pic of my lobo

[twopump78]

my lobo

[twopump78]

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[motochamp250]

man that's awesome! i'd love to have a setup like that....

[Jesse1980]

sweet ride but we well see who's faster down at the dunes

[8686]

Sweet quad. How does that ESR air filter kit fit on your Lobo? How tight is the fit between the frame rail and shock? Are you running a CR250 intake boot? Reed spacer?

[norcalduner]

Nice Lobo. What year is that ? Got any close up pics of the rear and front end ? Also, what are you using for a steering stabilizer ?

[hawaiiysr]

bottom rail is square? nice swing arm.

[twopump78]

Originally posted by norcalduner
Nice Lobo. What year is that ? Got any close up pics of the rear and front end ? Also, what are you using for a steering stabilizer ? its a 97 ill get some pics of the front and rear. Steering stabilized is off needs rebuilt I think it is a denton.

[twopump78]

Originally posted by 8686
Sweet quad. How does that ESR air filter kit fit on your Lobo? How tight is the fit between the frame rail and shock? Are you running a CR250 intake boot? Reed spacer? thanks. it is a real tight fit while putting it on. once on it has aBout 1/16 to 1/8 on each side. Yes cr250 boot force reeds.

[twopump78]

Originally posted by hawaiiysr
bottom rail is square? nice swing arm. yes the bottom rail is square everything else is round.

[twopump78]

8686 that's the sparks mx pipe. Still thinking about tring out my lrd adjustable. Did you ever find a sparks pipe?

[8686]

Originally posted by twopump78
8686 that's the sparks mx pipe. Still thinking about tring out my lrd adjustable. Did you ever find a sparks pipe?

Yeah I did end up finding one. Probably gonna run it on my Laeger this year. I'm not sure your Lobo is a 1997. I think at the earliest it is a 1998. The last run of Lobo chassis was from roughly 98-02, though I've seen them listed as 03 and 04, too. Mine I know for a fact is a 1997, and there are some differences from mine to yours. The first is the bottom subframe mounting points. Your frame and subframe tubes join eachother close to the frame. On mine the frame has studs that stick up a few inches that the subframe slides down on to. It could have been a running change that he did in 1997, though. With no tags on these frames it's sometimes hard to tell.

Another spot is the upper a-arms. Mine are a two piece design. The front tube and rear tube are bolted together. The 98+ Lobo's had one piece upper a-arms. My upper ball joints match the bottoms in design, where I believe the 98+ use more of an open heim design for the upper ball joint.

Another is the stem design. The earlier ones had a longer tab at the bottom were the inner tie rod ends bolt on, thus increasing the throw of the steering input and generating quicker steering. At least that is what I surmise from it. I'm not sure if Doug wanted to slow down the steering of the 98+ Lobo's, but that steering tab that the inner tie rod ends bolt to is shorter. This would also put the slot in the bottom frame rail for the inner tie rod ends to slide through in a different location.

Your rear motor mounts might be a slightly different design as well.

Which a-arms and swingarm do you have? I have three different sets of a-arms and two different swingarms for my Lobo.

Hhmmm.....what else.....lol.

These chassis really are a work of art, though. Sometimes I just sit and stare at it. Lol. So much more advanced and altered than both my Laeger and Walsh quads.

[twopump78]

Originally posted by 8686
Yeah I did end up finding one. Probably gonna run it on my Laeger this year. I'm not sure your Lobo is a 1997. I think at the earliest it is a 1998. The last run of Lobo chassis was from roughly 98-02, though I've seen them listed as 03 and 04, too. Mine I know for a fact is a 1997, and there are some differences from mine to yours. The first is the bottom subframe mounting points. Your frame and subframe tubes join eachother close to the frame. On mine the frame has studs that stick up a few inches that the subframe slides down on to. It could have been a running change that he did in 1997, though. With no tags on these frames it's sometimes hard to tell.

Another spot is the upper a-arms. Mine are a two piece design. The front tube and rear tube are bolted together. The 98+ Lobo's had one piece upper a-arms. My upper ball joints match the bottoms in design, where I believe the 98+ use more of an open heim design for the upper ball joint.

Another is the stem design. The earlier ones had a longer tab at the bottom were the inner tie rod ends bolt on, thus increasing the throw of the steering input and generating quicker steering. At least that is what I surmise from it. I'm not sure if Doug wanted to slow down the steering of the 98+ Lobo's, but that steering tab that the inner tie rod ends bolt to is shorter. This would also put the slot in the bottom frame rail for the inner tie rod ends to slide through in a different location.

Your rear motor mounts might be a slightly different design as well.

Which a-arms and swingarm do you have? I have three different sets of a-arms and two different swingarms for my Lobo.

Hhmmm.....what else.....lol.

These chassis really are a work of art, though. Sometimes I just sit and stare at it. Lol. So much more advanced and altered than both my Laeger and Walsh quads.

I'm really not sure on the swing arm. The front a arms do have the pivot on the upper arms when I get home ill get some .more pics of the front and rear. Maybe you could school me on some things.

[8686]

Originally posted by twopump78
I'm really not sure on the swing arm. The front a arms do have the pivot on the upper arms when I get home ill get some .more pics of the front and rear. Maybe you could school me on some things.

Interesting. You do have the older style a-arms then. Maybe the subframe mounting change was a running change he made in 1997. I have two swingarms, both non gull wings style like yours. One is a 17.5, one is 18.0. I believe they also made a 18.5 and a rare TT model as well, something like 15.0 inches center to center. I have an old school set of a-arms that aren't quite as wide as my other two sets. The lowers are fully triangular and they are non gull wing. Then I have two gull wing sets. One that is +0 forward, and one that is +1 forward. The geometry of Roll frames is very trick. The lower a-arms mounts are even narrower than a Laeger or Walsh narrow, yet I think the upper a-arm mounts are wider than a stock frame! Crazy.

[twopump78]

Originally posted by 8686
Interesting. You do have the older style a-arms then. Maybe the subframe mounting change was a running change he made in 1997. I have two swingarms, both non gull wings style like yours. One is a 17.5, one is 18.0. I believe they also made a 18.5 and a rare TT model as well, something like 15.0 inches center to center. I have an old school set of a-arms that aren't quite as wide as my other two sets. The lowers are fully triangular and they are non gull wing. Then I have two gull wing sets. One that is +0 forward, and one that is +1 forward. The geometry of Roll frames is very trick. The lower a-arms mounts are even narrower than a Laeger or Walsh narrow, yet I think the upper a-arm mounts are wider than a stock frame! Crazy.

I need to check to see what I have. I did not know about all the different set ups. I wish I had some extra parts. I talked to Doug last summer when I changed my brushing on the lower arms and told him what I had. And he said " wow you have an old one " and that it was nice to see it still around and being used.

It's nice to talk with someone who knows about these frames. Because I can't really find anything on the web about them.

[twopump78]

front

[twopump78]

side

[twopump78]

swinger

[twopump78]

top

[twopump78]

Originally posted by 8686
Sweet quad. How does that ESR air filter kit fit on your Lobo? How tight is the fit between the frame rail and shock? Are you running a CR250 intake boot? Reed spacer? I check today when i got home it is probably less than 1/16" on both sides from frame rail and shock.

[Higgy87TRX425]

Damm thats more info then I ever knew about the Lobo chassis. Speaking of these frames, mine has a vin # and a title. Its a 2000 model. Its interesting to see the difference between the years. My a-arms have the heim joint style on top. I'd never seen the older stle that has the bottom style balljoint before. Thats cool Did any of you guys see the vintage Roll Lobo catalog on E-bay for $50.00? damm. I still want to own it though, lol. Thats a good looking bike you have there!!

[norcalduner]

Thanks for all the other pics twopump78.

Thanks 8686 for all the info you shared as you will now be our resident Lobo specialist/historian.

This is just awesome. Guys we need to have some sort of registry for all Lobo owners in this forum so we could share and preserve this kind of info (and pics) for future reference and owners. I for one take a lot of pride in owning mine.

[J.B.]

I know of someone with a Lobo sleeping in the garage. I am still saving for the day he sells it. :devil:

[becci4]

Originally posted by norcalduner
This is just awesome. Guys we need to have some sort of registry for all Lobo owners in this forum so we could share and preserve this kind of info (and pics) for future reference and owners. I for one take a lot of pride in owning mine. [/B]

This would be a really good idea! I just started the roll this morning, gotta love the smell of 2-stroke race fuel :D

[K-Dub]

Got to take the first actual ride on my Roll just now. Its an 04. Its just an awesome feeling the Lobo, Custom Axis combo. Just riding it in the woods behind my house, I have a 7' wide loop to ride for now with it being so wet. Been riding my 450R around for weeks, the Roll soaks up the bumps and ruts so much better. And the PC2000 is scary fast vs my 450.

[8686]

Just for comparison sake, here's a couple pics of my 1997 Lobo.

http://i54.tinypic.com/307u7bn.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/c3wuq.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/2zhms92.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/161g6z8.jpg

[wild250rman]

comparison sake or just showing off a little? lol.

[norcalduner]

Becci4, K-dub, and Higgy ..... if you fellas don't mind, can you post up some pics of your Lobo's with and without the plastics.

Sorry for thread hijack twopump78 but I'm sure you understand haha :devil:

[twopump78]

Originally posted by norcalduner
Becci4, K-dub, and Higgy ..... if you fellas don't mind, can you post up some pics of your Lobo's with and without the plastics.

Sorry for thread hijack twopump78 but I'm sure you understand haha :devil:

I don't mind at all. I'm glad guys are posting.

[norcalduner]

8686 ..... Is it me or do you think that the gullwing swinger is the holy grail of the Lobo part since I can't seem to find one for the last 3 or so years I've been searching?

[SilverLake250R]

Originally posted by norcalduner
8686 ..... Is it me or do you think that the gullwing swinger is the holy grail of the Lobo part since I can't seem to find one for the last 3 or so years I've been searching?

Yes, they are pretty rare. I did find one last November on ebay though, just got it installed last week!

[K-Dub]

As of now I dont have any picture's with the plastics off. Here are a few with the plastic from when I first bought mine. If it dont rain Ill take the plastics off later and get a few and post.

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/Roll9.5.JPG

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/Roll10.5.JPG

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/Roll14.JPG

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/roll7.JPG

I read on the net somewhere that the Gullwing swingers that Roll still makes will fit this chassis. Is this correct? I have a list of questions for Doug Roll and been trying to get ahold of him for a month but havnt managed yet.

[8686]

Originally posted by norcalduner
8686 ..... Is it me or do you think that the gullwing swinger is the holy grail of the Lobo part since I can't seem to find one for the last 3 or so years I've been searching?

I couldn't argue with you there. There is no geometry difference between the standard and the gullwing design, but the gullwing design sure do look sweet. The idea was for more material around the shock mount location to strengthen it, although I've never seen that be a weak area of these swingarms. More airbox clearance might have been another idea. They do pop up from time to time, though, probably always when you're not looking. Lol.

And yes, the swingarms he still makes will fit both the stock frame and Lobo frame.

[Higgy87TRX425]

Here's one pic..

[Higgy87TRX425]

And another

[Higgy87TRX425]

That last one was crap so heres another..

[motochamp250]

was that the bike on ebay k-dub? I missed that bike by like 20 minutes haha i was about to cry... thats an awesome machine.. i'd love to do a lobo for my rebuild but i have found squat! haha

[SilverLake250R]

I know, I kinda wish I pulled the trigger on it and taken a 20-hr road trip to get it. I was hovering over the BIN the first time it was on ebay for ~4500. Then Dallas LRPhardcore must have bought it and re-sold it.

[motochamp250]

oh well, hind sight is 20/20... i hope i can find a roll or walsh or laeger for my rebuild thats going down here in a few months.. been slowly getting parts here and there. we farm and are about to get busy so i was buying as much as i could until i get some free time.. i've found 2 laegers (one no link one stock link) 0 walsh (which i didn't expect to find many b/c they were so late most wanted 450's) and 0 roll's haha oh well, the search continues! haha

[twopump78]

going on my lobo in the next 20 min been waiting a long time for this... HeHe

[K-Dub]

As promised naked pictures of my 04.

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/nroll1.JPG
Notice the 450R spindles, hubs, rotors, and brakes.

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/nroll2.png
you can see my custom Precision Pro stabilizer mount and radiator louvers.

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin
/Roll%20Lobo/nroll3.JPG

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/nroll4.JPG

Yes this is the one Dallas bought. When I found it on ebay, it was in ebay classifieds not an auction. And am glad you guys didnt buy it when you had the chance. lol

[twopump78]

very very nice looking bike K-Dub

[twopump78]

quick question is anyone running a cr 250r ignition? if so how did you mount the coil mount? the esr isn't big enough to fit on my frame..

[K-Dub]

Thank you. It has very few hours on it. When I sent the shocks to Custom Axis for a rebuild/revalve they said the shocks might have 3 to 4 hrs time on them. The seals where dry rotted and leaking, but the body's,bushings, and pistons had no wear on them. Made me feel even better about buying it. Yours looks mighty nice as well. Just isnt nothing like a Roll LOBO. And as I found out yesterday, nothing handles like them either. I was riding my stock framed R that has Roll +3 arms and Axis shocks back to back with the Lobo and there was a big difference.

[norcalduner]

Here is my 04 Lobo baja chassis with the 18.5 swinger.

[norcalduner]

Another pic. I was told by previous owner that it is one if not the last frame Doug built.

[norcalduner]

Originally posted by twopump78
quick question is anyone running a cr 250r ignition? if so how did you mount the coil mount? the esr isn't big enough to fit on my frame..

I am running a cr250 ignition on mine and I just bolted the esr mount where the stock coil tab is. If you need a pic, let me know.

[twopump78]

Originally posted by norcalduner
I am running a cr250 ignition on mine and I just bolted the esr mount where the stock coil tab is. If you need a pic, let me know. a pic would be great thanks.

[danhung11]

Originally posted by K-Dub
http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/nroll1.JPG


Is that top tpin bolt rubbing your wheel? :eek:

[K-Dub]

Negative. It just misses, its less than an 1/8th of an inch. Just a bad angle in the picture. They are 4-1 wheels, I have a set of Douglas wheels with a rolled lip that do rub and I cant run them.

[dtowndiesel]

Originally posted by norcalduner
Here is my 04 Lobo baja chassis with the 18.5 swinger.



Yours has to be my favorite one so far! I really love the desert/baja look your's has. I'd also love to get my hands on your 18.5" swingarm, if you ever want to trade swingarms let me know :)

I see there's a naked Walsh frame in the background that wants to come out and play.

[norcalduner]

Originally posted by dtowndiesel
Yours has to be my favorite one so far! I really love the desert/baja look your's has. I'd also love to get my hands on your 18.5" swingarm, if you ever want to trade swingarms let me know :)

I see there's a naked Walsh frame in the background that wants to come out and play.

Dtown, I'm glad you finally chimed in bro ..... thanks for the compliment and you need to contribute some pics of your own Lobo just like everybody else haha.

And that Walsh will probably stay nude for awhile longer since I got too many money pits going on lol.

[norcalduner]

Originally posted by twopump78
a pic would be great thanks.

Here ya go bud

[danhung11]

Originally posted by norcalduner
Here ya go bud

You guys should look into Pumashine's CR coil mount, it's pretty slick. I'm sure someone here has one mounted up.

[Higgy87TRX425]

I have one of Pumashine's coil mounts! It looks awsome, fits perfect and you're able to mount it anywhere you want, at any angle because of the round clamp. All I can say its awsome I bought 2 and I'll probably get another for my 3rd build! I'll post pics tonight.

[DoonRider]

Here is a picture of a catalog page I ran across looking through a 1996 Duncan catalog today. Maybe someone will find this interesting. I see list price was $4495.

[8686]

Very interesting! Thanks for posting!

[dtowndiesel]

Originally posted by DoonRider
Here is a picture of a catalog page I ran across looking through a 1996 Duncan catalog today. Maybe someone will find this interesting. I see list price was $4495.

Any chance you can scan it? I'd love to see more detail. Thanks!

[danhung11]

Originally posted by dtowndiesel
Any chance you can scan it? I'd love to see more detail. Thanks!

X's 2!!! :D

[addictedtomud]

Cool! The 1996 Roll Chassis had a linkage rear end!! Every one I've ever seen has been no-link. Love the history lessons...

[matt250r21]

Thats old school Roll. Think he called the linkage setup ATAC and the front end was Z arc. I remember it used a steering box like a car.

[DoonRider]

Originally posted by dtowndiesel
Any chance you can scan it? I'd love to see more detail. Thanks!

Sure. I'll have to find a scanner I can use. I have a better pic of the whole page but the file was too big.

[norcalduner]

Hey dtown,

I'll give you $100 for that ROLL bar clamp :devil:
Will even paypal as gift :D

[dtowndiesel]

Originally posted by norcalduner
Dtown, I'm glad you finally chimed in bro ..... thanks for the compliment and you need to contribute some pics of your own Lobo just like everybody else haha.

And that Walsh will probably stay nude for awhile longer since I got too many money pits going on lol.


The only pictures I have of my Lobo right are the same ones that everybody has already seen. I would like to get some nice naked photos of the bike and post those.

I love the idea of a seperate thread just for comparing the different year Lobo's and sharing specs and info.

I'll work on getting some pictures up. I sent pics to Doug Roll last year and he said it was a '99. It has the same subframe as 8686's bike but it also has newer features more similar to norcalduner's and K-Dub's.

I also have a set of super old school non gullwing Lobo chassis a-arms. Identical to the ones on the chassis thats pictured in the Duncan catalog posted by Doonrider. I'll try get some pics of them too. They are old school.

Here's a pic of it last summer after I put on the "holy grail" gullwing swingarm. It's getting a new seat cover this spring and few other thing for 2011. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pic.

[dtowndiesel]

Originally posted by norcalduner
Hey dtown,

I'll give you $100 for that ROLL bar clamp :devil:
Will even paypal as gift :D


It'll take more than that!

I do have an extra one though......you know, just in case I add another Lobo to the stable someday.

[K-Dub]

Looking good Dtown. I agree also we need a thread to compare the different years. We all hijacked this one. Anyone else with a Lobo lets see it.

Went to the MX track yesterday for open practice, first time ever on a Lobo. I can not believe how the Lobo handles and why anyone not running a production class at the nats wouldnt be on a Lobo or atleast on a Leager or Walsh. Ive only been able to ride for 3 weeks, so my legs are jello today, but there wasnt a quad faster though the roller whoops on that track. I even past a few 450 bikes through them. The little 265 PC 2000 was pulling my big *** (335 pounds) around that track in nothing lower than 3rd with 15/38 gearing. It would pull with the 450s out of this one turn that was off camber into an up 400' up hill section. Them 450s had nothing on this engine, other than it took more work. Once Im in better shape and loose a little more weight the local boys on the 450s are in for a surprise.

[twopump78]

One thing that I like about the lobo is how balanced it is. Their isn't any tracks around here so I use mine as a dune bike I can be in 4th or 5th gear pinned and just lean back and it will pull the front end. My stock frame will not do that. And going over woops it just so smooth.

[becci4]

Originally posted by norcalduner
Becci4, K-dub, and Higgy ..... if you fellas don't mind, can you post up some pics of your Lobo's with and without the plastics.

Sorry for thread hijack twopump78 but I'm sure you understand haha :devil:

Hey been gone all weekend Il go home at lunch and snap some pics and get them posted up asap!:devil:

[motochamp250]

Man I want one of these chassis for my bike! Awesome r's guys... Def. Jealous here haha

Hunter

[DoonRider]

here's that scan
let me know if you want it emailed to you. I can't seem to get it legible on here.

[dtowndiesel]

Wow thats some wild stuff right there. Thanks Doonider for scanning that. It's hard for me to imagine that ATAC linkage being very functional!

[becci4]

Here is at least one pic. work has been crazy. Its off my phone when I get the chance I will get more up.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e387/Becci4/photo.jpg

[norcalduner]

becci4 ...... don't tease us dude, we wanna see more haha :cool:

[J.B.]

^This. :eek2:

[LAWLESS23]

I LOVE the old NACS R's. Did you build this one or did you buy it? I know a dude in Phoenix, AZ that had 2 fresh Lobo's and this one looks very simular. Nice!



Originally posted by K-Dub
As of now I dont have any picture's with the plastics off. Here are a few with the plastic from when I first bought mine. If it dont rain Ill take the plastics off later and get a few and post.

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/Roll9.5.JPG

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/Roll10.5.JPG

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/Roll14.JPG

http://jb.zippytech.com/~kevin/Roll%20Lobo/roll7.JPG

I read on the net somewhere that the Gullwing swingers that Roll still makes will fit this chassis. Is this correct? I have a list of questions for Doug Roll and been trying to get ahold of him for a month but havnt managed yet.

[K-Dub]

I bought it that way. I picked it up in CT, the guy I bought it from got it from Louisianan I believe. I have red Fullbores going on it.

[daveciak]

k dub that last guy that posted about your quad is correct i bought them from brandon haydon he lives in pheonix arizona he raced pro or pro am he told me he broke his back on the bike you have he healed up but it took a couple of years and by then the 4 stroke invasion had started he built them from ground up actually DFR racing built them for him i have all the receipts for your bike it was built in feb and march of 02 and basically sat for eight years untill i bought them i bought them at halftime of the superbowl 15 months ago id be happy to send you the receipts to your bike if you would like them also the original owner only weighd 155 lbs according to the suspension receipt the shocks needed to be rebuilt for me but i never rode that bike my wife did so it worked for her

[twopump78]

Originally posted by daveciak
k dub that last guy that posted about your quad is correct i bought them from brandon haydon he lives in pheonix arizona he raced pro or pro am he told me he broke his back on the bike you have he healed up but it took a couple of years and by then the 4 stroke invasion had started he built them from ground up actually DFR racing built them for him i have all the receipts for your bike it was built in feb and march of 02 and basically sat for eight years untill i bought them i bought them at halftime of the superbowl 15 months ago id be happy to send you the receipts to your bike if you would like them also the original owner only weighd 155 lbs according to the suspension receipt the shocks needed to be rebuilt for me but i never rode that bike my wife did so it worked for her one heck of a guy

[DoonRider]

List price was $8995

[8686]

Great couple posts there! Also, the complete chassis "started" at $8,995. It said things like chrome were extra. Interesting reading about the different steering ratio options. What a chassis.

[K-Dub]

Originally posted by daveciak
k dub that last guy that posted about your quad is correct i bought them from brandon haydon he lives in pheonix arizona he raced pro or pro am he told me he broke his back on the bike you have he healed up but it took a couple of years and by then the 4 stroke invasion had started he built them from ground up actually DFR racing built them for him i have all the receipts for your bike it was built in feb and march of 02 and basically sat for eight years untill i bought them i bought them at halftime of the superbowl 15 months ago id be happy to send you the receipts to your bike if you would like them also the original owner only weighd 155 lbs according to the suspension receipt the shocks needed to be rebuilt for me but i never rode that bike my wife did so it worked for her

Yes I would, thanks for posting. You have a pm.

[LAWLESS23]

Originally posted by daveciak
k dub that last guy that posted about your quad is correct i bought them from brandon haydon he lives in pheonix arizona he raced pro or pro am he told me he broke his back on the bike you have he healed up but it took a couple of years and by then the 4 stroke invasion had started he built them from ground up actually DFR racing built them for him i have all the receipts for your bike it was built in feb and march of 02 and basically sat for eight years untill i bought them i bought them at halftime of the superbowl 15 months ago id be happy to send you the receipts to your bike if you would like them also the original owner only weighd 155 lbs according to the suspension receipt the shocks needed to be rebuilt for me but i never rode that bike my wife did so it worked for her

Yep - I used to race with Brandon a lot. He and his dad were super good guys. Brandon raced a full Leager 330R and did break his back at MotoGrande in Casa Grande AZ (if I remember right). He was definately on the rise before that happened. He bought 2 Lobo's to build and compete in the Nationals and while he was waiting for all of the parts to show up, he broke his back. He healed up and rode some after but his mother was REALLY against it. If it hadn't of happened, I honestly think the kid would've been raging in the Pro class. He had some serious talent.

As far as this Lobo goes...it looks like he took that Nac's plastic off of his Leager and put it on this one. He was sponsored by Nac's back in the day. And yes, Rudy at DFR built both of his Lobo's. The last time I talked to him (several years ago), he still had one that he was going to keep as a dune/recreation bike.

Ahhh, the memories from back in the day when R's ruled...

[woodsracer144]

when i saw those chassis were pretty much 9 grand i about **** a golden egg! that is CRAZY!!!!

[slipperyjake]

thats a nice lobo, i used to have up until last year, when i sold it.

[8686]

http://i55.tinypic.com/14jx3ec.jpg

[dtowndiesel]

Looking Good 8686! I took some naked pics of my lobo this past weekend and hopefully in the next few minutes I'm going to post them up in another thread.

[twopump78]

anybody done anything new to their lobo?

[danhung11]

Thinking about converting mine to a CRF FI... :D

[troybilt]

I had nothing to do with it... :D

[Higgy87TRX425]

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae274/543215196/LoPuma%20Project%2017/LrdAttidudebuild002.jpg
Here's what I did today. I had to pull my motor so I could get it up to Pete to fix a small leak in the cases!! This is about the last thing that I wanted to do after it was running so great last weekend!! Well its nearing completion! I just wanna ride this beast! Thanks Higgy!

[danhung11]

Originally posted by troybilt
I had nothing to do with it... :D

That piece of info was the icing on the cake! Haha!

Higgy, what type of riding is your Lobo setup for?

[Higgy87TRX425]

Danno, its set-up for dune ridding, My only real main goal was to smoke any Bigbore TRX bike out there! IE.. Laegers, built stock frames, Arens , Houser, JP Chassis, Lonstars, Arens and basically any custom drag bikes out there!! I just have the dirt tires on there so I can tune the motor and ridding it up and down my street until the police come! lol! Dam neighbors! Thanks Higgy!

P.S. I should add that I'm probably more interested in whopping up on those fourstrokes then the 2 strokes and it doesn't matter what type of frame you have I just wanted a Fast TRX!!!

[twopump78]

Dan why would you want to ruine your lobo frame by putting a crf motor in it? :D

[danhung11]

Originally posted by twopump78
Dan why would you want to ruine your lobo frame by putting a crf motor in it? :D

That's funny right there. It wouldn't be a hack job, stuff that I ride is built right. :p

[Mony25]

Originally posted by danhung11
That's funny right there. It wouldn't be a hack job, stuff that I ride is built right. :p

Im guessing you have already scoped this out but what i have seen there is a lot of cutting and modding to do this. Last one i seen even cut the bottom rails and lowered them to get it to fit.

[troybilt]

Doesn't look hacked to me... :D

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/RANK4.jpg

[fastrnrik]

I had always heard Roll built a few Lobo's specifically to be hybrids. Don't know if they were YZ or CRF or what. I just remember hearing about them and how rare they were.

[twopump78]

I like this Motor. :D

[twopump78]

Originally posted by Higgy87TRX425
http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae274/543215196/LoPuma%20Project%2017/LrdAttidudebuild002.jpg
Here's what I did today. I had to pull my motor so I could get it up to Pete to fix a small leak in the cases!! This is about the last thing that I wanted to do after it was running so great last weekend!! Well its nearing completion! I just wanna ride this beast! Thanks Higgy!

What swing arm is that on your bike now?

[Mony25]

Originally posted by troybilt
Doesn't look hacked to me... :D

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/RANK4.jpg

Nope props there it does look good except it is a 4 stroke lol. What year is that, the bottom frame rail appears to be round or is that where the work was done.

[troybilt]

This isn't a hack job, one off Roll Lobo Hybrid frame, only one that exists from what I was told.

[pinitatv]

It can be done without hacking things up....

Its actually a pretty clean conversion.

Sorry Troy, this is what's delaying some of your parts but its almost done!!:D

[pinitatv]

The other side.

This was a TT chassis so a few things are a little different than the MXers I've seen pics of.

[troybilt]

No worries Jody, I sent off the Saber motor to get setup for MX anyway...

..and nothing you build is hacked up I'd put your stuff up there with Doug Roll himself... I've seen your skills!!

[Mony25]

not calling these hacks they both look geat just thought i would say what i had heard.

[danhung11]

Originally posted by pinitatv
It can be done without hacking things up....

Its actually a pretty clean conversion.

Sorry Troy, this is what's delaying some of your parts but its almost done!!:D

Wanna take on another one? :D No hurries here. :p

I talked to RD today, but Doug wasn't there. I spoke to Paige and she said their busy with Elka shocks and their a-arm production.

[Higgy87TRX425]

I diggin the Fab skills looks like some awsome work, but I'm not to into the 4 stroke motor!! lol! Each to there own! Thanks Higgy

[pinitatv]

Troy

Thanks for the compliments but I'm not sure about being mentioned in the same sentence with Doug R. I try hard, but ROLL, Walsh, and Laeger are professionals!!

Dan

When I get this one done I'll get you some detailed pics so you can see what you would be in for. I know if I had another Roll frame laying around I'd do another one of these conversions on it. Maybe even a FI CRF:D :D

Higgy

2 stroke or 4 those stickers are going to look sweet on this one.

What do you think of this approach?

[Higgy87TRX425]

PINIT: I think that approachlooks sweet!!!! I'm just looking into getting a bunch of new Roll Stickers in. Alot of chrome new and old school Roll Design stickers. I'm getting mainly chrome, but also some white and black "OLD SKOOL" stickers as well. I'll also be interested in getting some Older Laeger Chrome stickers too. So I'm open to new ideas. However I'll have to put in at least orders of 25 in each style at a time. If you guys have ideas of things you want? Let me know and I'll always hook up great prices for the guys on there that help one another out because thats what its all about! I'm not in it to make a killing I just wanna keep this memoribilia around for future generations to have. So if you have "OLD SKOOL" Laeger, Jp Or any other stickers around that are hard to find shoot them my way even if its just a scan of the sticker and my guy can work magic just like he's done with these current Roll Stickers. keep them flowing! Thanks Higgy!

[Jesse1980]

Originally posted by twopump78
I like this Motor. :D

That motor looks ok but don't look as good as the CT 340

[quadfmx]

Whats the deal with the gull wing swing arm, what years was it produced? was it only produced when specifically asked for, or was it made for a certain racer only, or was it made for a certain type of riding mx or xc for example?

Are they called gull-wing swing-arms or is that just a nick name ?

what is the going price for one?
are they made for just the lobo-chassis or any roll chassis?

[quadfmx]

Whats the deal with the gull wing swing arm, what years was it produced? was it only produced when specifically asked for, or was it made for a certain racer only, or was it made for a certain type of riding mx or xc for example?

Are they called gull-wing swing-arms or is that just a nick name ?

what is the going price for one?
are they made for just the lobo-chassis or any roll chassis?