Walsh crf 2012 build

[john willhoite]

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/walsh.jpg

[89trx250r]

Very nice! Looking forward to seeing this come together...Did you build the JIG yourself? What frame geometry is it?

[250Renvy]

Looks beefy. I wonder what will have taken more time - making the jig or building the frame?

[john willhoite]

Its not my jig.

Its my new Walsh Hybrid being born!

[CADWELL]

Very nice man !

Is it the new LTR/CRF FI bike?

If so how much do you think it will end up costing to build ?

[john willhoite]

Yes, it's the new hybrid.
I am keeping track of what it cost.
So I will know a grand total in the end.
It is going to be alot. I don't know if I should post how much everything is, it would just give people reason to be critical.

[89trx250r]

You get what you pay for in life john dont let haters even phase you. I think you made a hell of a step in the right direction :)

[250Renvy]

Originally posted by john willhoite
Yes, it's the new hybrid.
I am keeping track of what it cost.
So I will know a grand total in the end.
It is going to be alot. I don't know if I should post how much everything is, it would just give people reason to be critical.

As long as you know it's not an investment, you will never see a monetary gain, it will be money well spent.

[john willhoite]

The way I look at it:
I'm 38 years old and this will be the last quad I ever buy.

So everything on it is going to be just how I want it.

[mx Eli]

you'd be better off having people pm or call you if they really want the price of everything. haters wont go threw that trouble

[protraxrptr17]

You gonna let me ride it John? JK, is it gonna be ready for round 1?

[john willhoite]

Zeb, only if I get to ride yours.

[89trx250r]

Woah woah i dont wanna get offtopic here but protraxraptor i would love to see a picture of that ktm/raptor hybrid in your sig...is it a raptor motor in a ktm frame or viceversa?

[rollie]

Originally posted by 89trx250r
Woah woah i dont wanna get offtopic here but protraxraptor i would love to see a picture of that ktm/raptor hybrid in your sig...is it a raptor motor in a ktm frame or viceversa?

Not to hijack this thread but he has some pictures posted here

http://www.yfzcentral.com/forum/13-images-other-media/51306-pics-my-raptor-ktm-hybrid.html

Anyway this hybrid will be awesome cant wait to see it all done!!! yes it will be alot of money but in all seriousness, by the time your done building a walsh anything the tab will be huge, but it's worth every dime:D

[protraxrptr17]

Originally posted by rollie
Not to hijack this thread but he has some pictures posted here

http://www.yfzcentral.com/forum/13-images-other-media/51306-pics-my-raptor-ktm-hybrid.html

Anyway this hybrid will be awesome cant wait to see it all done!!! yes it will be alot of money but in all seriousness, by the time your done building a walsh anything the tab will be huge, but it's worth every dime:D

John, you can ride it anytime.


Rollie, I have made some updates since all of those pics were taken. I have posted some of em here. Prolly can still see em with a search. New twin cam engine, new front end design, etc

[john willhoite]

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1369.jpg

[MisterGraphic]

wow, nice and beefy! Thanks for posting

[protraxrptr17]

What color is it gonna be? You gonna put PEPs on it?

[john willhoite]

Black and yellow

I am going with race tech shocks.

They are doing some. Custom color and titanium springs

[ytman]

Call me stupid. What part of the frame is that last pic of?

[89trx250r]

That is a picture of where the steering stem bushing mounts

[john willhoite]

today I got
Frame, Subframe, and steering stem.
I ordered the whole thing on 11/01/11

Kinda thinking it should be quicker.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1656.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1657.jpg

weighed it for fun
frame 40.25 lbs
subframe 6.25

[Kawie450r]

Awesome build man. I wish I could afford that hybrid.

[MisterGraphic]

I guess you can't rush perfection...
Seriously that frame looks awesome!

[laeger400]

The chassis is dialed. I think you got it in a reasonable time frame. You gotta figure in thanksgiving Christmas and new years. Plus the turn around time for the powdercoater.

You won't even remember how long you waited after the first time you ride it.

Jerry

[john willhoite]

yeah, I'm in a crappy mood today.

Still waiting on swingarm, gas tank, a arms, and a couple of other little things.

Its hard to wait patiently for this kinda stuff.

[89trx250r]

They probably are making a bunch of stuff considering Europe has a huge market for hybrids they sold the first bunch of them to people over seas and not to mention like laeger400 said all the holidays fall in between then and now. But she is a beauty and i love the sun yellow color :) cant wait to see it come together!

[atvrider13]

Looks very nice!!! Just out of curiousity, how much does the frame and subframe weigh?

[john willhoite]

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1674.jpg

The look I'm going for.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1678.jpg

[03trx400]

already looks sweet, sorry if i missed it but what motor are you putting in?

[john willhoite]

450 crf fuel injected motor

[john willhoite]

showed up today.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1689.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1688.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1691.jpg

[89trx250r]

Nicee dude! does that motor come with the kit from walsh or did you get it thru service honda or a dealer? shes beauitful and so fresh cant wait to see it in the frame :)

[laeger2fiddyr]

Yeah did you buy the motor from service honda? Just curious as to where you got it from? Cant wait to see the finished product!

[john willhoite]

I bought the motor from a place called Keep It Roostin. They were parting out a brand new bike. Got all the electronics, fuel pump and throttle body.

3 months and still waiting on parts from Walsh. Lack swingarm, gas tank, linkage and kicker extension.

I cant believe how lite it is, of course the last motor I had in my hands was my kids 300ex motor. This motor feels like it weighs 40lbs, I am going to weigh it today.

[danhung11]

Very nice! I'm jealous...

Looking forward to seeing this come together.

[john willhoite]

This is very cool!

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1720.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1721.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1723.jpg

[hwf-racing]

Nice John!!!! Let me know when your going to sell it so I can buy it from you!!!!! Derek

[jjohns5]

Originally posted by hwf-racing
Nice John!!!! Let me know when your going to sell it so I can buy it from you!!!!! Derek

Yeah, I'd like to know what kind of cash would have to be put on the table to purchase this fine piece...Lol!!!

[john willhoite]

Originally posted by jjohns5
Yeah, I'd like to know what kind of cash would have to be put on the table to purchase this fine piece...Lol!!!

The sad part is not near as much as i am spending on it!

[huntertaylor98]

how much is this thing going to cost you

[89trx250r]

To be conservative id say 15,000-20,000$ that was easily what it cost to build walsh hybrids and a nasty 250r back in the day....Hell a lobo frame used to cost 12,000 :x

[rooster408]

more pics

[john willhoite]

this is basically where I'm at.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1726.jpg

Been waiting on bolts finally came so I can start putting it together.
Trying some titanium bolts.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1727.jpg

[ryanowarrior]

Good lord.....very nice table of parts.. Where'd ya get them titanium bolts at?

[john willhoite]

a-arms on, nice titanium bolts from fourwerx carbon!

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1732.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1740.jpg

[fandl450r]

I'm literally drooling at this. SOOO Awesome. Can't wait to see more progress.

Jason does a great job with those bolts!

[hontrx265r]

Very curious to know the geometry differences between this and an actual oem frame. I thought the rear was identical, but the front seems narrower then stock, but not as narrow as a walsh R chassis. His quotes say "loosely based off ltr"

[quadcrazy02]

Gona be sweet!!!!

[250x_kyle]

looks sweet. where did you get the bolts

[hwf-racing]

Awsome John!!!!!!

[john willhoite]

got the final parts from Walsh today.
Gas tank
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1756.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1757.jpg
swing arm, linkage, very cool pivot bolt.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1758.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1759.jpg

Misc.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1760.jpg

[hontrx265r]

Looks great time to put in work! One of the things I'm most impressed with in Walsh's new stuff is the attention to detail. That's what I would want in my stuff, and its the extra mile in atv land. Great job, on a truly "finished" product Walsh!

[quadcrazy02]

After looking at this thing, i went to the barn and threw rocks at my walsh crf!! lol That is going to be one bad ars machine!!!

[426kidz]

pretty sure this is everyones dream bike:D :D

[jrspawn]

You got yourself one sick quad! Looks great and can't wait to see it finished!!!

[john willhoite]

fuel pump mounted.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1772.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1773.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1774.jpg

[jjohns5]

Doesn't get any better than this...makes me want to get started on my Walsh...very nice!!!

[protraxrptr17]

You better hurry up. Two weeks left. What is the swingarm bolt made of?

[john willhoite]

handlebars.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1814.jpg

Just one of the many parts ive been waiting on...a seat latch!
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1815.jpg

[426kidz]

pretty sure the bolts titanium..;)

[john willhoite]

I do have quite a bit of titanium but The swingarm bolt is not titanium.
I think it's stainless. It is a work of art. The middle section is turned down.

[426kidz]

the whole entire bike is a work of art!:macho

[john willhoite]

well, got 6 titanium bolts in today.
So I got to put the brake rotors on.

Now waiting again.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1817.jpg

[madskrillz2]

I want one of these so bad. I'm drooling right now. I love the way mine handles but always wished it was lighter and that's exactly what these new hybrids are. Guess I can dream

[mcwilly]

D@mn, John!!! I just saw this thread (came across it from the title change thread in the open forum). Very impressive!
You gonna have it ready by this weekend?! Are you running pro or pro-am with this bike? :D

[txquadjunkie]

Great hand-me down to Creed!!! :D

[john willhoite]

Feels kinda weird to ship a brand new motor off to be built.

Creed is for sure a lucky kid. He allready has his eye on it.


http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1818.jpg

[hontrx265r]

funny thing is.. it should feel "right" because that is the way it should be.. haha

[joeb2300]

Your gonna have a nice bike! Do you know if the older CRF engines weigh more or less than the EFI?

[adrenalinjunky]

You should have Walsh give you a discount for creating this thread. ;) It sure is making me, and apparently a lot of others, want to get one of these. Great build.

[john willhoite]

front hubs and brakes are on.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1826.jpg

Chain slider on, and chain rollers on the frame.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1828.jpg

[john willhoite]

got the radiator mounted.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1832.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1834.jpg

[Kawie450r]

God i love this build.

[motochamp250]

Did ya'll modify the Precision, or the LTR one work? just curious. awesome build so far!

[john willhoite]

Originally posted by motochamp250
Did ya'll modify the Precision, or the LTR one work? just curious. awesome build so far!

Walsh has the mount to make it work.

[john willhoite]

slow progress
Can anyone tell me the difference in 09 and 08 spindles? They have diff part numbers.

rear bumper on
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1851.jpg

Odi grips are super easy dont know why i've never used them before.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1844.jpg

How it sits: black streamline brake lines
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1852.jpg

[hontrx265r]

John you may or may not love the odi... I thought the same thing till I put my big hand on it and realized its a narrow feel because of the clamps.

[Lynch01ex]

thats going to be a amazing bike!! also were did you get that stand in the last pic?

[john willhoite]

the stand is a trackside.
Best stand ever (kinda pricey though)

got the rear brake lever on.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1854.jpg

[john willhoite]

little progress.


motor work is done!
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1924.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1925.jpg

after market fan.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1932.jpg

Shocks w/titanium springs
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1931.jpg

[89trx250r]

Hell yea man she's coming along nicely! Your gonna have to let us know how you like those race tech's once you get to ride them! I have read many good things about them but noone ever seems to be using them... Always fox/pep

[protrax]

Nice build it is coming along very well .
Are you doing any head work ? What is the comp on that piston?

[john willhoite]

14:1 je pro series piston
stage 2 hot cam
head is ported
complete hinson clutch

[panici33]

That's going to be an awesome machine; Great build! I first saw this set up in last month's Dirtwheels; theirs was around 350lbs with 50-55hp!

Is the frame only compatible Walsh parts i.e. a-arms, swingarm, stem, etc?

If I remember right, the one in Dirtwheels had primarily LTR450 parts?

[hwf-racing]

Wow, the build is awesome! I can't wait to see it done. What does your son say about it ? I still have your Raptor and I just finished my hybrid build on the practice Raptor. Put a Crf 250 in the little Raptor frame. Very quick and much lighter. I'll keep looking for updated pics...can't wait to the finished product!

[jackrb100]

Any more progress with this build? It's unreal!

[john willhoite]

Kinda slowed down, waiting on little parts.

the motor is totally in.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_2012.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_2013.jpg

[john willhoite]

rear shock is on.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/w6racing/IMG_1960.jpg

[protrax]

sexy :devil:

[benbuilt4u]

so sick!!!

[beastlywarrior]

come on john you gonna finish this thing

[john willhoite]

Well, we have totally gotten out of racing.
so the Quad has taken a back seat.

I am going to sell it.

It just hurt me to type that.

[beastlywarrior]

booooo for what maybe i can sell off my life to buy it

[beastlywarrior]

i say throw walsh xc arms on it and have a trail beast

[Kawie450r]

Damn this sucks to hear. Such a sick build.

[250Renvy]

Originally posted by john willhoite
Well, we have totally gotten out of racing.
so the Quad has taken a back seat.

I am going to sell it.

It just hurt me to type that.


I don't know who you were building it for - yourself or son? But unless you are hurting for money, there is no way you should sell it before finishing it and riding for at least a season. Even with everything brand new you'd probably only get back 75% of costs.

[john willhoite]

We have raced for the past 5 years.
So basically we havent gone on vacation or any trip other than racing. My wife got a bit tired of it and wanted to change.

We live on 30 acres and even have a really nice mx track. We just sold our house and have bought a house on a golf course.

So I am selling my dream life. Land, ATVs, Toyhauler, F-450, my cool tractor, all so my kids can go to school where there mother wants them to.

She has done everything me and my 4 boys have wanted for the last 5 years, so I dont feel to bad giving it all up.

I plan on getting good at golf. However I would like to take the quad on the golf course I think i could clear at least 5 of the greens.

[chronicsmoke]

Haha roostin' in the sand traps!

Too bad you have to sell it, it looks amazing.

[panici33]

Women...From experience, you can't go from racing quads to golf without being miserable. You'll be back.

Good luck! I am sure someone will snatch this build up quick.

[Balaz_73*00]

Dude dont sell it! Even if you are moving and getting outa the sport. I wouldnt sell unless you really are hurting for money. Keep it as a garage queen even if it only gets rode 1-2 times a year. I saw you have your can-am for sale too. build your dream and hang on to her.

[kt23]

at one point i said i would quit racing and start fishing. Didnt last, no more MX but i race XC once a month and ride more than i ever did before.

[Quad18star]

How much?

[diangelo#67]

yeah ditto how much.....if you decide to sell it

mad@tdplumbing.com

[diangelo#67]

yeah ditto how much.....if you decide to sell it

mad@tdplumbing.com

[QuadR8cer12]

:D :D :D :D

[quadcrazy02]

Originally posted by QuadR8cer12
:D :D :D :D

I would have a chit eatin grin too!!! Lol

[ss440ex]

X2...
Lucky you!

[QuadR8cer12]

Its going to be a little bit before I get her all together. I have to send the radiator and water pump cover to walsh to have modified. Also after to order a few thing here and there to get it all ready. I am super excited though!

[QuadR8cer12]

Taking her home

[QuadR8cer12]

Another

[fandl450r]

Soooo awesome! Going to be nice Austin!

[madskrillz2]

Damn I want one of those so bad.

[triplejay30349]

hey man what kind of floor is that?! i want to do that in my garage

[QuadR8cer12]

It is a designer metallic epoxy flooring system that our company installs using a high build, 100% solid industrial epoxy.

[QuadR8cer12]

It is a designer metallic epoxy flooring system that our company installs using a high build, 100% solid industrial epoxy.

[triplejay30349]

Originally posted by QuadR8cer12
It is a designer metallic epoxy flooring system that our company installs using a high build, 100% solid industrial epoxy.

Oh ok cool. So can the materials be purchased and self installed or does the company have to do it?

[jjohns5]

The new Hybrids are nice, I just wish Walsh would set these up to run the Trx450r or 250r plastics, Ltr plastics are horrible.

[hontrx265r]

I'm sure they can make it look however u want. Just takes $$$$ . When the trxmxr came out I thought it was awful it's evolved and is better now with hoods and what not. But I think the yfz and ltr are the best looking bikes out there and much more slim and trim around the tank.

[QuadR8cer12]

Originally posted by triplejay30349
Oh ok cool. So can the materials be purchased and self installed or does the company have to do it?

I would recommend having a professional install it. Materials alone for my two car garage cost me a little over $1,000 for the epoxy. It is some tough stuff though. Not like your cheap home depot stuff that peels off in a few months.

An average job I do for my customers on a two car garage normally costs around $3,000+ to install these systems.

[QuadR8cer12]

another

[QuadR8cer12]

with her shirt on. Cant wait for my media allstar graphics to get here!

[triplejay30349]

Originally posted by QuadR8cer12
another

Ok cool. I checked out the site and realized it was more of a professional install job. I definitely want to go this rite when I add on my detached garage/man cave. Do you guys only do installs in TX?

[QuadR8cer12]

If the price is right I would go to GA but it would cost ya a ton! lol

I AM SELLING THE RACE TECH SHOCKS OFF THIS BIKE IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED!

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=493235

[TuckerHardRide]

How much did you pick the quad up for?

[QuadR8cer12]

$25,000

[TuckerHardRide]

Dang that's a lot of money, hell of a quad though. Can't wait to see this finished completely. When are you going to see a video of it running?

[Balaz_73*00]

Originally posted by QuadR8cer12
$25,000

Wow. I know someone that completed theirs for around 12K

[250Renvy]

Originally posted by Balaz_73*00
Wow. I know someone that completed theirs for around 12K


Stupid post of the day.

Shocks, motor, plastic, rims/tires ++++

for $3400 - ha ha ha.

[Balaz_73*00]

Have you heard of sponsorphips?

[250Renvy]

That's not comparing apples to apples.

Average Joe's here, not pro racers.

[89trx250r]

Yea I don't know if you were fishing with that comment or what but who gives a ****? It would have been cooler if you told us your friend built one for 50,000$ and had the entire head gold plated....But what you said was just pointless.

[Balaz_73*00]

The point was I just have a hard time believing he paid 25000 for an unfinished quad. Is he fishing for people to be envious? *shrugs shoulders*

[hontrx265r]

It was pretty much finished. If u read the build u can see where and why it cost so much...very viable. Tons of titanium. All new components. New motor with headwork Hinson etc.. no he didn't get it gifted at half price like everyone buying thinks they are entitled, but got what he paid for. Go build one envious. Show us how cheap u can do it, so we can all oooo and ahhh.

[jjohns5]

Lets all drink a beer, get laid and move on, it's Saturday...

[frank mb]

Does anyone know how it rides compared to a LTR for instance.

[QuadR8cer12]

I have raced suzukis for a few years. The way it rides feels closer to a suzuki than the old school 250r hybrids. It doesnt feel like a 250r hybrid at all really. The bike feels extremely light in the air. With how light the machine is the power transfer awesome. It really gets the power to the ground fast. Very fun to ride! I have gotten the front end dialed in pretty well. I am excited to get some fox shocks on it and see how it rides.

[QuadR8cer12]

Some pics from last weekends race

[QuadR8cer12]

last moto of the day was a mud fest. I was sad to have to take the new girl in all the nasty mud!

[danhung11]

Glad to see this bike was finished! I'm not sure if you guys saw this, Cody Gibson's Hybrid is for sale. I guess it's owned by Walsh.

http://walshrc.com/quads-for-sale.html

[danhung11]

Glad to see this bike was finished! I'm not sure if you guys saw this, Cody Gibson's Hybrid is for sale. I guess it's owned by Walsh.

http://walshrc.com/quads-for-sale.html

[quadcrazy02]

Austin i believe i would have had to take a DNS on that last moto, there is no way in hell i would take Wally out in the mud, just saying


Originally posted by QuadR8cer12
last moto of the day was a mud fest. I was sad to have to take the new girl in all the nasty mud!

[laeger2fiddyr]

Originally posted by quadcrazy02
Austin i believe i would have had to take a DNS on that last moto, there is no way in hell i would take Wally out in the mud, just saying

For sure!! I got to much money stuck into my Walsh Trx. I would've loaded it up!!:)

[QuadR8cer12]

Gotta make sure to get the points for the championship!

[madskrillz2]

Originally posted by danhung11
Glad to see this bike was finished! I'm not sure if you guys saw this, Cody Gibson's Hybrid is for sale. I guess it's owned by Walsh.

http://walshrc.com/quads-for-sale.html

That's not the hybrid

[Kawie450r]

The hybrid was for sale under his ltr a day or 2 ago.

[madskrillz2]

Ah I see. Must have went quick lol

[honda250xrider]

By chance do you know what header you are using on your quad? Or was it all custom done? Im wondering if the 04-05 trx headpipes have the right angle to fit on the head and inside the ltr frame.

[patrickj75]

Originally posted by honda250xrider
By chance do you know what header you are using on your quad? Or was it all custom done? Im wondering if the 04-05 trx headpipes have the right angle to fit on the head and inside the ltr frame.

Dasa sold Walsh an unwelded exhuast for their hybrid. The headpipe looks similar to the stock 09-12 CRF.