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250r rider 88
09-25-2011, 09:58 AM
went to a range with a buddy yesterday and shot skeet for the first time in over 10 years and im hooked i want to do it every weekend haha, we just rented a gun from the range to try it out but now im in the market

i want to get a 20 gauge, i can handle a 12 just fine, but my girlfriend and other people may use this gun down the road

and i would prefer a semi automatic as that is what we shot yesterday and it was awesome

so im looking to either get a used or low price new shotgun, no more than 400-500 so what are the best options?

HondaRacing83
09-25-2011, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by 250r rider 88
went to a range with a buddy yesterday and shot skeet for the first time in over 10 years and im hooked i want to do it every weekend haha, we just rented a gun from the range to try it out but now im in the market

i want to get a 20 gauge, i can handle a 12 just fine, but my girlfriend and other people may use this gun down the road

and i would prefer a semi automatic as that is what we shot yesterday and it was awesome

so im looking to either get a used or low price new shotgun, no more than 400-500 so what are the best options? dunno about 20 guage, but ive got a camo charles daly 12guage. i absolutely love it, best shotgun ive ever shot. great gun for skeet! i shoot every other weekend. a box of 90 is only 6bucks where im at, we bought one of those little hand throwers and it throws em great and works great for now. my dad has a big skeet launcher over at his parents hes getting. my charles daly wasnt a whole lot either. my dad says it kicks way more than his remington 870 and over under. i dont see a difference. id deff go with a charles daly 20 guage though, youll love it and the price.

slightlybent47
09-25-2011, 12:08 PM
Dems skeets sure are some good eatin! Don’t shoots dem outa season or you’ll goes to jail!

I like my Remington 1100 very well but there a bit pricy. I have one in 20ga. And 12ga. But I got them years ago and they were cheaper back then.
A simi auto will absorb a lot of the recoil and is a lot better on the shoulder when you get into a lot of shooting.
I haven’t priced guns in a long time so I’m not sure what’s in your price range these days.
Just remember that price only maters when it comes to quality and workmanship, an expensive gun does not make a good shooter. I’ve seen guys start shooting with a cheap gun and do well with it, then they get hooked and spend a lot of money on a “better” gun only to find out they shot much better with the cheaper gun.lol
If you can swing to price on an 1100, you’ll be happy with it.

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If you like skeet, then try shooting “Trap”. It’s more fun and you get to shoot at 100 targets per round compared to just 25 rounds for skeet. And they come at you from deferent angles then skeet.

CJM
09-25-2011, 02:21 PM
If you must have autoloading a remington 1100 is all I would buy. I honestly prefer pump action and a remington wingmaster is my skeet gun of choice-there is no better gun imho.

ben300
09-25-2011, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by slightlybent47
Dems skeets sure are some good eatin! Don’t shoots dem outa season or you’ll goes to jail!

I like my Remington 1100 very well but there a bit pricy. I have one in 20ga. And 12ga. But I got them years ago and they were cheaper back then.
A simi auto will absorb a lot of the recoil and is a lot better on the shoulder when you get into a lot of shooting.
I haven’t priced guns in a long time so I’m not sure what’s in your price range these days.
Just remember that price only maters when it comes to quality and workmanship, an expensive gun does not make a good shooter. I’ve seen guys start shooting with a cheap gun and do well with it, then they get hooked and spend a lot of money on a “better” gun only to find out they shot much better with the cheaper gun.lol
If you can swing to price on an 1100, you’ll be happy with it.

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If you like skeet, then try shooting “Trap”. It’s more fun and you get to shoot at 100 targets per round compared to just 25 rounds for skeet. And they come at you from deferent angles then skeet.

your thinking of sporting clays, not trap...trap is where the house is directly in front of the shooters and launches birds directly away in 15 to 30 degree angles....trap is the easiest of the disciplines, and gets boring after awhile..

..i shoot allot of skeet...im a registered c class shooter with a .9634 average...

of the aforementioned guns..the rem 1100 is the gun you want to go with, if your looking for an accurate, reliable, good quality gun for the money...then thats the gun you want. this is the gun that i use, and you'll see most used in skeet leagues and in competition around the world.

i currently use a premier sporting 12 gauge, with a custom, adjustable stock comb and briley chokes...

the 1100 is a fantastic gun and can be picked up very cheap used from allot of different places. the 1100 has been around for along time so there are many different models out there that you can choose from when trying to find one..my 1100 retails for $1600, but you can get a brand new 1100 regular sporting 12 for about $900, and you can even if you want buy the new 1100 premier sporting synthetic with adjustable comb and length of pull with briley chokes for about $1000 giver or take....

the 1187 is a variation of the 1100, with the ability to chamber 3"and 2.75" rounds (3.5" if super mag)....these can be purchased at a good price used, however, some of the older 1187's, only have one gas port in the barrel and sometimes will not cycle light sport loads...this can be corrected by a) machining a second gas port in the barrel b) adding a second ejection ring to the gun c) buy a new barrel, which can cost allot depending on the barrel.


if you dont want to purchase a new gun and cant find a good use one at a local gun shop, gunbroaker, or guns of america, then and 870 is also another fantastic gun to use....these are good quality guns, can be picked up brand new for $300, can be bought anywhere...they will work good for skeet, trap, hunting, sporting clays, etc.


there are other great guns out there....the beretta 391 series semi auto guns (urika's, teknys models) are all great guns. Probably some of the finest craftsmanship for semi auto sporting guns out there....however, they are expensive, sometimes extremely expensive...even used..however, you may be able to find the cheaper version, the 3901's, and a much reduced price...they sometimes sell these even at walmarts...

the browing bps pump gun is a decent skeet gun, but is expensive, even in used guns..

you could also look for a used winchester sx2, which is the same internal components as the highly touted sx3, just different exterior look...you find used ones of these from about $500 and up...


i would stay away from guns like escort, charles daily, etc..sure these guns look good, and are ok, but they are made cheaper, with less quality components, materials, and standards than good guns. plus, allot of these semi auto's if not cleaned regularly and properly, will jam. they also will have a hard time ejecting and auto loading light loads, like skeet and trap loads.

i would mention the mossberg 935, which for the price, is an excellent auto loader, however, this gun sometimes has problems ejecting and loading light sporting loads.

my best advice would to try and find something like an 1100 or 1187 used if you dont want to buy new. what ever you choose, however, enjoy. welcome to a very fun and enjoyable sport, that you should be able to do for the rest of your life

HondaRacing83
09-25-2011, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by ben300
your thinking of sporting clays, not trap...trap is where the house is directly in front of the shooters and launches birds directly away in 15 to 30 degree angles....trap is the easiest of the disciplines, and gets boring after awhile..

..i shoot allot of skeet...im a registered c class shooter with a .9634 average...

of the aforementioned guns..the rem 1100 is the gun you want to go with, if your looking for an accurate, reliable, good quality gun for the money...then thats the gun you want. this is the gun that i use, and you'll see most used in skeet leagues and in competition around the world.

i currently use a premier sporting 12 gauge, with a custom, adjustable stock comb and briley chokes...

the 1100 is a fantastic gun and can be picked up very cheap used from allot of different places. the 1100 has been around for along time so there are many different models out there that you can choose from when trying to find one..my 1100 retails for $1600, but you can get a brand new 1100 regular sporting 12 for about $900, and you can even if you want buy the new 1100 premier sporting synthetic with adjustable comb and length of pull with briley chokes for about $1000 giver or take....

the 1187 is a variation of the 1100, with the ability to chamber 3"and 2.75" rounds (3.5" if super mag)....these can be purchased at a good price used, however, some of the older 1187's, only have one gas port in the barrel and sometimes will not cycle light sport loads...this can be corrected by a) machining a second gas port in the barrel b) adding a second ejection ring to the gun c) buy a new barrel, which can cost allot depending on the barrel.


if you dont want to purchase a new gun and cant find a good use one at a local gun shop, gunbroaker, or guns of america, then and 870 is also another fantastic gun to use....these are good quality guns, can be picked up brand new for $300, can be bought anywhere...they will work good for skeet, trap, hunting, sporting clays, etc.


there are other great guns out there....the beretta 391 series semi auto guns (urika's, teknys models) are all great guns. Probably some of the finest craftsmanship for semi auto sporting guns out there....however, they are expensive, sometimes extremely expensive...even used..however, you may be able to find the cheaper version, the 3901's, and a much reduced price...they sometimes sell these even at walmarts...

the browing bps pump gun is a decent skeet gun, but is expensive, even in used guns..

you could also look for a used winchester sx2, which is the same internal components as the highly touted sx3, just different exterior look...you find used ones of these from about $500 and up...


i would stay away from guns like escort, charles daily, etc..sure these guns look good, and are ok, but they are made cheaper, with less quality components, materials, and standards than good guns. plus, allot of these semi auto's if not cleaned regularly and properly, will jam. they also will have a hard time ejecting and auto loading light loads, like skeet and trap loads.

i would mention the mossberg 935, which for the price, is an excellent auto loader, however, this gun sometimes has problems ejecting and loading light sporting loads.

my best advice would to try and find something like an 1100 or 1187 used if you dont want to buy new. what ever you choose, however, enjoy. welcome to a very fun and enjoyable sport, that you should be able to do for the rest of your life my dad has an 870 out of the many shotguns he has, and i beg to differ. i love my charles daly, outperforms the remington 870.

ben300
09-25-2011, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by HondaRacing83
my dad has an 870 out of the many shotguns he has, and i beg to differ. i love my charles daly, outperforms the remington 870.


listen kid...you can beg to differ and argue with me all ya want...but i own and shoot allot of shot guns...i have 2 870's, 4 1100's, 3 1187's, a versamax, a 391 urika sportin clays, a mossberg 835, a citori xs skeet.....ive shot allot of shot guns, and seen a lot, and the charles daly is a low low grade gun....the over and unders are ok, but still nothing to write home to mom about...

im sure your happy with the gun...thats cool..be happy wiith you have...but if i wanted to buy something for the money, that was hassle free, accurate, and of good quality, id buy and 1100 or and 870, ten times out of ten before id buy the charles daly

slightlybent47
09-25-2011, 10:34 PM
Ben300…..yeah your rite about the deference between trap and sporting clays, sorry I miss spoke about the two. It’s nice that the 1100 is still considered a good gun. My 1100 in the 20ga. was my dads gun and has an adjustable choke and worked great as it has for many years. The one I have in the 12ga. has a shorter barrel and an extended mag. tube.
It’s more of a crossover between a sporting gun and a home defense gun.
I don’t shoot much anymore but it sounds like Ben300 is an active shooter so I’d listen to what he has to say on the subject. When you get to shooting the one thing I have learned is to follow through and don’t stop swinging the gun when you fire. It’s the most common mistake people make.

Good luck and have fun!

Longdong
09-25-2011, 11:34 PM
I like my benelli shoots good for me!!!! Super x2 is about the same fell as a benelli m4. 1100 and 870's are both good guns too!

fastredrider44
09-26-2011, 07:41 AM
If I was going to get a cheap gun, it's be an 870 or a Mossberg 88 (both pump). I really like the 1187 as a semi though.

thepowester
09-26-2011, 09:59 AM
i dont have much experience with semi's cause im more fond of the pumps. i have an old sears and robuck 12ga with adjustable choke thats been passed down in my family for a while (well since my grandfather died years ago). but its mine now i love that gun, i can out shoot my friend with his brand new 870 any day, but i do love that 870 very nice up until it jams, something the ol sears and robuck has never done to me, ever!

ben300
09-26-2011, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by thepowester
i dont have much experience with semi's cause im more fond of the pumps. i have an old sears and robuck 12ga with adjustable choke thats been passed down in my family for a while (well since my grandfather died years ago). but its mine now i love that gun, i can out shoot my friend with his brand new 870 any day, but i do love that 870 very nice up until it jams, something the ol sears and robuck has never done to me, ever!

so how exactly does the 870 jam? :huh

870's shouldnt jam at all unless something breaks internally on the gun or you have a bent or damaged hull....

thepowester
09-26-2011, 11:03 AM
i dont know what it is exactly but they say its pretty common, they call it "rem-jam"/ ive heard alot of 870s do it, if i remember correctly someone once told me it has something to do with brass on the shell. you just gotta rack the pump back really hard to get it to eject then its all back to normal

backwoodsracer
09-26-2011, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by HondaRacing83
my dad has an 870 out of the many shotguns he has, and i beg to differ. i love my charles daly, outperforms the remington 870.

Explain to me how one gun is out performing the other????? its the shooter being better with one gun over the other.....

thepowester
09-26-2011, 11:55 AM
ive shot both guns and my gun has always preformed better, but like with almost everything else its an opinion.

backwoodsracer
09-26-2011, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by ben300
so how exactly does the 870 jam? :huh

870's shouldnt jam at all unless something breaks internally on the gun or you have a bent or damaged hull....

I have an 20ga. 870 and it jams everytime i take it duck hunting, they dont like to run dirty.. Thats why i just use my Benelli M1 Super 90 for everything. you cannot beat it! And as for whoever was say the charles daly was a great gun, well it is a very cheap gun and you get what you pay for..

ben300
09-26-2011, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by backwoodsracer
I have an 20ga. 870 and it jams everytime i take it duck hunting, they dont like to run dirty.. Thats why i just use my Benelli M1 Super 90 for everything. you cannot beat it! And as for whoever was say the charles daly was a great gun, well it is a very cheap gun and you get what you pay for..

im not agreeing or disagree with you, however, my 870's can be basically submerged in water, shoot a thousand rounds, and caked in mud (they usually are) and will still fire and extract/eject shells no problem......running dirty shouldnt affect an 870, browning bps, benelli nova like it would an auto..they're pumps, not gas or innertia driven guns.

more than likely your problems are happening because a) your shooting ether cheap ammunition that the hull or the brass ring are damaged or reloads that have damaged hulls or the brass has not been resized correctly, or b) there is a damaged or failed internal component in the gun itself which can happen from years of use, or, depending on what year it is, if you have bought a newer 870 express (these made alot cheaper than the older 870's and wing masters)

Longdong
09-26-2011, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by backwoodsracer
I have an 20ga. 870 and it jams everytime i take it duck hunting, they dont like to run dirty.. Thats why i just use my Benelli M1 Super 90 for everything. you cannot beat it! And as for whoever was say the charles daly was a great gun, well it is a very cheap gun and you get what you pay for..

X2 on benelli

ben300
09-26-2011, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Longdong
X2 on benelli


problem here lies in, just like every other thread started with "whats the best "______" in "$___."" is that of course everyone is gonna tell you to buy the most popular product out there, and not pay attention to the fact as your are new at this, dont want something crazy, and dont want to have to take out a second mortage on the house to afford one..


benellis are great guns, however, they're $1500-$2400 price tag doesnt make them better than anyother autoloader out there...

he's not going to be able to find a legacy, supersport, or a monetfeltro anywhere near his price range

rundrave
09-26-2011, 02:31 PM
I could buy just about any gun I want, but I only buy the ones that fit and shoulder well for me.

Go out to a gun store, start shouldering guns and buy the one that is comfortable for YOU. Dont worry if it doesnt cost as much as the others, dont worry about the brand....just go with what fits you.

I dont buy the $2k guns because they dont fit me. Just because you spend alot of $$$ on a gun doesnt make you a better shooter.

slightlybent47
09-26-2011, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by rundrave
I could buy just about any gun I want, but I only buy the ones that fit and shoulder well for me.

Go out to a gun store, start shouldering guns and buy the one that is comfortable for YOU. Dont worry if it doesnt cost as much as the others, dont worry about the brand....just go with what fits you.

I dont buy the $2k guns because they dont fit me. Just because you spend alot of $$$ on a gun doesnt make you a better shooter.
Like with anything, every now and then a gun just fits and shoots well for some people, no mater the cost.
The price of a gun does not make a good shooter. I’ll say it again, I’ve seen guy’s start shooting skeet and do very well with a cheap gun, then after they get hooked and they go out and spend a lot of money on a “better” gun only to end up not shooting as well.
It’s so funny to watch someone spend a ton of money and get frustrated when they don’t shoot as well as they did with the cheaper gun.
It’s the same with racing, just because you get a better bike doesn’t mean you’ll be any faster.
Some guns just shoot good for some people and not for others.
I have a Ruger security six 357 mag. that fits me perfectly, and I can out shoot many people that are way better then I am with it. I’ve shot other security six’s and cant hit chit with them.
Ammo has a lot to do with it as well. Some guns just seem to shoot a certon loads better then others.
If the gun fits you, you’ll do much better with it.
I reload all my pistol and rifle ammo and I can adjust the loads to shoot better in most guns. One gun that shoots a certon load well, may not shoot another well at all.
When you go to the range ask your friends to let you shoot there gun a few times and see how you like it.
Try deferent loads to see witch one works better for you. Just because a gun is recommended doesn’t mean you’ll do well with it.

slightlybent47
09-26-2011, 04:22 PM
I talked to a world class shooter at an event one day and he explained how the pellets react after they leave the barrel and it was quite interesting.

I’ll try to explain it, if I can.

When the pellets leave the barrel, aerodynamics take over and this what happens.
The leading pellets act as wind breaks’ for the trailing pellets. As the leading pellets slow down they peel off to the outside and the trailing pellets move up to take there place. Then they slow down and peel off. This simply repeats itself as the shot travels down rang. Kinda of interesting, I thought!

backwoodsracer
09-26-2011, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by ben300
problem here lies in, just like every other thread started with "whats the best "______" in "$___."" is that of course everyone is gonna tell you to buy the most popular product out there, and not pay attention to the fact as your are new at this, dont want something crazy, and dont want to have to take out a second mortage on the house to afford one..


benellis are great guns, however, they're $1500-$2400 price tag doesnt make them better than anyother autoloader out there...

he's not going to be able to find a legacy, supersport, or a monetfeltro anywhere near his price range

Now that i remember, the 20ga steel i have is about 11yrs old, but you can pick up a nice used M1 for about $600 or a new m2 for $900, but Definatley pick a gun that fits you bo, but remember you get what you pay for.