aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh crf 450quad heere no lie..

[AtvRider21]

heres the site http://www.hondashop.com.au/newsletter/newsletter.htm?Honda=78a7b7ecf98744b2a0ad66586a1e8 ced i also heard they sent america one model yaaaaaaaay i want it no pics or specs tho dam cant wait peace


or look here!

it says coming soon thats all. tell me when its for sale

[UglyMotha™]

Originally posted by fourzerozero
it says coming soon thats all. tell me when its for sale

well it did say to be released in 2003 so.... soon would be somtime this year probably in the fall

[sly400ex]

AWESOME!!!!:D

[Str8Wicked]

DOn't get you hopes up. it's probably a miss print...

[goochy]

Sweet I want it!!!!!!!!!!!

[forum]

bull. and even if it is true. It won't be much better then the 400ex. All the companies want to do is beat out the other guy just barely. so they can sell more but spend less R&D. If it does use a crf engine it will be soo downtuned its not funny. If honda wanted to please there customers the 250r would have never been put to pasture. they could care less about us. they just want money

[goochy]

air cooled vs water cooled?????? the 450 will have more power, and it will be easy to pump up the engine. Plus they have been working on a ALL NEW FRAME. I would prefer, a 650 cc , but the 450 cc will work.

[YZROOSTINYA]

what the **** do you need 650cc for. you weigh 300lbs?

jesus the the crf puts out 50hp

[forum]

what makes this more believable then all the other crap you read?? it's far from an official honda website. the site looks profesional but that don't mean crap

[goochy]

The dirt bike puts out 50 hp, not the quad. Thats right there is no new Honda quad. If they make the quad have 50 hp, that will be great. If not I want a big bore engine, so I can do some motor work and it will be bad. I do not care about the 450 cc limit for racing.

[oynot400]

I am not going to get excited until I see something on www.honda.com :rolleyes: It is not there yet.

[tants]

Originally posted by fourzerozero
it says coming soon thats all. tell me when its for sale

yeah me to!



"These are just a few of the exciting new models coming soon"

(quote from the text)

[OutlawEX]

hopefully this dont take as long as the Terminator movie coming:rolleyes:

[twisted threads]

Originally posted by sly400ex
AWESOME!!!!:D
Man I hope it's true about the new Honda!! I just don't see why honda will just site back and let every one pass them by, but they did it once with the 250r :confused:

[Evan]

Im gonna be mad if them Austrailians get that 450 before we do.:grr

[ill_lil_romey]

I won't believe that untill I see the quad in ATVsport or dirtwheels and at American Honda dealerships!

[ATVer14]

I bet it's just a misprint. They probably meant to say a TRX450R Racing 2-Wheeler. It could be true, but more than likely it's not.

it had better accept my new pep shocks or i will be pissed off.:grr

[Ralph]

maybe we will see it at the indy show:blah

[ill_lil_romey]

I don't think its a misprint. I mean the dirt bike line is always either Cr or XR. So TRX450R racing 4-wheeler sounds pretty precise and to the point. It's just that my leg has been pulled so many times on this issue that seeing is believing. Sort of like the boy who cried wolf.

[goochy]

:D Just got e mail back from that Honda site in Australia, he is a for real honda site, and they said no more info yet. but IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!! I hope so, I told them to please e mail me as soon as they get more info. I also told him I was ready to buy and will pay shipping. We will see......... This looks like good news, so far...........

[ridesa02400EX]

damn i dont want the new honda to come out i dont have the money for one and all the other quads are more powerful than mine as it is

[Evan]

I am going to make a prediction. We will see how close it is.
The motor is going to be a 450 but very different from the bike motor and still have lots of torque and hp. The frame will be a cross between a 400 and a 250R. It will have some sort of longtravel suspension. It will be a 2004 model so it should be released sometime this year, most likely they will show it this spring and it be out by fall.

[YZROOSTINYA]

I just hate this big displacement B.S.

everyone want 9 cabillion cc's, whatever happened to technology?

the quad may not put out as much peak hp as the bike(i think the bike is more around 55-60 actually, at the crank that is)

but I can pretty much gaurantee that the bike will put out a very useable powerspread that will be far greater than a 400ex.

the water cooling alone will make things ALOT better.

look at the raptor, and look at the yzf450

the yxf puts out twice the hp and torque as the quad

plus 210cc's is just extra weight

i'll take a 450 thanks

too each there own, JMO

[Sick0]

Well I think I would rather have a good detuned crf motor thats may not make the power you want than have a detuned balless out of date air cool motor. So even if they detune the 450f aleast you know theres a lot poteinal.(spe) Don't flame about the 400 motor.

[roostu]

Originally posted by YZROOSTINYA
I just hate this big displacement B.S.

everyone want 9 cabillion cc's, whatever happened to technology?

the quad may not put out as much peak hp as the bike(i think the bike is more around 55-60 actually, at the crank that is)

but I can pretty much gaurantee that the bike will put out a very useable powerspread that will be far greater than a 400ex.

the water cooling alone will make things ALOT better.

look at the raptor, and look at the yzf450

the yxf puts out twice the hp and torque as the quad

plus 210cc's is just extra weight

i'll take a 450 thanks

too each there own, JMO

Yep i agree.

~Roost-U

If it is a 450cc it will be a VERY detuned 450 from what comes on the bikes. You guys hopin for this off the shelf high end race quad are pissin in the wind. Remember...racing is only about 2% of ATV sales if that..their lookin to make money not makin the 2000 racers nationwide happy..;)

[oynot400]

Originally posted by Rico
If it is a 450cc it will be a VERY detuned 450 from what comes on the bikes. You guys hopin for this off the shelf high end race quad are pissin in the wind. Remember...racing is only about 2% of ATV sales if that..their lookin to make money not makin the 2000 racers nationwide happy..;)
You are right Rico. You only see a small handful of quads on the track, compaired to total sales. The rest are on the trail or back woods somewhere. Of all the people I ride with only about 5 or 6 race (on a track anyway).

[nuttynewt]

Originally posted by Rico
If it is a 450cc it will be a VERY detuned 450 from what comes on the bikes. You guys hopin for this off the shelf high end race quad are pissin in the wind. Remember...racing is only about 2% of ATV sales if that..their lookin to make money not makin the 2000 racers nationwide happy..;)

True, so true... but, if you think about it, every time you go buy aftermarket parts to upgrade your factory stuff, Honda isn't getting any of that $$$. If they can sell you premium suspension, tires, etc. themselves, and make a bigger profit margin for doing it, I think they will go for it. Besides, there are a lot of people out there that don't race that still wants a fast quad. Heck, look at all the people that buy Craptors. They ain't worth a <bleep> at the track. Myself, I don't care one way or the other. I will still ride my R whether they come out with some hyped-up 45-50 hp quad or not. It's all in what you like and are comfortable with.

[YZROOSTINYA]

will it be detuned ...yes. who cares. how are they gonna detune it?

milder cam and low compression. big woop, easy mod.

also there gonna have to make more powerful than a 400ex so your at least at 30 hp. it is gonna have to have better suspension and POSSIBLY reverse. i could care less about it but some like it.

there gonna do what they did to the xr400 - 400ex

no one is gonna buy the quad if are not any improvements

why spend 2k more for no upgrade from a 400ex

i know what it will really be. a xr400 motor with a 450 bore:rolleyes:

[YZROOSTINYA]

hahaha your prob right

[Evan]

haha if you guys only knew.... Its all right there in the mags. Its based on a crf450 engine, but different at the same time ie oil cooler, electric start. It has long travel suspension up front like a predator. The frame is very much simliar to the 250r/400. Lets put it this way, its everything you can imagine, and once again honda will be out on top.

[brian400ex]

Why do they make 2 wheelers with 50 - 60 hp, and when they go to put them i a quad they lower the horsepower? It makes no sense. The 2 wheeler is alot light and doesn't need as much hp. I don't get it.

Brian

[AtvRider21]

how much power, and speed do yall think it will have and will it beat al the other quads.. i want it to beee craaazy lol peace

[Predator36]

Originally posted by Lrd Mx400ex
maybe we will see it at the indy show:blah

It is not in the Honda booth at the dealer show as of 7:00 pm thursday.

[gncc400exxx]

I sent an email to the address on that page.
This is what i got back.

Hi Robert, thank you for your email unfortunately at this point in time we
do not have any information on it. We have been informed that the 450 will
be available towards the end of this year in Australia.

Regards

Sean

[gncc400exxx]

sorry didn't see the previous post about the email

[racrgirl]

Ok I must add my fuel to the fire. Obviously Honda is only gonna leak out a little bit of information at a time. This builds the anticipation and they can charge a higher price. I was talking with a salesman at Troy Racing in Dayton and he said the quad is built and ready to go, but they are waiting to release it so they can get rid of more 400EX's. He told me right now he can't give away the Honda's since the Z400 came out. HE said it will be 450cc, liquid cooled and aluminum framed. He didn't say anything about reverse though. I think with it being geared toward race, it probably won't have reverse. If this is true, I think that the 400EX should be modified with reverse and then get rid of the 300.

[phatswinn]

i agree with ya 100% on that racrgirl exept the 300ex part, they still need compition with the blaster and mojave, and a low priced starter quad thats reliable and easy to ride for a beginnner

[Ralph]

ifd i wanna ride with a blaster id get a 250ex, i liked mine more than my friends piped 300 and he wouldnt eaven beat me in drag races,,, he sucked at riding though...lol

[DirtDiggler]

I think they could give the 250ex a little more hp, sport style rear tires and a little better suspension which they could do using 300ex fronts and get rid of the the 300. Out of the 3 dealers around here that I know well they can't remember the last 300 they sold. Doesn't the 250ex make something like 11.9 hp and the 300 makes 13.1 hp or something? They could bridge that gap and sell an easier to ride quad. A 300ex might have more potential but to build one you could have just bought a 400ex for the $900 difference in msrp. I think they should upgrade the 250ex to be better than the new Suzuki 250 and get rid of the 300. I don't know what they'll do with a 400ex and a 450ex though. Unless they could use a different 400cc motor with liquid cooling that puts out a couple more hp than the Z/KFX and improve the suspension a little. The other thing they could do is leave the 400ex alone and drop the price $500 - $700.

Oh well my .02 (like I know anything.......lol), Diggler

[deathman53]

I don't think honda is gonna release a trx450f. Its too much of a niche bike, racers and high performace riders will only buy it, and if they do, its gonna so detuned its not gonna be funny. When the xr400 motor was put in the 400ex, they detuned the motor. Also isn't a crf motor a kick start, I thought the days of kick start quads was over. You just have to look at the facts: wamaha's warrior is one of the top selling quads along with the 400ex. Doesn't that say something, for the 30-40% that what a wild horsepower quad, honda isn't gonna risk making something with wild horsepower. another example canondale- wild horsepower not enough sold for them to turn a profit. If honda really wanted to please the racers they would make a powervavled 250r. It wouldn't be too hard either just use a cr250 motor and add a counterbalancer.

[JDsBusa]

Well, the xr400 is kick start, and they made the 400ex electric..
dont think they have the technology to make an electric start 450?
Justin

Funny thread :) :blah

Your gonna be getting a detuned crf450 engine and liking it!! :)

Detuned= lower comp, full skirt piston, smaller cam, lower rev limit etc.

My source is still tight lipped about the frame and suspension but from his expressions I am guessing aluminium and with less weight and more travel than the 400ex.

Add it all up and its everything I would have wanted for my 400ex and fixes most of the shortcomings of the ex design.

Just a matter of time, yes the 400ex's have to sell off first.

[250x#93]

What ever happens I think I'll stick with my 250x till I sell it to get a celica.

[stocktires]

Im LOVING the name! the 450R :p

R = racing (kinda sorta)

Honda may FINALLY be coming around to realeasing IT within a year.

[AtvRider21]

guys if it does come out how will the power and performance compare to like cannondales, banshees, raptors, and z's in like wooods, track, and drag races thanks peace

[400EXrider#91]

stocktires i love that name too

i would pay the price for one no matter how much it was it could be the baddest quad out. it could aslo be just as legenddary as the trx250r!

i just think it would be bad as sh*t

[DirtDiggler]

imho,
It must be faster than the Z/KFX. If it has more hp than those quads and is lighter it'll be able to compete with bigger and heavier quads in stock form. If this motor has a lot of potential and the frame is strong and the quad has Honda's legendary reliability as well it wont matter if it is the fastest stock quad on the planet. I really hope it has a strong aluminum frame and not an aluminum frame that's a little lighter and a little stronger than the 400ex frame. I think the Cannondales have the best stock frame in the business and I'm sure Honda could make one better as well as cheaper.

my .02, Diggler