Aftermarket spindles for 250r?

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Looking for a set of 89 spindles for my build.Cant seem to find an aftermarket company that makes them.Dont really want to use 400 ex or 450r spindles.

[rk88r]

Don't know if anyone makes them. Probably have get a used set.

[87TRX310R]

As far as I know there isn't any aftermarket spindles made for any quad past or present.

[Higgy87TRX425]

Aren't you forgetting Laeger T-pin spindles and Lonestar T-pin spindles (if you can find them)? Also I know that some of the aftermarket framebuilding companies that make drag chassis or hillshooter chassis, run an aftermarket hand made spindles too! So the is a few options, but its you're not gonna be able to find them real easy, it will take a little searching, but if you're commited you'll find what you're after!!! Thanks Higgy!

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Thanks for the replys.I just traded my modded yfz with cracked cases to a guy for a brand new lrd aluminum frame and a fresh ct 330 moter,and a couple boxes of parts.Just started ordering parts a-arms and front shocks.Cant seem to find a set of 89 spindles.So if anyone has a pair let me know.Much appreciated.

[trx250racer]

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! i wanted that frame sooooo bad. just bad timing i guess. you are talking about the brand new blue anodized Lrd frame right?? make sure you save the original box.. thats a cool piece as well.

don't think you are going to find any stock replacement aftermarket spindles for the trx250r. i think that nice set of aluminum 400ex or 450r spindles with titanium shafts would suite that frame well. IMO

[deathman53]

get 400ex spindles and yfz450 front brakes. A set of caliper adapters for 250r-400ex spindles will cost you $200. People started using the 400ex spindles since 99 and it wasn't because 88 or 89's were discontinued(as they are now). 400ex brakes suck, hense the reason for yfz450, they fit right on.

[800screws]

not sure if they still make them, but jrd used to make billet spindles....u have to call them to find out.

[Lasher]

I used the 06+ TRX450R spindles and TRX450R brakes instead of the 400ex.

Far as I could tell the later model spindles are the same as the 400ex. My Walsh chassis has 400ex/adapter set up but my kids Walsh has the 06 set up. I could not tell a difference. between the two (other than caliper mounting).

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Yes,its the blue one and in the box,not sure what year it is though.So my options are 400ex spindles,and if i use yfz brakes i do or dont need adapter ?Or trx450 spindles & brakes&hubs,does all those parts bolt right on?By the way im new at site,so if im not doing this right i apoligize.

[deathman53]

yfz brakes bolt right on, no adapters needed. Also, JRD is out of business, they have been for atleast a year.

[trx/lt500r]

JRD made spindles, i have a set but they are 400ex style and require the adapter to run 250r brakes. They are pretty cool.

JRD would have never returned your call anyway, even when they were "in business" they never returned phone calls (sorry disgruntled).

[JOHNNY FIVE]

So i need a set 400ex spindles,and im sure i can get a sweet set of aftermarket hubs,and a pair of yfz brakes.Everything bolts right up like tie rods or anything else without modafication?

[Higgy87TRX425]

I have a quick ? or you 250r Guru's. I resently bought a complete set of Honda trx 250r front brakes complete with the adapeters to bolt the 250r dual piston calipers to the 400ex spindles. My question is should I splurge on the YZf calipers for upfront to run those spindles or stick with the Honda Trx 250r dual caliper pitons? Will the dfference gonna be that significate or is it the difference truely noticable? I normanlly ride dunes mainly. Some feed back would be much apreciated. Sorry for the high jacked thread, but I've been thinking about the idea rercently??? Thnaks Higgy!

[Derrick Adams]

I have a set of 89 spindles, hubs, and complete front brakes for $150 if that helps.

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Are they in good shape?

[JOHNNY FIVE]

So im coming to understand going to the 400ex setup is a performance upgrade,rather than a lack of finding 250r parts?And why do more people seem to go with 400ex spindles & yfz brakes over trx 450 spindles trx 450 brakes?Are the 450 spindles not aluminum,or as good as the 400ex spindles?Or do they not mount without modafication?

[sameltoe]

450r are aluminum and dual piston. 04/5 have better turning radius than the 06 up. Now compared to 250r; I have no clue.

[JOHNNY FIVE]

So would you guys say that the 400ex,or trx 450,or 89 stock spindles are the way to go?Not trying to start debate.I promise.I just want to find the best way possible, with performance in mind.And without modafication or restictions if possible.All input is greatly appreciated.

[deathman53]

people have reported issues w/ trx450r spindles on 250r, they say the camber and/or caster you can't get right. 400ex spindles are really close to 88/89 250r. You can use 89 hubs on 400ex, yfz450 brakes are dirt cheap, so are 400ex spindles. Follow the path of least cost for gains it has.

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Awsome,and i appreciate all your guys help.Think im gonna go with 400ex spindles and yfz brakes.By the why all this parts will all bolt together without misc parts or interference issues,a-arms,tie rods,brakes,rotors,etc ?

[gtilley45]

My Walsh YZ hybrid had 400EX spindles with adapters and TRX250R calipers on it when I got it. One of my calipers went bad and I was considering using the TRX450R spindles, hubs, rotors, and calipers....but decided to use the YFZ calipers on my 400EX spindles for a few reasons.

1) They bolt right up and work perfectly, no modification at all.
2) They are still pretty decent calipers since they are a dual piston.
3) To use the 450R spindles, you have to use the 450R hubs, rotors, and calipers. So that means I wouldn't have been able to use the very nice set of Hardkor hubs that my bike had. The spindles, hubs and rotors I found really cheap but every set of decent calipers I could find were VERY expensive.
4) If you use the 450R spindles, it is very hard to get the camber and caster set up right. Josborn on here put this set up on his Walsh CRF and he said that his top a arms were adjusted out so far that he had very few threads left and was afraid of it being too weak. He ended up having Walsh make him a 3/4" longer set of upper a arms. I can't remember for sure, but I think you have to use different tie rods with the 450R spindles too.

So basically since I already had the 400EX spindles....it made WAY more sense for me to use YFZ calipers. Instead of having to spend the money to buy an entire spindle, hub, rotor, caliper assembly....I spent $60 and bought a set of YFZ calipers and now have a TRX450R master cylinder, 400EX spindles, TRX250R hubs and rotors, and YFZ calipers. I can get pics of mine if you're worried about the fit and want to make sure.

Being in your position......that's probably the route I'd recommend. If I remember correctly, one of the reasons a lot of people started putting 400EX spindles on 250Rs was because the 400EX spindles were stronger. So if you're doing a lot of jumping, keep that in mind.

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Originally posted by gtilley45
My Walsh YZ hybrid had 400EX spindles with adapters and TRX250R calipers on it when I got it. One of my calipers went bad and I was considering using the TRX450R spindles, hubs, rotors, and calipers....but decided to use the YFZ calipers on my 400EX spindles for a few reasons.

1) They bolt right up and work perfectly, no modification at all.
2) They are still pretty decent calipers since they are a dual piston.
3) To use the 450R spindles, you have to use the 450R hubs, rotors, and calipers. So that means I wouldn't have been able to use the very nice set of Hardkor hubs that my bike had. The spindles, hubs and rotors I found really cheap but every set of decent calipers I could find were VERY expensive.
4) If you use the 450R spindles, it is very hard to get the camber and caster set up right. Josborn on here put this set up on his Walsh CRF and he said that his top a arms were adjusted out so far that he had very few threads left and was afraid of it being too weak. He ended up having Walsh make him a 3/4" longer set of upper a arms. I can't remember for sure, but I think you have to use different tie rods with the 450R spindles too.

So basically since I already had the 400EX spindles....it made WAY more sense for me to use YFZ calipers. Instead of having to spend the money to buy an entire spindle, hub, rotor, caliper assembly....I spent $60 and bought a set of YFZ calipers and now have a TRX450R master cylinder, 400EX spindles, TRX250R hubs and rotors, and YFZ calipers. I can get pics of mine if you're worried about the fit and want to make sure.

Being in your position......that's probably the route I'd recommend. If I remember correctly, one of the reasons a lot of people started putting 400EX spindles on 250Rs was because the 400EX spindles were stronger. So if you're doing a lot of jumping, keep that in mind. So i get,400ex spindles,should i just get 400ex hubs as well?and 250r rotors instead of yfz?and will trx 450 master cylinder go with the yfz calipers?

[gtilley45]

I'm pretty sure 400EX hubs won't work with 250R rotors.

And yes...the TRX450R master cylinder will work with YFZ calipers. I have that set up on my Walsh YZ hybrid now.

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Originally posted by gtilley45
I'm pretty sure 400EX hubs won't work with 250R rotors.

And yes...the TRX450R master cylinder will work with YFZ calipers. I have that set up on my Walsh YZ hybrid now. So i need 400ex spindles,and 250r hubs and rotors,they work together?

[gtilley45]

Yep. I can't remember exactly what all parts interchange....but I KNOW that TRX450R master cylinder, 400EX spindles, 250R hubs/rotors, and YFZ calipers will work together because that's the set up I'm running. LOL

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Perfect, well i appreciate all your guys help and input.

[250Renvy]

400ex hubs and 250R hubs and rotors are the same. It's just the year that is important.

88/89 250R hubs, rotors and spindles are all compatible with 400ex, so are 450R rotors.

The only difference is the bearing. You need an 89 tapered bearing or 400ex bearing for the 89 spindles and 400ex spindles.

[JOHNNY FIVE]

Originally posted by 250Renvy
400ex hubs and 250R hubs and rotors are the same. It's just the year that is important.

88/89 250R hubs, rotors and spindles are all compatible with 400ex, so are 450R rotors.

The only difference is the bearing. You need an 89 tapered bearing or 400ex bearing for the 89 spindles and 400ex spindles. So when i purchase aftermarket hubs the 89 style hubs and the 400ex aftermarket hubs would be identical?And what rotors do i need?All this being based off 400ex spindles.

[250Renvy]

Aftermarket hubs are based off the 89 spindle which is interchangeable with the 400ex hubs. If they come with bearings you are o.k., if they don't make sure you buy 89 bearings or 400ex bearings.
Rotors are all the same for 88/89, 400ex and 450R.

[Higgy87TRX425]

Originally posted by 250Renvy
400ex hubs and 250R hubs and rotors are the same. It's just the year that is important.

88/89 250R hubs, rotors and spindles are all compatible with 400ex, so are 450R rotors.

The only difference is the bearing. You need an 89 tapered bearing or 400ex bearing for the 89 spindles and 400ex spindles.

The 86-87 are different and won't work. I mistakenly bought the same size bearings for the newer 88-89 hubs which have the tapered shaft the bearings ride on. So now I need to buy 4 of the smaller size bearings to work with the smaller shaft size on the 400exs spindles, correct??? Then I'll have 2 complete sets of brand new bearings!! Do I have this correct??? Thanks Higgy??

[250Renvy]

Originally posted by Higgy87TRX425
The 86-87 are different and won't work. I mistakenly bought the same size bearings for the newer 88-89 hubs which have the tapered shaft the bearings ride on. So now I need to buy 4 of the smaller size bearings to work with the smaller shaft size on the 400exs spindles, correct??? Then I'll have 2 complete sets of brand new bearings!! Do I have this correct??? Thanks Higgy??


I'm not 100% sure. The 88 has different bearings than the 89. The 89 is like the 400ex.

86-87 may or may not work with the 88, but as far as I know they only work with 86-87 bearings cause the spindle and the hub are different.

You are writing that the shaft is smaller on the 400ex, but it's not that it has a smaller shaft, it's that it's tapered.

So to go back, if you bought 88 bearings for the 400ex, they will not work. If you bought 88 bearings for the 86/87 I'm not sure. If you bought 89 bearings they should work on the 400ex spindle.

[matt250r21]

88 TRX250R and 89 TRX250R / 400EX all use the same bearings.