Needle Identify

[PLF]

I baught 2 used 450r carbs, actually I baught one from a member here (wich was supposed to be A1) and there where so much parts missing I had to buy another one for parts.

I opened both and the 2 had different needles inside and I have no idea wich one is what ? I suppose the one with less clips is stock but I really have no idea.. maybe hrc ?? hmf ??

Here are some pics of them

Thank you

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x321/PLF69/IMG-20110228-00030.jpg

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x321/PLF69/IMG-20110228-00032.jpg

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x321/PLF69/IMG-20110228-00033.jpg

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x321/PLF69/IMG-20110228-00031.jpg

[PLF]

Update: The carb with the stock looking needle had a 52 pilot and the other one had no pilot...

still have not identified longer needle..

[DnB_racing]

take a magnifying glass and look real good they are marked........however if you cant make out the marking then the real only way is to measure them!! on page 40 of sudco catalog online there is a needle chart with measurements listed...but its not going to be that easy to get it accurate especially the angle