good ol rebuild

[01boneless]

i dont know about you guys but i love reading rebuild threads!!! so thought id make one for my quad im about half way done but ill just go thro what iv done so far . im rebuilding on a budget for mx/light trail use. nothin hardcore either lol it came with a ton of aftermarkets so ill add some more stuff as i go. the motor is going to be a strong pump gas set up JE 12:5:1 piston wiseco cam chain and HRC or hotcam stage2. here are a few pics when i started (beat) also please let me know what ya think and comments suggestions are also welcome :D

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1 more notice the white spray painted frame :huh

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here is a pic of the motor (real greesey and dirty) anyone know how to shine the cases up looking new?

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valve cover head and cylinder

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i already got the chasis striped and painted also was bored one day and painted the valve cover water pump cover clutch cable bracket cam chain tentioner timming caps and some misc motor parts black :P here is the striped frame

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and here it is painted on the stand

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roller (where it is now) still need to clean the wheels and tires sorry there dirty

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gonna shine the radiator and clean the wiring harness a little dusty from befor and clean the tires recived graphics today and a laker custom hood. gonna set it on the bike and snap a pic tomarrow got a clutch perch (shorty) scored on ebay for 20.00!!! need grips and bar pad for the bars. misc stuff i need is skids,jets,grab bar cv hoses and bla bla lol got all that on rmatv just need to order when im ready and in a few weeks ill get the full motor rebuild kit from hondaeast toledo !! TELL ME WHAT YA GUYS THINK!!!

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here is the graphics i got . i have installed them on the plastic already and sat them on the bike looks good but no motor or little stuff so no pics of that till its done here is the ghraphics

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also dont even know if he is on here anymore but i read all of staajk (i think was the name) rebuild (beast by the way) and his motor was clean spotless with mag cleaner anyone else tried that?

[Balaz_73*00]

^^^ Yup the mag cleaner works great. I read about that last year wheb I did my rebuild, tried it, and it does work

[Baileygunns]

Just make sure you read the directions... It will leave white streaks on the motor if you let it sit to long.

[01boneless]

sounds good ima snap pics of th eplastic with graphics and the new hood :P

[DnB_racing]

pic is before kicker was installed

just some 0000 steel wool, and mothers mag and aluminum polish,and some elbow grease...but it doesnt stay shinny for long,its not really worth the time I took to polish it,

still looks good but after a couple times of letting mud bake on it, the glaze comes back

[01boneless]

wow tht must have took forever between the water pum and clytch cover!!!:eek2:

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by 01boneless
wow tht must have took forever between the water pum and clytch cover!!!:eek2: it wasn't too bad.. I had the cover off...

one night of insomnia and it was done, but I dont think it was worht it... the shine litterally lasted one ride, then the heat from the motor and the mud baking on while riding, made it look almost like I never polished it.

I dont think I would do it again, unless,I wasn't planning on riding it ever again,

its great if you just want to look at it, but if you want to ride it then its too much trouble...

then my first ride I found myself not even wanting to get it dirty.
I still keep mine clean now but I dont want to worry about getting it dirty, it wasn't as much fun riding thinking about missing the mud and water crossing.... NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE

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yeah but i gotta do something look at this

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welp got the cases shined with mag cleaner this stuff is great good way to polish in little effort. ill get a bunch of pics tomarrow

[finsteratv]

did you say you need bars?

[01boneless]

nah pro taper bar pad for my bars.

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my graphics and new laker hood :D

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where it is now

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wow does no one like rebuild anymore i know i love to read thro and follow them lol

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by 01boneless
wow does no one like rebuild anymore i know i love to read thro and follow them lol LOL

looks great please more!!!please please please

how did you do it

what colors are you choosing

cant wait for more

subscribed:blah:

[01boneless]

^^wow someone is in a smart *** mood today :devil: haha JK thanks for subing lol

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by 01boneless
^^wow someone is in a smart *** mood today :devil: haha JK thanks for subing lol LOL ya Im just bored I guess(trying to save money for christmas so I did nothing much today)...and i spent too much time in the open section today arguing mute points lol


really tho it does look good.. but get some better pics,

and i am curious how the mag cleaner did I would like to see some before and after of that

[01boneless]

Originally posted by DnB_racing
LOL ya Im just bored I guess...and i spent too much time in the open section today arguing mute points lol


really tho it does look good.. but get some better pics,

and i am curious how the mag cleaner did I would like to see some before and after of that

glad you asked i forgot to post pics of that lol sorry my camera is a little blurry . this is the motor all assembled with the black parts to and cleaned with eagle one mag cleaner. (no piston valves timming chain or cam in it lol ) but first a befor pic

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clean :D

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also anyone looking to do a rebuild hit up honda east toledo for parts !! there a site sponcer!!. im ordering
JE piston 12:5:1
shim kit
wiseco cam chain
top end gasket (cometic)
both side cover gaskets all for only 300.00 bucks shipped!!!!
and if i need a cylinder there only 200.00!!! great prices from what ive compared to other places. anyway here is another motor pic after being cleaned

[01boneless]

well its weird but i got a 02 crf cam on the way and a 06crf (new HRC) on the way lol . also recived my hellbound clutch perch. now i need motor parts bar pad grips seat cover grab bar skid plate jets.

[chronicsmoke]

you really need a camera, boneless! :blah:

[01boneless]

lol no the camera takes mint photos just i have no resizing program so it makes them fuzzy when i blow em up on art lol.

[AtvKid4Eva]

import them into Photobucket or a similar site and then just link them in your posts. They will be crystal clear! :macho

[01boneless]

ok ill try that! recived the 02 crf cam today the hrc deal fell thro so thats ok i guess. got a bunch of parts on the way stay tuned

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well im also gonna instal a hotrod crank. anyone know where to get ferrea valves?

[chronicsmoke]

Originally posted by 01boneless
well im also gonna instal a hotrod crank. anyone know where to get ferrea valves?

Use updated OEM Bearings if you use the Hot Rod crank.

[01boneless]

^^ no doubt anyone afraid of kibblewhite like me?

[chronicsmoke]

I've used some of their stuff (guides, springs, valves on the 400ex) with no ill effects yet..

[01boneless]

well im shipping my head to venom to have it p&ped and need some good valves but i seen kw break idk may go with oem valves.this went from a small build to 12:5:1 p&p valves hotrod crank cyinder hc stage 2 uhh i have alot of work to do.....

[chronicsmoke]

Originally posted by 01boneless
well im shipping my head to venom to have it p&ped and need some good valves but i seen kw break idk may go with oem valves.this went from a small build to 12:5:1 p&p valves hotrod crank cyinder hc stage 2 uhh i have alot of work to do.....

Dont fret, you've got months before the season starts back up.

My 450 is still sitting with a snapped steering stem and broken ball joint from cartwheeling last practice I went to (5-6 weeks ago). Not planning on swapping parts until after X-Mas. I want to ship my head to Venom this year too, but we shall see. I also 'need' a CR Ignition on my 250r to go with the sparks 280 jug I picked up, and I want to do something with the EX (kickstart conversion or 250r hybrid)

Too many projects, not enough time.... :(

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hurry john said ill be one of the last heads because he is going to slow down after new years. yeah i should have it done by febuary

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not to much of a update at xmas ill have cv hoses, cases saver seat and cover sprokets grab bar and front wheels. then in mid january im gonn aget all my motor parts at once so i can hurry it together. but xmas evining check back im gonna have the whole quad assembled and shinned up minus the engine just to sorta see the product may set the engine in the frame to :p

[DnB_racing]

Ive been keeping an eye on your build,

haven't replied much, but im following your progress, keep up,the good work and dont rush you have time till season is here

looking great so far,

Ill be starting a lsr no link framed 350r build after the first of the year, and then ill be making my 450 motor yearly changes,

I haven't decided on what ill be doing yet, but Im pretty sure ill be putting my crf head on, im just trying to decide if its worth having that head done up or just keeping it stock..

i Haven't heard of anyone having there crf ported for the trx, and im not sure who has the right flow designs for the head porting to work best with the heavier quads...

i still have some homework to do

[01boneless]

come to think of it the crf heads make great power imagine a ported one!!! unless it would make to much flow and lose power :confused: idk worth a shot!!

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by 01boneless
come to think of it the crf heads make great power imagine a ported one!!! unless it would make to much flow and lose power :confused: idk worth a shot!! ya that's what im afraid of, I haven't seen or heard of anyone that's done it yet, but im looking into the possibilities of porting for arm ripping power LOL:macho

[Lquad71]

I have my opinions about those hotrods cranks but im just throwing facts out there just. Dasa, Sparks, and CT racing all have told me personally not to use those rods which i found out from a previous engine builder. None of them recommend using them so im just passing the information on to you. You can also call them if you like.

[01boneless]

ok thanks you ill look into it what would be a option the updated honda crank??

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by 01boneless
ok thanks you ill look into it what would be a option the updated honda crank?? falcon all the way:devil:

just kidding... that is unless you can afford a falcon, but if you could afford the falcon you wouldn't be rebuilding this quad, because money wouldn't matter.lol

you could go OEM, or at least use OEM bearings

but SOOOOOO many have ran hotrods with no more issues then oem,just make sure its balanced, and properly installed,

you will have just as much a chance of any crank failure if not balanced whether it be oem, wiseco, or hotrods

I wouldn't worry about hotrods, just do it right... they might have a bad rep with the builders,

but there a a lot of them out there compared to many other types, I would guess the ratio of failure isn't much worse then replacement OEM

[01boneless]

lol definitly cant do a falicon lol i was going stock stroke hotrod with oem bearings anyway but was told i wouldent need it balenced unless i was stroking it +3?

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by 01boneless
lol definitly cant do a falicon lol i was going stock stroke hotrod with oem bearings anyway but was told i wouldent need it balenced unless i was stroking it +3? you might not NEED to have balanced, but I like how smooth the balanced cranks are compared to not being balanced... you can definitely feel the difference in the vibration on the bottom of your feet and palms of your hands

and if you can feel the vibration then im sure the bearings can feel it also

[01boneless]

true but i dont think it would be REAL serious with a stock stroke if so ill get a updated honda crank. even tho hotrods SAY they come balenced. are you on org?

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got some stuff for xmas keep in mind the quad is NOT done yet but the chasis or body whatever is done everything but the motor is finished.

grab bar

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pro factory red hoses

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seat one industries

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case saver moose

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bump i have not had internet for a weeek so no updates yet tho

[TheAwesomehonda]

Wow 6 pages that long!

[01boneless]

just shipped the head out to quadified to get ported,+1 exhaust valves ferrea valves,seats cut,and WEB spring kit

[chronicsmoke]

Originally posted by 01boneless
just shipped the head out to quadified to get ported,+1 exhaust valves ferrea valves,seats cut,and WEB spring kit

Sick:cool:

[01boneless]

Originally posted by chronicsmoke
Sick:cool:

thanks :D

[chronicsmoke]

How much is that costing you? My local guy will port it, but he doesn't have the experience porting crf/trx 450s. Most of his work is on supermoto/sidecar racing engines

[01boneless]

553.00 for porting, new ferreas, oversize seats, and web spring kit. add Bruno holnaider on fb he will work with on on prices and customer servise is seconed to none! add me to lol

[chronicsmoke]

PM'd you

[01boneless]

bruno from quidified racing got my head done here are some pics he sent me :D also anyone following the build add me on facebook bryosn elliott lot of pics there also
head has mx porting,+1 ferrea exhaust valves ,ferrea intake valves,carb boot to match porting,WEB valve springs,bronze valve guides (exhaust ),fresh seats :)

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[chronicsmoke]

Looks good:cool:

[01boneless]

thanks man

[DnB_racing]

interesting port work!!... looking good,

keep us posted on the performance.. too bad you didnt have time on the quad for a before and after power difference.

just curious why didnt you have it decked?

[01boneless]

thanks man!!
i had enough time on it to remember the power (if that makes sence) so ill be able to tell the diff to bad i couldent of had a before and after dyno test.
on the deck...idk realy haha guess since i am getting high comp piston (12:1) i dident think i would need it. I dont realy know what decking does ....other than add some compression right? also im realy afraid of valve and piston clearence ever since i seen my buddy thro a valve thro a 30sec piston lmao ... thanks guys!!

[DnB_racing]

thats right, i forgot your still trying to keep it on pump gas...

ya decking raises compression.. but it does also require a little more work, as it slightly changes timing, ive used adjustable cam sprockets and had to dial in the cam timing...


I like high compression, when its set up properly:)

[01boneless]

haha yea trying to stick with pump if i could get some race gas closer to me i would get some 14:1 ;)

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bumper i bought for the 450
blingstar dc racer

[01boneless]

will have everything to finish the build from quadified monday or tuesday and should be done by the weekend!!! LOTS of GOOD pics im getting a new camera so they should be clear'er pics

[chad502ex]

Originally posted by 01boneless
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Good luck with your build.

[01boneless]

thanks chad!

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pics with the new camera. still need to mess with the settings but its better than the other camera.

filter cage before modding

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after. just to keep the cv4 filter from colasping

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jet kit from JetsRus.com

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got my moose (hinson) clutch basket,and tusk clutch with HD springs

[01boneless]

hope this tusk clutch works good.....

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well everything to finish the build will be here monday or tuesday. they actully sent me the recalled crank (dident know they even existed still) so it was sent back for the updated crank

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got everything to finish the motor from quadified racing heres what came
cp 12:0:1 piston
oem full gasket kit
main bearings
oem crank
shift shaft
wiseco cam chain
NEW oem cylinder
dasa intake ring
here are some pics of some stuff .i took everything that goes in the bottomend to be installed with the new crank. so no pics of that stuff sorry:(
dasa ring

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oem topend gasket kit

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cp piston

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oem cylinder

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!!!!!update!!!! the quad is done, i got the motor in BIG thanks to blackandblue for putting the crank and bottomend together for me! it runs but needs a new carb cause mine is acting up it to many ways. hopefullt the big honda shop 50 miles from me will have one i can get and some jets and i can break it in. then there will be finished pics! it looks awsome!

[01boneless]

pics to the finished quad here!!!>>>http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4235105#post4235105