This is why no one respects cops anymore

[madskrillz2]

Kinda lengthy but worth the watch. Makes me sick because I carry and I don't understand how the guy kept his cool. I'd be irate.

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[Tommy Warren]

whats the point of carrying a weapon you can't use anyways?

[madskrillz2]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
whats the point of carrying a weapon you can't use anyways?

What makes you think you can't use it?

[CJM]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
whats the point of carrying a weapon you can't use anyways?

id carry a cop but they are a bit to heavy.

[Tommy Warren]

Originally posted by madskrillz2
What makes you think you can't use it?

if you use it you go to jail....if someone is shooting at you, your telling me you can pull your gun and load it before he hits you? anyways all I'm seeing lately online is people carrying ak47's down the street just so the cops will stop and question them..they leave their ID at home and tell the cops that they don't have to give them a name and just walk away. I just like to walk the streets knowing that people aren't carrying weapons around. Our guns are registered and its tough to find one that isn't thats why the firearms murders are much lower in canada

[madskrillz2]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
if you use it you go to jail....if someone is shooting at you, your telling me you can pull your gun and load it before he hits you? anyways all I'm seeing lately online is people carrying ak47's down the street just so the cops will stop and question them..they leave their ID at home and tell the cops that they don't have to give them a name and just walk away. I just like to walk the streets knowing that people aren't carrying weapons around. Our guns are registered and its tough to find one that isn't thats why the firearms murders are much lower in canada

Uh yeah? Cause it's already loaded. Who carries an unloaded weapon?

[wilkin250r]

Yes, the officer over-reacted. But the guy is an idiot, too. The officer was mad because he was in the car while the guy had a gun and the officer didn't know it. The anger doesn't justify his actions, but it's certainly understandable that he's angry.

But to say that "I tried to tell you" is stupid. If you want to tell the officer, you can. To try to say the officer kept interrupting is an idiotic defense. If you have something important to say to the officer, you don't let him interrupt. And to me, the fact that he's REQUIRED by law to inform the officer he's carrying is pretty freaking important.

I bet if the driver was on FIRE, he'd find a way to tell the officer, wouldn't he?

[bens250ex]

that is ****ty atleast the poor fella kept his cool he did the best thing

[madskrillz2]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Yes, the officer over-reacted. But the guy is an idiot, too. The officer was mad because he was in the car while the guy had a gun and the officer didn't know it. The anger doesn't justify his actions, but it's certainly understandable that he's angry.

But to say that "I tried to tell you" is stupid. If you want to tell the officer, you can. To try to say the officer kept interrupting is an idiotic defense. If you have something important to say to the officer, you don't let him interrupt. And to me, the fact that he's REQUIRED by law to inform the officer he's carrying is pretty freaking important.

I bet if the driver was on FIRE, he'd find a way to tell the officer, wouldn't he?

See that's the point they were making with the subtitles. He tried numerous times and they just kept telling him to shutup. He probably didn't talk back because he was scared he would be the next person on the news for a police brutality case. You can see him hand him the permit when he gets out. Then the moron cop doesn't even look at it and still thinks he's carrying without a permit.

[Tommy Warren]

Originally posted by madskrillz2
Uh yeah? Cause it's already loaded. Who carries an unloaded weapon?

this guy doesn't have it loaded.....

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also there was 8100 gun related incidents in canada last year and over 100,000 in the US just sayin.......

[madskrillz2]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
this guy doesn't have it loaded.....

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also there was 8100 gun related incidents in canada last year and over 100,000 in the US just sayin.......

I don't care how many there were it's still your right to carry it. Plus, I guarantee over half of those incidents were people WITHOUT permits. Luckily I live in a state with the castle doctrine law so if I feel threatened I have a right to use it. That just skips the whole somebody else shooting at me situation.

[slightlybent47]

Cops like that need to be locked up, they are worse then a criminal. Just another bullie hiding behind a badge! I’d like to know what the outcome was in this case.
The cop said that the guy didn’t deserve to carry; truth is the cop is the one that needs to turn in his badge. Where is IA? Or is that where the video came from?

[HondaPohl]

I know some good cops. Ones that have helped me out in the past. Not all are bad. Its these young ****ers out of the academy tryin to pad there numbers.

And yes it is My and our right to carry a firearm. I never had to use it thank god but its there if I need it.

[destey]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Yes, the officer over-reacted. But the guy is an idiot, too. The officer was mad because he was in the car while the guy had a gun and the officer didn't know it. The anger doesn't justify his actions, but it's certainly understandable that he's angry.

But to say that "I tried to tell you" is stupid. If you want to tell the officer, you can. To try to say the officer kept interrupting is an idiotic defense. If you have something important to say to the officer, you don't let him interrupt. And to me, the fact that he's REQUIRED by law to inform the officer he's carrying is pretty freaking important.

I bet if the driver was on FIRE, he'd find a way to tell the officer, wouldn't he?

Hard to take your post seriously after watching the video.

Did you miss how the cop said he should execute him right there?

[Pappy]

I think a few things after veiwing the video and reading the updates.....

1. The guy could have been a tad more forcefull in informing the officer....with that said, the officer should have secured the driver after the two passengers were out of the vehicle and secure. It appears to me the officer was more intent on showing his "position" to the passengers instead of dealing with still an unknown person in the car.

2. The 2nd officer should have never entered the vehicle when the driver was still behind the wheel and not secured. That is a huge mistake on their part and could have been deadly.

3. The threats and demeanor of the officer prior to finding the weapon is exactly what many have run into over the years, especially minorities. The threats of beatings and being executed were totally off base and open that officer up to civil litigation as well as legal action against the city.

It is a crying shame that folks do not use common sense, be it the officer or the suspect. Ive been pulled over twice in the past 6 months and each time never asked about a weapon, even though I was armed both times. In WV we are not required to inform an officer of our CCW status unless asked. I think in regards to this video, we are witness to a substanial abuse of power. The threats alone would land anyone of us in jail if stated towards an officer.

And why people feel the need to start blabbing to the police is beyond me. You incriminate yourself by stating things you shouldnt. That guy should have stated he was seeking employment and thats it...no detail. If he was to be arrested, his lawyer can handle the rest. You are not talking your way out of trouble, just yes and no and thats it, be respectful and follow orders and deal with the rest when you have legal counsel. A police officer is not a judge.

August 1st is the pre trial date, and the officer has been on administrative leave pending the trail for the offender. It will be interesting to see the outcome.

[destey]

Originally posted by Pappy
I think a few things after veiwing the video and reading the updates.....

1. The guy could have been a tad more forcefull in informing the officer....with that said, the officer should have secured the driver after the two passengers were out of the vehicle and secure. It appears to me the officer was more intent on showing his "position" to the passengers instead of dealing with still an unknown person in the car.

2. The 2nd officer should have never entered the vehicle when the driver was still behind the wheel and not secured. That is a huge mistake on their part and could have been deadly.

3. The threats and demeanor of the officer prior to finding the weapon is exactly what many have run into over the years, especially minorities.

1.http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1206537_.html See this post regarding this (page 10, 2nd post down)

2. Agreed 100%. I would guess this violates departmental policy. I question whether the search had probable cause to justify.

The officer also had numberous (16?) complaints about him since 2003.


But this is none of your own damn business!!! Don't meddle in the affairs of others!!! (sarcasm see video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBfpBxY2J00&feature=player_embedded#at=81


edit: this bulletin board software is screwing up my link, here's the post text i was referencing in #1

"IIRC, the requirement in in OH is to notify "promptly" when detained. As part of the same code, the CCW holder is also required to abide by all directions of the officer during the stop (which would include "shut up", which is apparently what the officer searching the rear of the car told the driver when he attempted to notify at the earliest opportunity). This seems to be a case where the latter got in the way of the former, and the PD wants to charge the driver for their own mistake. "

[Pappy]

Bad link to AR15

Schulman is a schmuck

If I, as a legal citizen of this country, decide to drive through any legal area or road at anytime of the day or night legally armed then by all accounts I am 100% bonafide in doing so. This entire "if you are here at this time" makes you a criminal, then we have alot of work to do in taking back our country.

[Ichoptop]

"The two things I hate most are Gangs and Jocks...Cops are both" - Ice T

[rundrave]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren

also there was 8100 gun related incidents in canada last year and over 100,000 in the US just sayin.......]

seriously?

if you look at those numbers based on population there really isnt that much of a difference. Canada has a slight advantage but nothing to make a solid argument with.

[destey]

page 12, "Bama-Shooter," who is also a police officer, says

"Fire his ***, I don't care, he's obviously a major douche and madatory notification laws are a crock of ****. "

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1206537_.html

There are lots of very good cops, the bad ones need to be weeded out for many reasons (which are articulated well in several posts this thread)

[destey]

Originally posted by rundrave
seriously?

if you look at those numbers based on population there really isnt that much of a difference. Canada has a slight advantage but nothing to make a solid argument with.

http://gunowners.org/sk0802.htm

says it all

"Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives"

[Pappy]

I agree, I know far to many great LEO's to blanket them with the bad ones.

Ive met my fair share of them that need a new profession as well.....including one who tried charging me with impersonating a firefighter.

I refused to answer her questions until I retained a lawyer. She built her case and it all fell apart when she was informed I had been a volunteer fireman for years and the day of the "incident" I had rode to the scene with the chief LOL!

Threats and abuse of power....if she had made more of a stink I would have turned the lawyer on her full force.

[destey]

As someone that has a mentally ill person in the family, this disturbs me more than the ohio CCW case

http://gawker.com/5825010/police-beat-gentle-homeless-mentally-ill-man-to-death

Granted, there's almost no details, but still...

[Pappy]

What do you even say to that.....

[Tommy Warren]

thats just sad....the police force is just a government funded gang...they do what they want and the judge is always on their sides

[quad2xtreme]

scary ****...this could happen to anybody in this country. Might be better to get beat up by a gang instead.

[ngates788]

Originally posted by destey
As someone that has a mentally ill person in the family, this disturbs me more than the ohio CCW case

http://gawker.com/5825010/police-beat-gentle-homeless-mentally-ill-man-to-death

Granted, there's almost no details, but still...


:confused: :confused: :confused: im speechless

[CJM]

Plenty of bad cops out there, those that are bullies somehow always seem to pass the psych evals.

Most of them either are jerks all the time or are basically barred from being a cop sooner or later by thier attitude, actions and demeanor.

NJ is a horrible state, most officers are no better than thugs. For what its worth its not a bright idea to pull your weight behind a badge-it could get you killed. Such was the case in a town local to me where an officer basically beat a man for no real reason-the guy was indeed a gangbanger-but he didnt have contraband or a FA. His "brothers" hunted down the cop and beat the idiot to death. I say idiot b/c they were in the process of firing the guys arse b/c of all the complaints and problems he had.

[OldGuyonaQuad]

Originally posted by destey
http://gunowners.org/sk0802.htm

says it all

"Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives"

Really? 6,850 times a day? In the US? Even if you divide that evenly amongst the 50 states thats over 130 per state per day. I know I don't watch the news as much as I used to but even if only 10% of these said incidents occured wound up getting reported then surely I would hear of at least say half of those? Sorry this happens once every few months at best certainly not as often as that self serving propaganda would have you believe.

I subscribe to the notion (fact/myth/other propaganda)that statistically you you have a greater chance of shooting someone you know then you do an intruder. I'm not trying to start a gun debate but I found that self defense number to be a total crock.

Cops are either cool or complete douche bags. They either cut you a break or break your balls. Rarely is there a middle ground. I feel for the good cops and yea most of them are good cops, it only takes one prick on a youtube video to sway public perception.

Most of us have the luxury of going to work and not having to wonder if the next person we approach is going to take a shot at you. It's a thankless job.

This cop was way over the top. Pappy pretty much covered what I thought of the video. The cops made numerous mistakes and the driver was guilty of being a little stupid & scared.

I am too afraid to click on the other link sometimes I prefer the ostrich appraoch when it comes to societies ills.

Funny I came here to make a post asking who carries when they ride but I may have already found out.

[brian76708]

how about a good cop

http://www.wimp.com/goodcop/

[Pappy]

^LOL...well rounded officer, cant say many would have handled that very well!

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Pappy
^LOL...well rounded officer, cant say many would have handled that very well!

Especially when the guy refused to give him identification, or even his name. Most cops would have suspected something, and then become an a-hole in order to press the issue.

[Pappy]

Giving the info out isnt always a requirement. I would have to investigate which states demand it, and which ones dont. Most folks just do what ever they are told and assume the officer is always correct or within the law.

I know here, I can walk down mainstreet with my 45 cocked and locked and no one will say a word..a few nods...but thats it. Not uncommon to be in any store and see sidearms....we are an open carry state.

[440racer66]

i allways have a shotgun in my truck and when i turn 21 in jan i will have my concealed carry. but in the south just about everybody is packin something in there truck.

[madskrillz2]

Originally posted by 440racer66
i allways have a shotgun in my truck and when i turn 21 in jan i will have my concealed carry. but in the south just about everybody is packin something in there truck.

Damn right :D

[slightlybent47]

I had an employee go Sysco on me one day and after he tried to assault me I called the cops on him to have him removed from the shop. When the cops got there I explained the situation. 4 out of 5 of my “Mexican” employees lied and told the cops I had pulled a gun on them. They knew I always carried but I had no permit at the time.

They asked me if I did and I said no. then they asked if I had a gun and I said yes.
I told them I had a rifle in a case behind the seat of my truck “loaded”.

They took it out and unloaded it and put it back in the case and back behind my seat and put the bullets in my ash tray. They didn’t believe any of them and I promptly fired everyone that lied to the cops and I had them all escorted off the premises.

My boss and the owner backed me up 100% and never said another word about it.
In fact they gave me paid time off to go to the classes get my permit.

Luckily the cops that showed up were pretty nice and didn’t say anything about me having a gun in my truck without a permit.




On the other side, long story short. Me and a friend went fishing one weekend and had the misfortune getting stopped by some red neck cops that acted a lot like the ones in the first vid.
Lets just say it coast me a weekend in jail, they trashed my car and took all my money and ruffed us up pretty good. They made up false charges and made me pay fines in order to get out of jail. After I got a lawyer to help me, when he contacted them days later they clamed to have no records of us being stopped and arrested, jailed and charged or finned.

I’ve had it both ways.lol

[JForestZ34]

DOn't even get me started with these prick cops.. Just a show of force because they are all wussy behind the badge.. If I was the driver I would definatly pursue some kind of legal action with the comments about him saying he would execute the guy right there and not lose sleep over it..

I do think that the driver was in the wrong for not yelling that he was carrying right when the cop stepped out of his car.

But this douche bag cop is in the wrong for searching a car with a person still in the car... The one cop doing the searching should get desk duty until he goes through re-training and the other nut job should be fired.. You don't need cops like that on the street.

First the driver is being threatened with getting pulled over and towed everytime the cop saw him, and the getting threatened with getting shot..

Just shows how cops got balls when they are behind the badge.. Take the badge away and they will fall like a rock in a pond.. Right to the ground...


James

[Tommy Warren]

some of them love their jobs...
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[Tommy Warren]

here is another video of the same cop 'officer' Harles at it again threatening to shoot people, put them in a grave, and sleep well. there is also a petition out to have him removed from the force I can post it if you'd like.

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[JForestZ34]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
here is another video of the same cop 'officer' Harles at it again threatening to shoot people, put them in a grave, and sleep well. there is also a petition out to have him removed from the force I can post it if you'd like.

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Post the link. I'll sign the petition LOL


James

[Tommy Warren]

http://www.change.org/petitions/william-j-healy-canton-police-dept-dismiss-officer-harless-prosecute-him

they need 193 more sigs

[JForestZ34]

signed.. :blah:


James

[jzexrider]

This guy is a fu<&ing nut job. How did he even get the job in the first place?

[C41Xracer]

i signed it

[madskrillz2]

Me too. I'd love to catch that guy out when he's off duty.

[Thumpin440ex]

Cop over reacted by far, never let the guy get it out that he had a gun. Just another cop that abuses his power.. I hate ***n cops like this, the ones like this ruin the few decent ones that are out there... I see a lawsuit in hand..

John

[chucked]

Wow, I was ignoring this for awhile, but I finally watched it, the guy was so totally compliant, ****ing cops.....

[OldGuyonaQuad]

Yep I signed it too, this guy is a douche bag that gives civil servants a bad name.

[2004exrider]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
if you use it you go to jail....if someone is shooting at you, your telling me you can pull your gun and load it before he hits you? anyways all I'm seeing lately online is people carrying ak47's down the street just so the cops will stop and question them..they leave their ID at home and tell the cops that they don't have to give them a name and just walk away. I just like to walk the streets knowing that people aren't carrying weapons around. Our guns are registered and its tough to find one that isn't thats why the firearms murders are much lower in canada

I'll keep this simple without going into detail

Most states you may/will be detained, but thats until they figure out what happened and make sure you're actually the "good guy." If it's a justifiable shooting in self defense, you're not going to do time.

What makes you think that lawful concealed/open carriers have an unloaded pistol? I keep a full 17 round magazine with one in the chamber. The trick is being situationally aware that way its hard to be surprised by a thug, pushy panhandler, or any violent offender that may want to do you or your family bodily harm. There have been PLENTY of cases where an armed citizens life was saved because he chose to carry.

"I just like to walk the streets knowing that people aren't carrying weapons around." Hate to tell you, but just because its illegal to carry in Canada, criminals still do and will. That's why they're criminals. How well does a registered firearm work when they can steal it from someone else or buy it off the black market.

Jimmy

[buck440]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
this guy doesn't have it loaded.....

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also there was 8100 gun related incidents in canada last year and over 100,000 in the US just sayin.......

but the the thing is how are you goung to shoot someone if you don't like them you silly hockey lovers, just saying....

[muddy400EX]

ive ran into a couple cool cops, but id say 80% are badge bully's.

sometimes i wish it was like the wild west, just clean up the world by yourself:p

[slightlybent47]

Lets make all the cops carry there guns unloaded and see how they like it.
Or better yet make the cops unarmed like the ones in England and let’s see how brave they are then.

[SpasticR450]

Just the other day a cop came for music cause a neighbor called that has a prob with me he acts like a little kid and is in his 30s I have a vid of him trying to fight me over starting my car up at 7pm cause his wife was sleeping.

Well had music up at like 11pm then some one came over to hang so I had the music low so we could talk. And then a cops at my door not much after and the music wasn't even on at time. I didn't no who it was so open the door and seen a cop and ended up slamming the door in his face it was just a reaction. Kept the music down then cause I got the point. Later he comes back banging on my door and window with more cops. He was telling me to be a man and threatening me like he was going to fight me and then starts saying hes towing my friends car and im like WHAT no your not. The cop then started saying yes because I tole him to and I got mad and said no i didn't and to not take it and he kept saying over and over yep i did to say to tow it so i got pissed and tole em off bad and said Im recording all this and that I was going to show it. Just like that the cops left after I said that cause they didn't want to get in trouble lol. Then the one I called a name comes back the next day pissed over a name I called him and then ripped up my drive way in his cop car thats disorderly conduct with a vehicle.

Days later I get arrested while I was getting my mail on a so called warrant. :rolleyes: Me and the cops stood in my yard for 10 mins while they tried or i mean pretended to be trying to confirm I had a warrant. Well no conformation yet they cuffed me and put me in car then the 2 cops which was 2 because the one called for back up well they stood out side n talked for a few mins then took me to jail. I bet there was no warrant confirmation because i didn't have one. They put me in jail in lock down aka the hole for 27 hours refused to let me shower and refused to let me use phone and they lied and tole all the guards to watch out that I had TB so none would talk to me at all when I don't have TB. One tole me I was going to hell for listening to slipknot and another tole me to yell for him if people try to hurt me because hes not going to stop em. :rolleyes:

Well I got out 27 hours later not one single charge. They did it as pay back to me aka kid napping. I wonder how many other ppl they did this to.

The original neighbor that called for the music talked to my sister and said how they had a tow truck behind my house and a bunch of cops in front and behind my house and that the one cop that hates me for calling him a name will some times sit a block away spying on me. The cops a damn nut I think.

[JForestZ34]

I call 100% BS on this story. I know some cops are pricks but do you think they would do all that if they knew that IA could investigate it all.

Depends what jail your in but if your not admitting IE fingerprinted they won't let you do jack. You sit and wait.

Sorry but sounds like BS to me.

James

[SpasticR450]

Originally posted by JForestZ34
I call 100% BS on this story. I know some cops are pricks but do you think they would do all that if they knew that IA could investigate it all.

Depends what jail your in but if your not admitting IE fingerprinted they won't let you do jack. You sit and wait.

Sorry but sounds like BS to me.

James

No it's true. The cop that took me in was cool and nice to me and asked why I called the other one the name and asked why I was being arrested im like for having my music on and he said how it was total bs and that I should move to the country. They did book me and finger print. But zero charges. The cops are bad here. One smoked weed few years back with a drug dealer and then stole his pipe after. Another cop got pulled over wasted and got let go home because the chick cop wanted him to be arrested but the guy cop with her talked her into just letting him go. Another cop got drunk and ran his car into his own house. And the judge and DA do cocain my friends unkle used to be there drug dealer b4 he went to jail. It's a crazy town the. But the cop that took me to jail was fine the one that came as back up hates me for calling him the name. One was at the bar playing pool against my step dad and the cop was mad that he kept losing to him so got mad and tole him he had to leave the bar or he was going to arrest him lol. And in jail 2 of the chick guards well one is a blond ex stripper and the other flonts her stuff to get all the guys locked up to hit on her. :o And you can look up jail reviews or somthing like that and this is the only jail in the state you cant.

[JForestZ34]

Cops don't book and fingerprint you with no charges. That's a major violation of your civil rights. They know that and everything is video taped.

When you get finger printed and booked you have a record once that's done. I know a lot of cops are shady but I HIGHLY doubt they did all that with no charges. They can't just walk around cuff you throw you in jail and let you sit there for 27 hrs without formal charges.



James

[SpasticR450]

Originally posted by JForestZ34
Cops don't book and fingerprint you with no charges. That's a major violation of your civil rights. They know that and everything is video taped.

When you get finger printed and booked you have a record once that's done. I know a lot of cops are shady but I HIGHLY doubt they did all that with no charges. They can't just walk around cuff you throw you in jail and let you sit there for 27 hrs without formal charges.



James

I didn't tape anything I was bluffing to the cops when I said it but wish I really was.

Heres what the cop did. Not a big deal but still bs. I took the pic after to bring into the police dept to tell them to fix my drive way but then didnt because id rather not make things worse than are.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/dum/654645863-1.jpg

[SpasticR450]

A friend tole me they can hold you up to 72 hours on no charges but need to let you go with in 72 hours at less they put a charge on you.

[SpasticR450]

And here's more funny stuff. My lawyer 2 years back was telling me about hit men he knows about. Well My friends cousin ran from cops idk what it was over but ran in his car and a bunch of cops chased him. Then he got out of his car to run on foot and at time tried to call some one and the cops shot at him 70 somthing times killing him but also ended up shooting an illigal drunk mexican 2 times sitting out side lmao.
And what I was saying is My lawyer knew of hit men out to get a few cops he was telling me about and now hes the new DA! He also would tell me how he hates the cops in this town and would diss them bad lmao the new DA knows about hit men and hates the cops.

[buck440]

Originally posted by SpasticR450
And here's more funny stuff. My lawyer 2 years back was telling me about hit men he knows about. Well My friends cousin ran from cops idk what it was over but ran in his car and a bunch of cops chased him. Then he got out of his car to run on foot and at time tried to call some one and the cops shot at him 70 somthing times killing him but also ended up shooting an illigal drunk mexican 2 times lmao.
And what I was saying is My lawyer knew of hit men out to get a few cops he was telling me about and now hes the new DA! He also would tell me how he hates the cops in this town and would diss them bad lmao the new DA knows about hit men and hates the cops.

[JForestZ34]

Originally posted by SpasticR450
A friend tole me they can hold you up to 72 hours on no charges but need to let you go with in 72 hours at less they put a charge on you.


They might be able to hold for 72 hrs but they CANNOT finger print and book you without a formal charge.


James

[slightlybent47]

You’re forgetting one thing. Shortly after 911 the president or congress (not sure witch) came up with the patriot act witch all but eliminated most of the needing a warrant to do a search. All that’s needed is them to suspect you of being a terrorist and they can hold you indefinitely without charging you with anything at all. All that’s needed is for a cop to clam you made terrorist threat and your *** is done. Weather it be true or not.

[slightlybent47]

Originally posted by JForestZ34
I know some cops are pricks but do you think they would do all that if they knew that IA could investigate it all.
James

Isn’t that like having the fox guard the hen house?

[SpasticR450]

And what about this. Why is it that if a City cop pulls you over for being drunk you catch the charge but it dont show up on your record? But if a state cop pulls you over it does? Because that's how it is or is that just here? Because my step dad and best friend both got 1 drunk driving but it's not on there record because it was a city town cop that got them. Every one else pulled over by state or county cops it shows up on there record. I don't get it.

[slightlybent47]

Originally posted by SpasticR450
And what about this. Why is it that if a City cop pulls you over for being drunk you catch the charge but it dont show up on your record? But if a state cop pulls you over it does? Because that's how it is or is that just here? Because my step dad and best friend both got 1 drunk driving but it's not on there record because it was a city town cop that got them. Every one else pulled over by state or county cops it shows up on there record. I don't get it.

There are thousands of DUI cases that don’t have the same outcome, even though it’s the same charge. Not every department treats it the same.

[Tommy Warren]

Originally posted by SpasticR450
And what about this. Why is it that if a City cop pulls you over for being drunk you catch the charge but it dont show up on your record? But if a state cop pulls you over it does? Because that's how it is or is that just here? Because my step dad and best friend both got 1 drunk driving but it's not on there record because it was a city town cop that got them. Every one else pulled over by state or county cops it shows up on there record. I don't get it.

get drunk in the city then...party on

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Yes, the officer over-reacted. But the guy is an idiot, too. The officer was mad because he was in the car while the guy had a gun and the officer didn't know it. The anger doesn't justify his actions, but it's certainly understandable that he's angry.

But to say that "I tried to tell you" is stupid. If you want to tell the officer, you can. To try to say the officer kept interrupting is an idiotic defense. If you have something important to say to the officer, you don't let him interrupt. And to me, the fact that he's REQUIRED by law to inform the officer he's carrying is pretty freaking important.

I bet if the driver was on FIRE, he'd find a way to tell the officer, wouldn't he?

well the first thing they should of done is pulled the driver. Also the fact the office says that he would pull his gun and point it at him after he was cuffed was totally uncalled for. If that officer is still on the force I would be shocked. I have a few connections to the county cops around me and for the post part I havn't had any problems with them. half the time when I get pulled over the first thing they ask is " know why i pulled you over" i say" nope" then they say " does this thing reall have a cummins swap done" I smile and say " yep..." I dont really care as long as im not getting a fine out of the deal.

WI just got CCW. I want to have it and at the same time I don't cause all its going to do is put a bulls eye on your back and they will watch you like hawks, the first week i ownd my AK i had a black under cover drive by all the time and I live in the middle of no where I knew it was under cover cause of the mirrors they arnt the same as factory ones and how they drove and checked the place out.

In WI it legal to open carry and i have no problems with just open carry. but at the same time when your walking around most people are going to freak out and make a big deal out of it and then the cops get involved and then its just a bunch of **** you get put through, there was a guy in La Crosse wI and he was put in jail for open carry, not by a school or a bank or anything he was perfectly legal and some old nag called him in to the cops and he spent the night and jail for no reason. When it comes to fire arms there a point to have them but at the same time theres alot of people i wouldnt trust carrying one.

[FHKracingZ]

Just because something is suppose to get removed off of your record after a certain time does not mean anything. Usually you will have to wait 2-3 years depending on local law and file for a motion of expunge. That means the files will be shredded and no proof of any crime/charge will exist.

[trailrider894]

Not gonna spend all my time reading all of this thread, but I know that as a future police officer in academy, that the most scary part is approaching a car on a traffic stop. When the guy didn't really say right off of the bat, it is understandable that the cop got upset, i would do the same thing.

People who have bad experiences with the police usually were doing something illegal or irate, and those of us who have a good view of the police are the law abiding people who don't have to deal with them.

[madskrillz2]

Originally posted by trailrider894
Not gonna spend all my time reading all of this thread, but I know that as a future police officer in academy, that the most scary part is approaching a car on a traffic stop. When the guy didn't really say right off of the bat, it is understandable that the cop got upset, i would do the same thing.

People who have bad experiences with the police usually were doing something illegal or irate, and those of us who have a good view of the police are the law abiding people who don't have to deal with them.

Understandable? Maybe you should reconsider being a cop before you're the next video we see.

[SpasticR450]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
get drunk in the city then...party on

LMAO right.

Another thing is I spent time in jail and one guy came in 2nd drunk driving. He tole me how it was his 3rd but 1 was out of state so how it sounds is ever drunk driving can be your first as long as your in a new state every time? So you can have 50 1st drunk driving's lol

[destey]

U.S. federal agents allegedly allowed the Sinaloa drug cartel to traffic several tons of cocaine into the United States in exchange for information about rival cartels, according to court documents filed in a U.S. federal court.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18608410

[fastredrider44]

Originally posted by trailrider894
When the guy didn't really say right off of the bat, it is understandable that the cop got upset, i would do the same thing.



Understandable that the cop got upset? Sure. I'll give you that. Cussing him up and down, telling him he should have executed him, and putting on cuffs so tight the dudes hand went numb? No. The officer made a mistake, and covered it with more mistakes. If this is the way you're going to do things, I'm glad I don't live close.

[JForestZ34]

Originally posted by trailrider894
Not gonna spend all my time reading all of this thread, but I know that as a future police officer in academy, that the most scary part is approaching a car on a traffic stop. When the guy didn't really say right off of the bat, it is understandable that the cop got upset, i would do the same thing.

People who have bad experiences with the police usually were doing something illegal or irate, and those of us who have a good view of the police are the law abiding people who don't have to deal with them.


Upset yes. But the the way he handled it should cost him his job.. A patrol officer should be able to contain himself by not threatening citizen because they did something stupid.. The cop is more in the wrong because he didn't pull the driver first, or walk up and start talking to him..

I'm not sure of why when the cop pulled the license plate it don't come up with saying he was permitted to carry..?

I'm not saying the driver wasn't in the wrong, but the cop saying he should shoot him right there and not loose sleep over it I find a BIG problem with.. After this incident how do you know he wouldn't shoot someone to cover a bad mistake he made.. He already threatened someone with it already..

I know cops are stressed but they need more training or get a different line of work..


James

[buck440]

Originally posted by destey
U.S. federal agents allegedly allowed the Sinaloa drug cartel to traffic several tons of cocaine into the United States in exchange for information about rival cartels, according to court documents filed in a U.S. federal court.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18608410

they are quoting what drug dealers said lol. you going to believe what a drug dealer says?

[destey]

Originally posted by buck440
they are quoting what drug dealers said lol. you going to believe what a drug dealer says?

Yes, at this point I would believe a cartel member more than someone in our govt.

Have you read about gunrunner?

[mxdubbs]

It would of been funny if this cop pulled this on a solider. the cop would of been put down lol

[OldGuyonaQuad]

Originally posted by SpasticR450
And here's more funny stuff. My lawyer 2 years back was telling me about hit men he knows about. Well My friends cousin ran from cops idk what it was over but ran in his car and a bunch of cops chased him. Then he got out of his car to run on foot and at time tried to call some one and the cops shot at him 70 somthing times killing him but also ended up shooting an illigal drunk mexican 2 times sitting out side lmao.
And what I was saying is My lawyer knew of hit men out to get a few cops he was telling me about and now hes the new DA! He also would tell me how he hates the cops in this town and would diss them bad lmao the new DA knows about hit men and hates the cops.

Your cousin gets killed and an innocent bystander was shot and that's funny. You kiss the cops *** and if he is inclined and in a position to do so more times then not they will cut you a break. Break their balls and you get it back two fold. Sorry no sympathy here sounds like you need to get a clue and learn how to structure your sentances, reading your posts makes my head hurt.