My sons Mini Project

[illville]

This is my sons Baja Storm(Typhoon Clone) we picked it up for $300, it was in great shape, it just needed a top end rebuild. This will be his second quad as i started him a small 70cc so he could get the feel for it and he tosses it around like a little toy now so its time to move up and my daughter will be taking it over. This quad will be for fun and trail riding only as far as i can see right know. Please feel free to add your suggestions and ideas from your experiences with your mini. Again im not building it for competition, just trying to get the family on quads without breaking the bank. Thanks to Ride1Rob for the info you gave me.

:D

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[illville]

Album link

http://s1097.photobucket.com/albums/g354/Billy_Brown/Elijahs%204wheeler%20project/

[illville]

Started to strip it down to get the old motor pulled

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[illville]

My son wanted to change the color up so we painted it and added some decals.

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[illville]

Got the new motor and installed it, it was a bit of a tight fit and i had to bend out the foot brake because the motor is a little wider on that side than the original.

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Specifications:

Single cylinder, 4-stroke, 2 valves, OHC racing head, air cooled, 125cc
Bore x Stroke: 54mm x 54mm, this is a 'square' engine for best balance between power and torque

Dimension: 17"X11"X9"
Valve Sizes: 27mm intake, 23mm exhaust
Displacement: 123.7cc
Compression Ratio: 9.47:1
Carburettor: 22mm racing carburetor
Ignition: CDI, 12 volt, permanent magnetic stator
Maximum Power: 8.5 Kw DIN @ 9,500 rpm
Rated Power: 6.5 Kw @ 7,500 rpm
Torque: at least 8.8 Nm @ 5,500 rpm
Gears: 4-speed, semi auto clutch, 4 up shift pattern.
Gear Ratios: 1st 2.833:1, 2nd 1.706:1, 3rd 1.238:1, 4th 0.958:1
Final Drive: 14 tooth #420 front sprocket included (we have other sprocket on sale too!!)
Lubrication: 900ml, 10W/40 4-stroke motorcycle oil, pressure and splash
Fuel: Unleaded

[illville]

Scored a pristine set of 06 300ex shocks on ebay for $50 and picked up some shock covers for a nice touch.

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[illville]

Just picked up a Fastace shock for the rear should be putting this in today.

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[illville]

Scored some new 18-9-8 Sand Gecko tires on ITP rims for $60 on craigslist, the rims are for a Raptor 80 but for the price i cant complain, the rims will go back on Ebay/craigslist.

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[zrydr]

That paint job is SICK man, I love it. How are the 300ex shocks on it?

[leager-n-ky]

Looks great, What is the wheel bolt pattern on those wheels ? How much shipped to 41040 ?

[illville]

Originally posted by zrydr
That paint job is SICK man, I love it. How are the 300ex shocks on it?

Thanks, :D
Wont know how the shocks perform until we get it out on the trails but just as it sits i like em alot better and they give the quad more ground clearance off the bat. The bottom mount on the a-arm has to be modified slightly because the bottom shock mount is just a bit wider than stock, other than that its straight forward

[illville]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
Looks great, What is the wheel bolt pattern on those wheels ? How much shipped to 41040 ?

Thanks,

Ill PM u the Craigslist ad

[illville]

Scored another craiglist find. Had my eyes set on some different tires but since this is a budget build and and not a race bike i dont have to be to critical.

I was going to go with some 18x9-8's just like the paddles but I found some Dunlop KT386 AT18x10-8's for $40 and i just couldnt pass em up, there in great shape.

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[illville]

Ah craigslist, i must be an addict :D

Picked up a fox chest protector for my son for $10, its ruff but no cracks. I had a few extra minutes on my hands so i had to spruce em up a bit ;)

my son hasnt seen them yet but i think he'll like em

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[daddyrat]

Originally posted by illville
Got the new motor and installed it, it was a bit of a tight fit and i had to bend out the foot brake because the motor is a little wider on that side than the original.

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g354/Billy_Brown/Elijahs%204wheeler%20project/2011-07-25210649.jpg

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Illville,

The quad looks great, what size motor did you get?

[illville]

Originally posted by daddyrat
Illville,

The quad looks great, what size motor did you get?

Thank you,
I went with the 125cc Lifan

[illville]

Wanting to upgrade to a VM26 Mikuni and have found many ranging in price from $40-$115 on ebay. I dont know if the cheap ones are clones or not. How do you tell the difference?

Example this one is $42 and states it is a VM26

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VM26-606 one is $49 and is bolt on

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MIKUNI 26MM VM26-606 ROUND SLIDE CARBURETOR $85

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Can anyone help me please, and is this the best choice for this specific motor setup?

[leager-n-ky]

Thats the best carb, but my thoughts are to much carb for a 125. just my $.02

If you had a 140 or larger, i would say yes.

[illville]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
Thats the best carb, but my thoughts are to much carb for a 125. just my $.02

If you had a 140 or larger, i would say yes.

Thanks for the input.
Would a VM24 be a better choice or should i just stick with the 22mm Mikuni i have?

Want the biggest carb i can run without have any negative effects, im new to this so i dont quite know the formula.

I posted the engine specs on the first page if it helps

thanks again for any input,

Billy

[illville]

All helpful information welcome, trying to order this by the end of the week so anything you can give me sure is appreciated

[leager-n-ky]

I dont have a formula, somebody else could chime in here, i beleive the 22 would work just fine, if you go to the 24 you would gain a little more on top end, but would lose some bottom end. Just depends on what you are doing. Woods, or tight mx tracks 22, sand dunes, or wide open fire roads 24.

Did you get my pm about the wheels ??

[illville]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
I dont have a formula, somebody else could chime in here, i beleive the 22 would work just fine, if you go to the 24 you would gain a little more on top end, but would lose some bottom end. Just depends on what you are doing. Woods, or tight mx tracks 22, sand dunes, or wide open fire roads 24.

Did you get my pm about the wheels ??

Ok thanks for the info.

ya PM sent thanks :cool:

[daddyrat]

illiville,

If you do order the 24mm Mikuni, I would be interested in your old 22mm Mikuni for my smaller 90 with a 114cc top end. Let me know...

thanks, Tom

[illville]

Originally posted by daddyrat
illiville,

If you do order the 24mm Mikuni, I would be interested in your old 22mm Mikuni for my smaller 90 with a 114cc top end. Let me know...

thanks, Tom
I will let you know if I go that route,
Thanks

[Ride1Rob]

The head on that Lifan 125 is very restricted and you won't get much airflow. Pretty much a waste of money to upgrade to a bigger carb with that head. They're not even worth porting the ports are so small in them :ermm: The head on the Lifan 150 is pretty much a race head with a more aggressive cam. If you at least drop on the 150 head with a VM24 505 or VM26 606 you'll feel a nice difference in performance.

[illville]

Originally posted by Ride1Rob
The head on that Lifan 125 is very restricted and you won't get much airflow. Pretty much a waste of money to upgrade to a bigger carb with that head. They're not even worth porting the ports are so small in them :ermm: The head on the Lifan 150 is pretty much a race head with a more aggressive cam. If you at least drop on the 150 head with a VM24 505 or VM26 606 you'll feel a nice difference in performance.

Perfect, thats just what i needed to hear, im not trying to spend money i don't need to right know so ill wait on the carb until i decide to swap heads, thanks Rob :cool:

[illville]

Been surfing around on ebay and was wondering if anyone can lead me in right direction for a good set of nerf bars with heel guards that will work on this atv with minor modification and decent price, these stock ones are crap.

[leager-n-ky]

check with ride1rob, i beleive he modified a set of drr's nerf's. we had the AC's on ours but they are pricey..

[illville]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
check with ride1rob, i beleive he modified a set of drr's nerf's. we had the AC's on ours but they are pricey..

Will do thanks, Maybe he'll chime in and give us the 411 when he gets a sec :D thanks for your input guys, my son is stoked to get his bike back and go for a ride.

his helmet and exhaust should be here shortly :cool:

[Ride1Rob]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
check with ride1rob, i beleive he modified a set of drr's nerf's. we had the AC's on ours but they are pricey.. What Denny said... the old Typhoon brackets will have to be cut and the new ones will have to be welded on. Drr AC nerfs. Think they're around $130.00.

[illville]

Originally posted by Ride1Rob
What Denny said... the old Typhoon brackets will have to be cut and the new ones will have to be welded on. Drr AC nerfs. Think they're around $130.00.

Ok, thanks, ive done some searching but cant seem to find em, can you shoot me a link if you come across one?

Also, my sons helmet came in today :cool:

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[leager-n-ky]

check in the drr section of this forum, and look for Neverreadyracing, his name is Kevin. I am sure he can hook you up.

[leager-n-ky]

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=472949&highlight=nerf

[illville]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
check in the drr section of this forum, and look for Neverreadyracing, his name is Kevin. I am sure he can hook you up.

Awsome, thank you much.

[Ride1Rob]

Need to see if he has the weld on brackets with those or if he used them already. Your Typhoon brackets won't work.

[bigdaddy77]

Call AC Racing and talk to them. They have nerfs and bumpers for the Xtreme . They just don't have them on line. I think I paid $190 for our nerfbars and I got the bumper off eBay.

[illville]

Originally posted by bigdaddy77
Call AC Racing and talk to them. They have nerfs and bumpers for the Xtreme . They just don't have them on line. I think I paid $190 for our nerfbars and I got the bumper off eBay.

Awsome, ill check it out :cool:

[illville]

Got the new wheels in today, super pumped! should be getting the tires mounted tomorrow :D Thanks again for the link Rob

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[zrydr]

What are you doing with the old rims? Are they in good condition?
Price with shipping to 74601?

[Ride1Rob]

Originally posted by illville
Got the new wheels in today, super pumped! should be getting the tires mounted tomorrow :D Thanks again for the link Rob

And those are lighter than the stockers ;)

[dalton306]

nice pretty sweet quad
:)

[illville]

got the exhaust today

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[illville]

Originally posted by dalton306
nice pretty sweet quad
:) [/QUOTE

Thanks

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ride1Rob
And those are lighter than the stockers ;)

Ya they are light as a feather. Took em down to get them mounted at my buddies shop Jensen's Performance http://www.facebook.com/jensensps

He's finishing things up for me so i know everything will be correct when i get it back this saturday.

On the same note i also noticed how much further out the rear wheels come out as ive added 3 inches of wheel width and 3.5 of tire width.

Rob,
do you remember how much longer the Chassis Fab A Arm setup is than stock and what it cost. Im gonna have to get a set or have my buddy make me some new ones, if you can give me some dimension it would be greatly appreciated. :cool:

[illville]

Originally posted by zrydr
What are you doing with the old rims? Are they in good condition?
Price with shipping to 74601?

The Rims and tires are in excellent condition, Ill be posting all the stock parts i'll be selling, after the build is complete and i know for sure that i wont be useing them, Thanks.

[illville]

got some pics at the shop today, i definately need the long arm kit for the front but im still lovin the new wheels

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[illville]

Does anybody know if 300EX A-arms will work on these quads, is the width from heim to heim the same or close? Also how much longer they would be than mine stock. I found some long A-arms on ebay and they look very similar to the way ours is set up.

[Ride1Rob]

The shocks will work.... The arms won't due to completely different mounts. Typhoon has heim mounts and 300ex is tubed. Sucks the Lew at ChassisInc is going through whatever he is. He makes some damn good arms! I have a solution for you guys that are looking for arms. FullFlight makes a nice Chromoly Arm. I ran his set on my YFZ. All mounts are heim like the Typhoon. If you contact him and send him your stock arms I'm sure he can get it done.

http://www.fullflightracing.com/cart/

[illville]

Originally posted by Ride1Rob
The shocks will work.... The arms won't due to completely different mounts. Typhoon has heim mounts and 300ex is tubed. Sucks the Lew at ChassisInc is going through whatever he is. He makes some damn good arms! I have a solution for you guys that are looking for arms. FullFlight makes a nice Chromoly Arm. I ran his set on my YFZ. All mounts are heim like the Typhoon. If you contact him and send him your stock arms I'm sure he can get it done.

http://www.fullflightracing.com/cart/

Ya those were the ones i was looking at, thanks for the info :cool:

My son got to ride his quad for the first time today, he picked up shifting real quick, within a half an hour he was zippin around like a pro!

I had to put the stock front shocks back on, I half to find another lower bushing for the 300ex shocks before i can put them back on.

The exhaust sounds sweet! Crisp and clean.

The chain needs to be tightened as well as other odds and ends

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[Ride1Rob]

Nice looking bike! Great job ;) You may run into problems with that motor :ermm: . That's the old old style Lifan engine from a few years ago. That's why it wasn't very expensive. The newer style Lifan engines have stronger trannies and better cases.

[illville]

Originally posted by Ride1Rob
Nice looking bike! Great job ;) You may run into problems with that motor :ermm: . That's the old old style Lifan engine from a few years ago. That's why it wasn't very expensive. The newer style Lifan engines have stronger trannies and better cases.

Thanks. Hopefully it will last him a couple years cause I have a feeling at the rate he's Growing hes gonna need something bigger, hes only in 5th grade and he's almost 5 ft tall and 115 lbs

[illville]

We got it dirty on sunday, it handled great, the Fastace rear shock worked great. I definately need to get those 300ex shocks back on the front for added clearance but other than that it was a blast and my son loved it :cool:

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[TRKR]

Congratulations!!! That is a very clean quad. Good to see other people loving these bikes too.

Mines still beeing worked on and not nearly as clean...But fun.
Just today I has able to track down the swingarm bushings.

Let us know how the front 300EX shocks work out. I'm badly in need of front shocks and if they work, well, my budget can allow those.

Great bike, ENJOY.

TORKER.

[illville]

Originally posted by TRKR
Congratulations!!! That is a very clean quad. Good to see other people loving these bikes too.

Mines still beeing worked on and not nearly as clean...But fun.
Just today I has able to track down the swingarm bushings.

Let us know how the front 300EX shocks work out. I'm badly in need of front shocks and if they work, well, my budget can allow those.

Great bike, ENJOY.

TORKER.
Thanks we're having a lot of fun with it, ill definitely be posting all the updates and changes we make. As of right know I swapped. Out the Mikuni carb that came with the the quad for the carb that came with the Lifan motor because it was to finicky and I didn't know how to tune it.

Supposedly the carb that came with the Lifan motor is a 22mm, the Mikuni I removed seems definitely larger, I don't know how to measure it.

[TRKR]

I have a 26mm e-bay carb on mine, (it says Mikuni, but i don't believe it!!!) and its great (so far) and I've tuned it almost perfectly to my stock 125cc motor. No problems at all.

To measure your carb just take a caliper and measure the center hole of the engine side (smaller than the filter side opening). That will give you an estimate, since what you really need is the "venturi" measrement that is in between the filter side and the engine side. Right under "slide". Does that make any sense? Anybody?

Hope this helps.

I'm trying to get a "inexpensive" sprocket and chain kit and I'm having a hard time finding the kit. Even looking for the parts on their own I can't seem to find the right gearing. 420 or 428, can't find it. Go figure. Hopefully I'll find it by the end of the night.

TORKER.

[illville]

Originally posted by TRKR
I have a 26mm e-bay carb on mine, (it says Mikuni, but i don't believe it!!!) and its great (so far) and I've tuned it almost perfectly to my stock 125cc motor. No problems at all.

To measure your carb just take a caliper and measure the center hole of the engine side (smaller than the filter side opening). That will give you an estimate, since what you really need is the "venturi" measrement that is in between the filter side and the engine side. Right under "slide". Does that make any sense? Anybody?

Hope this helps.

I'm trying to get a "inexpensive" sprocket and chain kit and I'm having a hard time finding the kit. Even looking for the parts on their own I can't seem to find the right gearing. 420 or 428, can't find it. Go figure. Hopefully I'll find it by the end of the night.

TORKER.

Here are some pics of the Mikuni(clone most likely) and the carb that came with the Lifan motor(right). I cant get the mikuni to idle without the choke on, ive tried adjusting the idle screw on the opposite side but just cant get it right and if the choke lever is not left up just a little bit the motor dies. Can anyone tell the size from the measurements i have posted?

Which sprocket are you changing, front or rear? My quad had a 428 when i got it but the Lifan motor had a 420 sprocket so i had to hunt down a 428 for the Lifan because the stock front sprocket wouldnt fit, the shaft is larger on the lifan motor.

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[illville]

Took it out again last weekend and put it to the test and it did great, my daughters little 70 also really gets it believe it or not.

Third ride, third oil change, and this time it really needed it, the dirt out there was as fine as flour and even with the filter oiled it couldnt stop the dust from getting through

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[Ride1Rob]

That's a knockoff Mikuni carb. For the correct measurement you measure the intake side opening. The carb on the left definitely flows more air than the one on the right.

[TRKR]

That's how a quad should look after a day of fun...
About my sprockets, most of the time I change everything together. This time that is prving to be a challenge!

TORKER.

[zrydr]

http://www.pmpsprockets.com/inc/sdetail/1574

Don't know if this helps or not.

[bigdaddy77]

We also get our sprockets from pmp . Better off calling them than ordering on line. You can get either 420 or 428's. We got ours with the smaller mounting holes and got rid of the rubber dampers. Then went to the hardware store and got locking nuts. Not sure if I changed the bolt too or not.

[illville]

Took my son out to practice shifting, we had some fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gPN5TSlPZQ

[daddyrat]

Originally posted by illville
Took my son out to practice shifting, we had some fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gPN5TSlPZQ

It looks like you guys were out in the desert somewhere, where are you guys at? Your son looks like he is doing good with the shift points. The quad did great, loved your son's thumbs up. Nice job Dad!!!

[illville]

Originally posted by daddyrat
It looks like you guys were out in the desert somewhere, where are you guys at? Your son looks like he is doing good with the shift points. The quad did great, loved your son's thumbs up. Nice job Dad!!!

Thanks, he's picking it up really quick, The thumbs up is my favorite part :D
we are out in the middle of a wheat field thats already been harvested, its a few miles from my house, the whole city used to be a desert and if you get far enough out u can still see some but the city has grown so fast since i was little and most of my old riding spots are big housing developments now :(

[turbo j]

I have an AC Bumper for the Xtreme that I would sell you for 50 bucks plus shipping. I am selling my sons xtreme and I could put the stock bumper back on.

Send me a PM if interested. Its in great shape could just use some touch up on the black.

[zrydr]

Did you ever get the 300ex shocks to work? How does it handle with them?

[illville]

Originally posted by zrydr
Did you ever get the 300ex shocks to work? How does it handle with them?

Still havent got the bushing yet, ive been really busy and just havenst got around to it

[250rrr]

a set of mint nerfs...i think they are ac- they are made for the typoon
fit ont he stock mounts ....let me know if you're interested ...i paid like 200 for them

[illville]

Originally posted by 250rrr
a set of mint nerfs...i think they are ac- they are made for the typoon
fit ont he stock mounts ....let me know if you're interested ...i paid like 200 for them

thanks for the offer, not really in the market right know

[illville]

Finally got the Honda 300EX front shocks on, way better. Havent taken it out of the yard yet but the handling difference is night and day, the front doesnt nose dive everytime i take a hard turn anymore. My son likes it as well, cant wait to get it on the trails. I also added headlight just have to wire them up. Added a father son pic and a pic of my sons quad and my buddies daughters new raptor 125, that thing goes.

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[leager-n-ky]

Lookin good, What is that parked in the garage ?

[TRKR]

Please, give us a ride report when you get a chance. Those shocks look good in there and if they work, it might just be what I need. The Raptor is huge compared to the Typhoon/Baja.

TORKER.

[TRKR]

Let us know how the Thypoon and Raptor compare.

TORKER.

[illville]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
Lookin good, What is that parked in the garage ?

Thanks, the car in the garage is my new project I picked up recently After is sold my last car. Its a 1962 Chevy Impala

[illville]

Originally posted by TRKR
Let us know how the Thypoon and Raptor compare.

TORKER.

Ya, the raptor sits up a bit compared to my sons quad which give taller people more leg room, my son sat on it as well and it fit him perfectly.

My quad is a little wider in the front by about 2 inches and in the back by about 3 inches and the wheel base is about the same.

we did a street ride test
they both handle well but i must say the raptor rides like a cadillac and handles like a dream! Smooth power through every gear and i know when you open it up with intake and exhaust it will only get better.

As far as power comparison there isnt much because the raptor blows my little lifan 125 out of the water after first gear. But just seeing the size comparison in the heads and cabs told me that(Lifan 20mm to raptor 29mm carb). If i could do it again i would have ordered the 150cc.

But all in all for the money i think i still come out on top because with a few bucks i can get more power and if i need it suspension as well and still not be in it for the price tag he paid for the raptor.

2011 Raptor price tag after tax and licsensing: about $3000

Total cost for my sons completed quad AND gear: about $1200

[illville]

TYPHOON STOCK SPECS:

•TY125 = 124cc 52.4 x 57.5

•Transmission:
•Heavy Duty Dual Auto-Clutch 4 Speed
•Final Drive: 2WD Rear wheel live axle driven by 428 HD chain. 14-43 X 428 Chain

•Front suspension: 8.5” travel
•Independent Dual A-Arm
•Rear Suspension: 8.0” travel
•Mono Shock Swingarm- Uses Pit Pro Geometry

•Brakes: Dual Piston Hydraulic Discs, Front
•Single Hydraulic Disc, Rear

•Fuel Capacity: 3 Liters (.8 us Gal.)

•Overall Length: 63.3”
•Wheelbase: 41.5”
•Seat Height: 26.2”
•Maximum Height 36.5” @ Handlebar.

•Maximum Width: 41.25

•Tire/Wheel
•Front: 19-6.00 x 10 Aluminum
•Rear: 18-6.50 x 8 Aluminum

•Wet Weight: 261 lbs

•Starting System: Electric start and Kick

•Colors: Orange, Blue, Red

•Nerf Bars and HD Front Bumper Standard


RAPTOR 125 SPECS

ENGINE

Type
124cc air-cooled 4-stroke: SOHC; single

Bore x Stroke
54.0 x 54.0mm

Compression Ratio
10.0:1

Fuel Delivery
Mikuni® 29mm BSR

Ignition
DC-CDI

Starting System
Electric

Transmission
5-speed; wet multiplate clutch

Drive Train
2WD; sealed O-ring chain, eccentric adjustment

CHASSIS

Suspension / Front
Independent double wishbone; 5-way preload-adjustable shocks, 7.5-in travel

Suspension / Rear
Swingarm: 7.9-in travel

Brakes / Front
Dual hydraulic disc

Brakes / Rear
Hydraulic disc

Tires / Front
Maxxis® AT19 x 6-10

Tires / Rear
Maxxis® AT18 x 9-8

DIMENSIONS

L x W x H
63.4 x 40.0 x 39.8 in

Seat Height
28.1 in

Wheelbase
43.7 in

Ground Clearance
3.3 in

Fuel Capacity
2.4 gal

Wet Weight
299 lb

OTHER

Lighting
Single 35/36.5W headlight & 21W/5W brakelight

Warranty
6 Month (Limited Factory Warranty)**

[illville]

My sons Quads current specs:

ENGINE

Single cylinder, 4-stroke, 2 valves, OHC racing head, air cooled, 125cc
Bore x Stroke: 54mm x 54mm
20mm Carb
Valve Sizes: 27mm intake, 23mm exhaust
Displacement: 123.7cc
Compression Ratio: 9.47:1
Ignition: CDI, 12 volt, permanent magnetic stator
Maximum Power: 8.5 Kw DIN @ 9,500 rpm
Rated Power: 6.5 Kw @ 7,500 rpm
Torque: at least 8.8 Nm @ 5,500 rpm
Gears: 4-speed, manual clutch, 4 up!!
Gear Ratios: 1st 2.833:1, 2nd 1.706:1, 3rd 1.238:1, 4th 0.958:1
Final Drive: 14 tooth #428 front sprocket
Lubrication: 1.1 liters, 4-stroke MOBILE 1 motorcycle oil
Air Filtration: UNI 2 stage Foam
Exhaust: Two Brothers M6 Aluminum/W Magnesium outlet, Spark Arrested
Fuel: Unleaded with added inline fuel filter

ATV:

Front suspension: 300 EX shocks
•Independent Dual A-Arm
•Rear Suspension: FASTACE BS-AR22 70MM stroke
•Mono Shock Swingarm- Uses Pit Pro Geometry

•Brakes: Dual Piston Hydraulic Discs, Front
•Single Hydraulic Disc, Rear

•Fuel Capacity: 3 Liters (.8 us Gal.)

•Overall Length: 63.3”
•Wheelbase: 42”
•Seat Height: 26.2”
•Maximum Height 36.5” @ Handlebar.
•Maximum Width: 43"

•Tire/Wheel
•Front: 19-6.00 x 10 Carlisle - Rear: 18-10 x 8 Dunlop KT386
•Front Rim: 10x5 G-Force - Rear Rim 8x8 G-Force

•Wet Weight: 261 lbs

•Starting System: Kick

•Color: Black and Green

•Nerf Bars and HD Front Bumper Standard

Dual Headlights

[zrydr]

What did you do tho make the shocks fit? The bottom mounts are wider correct? Did you just cut the mounts back a bit to make room?

[illville]

Originally posted by zrydr
What did you do tho make the shocks fit? The bottom mounts are wider correct? Did you just cut the mounts back a bit to make room?

Yes they are wider on the bottom so i used a grinder to remove some material from the lower mount on each side so it would snuggly fit with the washers on each side.

[daddyrat]

Hey illville,

After looking at your picture of the front of the Typhoon next to the Raptor 250 I thought, Why not Raptor shocks. I checked Ebay and there were several sets for around $80.

My Xtreme front shocks measure around 12", I measured the 250 front shocks at a dealer today and they were roughly 13.5". I think the extra length might straighten the front ride height like Rob1 says. I also thought a newer shock might be less likely to have the seals worn out.

Your EX shocks were in great condition, definately a nice find. Did you have to modify your bottom bushing to fit the lower stock bolt? Can you elaborate? Anybody have a good idea to replace the rear shock with an inexpensive "stock type" shock ? Thanks...

[TRKR]

13.5" is a huge difference from 12". Maybe if a diferent mount is made on the arms, and I believe they will still be too long. Just my opinion, of course. Someone else? Please.

TORKER.

[daddyrat]

Originally posted by TRKR
13.5" is a huge difference from 12". Maybe if a diferent mount is made on the arms, and I believe they will still be too long. Just my opinion, of course. Someone else? Please.

TORKER.

Torker, I know what your saying. I researched today and found that the EX 300 shocks measure 13" eye to eye. The Raptors would only be a half inch longer. I am not a shock expert but you always seem to get more travel from a set of Works shocks over stock ones. If you look at the shock, the Works lower body is about the same length as the exposed shaft. I noticed many stock shocks, like the Ex's, the body of the shock is around 3/4 of the length of the shock leaving only 1/4 exposed shaft left. My theory is that is how the Works shocks get more travel. I think the newer Raptor shocks have more travel. But I'm not sure...

Anyway, I was just thinking. Today I bounced a Raptor 250 front end and it seemed faily stiff. I bounced a Raptor 125 and it seemed softer. My boys don't race, softer would be better.

[Ride1Rob]

Our Elkas measured like 13.25 inches. Dropped right in and those were the shocks we used with the stock arms and the ChassisInc. arms. If I remember correctly to get a 13.5 to fit the front of the bike had to be lift off the ground, the shock compressed, and then bolted on. This gave the bike a pogo effect. Of course the mounts could be moved out .25 inches to offset the longer suspension.

[daddyrat]

Originally posted by Ride1Rob
Our Elkas measured like 13.25 inches. Dropped right in and those were the shocks we used with the stock arms and the ChassisInc. arms. If I remember correctly to get a 13.5 to fit the front of the bike had to be lift off the ground, the shock compressed, and then bolted on. This gave the bike a pogo effect. Of course the mounts could be moved out .25 inches to offset the longer suspension.

Thanks Ride1Rob, I can just find some EX300 shocks. I am not into moving mounts for just a set of stock Raptor shock. I looked at the Raptor shocks again last night and their travel appeared to be about the same as the Honda shock anyway.

Anybody have success replacing the rear shock? My stock shock has eyes at both ends and is 11" long. I found old 1978 yz80 dirt bike shock to be just over 11", but that seal has to be toast by now. I am still looking...

[Ride1Rob]

You could do the rear like we did ours and mod your own bracket and get rid of the sorry stcok setup. Would take some cutting and welding but would make huge difference and you'll get way more travel. I think we cut six inches off, rewelded the bracket, and dropped in a 14inch rear Elka. From the base of the brace to the bottom eye of the shock was 5inches for us. I sure do miss seeing this damn bike. She was a beauty! http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2541/62875895.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/62875895.jpg/)

[daddyrat]

Do you have a better picture of the swingarm mods? That quad was sweet, one of a kind...

[Ride1Rob]

I went back and did a search in the archives and this was all I could get. I know there's a post somewhere that I posted pics of the setup we had but can't find it. Post up a pic of your swinger and I'll photoshop what we did. http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8151/rebuild7.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/rebuild7.jpg/)

[daddyrat]

Originally posted by Ride1Rob
I went back and did a search in the archives and this was all I could get. I know there's a post somewhere that I posted pics of the setup we had but can't find it. Post up a pic of your swinger and I'll photoshop what we did. http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8151/rebuild7.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/rebuild7.jpg/)

Thanks for the offer but I'm not going that deep in the suspension. You did a great job though, I saw your videos, the quad handled great.