400ex a arm question

[400ex350ss]

ok ive been told the ext a arms on my 400ex were lonestar .. so i went and ordered new ball joints thread in type from lonestar and there the wrong ones .. lonestar said those are the ball joints they use on all there a arms for 400ex so if there not correct then the a arms are not lonestar .. my question is how do i find out what kind of a arms they are .. ?

[honda400ex2003]

post a picture of them here and we may be able to help you out or at least give you a couple of guesses as to what they could be. steve

[400ex350ss]

heres a pic of it

[honda400ex2003]

no pic comes up for me :( steve

[400ex350ss]

send me an email address i can send some pics to .. it wont let me post them ..

[honda400ex2003]

honda400ex2003@charter.net

steve

[400ex350ss]

u got mail !

[Scro]

Originally posted by honda400ex2003
honda400ex2003@charter.net

steve

Post it up if you have the time.

[honda400ex2003]

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steve

[400ex350ss]

thanks steve now to figure out what kind of a arms i have lol

[honda400ex2003]

That i dont know lol


it doesnt look like they have heim joints like the full flight ones

they arent lonestars since they are an A style that is straight

i would guess from the pictures that they may be burgard ones but i really dont have any real idea. just a guess from seeing their extended arms on their site. Theirs have adjustable ends to do caster and such too though and i cant tell if yours have that from the pictures.

They could be something along the lines of moose who knows lol.
steve

[400ex350ss]

maybe this weekend ill try n get some better pics .. close up shots of them ... but im stuck with these brand new ball joints for lonestar arms and i have no idea where to get rid of them at id lke to find out what arms i have then maybe i can trade these on here to someone who has what i need n they need what i have

[honda400ex2003]

try to send them back. it is worth a shot. steve

[pmg8134]

check out NAPA i beleive 78 volkswagon.. no joke my buddie just made me feel like an idiot when he rebuilt his front end for half what i paid. i know it depends on the a-arm but another buddy with a different brand a arm used the same one. worked like a champ. i guess now we`ll just see who`s lasts longer.

[riotact]

My guess would be burgard.they look very similar to the ones I have.Are the ball joints you have to big?If so check these one out http://www.appletreeauto.com/bj-tie-rod-end-right-outer-c-279-p-1-pr-1223.html

These were the ones I was told to buy for the burgard arms.Here is a picture of mine,they do look very similar to yours.

[400ex350ss]

yes the new ball joints from lonestar are too big for my arms .. the shaft that threads into the arms its self if slightly larger in diameter then the ones i need .. and the dirt bike place i ordered these ball joints through said im stuck with them .. they dont send special order products back to the company they ordered them from so ive gotta brand new set of lonestar ball joints that i paid 135$ for that are completly useless so i was hoping someone here might want or need them and might have what i need so we can trade or whatever

[400ex350ss]

those a arms you put pics of look exactly like mine ..

[Honda5]

Sounds like you have 16mm and need 14mm if I recall correctly early burgard and some laeger used them so I would guess by the pics they are burgard. I may have a set of balljoints but I'll have to check.

[400ex350ss]

could ya please that be great if you did i love my quad n its killin me walkin past it in the garage not being able to hop on it n go tear the woods up real quik ...

[400ex350ss]

theres a sticker on my a arms .. says aevs or evs or something like that .. does this sound familiar to anyone here concerning the kind of a arms i have ...

[Honda5]

I only have 2 and one of them is missing the boot sorry I can't help.

[dustin_j]

You need 14mm shank ball joints. They were VW Transporter (and maybe beetle also?) tie rod ends. You can get them from an auto supplier like riotact did (that's a good priceor JB Racing sells them with with a coating to prevent surface rust for $20 apiece.

[ride red 14]

call burgard and tell them u need 14mm balljoints. i've ordered several from them. $35 a piece. list yours in the parts for sale. somebody will use them.

[400ex350ss]

ok this is the result i came up with today ... went to a local speed shop called fly racing .. the only thing they gave me to do is to reem out the holes in my a arms and use the ball joints i have and just lock them in place with a nut on each side .. not sure if i want to do this but itll save me money and the hassle of trying to re sell these things .. i cant afford to take it as a lose . 135$ to me is a good chunk of change so to just turn around and say i got screwed is out of the question .. i need to find a way to work with these some how so i can get my wheeler back up and running asap ! cant handle walking past her every day and not being able to ride her .. having my wheeler broke down is like my girl having her period ... no fun at all .. sorry if thats offensive to any females here .. but yea thats my only option so far ... heres some specs on the ball joints i have .. shat that goes into the spindle is 12 x 1.25 shaft that goes into arms is 16x 1.25 the bottom arms are thread in the top arms are slide through .. is it ncessary to keep the thread in part on the bottom or can i just drill it out slap 2 nuts on to lock it in place with some thread locker n call it a day .. whats your opinions on this idead ... thanks !

[416racer]

Originally posted by 400ex350ss
having my wheeler broke down is like my girl having her period ... no fun at all ..


LMAO! But your bike dont have 2 back up plans when its broke down:eek2:

[400ex350ss]

lol ur right dude .. but least when my wheelers broke she dont give me an attitude for no reason .. n the rule of thumb still applys to my bike if necessary ! why the govt took that rule away for woman is beyond me lol jk

[ride red 14]

if you go from 16mm from 14mm you are going to thin down your metal. i would say they are the size they are for a reason. thinner metal is going to be weaker, and more chance for breakage. i have been on the losing end of a broken balljoint, not much fun. this is just my $.02 i hate to see you get hurt over $135.

[250x_kyle]

do not drill them out. your risking a broken neck over 135. buy the ones that are ment for it. i just wont ever deal with burguard because of a rear break line that took me two months of calling every couple days, and threatening to file a complaint with the better business bureau as wel as the credit card company to get.

[400ex350ss]

well i ordered the correct ball joints ffunny enough i got them at napa .. for a 78 vw transporter or them buses .. hippie vans now i just needa sell these ball joints i got for lonestar a arms .. any one interested .. ill take my losses and accept 115 for them

[400ex350ss]

well i ordered the correct ball joints ffunny enough i got them at napa .. for a 78 vw transporter or them buses .. hippie vans now i just needa sell these ball joints i got for lonestar a arms .. any one interested .. ill take my losses and accept 115 for them

[ride red 14]

good choice.

[born2ride14]

Jb racing has the cheapest price on the 14mm @ 19.99 a piece