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hawiianpwr
02-19-2003, 09:07 PM
Go out and get this months ATV Sport mag. They took all the sports quads and put them in one big shootout!
The Banshee vs. Cannibal vs. 400ex vs. KFX400 vs. Predator vs. Raptor vs. Z400:D

cabex
02-19-2003, 09:16 PM
take a picture of it so we can all read it. Sounds like a good article, I have the feeling that the pedetor will win

CBW
02-19-2003, 09:20 PM
i dont have to go out and get it,,,,it came in the mail........AND in a plastic bag this time:eek: Come to think of it so did my atv action:D


finally the mail person cant hack it all up,,,,,,,,,,


but i havent read the great 8 article yet,,,,,,,been too busy lookin at all the pictures,,,,,,,,,,,LOL

400exrules
02-19-2003, 09:20 PM
its gonna be predator vs. cannibal i bet

phatswinn
02-19-2003, 09:25 PM
man whens mine gunna come in the mail!!!!:grr

ieatglue
02-19-2003, 09:25 PM
whats the eighth one. you only mention 7

CBW
02-19-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by sponge_bob
whats the eighth one. you only mention 7

the DS650

raptor_02
02-19-2003, 10:16 PM
i bet the cannibal wins the MX portion. :D

hondaforlife
02-19-2003, 10:32 PM
The predator came in last in the last dirtwheels shootout

RIDER11X
02-19-2003, 10:38 PM
Yea, I got mine. Gotta love how they bash on the 400ex now! Went from the best handling-suspension-ergos-etc. to bouncy-slow-trail machine of the high performance class! Meanwhile it continues to win races everywhere including the recent Baja 1000 where it came out 2nd in the quads!.....Behind another Honda!
I need not explain any further on this site........you know what i'm talking about.:huh :ermm: :confused2 :grr :grr

Just had to vent.............Thanks!:cool:

RiPPiNiTuP7
02-19-2003, 10:49 PM
Anyone care to give some details? :D

02-20-2003, 07:37 AM
I'm sure the new Suzuki will win..you know it has like soooo much power over the others...:rolleyes:

wilkin250r
02-20-2003, 08:59 AM
It's pretty easy to add more power, not quite so easy to make a quad handle better beyond A-arms and shocks.

Unfortunately, in a shootout like this they compare stock or mildly-modified quads. The 400EX simply doesn't have the power to compete with the likes of the Raptor, Cannondale, or even Z400, even if the 400EX handles better.

speedy400
02-20-2003, 09:36 AM
what ever:grr mags piss me off

UglyMotha™
02-20-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Rico
I'm sure the new Suzuki will win..you know it has like soooo much power over the others...:rolleyes:


well dirt wheels did crown it the new king of the dunes:rolleyes:

phatswinn
02-20-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by UglyMotha
well dirt wheels did crown it the new king of the dunes:rolleyes:

rotflmmfgdao

well there new dune quad doesent have a heck of alot more anythign than a 400ex...including balls

SuperEX
02-20-2003, 10:51 AM
3 of the guys i ride with have the kfx's and a z, They aren't that fast I get them out of the hole almost everytime, the only time they outrun me is at full topend, and then they're barely gaining on me. they are great quads that are more up-to-date than an ex but they're not what the mags say they are (Rocketships)

Just my 2 cents, nice quads but people brag about them way too much

330exracer122
02-20-2003, 01:23 PM
haha z a dune king. no quad is ever gonna beat a shee in the sand

wheeltrax
02-20-2003, 01:28 PM
I agree, the banshee and the LT500r are the sand dune kings. they are in my opinion the best dune machines out there. The banshee is the best production duner out there.

jb400exxx
02-20-2003, 02:22 PM
the Z-400 really isn't that fast or that great in my opinion. my friend just got one and i keep right up with him. we are always right next to each other. but now he has a pipe, K&N filter, aluminum airbox and jetted so idk. gotta wait for the snow to melt and let things dry up a little and see what happens. oh and i need to get some holeshot XCR's cause my razr's are done(completly bald).

250x#93
02-20-2003, 02:39 PM
Mine came in a plastic bag to, woohooo!!!:devil Its about time they start to do that:blah Haven't read the article yet, but will soon:macho

hawiianpwr
02-20-2003, 03:01 PM
I got mine in the mail yesterday.

Brad
02-20-2003, 03:27 PM
i got mine,

THE PREDITOR WON

2 QuicK
02-20-2003, 03:48 PM
The Kenda tires won the MX tire shootout.....I was surprised. I new alot of people were running them but i didnt know they were that good.

Brad
02-20-2003, 03:50 PM
when my tire poped my friend let me use em on my 300EX for a day and i really didnt like em

Chanman420q
02-20-2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Brad
i got mine,

THE PREDITOR WON

i think this is what the order is

1) Preditor ( only cuz brad said so :mad: )
2) z400/KFX
3)Raptor
4)Cannondale
5)400ex
6)banshee
7)DS650

why are they competeing the KFX VS Z.. does one color make it a better machine?
:huh

honda400exrider
02-20-2003, 05:27 PM
thatd b funny if the z and kxf came in totally different places...:p wouldnt be suprised though

and i would get pissed if the z came in 1st, they are no better than a 400 in my opinion, i actually like the honda better:ermm:

wwhhhhhattever all those magazines are good for is cutting out the pictures and hanging them on yer wall:devil

Brad
02-20-2003, 05:28 PM
the only difference in the machine is the kfx has a protective layer on the head lights so it cant blind you :eek:

and im reading it right naw:D

i read the results first then the rest of the other less important information:chinese: :huh

Chanman420q
02-20-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Brad
the only difference in the machine is the kfx has a protective layer on the head lights so it cant blind you :eek:


ur right thats like 10 more hp

Brad
02-20-2003, 05:44 PM
im tellin ya

ya never know

Brad
02-20-2003, 05:51 PM
OMG, lol


the results for the tests

0-30 mph
z400 3.35 sec
kfx400 3.56

0-45 mph

z400 8.87sec
kfx400 8.78 sec

20-40mph

z400 4.04
kfx400 4.26


dont ya find it a little weird since their the same exact machine exept for a slab of plastic on the kfx?

Chanman420q
02-20-2003, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Brad
OMG, lol


the results for the tests

0-30 mph
z400 3.35 sec
kfx400 3.56

0-45 mph

z400 8.87sec
kfx400 8.78 sec

20-40mph

z400 4.04
kfx400 4.26


dont ya find it a little weird since their the same exact machine exept for a slab of plastic on the kfx?

10 hp man

Brad
02-20-2003, 05:55 PM
ill never doubt u again:chinese:

Chanman420q
02-20-2003, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Brad
ill never doubt u again:chinese:

lol u are forgiven :D

Brad
02-20-2003, 05:57 PM
:chinese:

300exjuggalo
02-20-2003, 06:06 PM
Yes master YAGA SOKI MUhASA Xiuou:chinese: :chinese: , thats funny the z400/kfx or the 400ex humm i like the 400ex still better its a honda :rolleyes: and the only thing people say that is better when you say whuts so better about them then a 400ex is their like it has reverse :eek: o F**k that reverse is for people who cant get off their arse and push it out :macho us honda people are :macho enough to do so with out cryin about it:cool:

so GO HOndA and EXRIDERS WOOO WOOO:devil

Brad
02-20-2003, 06:08 PM
well said

exept i have a 300EX

i like my reverse for naw

raptor_02
02-20-2003, 06:33 PM
tell us some details about the shootout. I can't believe the cannibal did that bad. It will smoke all those quads. Drag, MX, TT , cross country it doesn't matter. I hate the way they pick the winners. They think comfort is a very important issue. More important than speed :huh

Chanman420q
02-20-2003, 07:03 PM
what did everything rank???

toby400ex
02-20-2003, 07:38 PM
ya know, when are they gonna stop doing the shoot outs, everyone has done the same one like 3 times.:huh

Chanman420q
02-20-2003, 07:51 PM
who came in 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th and.... 8th?

Paul400ex2002
02-20-2003, 08:06 PM
what kind of kenda tires are you guys saying won the mx tire shootout? I'd like some info.

hawiianpwr
02-20-2003, 09:34 PM
Well they sadi if you wanted a racing ready quad the predator and cannidale were the ones to get. They gave the edge to the polaris because of the better ride

raptor_02
02-20-2003, 10:09 PM
lol they said the Predator would be a better race quad as the DALE??? Well..........i think that's a big bunch of BS. Sense when was HEAVIER and LESS POWER better???????

phatswinn
02-20-2003, 10:20 PM
they dont use the moto or speel they use the cannible that could be whats wrong, either way, the predater would win its a really nice quad, i called dirtwheels and canceled my subscription last year after 5 years of subscibing to the cuz there so full of crap, but it was worth the pics

either way it gets the jamacin japanese guys approval:chinese:

Nausty
02-20-2003, 11:48 PM
lolol, don't get me started on this dirtwheels, atv action crap. I saw in one of them where they said a raptor was a better mx quad then a 400ex:o Oh plz. When I go to the races the quad classes are dominated by the 250r's and 400ex's. The only "problem" I see with the 400ex is the air cooling which is only a problem if you wanna mod the p*** out of it. Anyways, I find some of the articles in those magizines to be a joke and once you've read one you've pretty much seen em' all.

Brad
02-21-2003, 05:15 AM
amen

RIDER11X
02-21-2003, 08:50 AM
Sounds like more and more riders are getting tired of paying for biased info, including me. That just really makes appreciate a site like this where you get honest opinions, because nobody is padding the wallet to say certain things, its just truth, good or bad.

Thanks Ben, for keeping this going!:cool:

hondaforlife
02-21-2003, 01:04 PM
The only good thing about dirtwheels is that you can compare prices of different products and watch for new products comin' out for your quad, as far as all the other pages in between, they make good toilet paper

Brad
02-21-2003, 02:32 PM
that would hurt but if ur poor it works

Honda4ooEX
02-21-2003, 04:00 PM
you know what makes me upset, the fact that all the honda 400ex really needs to run with the bigger CC quads and beat the smaller 400CC ones is a higher compression piston. If the 400EX came stock with an 11:1 like the Z400 and a stock XR cam then it would have more power. I don't even consider doing a shoot out with the 400EX until the playing field is leveled. I know they are trying to pick the best stock quad. But They always fail to mention compression and what not. It honda would have just done the 11:1 and an XR cam then the Suzuki would be coming in last. Well maybe not I, when you figure Suzuki payed off DW. They never say anything bad about the Z400, not even about the axles and we all know they sucked.

ZRider400
02-21-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Honda4ooEX
you know what makes me upset, the fact that all the honda 400ex really needs to run with the bigger CC quads and beat the smaller 400CC ones is a higher compression piston. If the 400EX came stock with an 11:1 like the Z400 and a stock XR cam then it would have more power. I don't even consider doing a shoot out with the 400EX until the playing field is leveled. I know they are trying to pick the best stock quad. But They always fail to mention compression and what not. It honda would have just done the 11:1 and an XR cam then the Suzuki would be coming in last. Well maybe not I, when you figure Suzuki payed off DW. They never say anything bad about the Z400, not even about the axles and we all know they sucked.

Dirtwheels and atv action did mention the axle problem.....they actually ran a durablue heavy duty axle for the testing after they bent the stock axle.

northeast400
02-21-2003, 04:44 PM
I say the heck with stock ones!! Lets test all the same quads done by custom companys, I bet the results will be different after They test a CT Racings EX "bring on the suzuki POS":blah

Chanman420q
02-21-2003, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Chanman420q
which quads came in 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th and.... 8th?

wilkin250r
02-21-2003, 06:10 PM
Why does dirtwheels even call it a shootout? They should just be truthful and call it the Payout!:D

Brad
02-21-2003, 07:55 PM
agreed