kickstart conversion

[Phills450r]

Anyone familiar with these? How complicated and how long of a job is this? Also where would be the best place to purchase this from?

Do a search dude. There are so many threads about this. But if you dont wana do one i belive JH racing sells the complete kit for the cheapest and he assembles the gears for you. And if you are able to do your own motor work it doesnt take long at all.

[DnB_racing]

the hardest part of the whole thing is finding the plastic insert for kicker on rear plastics, you almost have to get new rear fender for it to look factory!

[Phills450r]

Originally posted by Roostar 450
Do a search dude. There are so many threads about this. But if you dont wana do one i belive JH racing sells the complete kit for the cheapest and he assembles the gears for you. And if you are able to do your own motor work it doesnt take long at all.

I did search.. couldn't come up with anything although im sure there are some threads about it. Thanks for the input. I miss my kicker

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by Phills450r
I did search.. couldn't come up with anything although im sure there are some threads about it. Thanks for the input. I miss my kicker did you look here? http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=418017

[BUBBA Livesay]

I found this hope it helps...


Below is a parts list breakdown to convert the 06-08 TRX450ER to a KICKER...

1. 2 Pinion (28T) 28211-HP1-670 1
3 Plate, Kick Stopper 28215-HP1-670 1
4 Ratchet 28221-HP1-670 1
5 Spring 28223-HP1-670 1
6 Gear (31T) 28231-HP1-670 1
7 Collar 28232-HP1-840 1
8 Plate 28233-HP1-840 1
10 Spindle 28251-HP1-840 1
11 Spring 28261-HP1-840 1
12 Collar 28282-HP1-840 1
13 Bolt, Flange (6x14) 90004-GHB-620 1
14 Washer (14mm) 90451-PC9-000 1
15 Washer B (22mm) 90455-ML7-000 1
16 Washer (27x20x1) 90554-728-940 2
17 Bearing (22x29x10) 91007-HP1-671 1
18 Bearing, Needle 91105-KN7-671 1
19 Bolt, Hex (6x16) 93301-06016-0A 2
20 Circlip (19mm) 94510-19000 1
22 Gear (25T/13T) 28240-HP1-840 1
23 Arm, Kick Starter 28300-HP1-840 1
19 Bolt, Kick Joint 28306-MEN-670 1
seal 91204-KF0-003 1
gasket 11394-HP1-600 1



During kicking, the CDI requires a higher level of power than the stator can output to enable the CDI's operation- where there is no battery on the frame on the KICKER setup to continuously 'power' the CDI ....

To supply electrical power to the CDI on the KICKER setup during startup, a Condenser is used to store energy- similiar to a battery ability to store energy. The Condensers ability to store energy is extremely short lived compared to a battery. During engine opration, the Condenser will store the charge from the Regulator/Rectifier which is mounted on the rear subframe where the batteries location would be on the electric start version... The location of the Condenser is under the hood... The kick start Condencer costs about $25 from service honda...

You can either buy a new KICK start electric wiring harness, or you can splice the Condencer into the wiring, the later being the cheaper modification...

NOTE:These instructions are for removing electric start all together.... If you wont both ignore these instructions and ya just need parts
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[BUBBA Livesay]

Look on ebay for someone parting out a motor. I just bought a whole transmission our of a 2004 450r with all the kickstart and idler gears, bolts,springs, everything needed for the kicker install on my 06 er for $50.
The only other thing i will have to buy is the kickstart lever and the right cover gasket and a seal for the kickstart shaft where it comes through the cover.

There is another one on ebay for $25 right now but it doesnt come with all the bolts and stuff but all gears are there! Theyre the expensive part!!

:D

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by BUBBA Livesay
Look on ebay for someone parting out a motor. I just bought a whole transmission our of a 2004 450r with all the kickstart and idler gears, bolts,springs, everything needed for the kicker install on my 06 er for $50.
The only other thing i will have to buy is the kickstart lever and the right cover gasket and a seal for the kickstart shaft where it comes through the cover.

There is another one on ebay for $25 right now but it doesnt come with all the bolts and stuff but all gears are there! Theyre the expensive part!!

:D NO!!!! you still need the spindle, return spring, 2 collars, you also need to reverse the gear on the 2 gear idle gear, also bearings... read page 2 or 3 on frequent asked questions look for scros response about which gears are different there is about 5 or 6 parts still needed about another 130 bucks

[adamped415]

so if i buy the kit from jh all i need is the condensor, and a r wire harness for the easiest install?( I already have kicker plastics)

[BUBBA Livesay]

The gears i got off of ebay came with all of that!! The other one for $25 i didnt look at to close to see if it did or not, just trying to help someone save a lil $$$

[DnB_racing]

if your not running the lights then you wont need a condenser, there are many people running without changing the harness and condenser!!! I like having the kick and still have the easy button, so i still have the battery, actually i really have 2 batteries for 24v start and a kick backup,

[adamped415]

im not running lights at all, but i just replaced the starter clutch and all that nonsense it worked great for two days and its slowly geting back to its old no starting ways

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by BUBBA Livesay
The gears i got off of ebay came with all of that!! The other one for $25 i didnt look at to close to see if it did or not, just trying to help someone save a lil $$$ no!!!! those gears and shaft and return and 2 collars are different on the 05 from 06... most of the parts will work but not all you still need about another 130 dollars worth of parts, I just did mine and that's the same thing I did was pick up 05 and bought the different parts new

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by adamped415
im not running lights at all, but i just replaced the starter clutch and all that nonsense it worked great for two days and its slowly geting back to its old no starting ways did you replace all 5 parts or just the clutch itself? I had to replace all the parts ( they were out of spec) and its been fine since. about 2 years, but the 24v start helps the clutch also