or later that right guy calls and would be worth all the hassle. so i still wouldnt like to see it go or even charge you because then it would just like a car trader type deal. but i doubt this will pass

mineralgrey01gt
01-17-2012, 11:57 AM
Ive also bought nice things that I need off of craigslist. It beat paying retail for it when I can get used items for much much cheaper and local. I understand what businesses mean by getting upset about it and how it would take away business but then again not everyone buys new all the time (like myself)

Pappy
01-17-2012, 12:34 PM
CL for me is hit and miss. Had some good deals buying & selling.....cant say ive had any bad dealings yet.

Not really worried about bad people, if they come here once they know this isnt a place to jack around with...and when ive met in town my sidearm is always visable.

It is a great place IF people actually call or email you back....I make sure to reply even if an item is selling and then i delete the posting to prevent further emails and calls.

I actually have some trees lined up from CL that will only cost me my time and expense to remove. I find a ton of local deals on farm items etc as well.

SRH
01-17-2012, 01:28 PM
my main objection to craigslist is its not regulated, even this message board you have to register before you post...craigslist nope...and yeah if you flag an ad it does eventually get taken down...but that doesnt mean it should of

ive bought alot of stuff on craigslist and sold some stuff...but they were all super deals

i put something on for retail...it sits and sits....now there is another paid ad site here...i can advertise there slightly below retail, its gone in a week...serious buyers there

i think the free aspect of craigslist makes it like a dangerous cutthroat corner in the city...you might get a bargain...or stabbed

CJM
01-17-2012, 01:41 PM
Craigslist is okin some respects, but I honestly sold more stuff on ebay than CL. My main issue is people flag your ad for no reason and they just take it down without giving it a secong glance. I posted a job offer up and it got flagged like 3x, no idea why at all as we didnt break any rules or anything-only thing we comeup with was our comepetition saw it and was being a jerk.

But yea Ive had better luck on ebay, I posted a quad once on CL and said 150 firm-granted it was parts and needed a total redo. Only had 3 bites and wasted my time with 2 and let the last guy just have it for 75 bucks cause I didnt want to deal with it anymore...

Id much rather sell or buy on ebay, better protection, better selection of course and usually no run around.

300ex_#387
01-17-2012, 02:57 PM
I have had great luck with craiglist. I have bought and sold many items including trucks and bikes. I Just picked up an 06 crf100 last weekend for $400 with a stripped out drain plug. Had a 115 big bore kit, fmf exhaust, bbr cdi, and bbr HD springs. $10 later and I can make an easy $800. I think I will keep this one awhile though. Basically if someone cannot list an add without making more than 5 mispelled words im out. I also will not go look at anything if they cant atleast wash the bike before they post pictures. If you can avoid stuff like that then you can usually find a straight shooter as a seller.

I have bought and sold a little on ebay also. I prefer ebay but craigslist is where you can really find the deals. You can really find people hard up for money ready to make a quick sale.

extremeblastr
01-17-2012, 03:58 PM
craigslist is 10X more convenient then ebay, besides the fact that i don't want to pay some idiots sitting behind chairs all day because somebody bought my item. i have made good money and gotten great deals. ebay fees are getting to expensive and it makes life so much easier when i don't have to ship things because the person buying it is local. for those of you who have burned on craigslist your doing something wrong thats for sure. i think the only reason fees should be implemented on craigslist is for all the car dealerships that spam their ads on there daily.

SRH
01-17-2012, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by extremeblastr
craigslist is 10X more convenient then ebay, besides the fact that i don't want to pay some idiots sitting behind chairs all day because somebody bought my item. i have made good money and gotten great deals. ebay fees are getting to expensive and it makes life so much easier when i don't have to ship things because the person buying it is local. for those of you who have burned on craigslist your doing something wrong thats for sure. i think the only reason fees should be implemented on craigslist is for all the car dealerships that spam their ads on there daily.

disagree 100%, not everyone should be buying and selling

there not paying taxes

there taking away from business who do things properly
and spend the money to follow there rules and regulations


i always wonder how much of the stuff on craigslist is stolen or pending repo

basically ebay is forcing sellers to be honest and weed out the lazy backyard bums who dont want to share 10-15% of there sales with the company making there sale possible, think about it, if 10-15% is a big deal how many corners are you willing to cut to make a extra buck off the buyer...it really affects ebays reputation in the end when people have poor practices...even though i like money as much as the next guy it makes perfect sense

ebay also provides health insurance and other benefits when you reach certain levels

Thumpin440ex
01-17-2012, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by SRH
disagree 100%, not everyone should be buying and selling

there not paying taxes

there taking away from business who do things properly
and spend the money to follow there rules and regulations


i always wonder how much of the stuff on craigslist is stolen or pending repo

basically ebay is forcing sellers to be honest and weed out the lazy backyard bums who dont want to share 10-15% of there sales with the company making there sale possible, think about it, if 10-15% is a big deal how many corners are you willing to cut to make a extra buck off the buyer...it really affects ebays reputation in the end when people have poor practices...even though i like money as much as the next guy it makes perfect sense

ebay also provides health insurance and other benefits when you reach certain levels



I can only agree with some of the stuff you say.. I have sold alot of things on ebay.. But they are getting redick on the prices they are charging for you to sell items for ( res prices, BIN prices, even getting you on shipping) then you have pay pal ,that hit you again.. So the item that you are /should be selling at a good price you have to jack it up so you do not get hosed.. So they are getting rich off us.. Not to mention there is some tools on there also.. Now I duno how they are if your a business, of fees ect. CL does have its downs esp with low lifes, but it is a free place to sell your items, so it has percs also..Business or not one.. How many NEW things do you see getting sold on there( besides vehicles) Not many, the ones that are are from DEALERS( imagine that) It is all used things that PEOPLE have.. Its not a business.. Being a business there are things that need to be followed..This is just another way for the gov't to get there greedy freaking hands involved eventually.. Who cares if it is not taxed, it is our items.. People do not pay tax on them at swap meets, yard sales ect.. It is completely absurd.. Things like CL and EBAY need to exist to keep big companies in check, from high balling the hell out of all the items they sell.. The country is in a bad way because it is the big business that choke out the normal people who are trying to make a extra buck.. So the gov't has to be in on it so they can sit with their dirty pockets, corrupt ***'s fat.


John

trailrider894
01-17-2012, 06:08 PM
You guys think this is bad, you should try working for the government... In the Army, lets say you are diagnosed with PTSD or Depression, and since there isn't adequate ways to help counsel you, or they fail to recognize the issue, people start sending signs of needing help, like creating violent videos, or posting pictures of dead Iraqi's... = Dishonorable Discharge... It makes me sick... I'm sure if this is right, but i'm pretty sure i heard a guy say that since the Iraq/Afghan war started more men have died by suicide then the amount killed in the war itself.

Ruby Soho
01-17-2012, 07:44 PM
i love craigslist. sure you have to deal with idiots and young kids. but hell you can buy and sell locally way easier.

fastredrider44
01-18-2012, 07:42 AM
Has anyone tried to get on craigslist this morning???

Ichoptop
01-18-2012, 08:43 AM
SOPA is so much more than Craigslist. Its about the government picking what you can and cant see on the internet. Please do more research and contact your congress person with your thoughts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more

another good argument
http://consumerist.com/2012/01/boing-boing-has-gone-dark-heres-why.html

extremeblastr
01-18-2012, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by fastredrider44
Has anyone tried to get on craigslist this morning???


yeah i saw it about 10 minutes ago.

@SRH i'm glad your for this act, it will be because of people like you that i have to start buying and selling more on ebay and when i sell a vehicle i have to jack up the price to make up the difference in fees and when i buy one i get screwed on the price because of fees. the government doesn't need to be collecting sales tax on the same item over and over and over again just because the person who originially bought it is done with it. there is no excuse to support these because they are just an attempt at collecting more taxes and putting money in the pocket of big business.

and if your gonna tell me i'm just made because i'm not successful or i'm not getting a piece blah blah blah your wrong. i have been smart with my money and have put myself in a great place for being only 22 years old.

slightlybent47
01-18-2012, 12:36 PM
What is jacked up is anyone can flag your add for removal and so all I do is repost my ads 10 times a day because the competition keeps flagging all my ads and post there’s.
As for the bill it will never pass and is not worth my time to reply. I do object to the pop up that they have put up that comes up every time I go to CL about the bill. You have to wait 10 seconds every time you click on something on CL.

SRH
01-19-2012, 10:53 AM
im not for the bill . i just hate craigslist

i have a link direct to the rv's section so i havent had to see any pop ups


and what i was saying is , if your buying and selling do it legitimate or dont do it

of course avg joe is going to have a car or something to sell

but guys doing it for a side business isnt fair to companies doing it legally

dunner250
01-19-2012, 11:00 AM
I think the issue is not if you like CL, but the government telling you what you can and can't do. Like shutting down riding areas, what kinda car you can drive, what you can do on your property ect.

backwoodsracer
01-19-2012, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by SRH
im not for the bill . i just hate craigslist

i have a link direct to the rv's section so i havent had to see any pop ups


and what i was saying is , if your buying and selling do it legitimate or dont do it

of course avg joe is going to have a car or something to sell

but guys doing it for a side business isnt fair to companies doing it legally

What's wrong with doing it to make money?.... Some one doesn't have enough patients to sell an item for $1000 and sells for $500, I pay the $500 clean it up and sell for $1100. I find nothing wrong with that. It's recycling and not forcing you to buy new. Yeah you dont pay taxes but taxes were already payed on that product once and shouldnt bepayed again. Craigslist is how im buying my next vehicle, hell ive bought and traded every vehicle and bike ive ever had off CL. And i plan to buy my next vehicle off of there im broke as hell and can't afford to pay ridiculous dealer tax and plus They ALWAYS OVER charge you for the vehicle that isnt valude at what you pay in the end.