over a ton?

[woodsracer144]

what pick up trucks are over a ton? not the weight of it i know that it but like the half three qtr, one. are the like F450 and 4500 and 5500 like ton and half and two?

[ProspectorJim]

f250's are 3/4 ton and anything higher are 1 tons I believe.

[01boneless]

f150=1/2 f250=3/4 f350= ton f450 ton & 1/2 and so on

[HondaRacing83]

Originally posted by 01boneless
f150=1/2 f250=3/4 f350= ton f450 ton & 1/2 and so on stupid. f450 1 ton

[woodsracer144]

im gonna disagree, the 250's can be a 1 ton. chevy i know also have a heavy half set up. dont know if they still do or not, and i know you can have a F150 a 3/4 ton. my cousin has one. stiff as a board and cant pull a thing. but he got a good deal on it.


all i need is a rolling frame that would be the size of a ext. cab long box ford. that a ton and half.

[01boneless]

dont call me stupid , prick my dads had fords all his life and i looked this info up on goggle !

and if he has a f150 thats 3/4 its no stock form ?

[PaRedneckRiders]

I know this has to deal with chevys but my 84 K10 should be half ton but its registered as a 3/4 ton.
It had something to do with the unladen weight not being on the title and what they found classified it as a 3/4 ton idk for sure. So really im just paying more for a truck thats probably never going to pull anything more than stupid friends out of mud holes.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by 01boneless
dont call me stupied


Wow......


Anyways the F450 is 1.5 ton.

[Kovatch]

Trucks were classified as 1/2, 3/4, & 1 ton for many many years. Obviously they can handle (payload) more than that. Recently, as the automotive world become more and more competitive, the trend has been to beef up the 1/2 tons to be a lot stronger than their predecesors. Many 1/2 tons are capable of towing/hauling loads similar to that of the "old" 3/4 ton.

The specs for an 2009 F150: (http://www.fordf150.net/2009/2009-ford-f150-specifications.php)

Per the website, a 2009 F150 HD has payload of 3000lbs: ton & a half. The normal F150's payload is 1380-2010 depending on the configuration. Therefore, you techinically have a 3/4 or 1 ton F150.. Towing (hitch) capacity max (properly equipped) is 11,300lbs. I personally have towed over 13,000lbs with an 2009 F150 with an airbag set-up.

2002 F150 Specs (http://www.fordf150.net/specs/02f150.php)
Payload: 1,555-3010lbs
Towing (hitch): 4,200-8,800lbs

2009 F450
Payload: 6,190 (3+tons)
Towing (hitch): 16,000

I used to drive an F550 dump truck with the sticker indicating a GVWR of 19,800lbs.

Chevy came out w/ the 2500HD which is technically a 1 ton truck but classified as a 3/4. In some states, you have to pay an additional $25-40 for registration on a 1-ton truck & this "rebadging" of the 2500HD helps. I also recall seeing a 1500HD. Dodge has the 1500 Mega Cab that is badged as a 1500 is on the 2500s chassis. I've seen this first hand also.

01 Boneless is correct on the general rule of thumb when classifying trucks: 1/2 ton = F150 or 1500 3/4 = 1500HD F250 or 2500 1 ton = 2500HD F350 or 3500

Hopefully that helps.

[BlaineKaiser450]

I wish it was 25-40 extra in California! My 93 Dodge 1 ton is over $350 to register per year :ermm:

[99_300ex]

Danm blaine my 2000 3/4 dodge diesel is only 65$ in Iowa

[BlaineKaiser450]

Originally posted by 99_300ex
Danm blaine my 2000 3/4 dodge diesel is only 65$ in Iowa Yup ): California sucks... its a "commercial vehicle fee" which is rediculous because the heaviest thing my truck tows is a wakeboarding boat!

[CJM]

Generally speaking you can find beefed up all kinds of trucks. What matters is frame thickness (a 3/4 ton or better has a thicker frame) and the suspension. The suspension namely will have larger and stronger components and be made to handle the weight of what your doing IE Leaf Vs coil spring (kinda changed in the modern era tho b/c alot of HD trucks use coils these days).

HOWEVER: Understand that just because a truck is rated to tow or handle the payload doesnt mean it will do it happily. Ex: Take a 2010 F150-its claimed it canhandle quite a bit of weight and has a large tow capacity. Even with all the packages you need to have on the truck for this, if you were to load a pallet of say pavers into the truck, even with airbags or beefed up springs it would CRY. Now throw the same exact load into a 250 or 350 and it would handle it fine.

As for things over 1 ton such as a F450 or C4500, etc. These aint trucks your gonna buy b/c they are commercial sized and come with a HEFTY price tag. They are made to to work and be beat on daily, ever component is alot stronger than your normal pick up truck. I drove a Chevy C6500 Cat diesel 6 speed kodiak 22ft flatbed (the bed itself is 22ft btw, not just the truck itself) that had a GVWR of 25.5k lbs (just under the legal limit for needing a CDL). I also drove an F450 wrecker 4x4 that easily was GVWR of about 15klbs. These trucks as stated before cost upwards of 60k and arent for normal people unless you like big toys that eat gas.

Anyways, whats confusing today is the big 3 car companies like to tout they have HD this and that. In reality, HD is a marketing gimmick, load one of these so called HD whatever trucks and enjoy seeing just how well they handle it. if I was gonna buy a pick up and expect to load it often I want a Ford F250/F350 single rear wheel (same damn truck-they use a larger block and slightly bigger front axle -till about 05 when they use the same setup, on the F350). that truck will tow almost anything a normal person could want and handle any amount of work really.The chevy cant compare, IFS and torsion bars do not have the strength of a solid front axle, Id say dodge would be excellent too-but the unless its a cummins with a stick its junk.

btw, you can change the GVWR of your truck when you register it so you can save a few bucks. Theres a min and a max, my F250 is supposed to be (its listed as this) 8600 GVWR-I have it regged at 5000. What issue does this cause? If I was to tow something very larger and some idiot DOT guy nabs me (SUPER SLIM CHANCE IF EVER LOL) then they could fine me for going over my GVWR. Otherwise its just cheaper.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.

[woodsracer144]

Well a semi cab would be put on it a smaller pete or kenworth

[Ruby Soho]

Originally posted by CJM

btw, you can change the GVWR of your truck when you register it so you can save a few bucks. Theres a min and a max, my F250 is supposed to be (its listed as this) 8600 GVWR-I have it regged at 5000. What issue does this cause? If I was to tow something very larger and some idiot DOT guy nabs me (SUPER SLIM CHANCE IF EVER LOL) then they could fine me for going over my GVWR. Otherwise its just cheaper.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.

I did the same LOL

[woodsracer144]

That F150 came that way, there are some things they do only a few times and stop because of reasons, Farmall MD's have a high low and they would do 48mph easy all day long on the road, but what heavy load would that pull going that fast up a hill? also, Kenworth has a T800's normally have a sloped hood, a friend of mine has a 94 T800 that looks like a W900 with a shorter hood, its just a special that kenworth did for a few times, It was built from KW as a lowboy tractor and theres alot of weird ****.

All I want is a bare rolling chassis with the front and rear axles. I plan to do something like this

http://truckaccessoryguide.com/2006/09/14/dodge-ram-peterbilt-pickup-truck/


I would do a few things different, I would have the 5.9 motor in it being a P pump and also have a little longer WB and the box would be a little different but over all it would be close.. I would also extend the spots for your feet you you sit really low any your legs are pretty straight.

I sold a few of my projects now and I have the ablity to fab some stuff now.

[destey]

Back in the day on our farm we used to regularly load 8000lbs+ net weight on a 1991 Ford F350 when picking up a load of lime. Never had an issue with the frame or suspension, but stopping was difficult. Had to push pretty hard on the brakes.