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Chanman420q
02-15-2003, 08:20 AM
Which After market carb would show the greatest overall improvement and not have all that many draw backs. And whats the advantge of a 39 over a 38 since its only 1mm

Dune Surfer
02-15-2003, 09:11 AM
FCR is the best, lectron is the cheapest, Edelbrock is in the middle. All are better than stock.

Chanman420q
02-15-2003, 09:13 AM
but which of those 3 would give the best overall performance

Extremeracer167
02-15-2003, 09:17 AM
Well the Lectron will give u the most top end power. But has horrible low end, and is a very high maintenance carb. The FCR is probably all around better. It can be kinda tricky to get it jetted in at first. But once it is, its a excellant carb. The edelbrock doesnt really do much for power. It gives it better thorttle response, but i didnt reall ynotice much in power gains when i bolted one up on mine. I would go with the FCR, its expensive, but i feel its a better all around carb then the others.

Chanman420q
02-15-2003, 09:41 AM
ok so FCR it is, now what about a 38 or a 39... obviously a 39 is gunna give u more power, but is it worth the extra money

honda250xrider
02-15-2003, 10:08 AM
Why does everone say a lectron carb is high maintence? Its not! You have to make a few adjustments to make it work right like tilting the carb a little bit, and you dont have to clean the slide every day the way everyone talks i havnt cleaned it for 2 months now and still is fine! For everyone that keeps saying lectron is horrible and has horrible low end well i dont think you have ever even ridden a quad with a lectron carb on it. But yes the lectron doesnt give alot more if any more hp than stock at low end.

RiPPiNiTuP7
02-15-2003, 10:39 AM
I would go with the FCR39...I heard nothing but good things about it. I know for a fact when I go to buy a carb thats the one I'm getting.

Extremeracer167
02-15-2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by honda250xrider
Why does everone say a lectron carb is high maintence? Its not! You have to make a few adjustments to make it work right like tilting the carb a little bit, and you dont have to clean the slide every day the way everyone talks i havnt cleaned it for 2 months now and still is fine! For everyone that keeps saying lectron is horrible and has horrible low end well i dont think you have ever even ridden a quad with a lectron carb on it. But yes the lectron doesnt give alot more if any more hp than stock at low end.

Yeah your right ive never ridden a quad with a LECTRON carb:rolleyes: I bet u have never ridden a quad with anyother kind of carb except stock and your lectron. ANd yes, they are a pain in the @$$ to get onto the quad, thanks for reminding me. They do not fit straight up and down (like a carb is supposed to) u ahve to tilt them becuase the cable hits the tank on a EX. SO basically what u are saying is this. He should buy a carb, that is a PAIN to install, u DO have to keep the slide VERY VERY clean, doesnt have an acc. pump, and only gains power in the top of the power range?? Wow sounds like a great carb:rolleyes:

honda250xrider
02-15-2003, 12:26 PM
Yeah your right ive never ridden a quad with a LECTRON carb I bet u have never ridden a quad with anyother kind of carb except stock and your lectron. ANd yes, they are a pain in the @$$ to get onto the quad, thanks for reminding me. They do not fit straight up and down (like a carb is supposed to) u ahve to tilt them becuase the cable hits the tank on a EX. SO basically what u are saying is this. He should buy a carb, that is a PAIN to install, u DO have to keep the slide VERY VERY clean, doesnt have an acc. pump, and only gains power in the top of the power range?? Wow sounds like a great carb

please tell me how hard it is to tilt a carb? :ermm:

Extremeracer167
02-15-2003, 12:31 PM
i didnt say it was hard. But the carb is a pain to install. On a EX, the only way to get it to fit right is by making spacers for your gas tank similar to what ChadEXer did. Believe me ive been through the runaround with ALOT of aftermarket products. And the Lectron isnt high on the list.

Sparks425Ex
02-15-2003, 12:31 PM
The FCR is the only way to go. Great Gains, easy to install and dissassemble. Most guys are running FCR and i think they do it for reason(Cause they Are the best)

Extremeracer167
02-15-2003, 12:32 PM
^ what he said

honda250xrider
02-15-2003, 12:35 PM
the only problem i have ever had with my lectron is that the cable snaped because I didnt tilt the carb so the gas tank wouldnt hit it and the cable kinked and snaped. I think the lectron is very easy to jet imo, and you save alot of money by buying the lectron.

Chanman420q
02-15-2003, 12:39 PM
which ones have the accelerator pump and how does it help you

Extremeracer167
02-15-2003, 12:56 PM
The Acc. Pump shoots fuel into the engine, because a 4-stroke doesnt have as strong of a Vaccum effect that a 2 stroke has to pull fuel in as fast. So an acc. pump helps get fuel into the engine at lower RPMs. The FCR and Edelbrock both have one, the Lectron doesnt.

Chanman420q
02-15-2003, 12:58 PM
so what are the pros of the Edelbrok and FCR?

and cons... my bad

trx400ex
02-15-2003, 02:59 PM
edel is cheaper

stupid driver
02-15-2003, 03:02 PM
pros of the elderbrock

1.it looks trick ( billet aluminum)
2.easy to jet( no jets, kinda like a dial-a-jet)

cons of elderbrock

1.must grind throttle housing to fit thumb throttle on
2. got to cut part of snorkel out ( i think)

pros of fcr

1. EXPLOSIVE POWER
2. easy to install
3. able to run thumb throttle

cons of fcr

1. hard to jet
thats about it

Chanman420q
02-15-2003, 03:54 PM
WHat do u mean hard to jet?

stupid driver
02-16-2003, 09:37 AM
its a very tricky carb to jet in. there is a stumble in the low end that you have to be dead on to get rid of it( once ya do u'll be lovin life) :p

Chanman420q
02-16-2003, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by stupid driver
its a very tricky carb to jet in. there is a stumble in the low end that you have to be dead on to get rid of it( once ya do u'll be lovin life) :p

is this something a dealer could take care of

Bean
02-16-2003, 12:02 PM
possibly, but get the hacksaw out and chop off your arm so you can pay for it

Chanman420q
02-16-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Bean
possibly, but get the hacksaw out and chop off your arm so you can pay for it

how much could it possibly be

stupid driver
02-16-2003, 04:26 PM
how much could it possibly be

put it this way, ive seen a dealor that charges 50$ a HALF HOUR. jettin it in perfectly will take a dealor longer too, because, well would you work as fast as you could when your gonna make that much?

jettin in the fcr was a lot easier than i thought it would be. when ya order it, tell the person your talking to your settup. if they hav enough experience, they should get the jetting down to the main jet. then, all you have to worry about is the fuel screw and needle position.

hope this helped

PHIL_B54
02-16-2003, 10:11 PM
i put my quicksilver on a week ago and im almost worried on how easy it was to get set grinding the housing took about as long

it fired right off, but wouldnt idle so we gave it 2 clicks, it idled better but not right yet so 2 more clicks, and it idled fine i took it for a ride and so did a friend he came back with a grin i got the quote in my sig from him we gave it 2 more clicks to be on the rich side , but it really was to dark and snowing so i am still waiting on doing the plug run, ive have spoke to edelbrock a couple times and the tech guy has been great, he's sending me a new accel pump guide because mine has to much play, i got the carb used and they still support the product, i was impressed
i have nothing to compare it to but stock but so far i would recomend one to anyone

Big - D Racing
02-16-2003, 10:52 PM
Don't richen the mixture to make the edelbrock idle there is a seperate idle screw up by the part which the throttle cable attaches. I have the edlbrock 440 carb and it tears the fcr 39 carb apart. The fcr 39 beats the standard edelbrock, but not the 440 version. It is hands down the best carb. I have ran all 3 carbs now the standard edelbrock, the fcr 39, and the 440ex edelbrock Doug Eichner series.

PHIL_B54
02-16-2003, 11:09 PM
sorry i need to clarify, it wouldnt idle smoothly, it would vary up and down real rough, and by reading the manual it says rough idle, give i a couple of clicks, yes i know the idle spped is adjusted there, thats the reason theyre sending me ther new part the accel pump rod has some play and it wont always fall back to idle if you ease off of it real slow it will stick 1200-1800 rpm or so, but if you goose it hard it will fall to the right spot, i unhooked the accel pump and it worked fine, so we figure its binding, im going to clean it up real good and install the new guide and i hope ill be ready to rip

Big - D Racing
02-16-2003, 11:18 PM
good luck, it's a great carb. That's the dissadvantages of buying it used, but you probably got it for a great price, so in the end it will all be worth it.

PHIL_B54
02-16-2003, 11:29 PM
i just pm'ed you about it and yes $225 shipped i do believe then i had to get the 15 e needle thats currently in it(came with the 17) and the adjustment tool so in all just shy of $260

ChadEXer
02-17-2003, 11:59 AM
I think everyone knows how I feel about the carb situation! I have a Lectron carb and wouldnt trade it for anything! I dont think that just because it takes a little more to get it installed that that makes it no count! It costs half the price of the others and I dont mind doing a little wreching anyways, especially if it saves me that much money!! Just like Extreme said about the FCR, it can be a little tricky to get it jetted but once it is its a great carb,,,well I agree but same goes with the Lectron, it can be a little tricky to get installed but once it is, its a great carb! Very easy to adjust and the power is definately there,,not to mention half the price of the others!! I have had to clean my slide once because it was getting a little sticky, but hey a flathead and 3 screws is pretty easy to deal with!!

Big - D Racing
02-17-2003, 01:55 PM
I agree, if you don't have the money to buy the FCR or the EDEl. get a Lectron it's a great carb that puts a good amount of top end power, it's just a little hard to get dialed in. I would of got one if I idn't get a great deal on my edelbrock.

Chanman420q
02-17-2003, 03:18 PM
hey chad can we see ur EX?

ChadEXer
02-18-2003, 07:43 AM
I will have some good pics in a few days!

Bunkerking217
02-18-2003, 07:44 AM
i didnt read the whole post, but heres my 2 cents.....

i had a 440 kit on my bike and had the 40mm edelbrock carb. i had to have twist throttle and it sucked. i put teh stock carb back on and it ran sweet. i think it was better over all(the stock one)

Big - D Racing
02-18-2003, 11:21 AM
your problem is a 40mm is to big for your engine, edelbrock and Duncan Racing run the 38mm on the 440's and a 36mm on a stock 400. A 40 will be more like for a 465 stroker or a 500 stroker.

JustRace
02-18-2003, 11:57 AM
I have the twist throttle qwicksilver carb and love it. The throttle response blows the stock one away big time. You better share those drugs with me if you think the stock carb is better all around because that has to be some good ****.

Bunkerking217
02-18-2003, 04:01 PM
but i have a lot of stuff done to my quad for gas/air flow and i jsut didnt understand why it wasnt as fast as the stock one.

but im not arguing bc the 38 or 39 might have been even faster. im just saying for mine, the 40 wasnt

Chanman420q
02-18-2003, 05:13 PM
What size carb should you run with like a 440 or a 426 kit? 39 or 38 like that post above

BaD_250ex
02-18-2003, 06:30 PM
HOW MUCH DO THE FCR Carbs cost and would it help a 250ex out alot or a little? send me a private message

Steve-o 400EX
02-18-2003, 06:45 PM
They are between 400 and 500 bucks. A 39fcr is way too big for a 250 though.

Big - D Racing
02-18-2003, 08:50 PM
Put a fcr on a 250x and you will be going really slow with a lot of sputtering. It is big of a carb for that bike. If your looking for a better carb look into a stock 300ex carb or something smaller, yet bigger than yours for that.

BaD_250ex
02-19-2003, 06:07 AM
Im just starting to fix my 250ex up and Im not a mechanic, so all your addvice and tips help out alot! Any other addvice or product tips?



:huh

Steve-o 400EX
02-19-2003, 07:20 AM
Do what Big D Racing said to do, look for a stock 300ex carb or something around that size.

BaD_250ex
02-19-2003, 08:06 AM
Do you know of anyone who make the clutch kits for the honda 250ex? Would it help speed or anything?:huh

Chanman420q
02-19-2003, 02:56 PM
clutch kits are for automatic quads

Steve-o 400EX
02-19-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by BaD_250ex
Do you know of anyone who make the clutch kits for the honda 250ex? Would it help speed or anything?:huh

It will only help if it is slipping but i dont think they make a performance one for a 250ex. 400's get em usually when they are bored out to handle the extra power that they have.

BaD_250ex
02-19-2003, 05:16 PM
So should I just sell my 250 and buy a 400? It sounds to me that you cannot make the 250ex's fast, my trail tech speedometer said top speed is 62.5mph.:huh

honda250xrider
02-19-2003, 05:59 PM
wow your 250ex is faster than my 250x :eek:

Steve-o 400EX
02-19-2003, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by BaD_250ex
So should I just sell my 250 and buy a 400? It sounds to me that you cannot make the 250ex's fast, my trail tech speedometer said top speed is 62.5mph.:huh

I'm not saying that, but most of the threads you see on here are about 400's, its a known fact that there is so much more that you can do with a 400ex, so things like big bores, clutches and carbs are mainly talked about for 400ex's because not many people are looking to beef up a 250.

Chanman420q
02-22-2003, 04:00 PM
in a post before they said the lecton didnt deal with jets and had shnitty bottom end, well is the bottom end worste than stock and could a hotcams stage 1 help it out?