Creed of Our Society....

[trailrider894]

CAUTION!!! The SPIN STOPS HERE!!!


CREED

We believe in Marx/Freud/Darwin/Nietzsche/Lukacs/Gramsci/Sanger/Dewey/Bloom

We believe everything is "OK"
As long as you don't hurt anyone
To the best of your definition of hurt,
and to the best of your knowledge
Unless they are radical right fundamentalist who believe in the " Second Coming", God, Logos...

We believe in sex before during and after marriage.
We believe in therapy of sin.
We believe that adultery is fun
We believe that sodomy is "OK"
We believe that taboo's are taboo
We believe in pleasure, syphilis, AIDS
We believe that anatomy is Destiny

We Believe that everything's getting better, despite evidence to the contrary.
The evidence must be investigated, you can prove anything with evidence.

We believe there's something in horoscopes, comets, UFO's and bent spoons.
Jesus was a good man just like Buddha, Muhammed and ourselves.
He was a good moral teacher although we think his morals were bad.
We prefer free love and virtue.

We believe that all religions are basically the same, at least one we read was.
They all believe in love and goodness.
They only differ on the matters of Creation, Sin, Heaven, Hell, God, and Salvation.

We believe that after death comes nothing, because when you ask the dead what happens, they say nothing.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied, then it's compulsory heaven for all; excepting perhaps Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan.

We believe in Master and Johnson
What's selected is average
What's average is normal
What's normal is good

We believe in total disarmament.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and bloodshed
Americans should beat there guns into tractors, and the russians and chinese will be sure to follow.

We believe in world government
We believe in Gorbachev and Shakhnazarov
We believe in synthesis of western capitalism and Eastern communism equals world socialism.
We believe in socialism.
We believe in abolition of property, family, and traditional values.

We believe that man is essentially good.
It's only his behavior that lets him down.
This is fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society.

We believe that each man must find the truth that is right for hiim
Reality will adapt accordingly
The universe will readjust, history will alter.
We believe that there is no absolute truth.
Excepting the truth that there is no absolute truth.

We believe in rejection of creeds.......
We believe in everything.....
We believe in nothing.....
We are dead men waling to the abyss....
Follow us and we'll make you dead men too!










The creed was desgined by me and several other fellow students for a Christian Leadership Conference... In a poll we took amongst people who read this, all of which were people on a college campus at random, we found that on average, 7 of 10 people regardless of race, sex, religion, republican or democrat, gay or lesbian, student or teacher, employed or unemployed, found the things in this creed to be valid in the method of life that you and i are living in right now!!!!!!!!!

[trailrider894]

Also, remember that today was the day that Christ arose from the grave and defied that accusations of the masses.

Good Friday was stunning, as pulling into the church parking lot for the Good Friday Service, a massive storm system was rolling in and the tornado sirens in the valley below were going off. Just like as if in that very moment well over a thousand years ago, christ was hanging on the cross!! When you see a scene like this....

http://www.haldermanhome.com/luiseno/weather/FeaturedPicture/WallCloud2.jpg

Tell me that your mind doesn't wander and think about what kind of wonderful creator... OR accident.... could have designed or magically made that happen...

[CJM]

I like your creed, good stuff.

Your poll shows just how stupid people really are.

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by CJM
I like your creed, good stuff.

Your poll shows just how stupid people really are.

Exactly... People are un-educated and selfish.

I am especially disturbed by a recent newscast I saw tonight about the Tornadoes that ripped through Mid-Missouri just miles from my home on friday night. A man was being interviewed and he said " I sure am glad that the tornado didn't hit my home, and instead hit theres... I don't think I could survive my house being torn apart, even if i wasn't inside.". The man was sitting on his front porch in a lawn chair holding a Blue Ribbon Beer. I wanted to scream at him through the TV and say..." people's lives were altered, loved ones were taken, and livelyhoods were destroyed in seconds just feet from your home and all you can do is sit there and thank that it hit those homes instead of yours??? " By all means, i would rather it have been mine than that gorgeous family of 7 who lost everything they had ever worked for... Just food for thought....

[Thumpin440ex]

Originally posted by CJM
I like your creed, good stuff.

Your poll shows just how stupid people really are.

Exactly.. And it isn't goin to get any better as far as people and brains.. People now are just to easily persuaded into bull****, what have you.. At least you 2 seems you still have some common sense and brains left.. :cheers:


John

[Tommy Warren]

can someone explain whats going on in this thread?

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
can someone explain whats going on in this thread?

It is talk about what is effed up in the world.... and yes canada included... If you don't understand the thread, you could quite possibly be one the people who live by the creed... lol

[ben300]

Originally posted by trailrider894
It is talk about what is effed up in the world.... and yes canada included... If you don't understand the thread, you could quite possibly be one the people who live by the creed... lol

see, i understand what your trying to do by this thead, but i agree with tommy, its extremely confusing. Usually when somone announces their creed of intent it is a creed of the beliefs and values they have....i understand your trying generalize and say that some if not all the points in thsi creed are how the "flock of carelesss, ignorant human sheep" thinks and feels, but this is not how i feel....

...and i would never go for any of these beliefs

[cdrookie]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
can someone explain whats going on in this thread?


sounds like jesus freaks who talk down to you if you don't follow their beliefs... just like all the other religion, political, drug, or pitbull threads, this will end in disaster:devil:

[Tommy Warren]

Originally posted by trailrider894
It is talk about what is effed up in the world.... and yes canada included... If you don't understand the thread, you could quite possibly be one the people who live by the creed... lol


i don't believe half that crap...does that make me a bad person?

[ben300]

and on another note, i know tornados have been devisating the country lately, but that picture you posted is jsut awesome...pure eye candy

[lasher45]

Originally posted by cdrookie
sounds like jesus freaks who talk down to you if you don't follow their beliefs... just like all the other religion, political, drug, or pitbull threads, this will end in disaster:devil:

2nd that.

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by cdrookie
sounds like jesus freaks who talk down to you if you don't follow their beliefs... just like all the other religion, political, drug, or pitbull threads, this will end in disaster:devil:

So is being a Jesus Freak wrong?? I am in no way trying to look down on anyone... Just posting some thoughts. I never made a claim that i live a perfect life.. Unfortunetly i fall right into the guidelines of that creed. The creed is OBVIOUSLY sarcastic and intended to just be thought provoking. Take it how you will...

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
i don't believe half that crap...does that make me a bad person?

Tommy, nope it sure doesn't. :D I understand how it is confusing... Its meant to be sarcastic... I realize that not EVERYONE is like that, but most of us can sign our names by atleast one of those things. I was in no way trying to target individuals or attack members... Everyone on here seems to be level headed and hard working people...

[cdrookie]

nothing wrong with being a jesus freak, it's when they try to convince everyone else to be one...

[ben300]

Originally posted by cdrookie
nothing wrong with being a jesus freak, it's when they try to convince everyone else to be one...

+1...

im catholic, and go to church and pray from time to time and all that schamze, but sometimes the revival church jesus freaks are as bad as hard core muslims in my honest opinion. just my thoughts

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by ben300
+1...

im catholic, and go to church and pray from time to time and all that schamze, but sometimes the revival church jesus freaks are as bad as hard core muslims in my honest opinion. just my thoughts

Yup but i'm not throwing anything upon anyone, and not trying to " convince" anyone of anything... All i can do is say what i think then the rest is up to you. Now am i a Jesus Freak?? I think that everyone has atleast met one southern baptist that made a bad impression on them... " if you sin your going to hell like it or not" yadayadayada..... blah blah blah.... Whatever.... not all christians are like that.... I would say I am just like every single one of you... I bet none of you knew i was a christian unitl now did ya?? I've never thrown anything on anyone...

[trailrider894]

and not all " christians " are " Jesus Freaks ".

[OldGuyonaQuad]

I got it, realy I did but yes you did push your beleifs on others who don't see eye to eye with your sarcastic creed.

Originally posted by trailrider894
The creed was desgined by me and several other fellow students for a Christian Leadership Conference... In a poll we took amongst people who read this, all of which were people on a college campus at random, we found that on average, 7 of 10 people regardless of race, sex, religion, republican or democrat, gay or lesbian, student or teacher, employed or unemployed, found the things in this creed to be valid in the method of life that you and i are living in right now!!!!!!!!![/B]

otherwise please explain your infomral poll with all of the !!!!!!!!

I don't get my panties all up in a bunch, and even though this is an open forum discussing politics and religon always ends badly.

Like I said I took this lightly but I can see where the other remarks are coming from.

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by OldGuyonaQuad
I got it, realy I did but yes you did push your beleifs on others who don't see eye to eye with your sarcastic creed.


otherwise please explain your infomral poll with all of the !!!!!!!!

I don't get my panties all up in a bunch, and even though this is an open forum discussing politics and religon always ends badly.

Like I said I took this lightly but I can see where the other remarks are coming from.

I can understand your thinking... I apologize if that is how it came off. It was specfically designed to not push beliefs on anyone. I was saying that it is what you and I are living in, not what we are doing.

[OldGuyonaQuad]

No worries bro, no need to aplogize either. Like I said I go it, I was just explaining where the Jesus freak comments were coming from. Discussing religon in public forums always becomes heated. I usually just sit back and try not to let the flames singe my eye brows ;)

[buck440]

Originally posted by trailrider894
It you could quite possibly be one the people who live by the creed...

**** YAH DUDE!:bandit: i live life, not worry about.

i'd rather live then live forever.

[ben300]

Originally posted by trailrider894
Yup but i'm not throwing anything upon anyone, and not trying to " convince" anyone of anything... All i can do is say what i think then the rest is up to you. Now am i a Jesus Freak?? I think that everyone has atleast met one southern baptist that made a bad impression on them... " if you sin your going to hell like it or not" yadayadayada..... blah blah blah.... Whatever.... not all christians are like that.... I would say I am just like every single one of you... I bet none of you knew i was a christian unitl now did ya?? I've never thrown anything on anyone...

and i did not say you were a jesus freak, nor do i care what you believe in, thats your freedom and your choice...

i was just making a generalized statement that the bible thumping, born again, "if you dont stop sinning now", jesus freaks are sometimes as bad as radical, anti western muslims

[CJM]

Its sarcasm guys..lol.

[buck440]

first of all sodomy. what's wrong with a bj or some backdoor play? what's wrong with a good rimer? if she wants to play fireman who's to say she can't be the fire and me and my bud can't be the firemen?


op, please get out more.

[buck440]

Originally posted by trailrider894
The creed is OBVIOUSLY sarcastic

obviously not

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by CJM
Its sarcasm guys..lol.


THank you CJM. Who woulda ever guessed such a well established and well thought out item could be turned into a flame throwing match.

[CJM]

IDK, I realized it was sarcasm the moment I read it. Reason I know that is b/c Im positive you and I think along the same lines politically-based on your post.

Course this forum can be tricky sometimes, people then again are to literal as well.

[trailrider894]

Originally posted by CJM
IDK, I realized it was sarcasm the moment I read it. Reason I know that is b/c Im positive you and I think along the same lines politically-based on your post.

Course this forum can be tricky sometimes, people then again are to literal as well.

Yeah, seems like only the ones who actually take up an interest in politics actually know the history of it, and the terms and names.