The Rebuild is about to start

[PaRedneckRiders]

Well guys some of u may remember my 426 before and after pics.
Well i sent the frame for sandblasting today and it will be done tomorrow and i can go pick it up so then the rebuilt begins.
I had to cut a couple corners because of the new addition (my truck)
So i couldnt go all out like i wanted to but it should still be nice.

I do have one question for you guys though, Since i cant get the frame powder coated, im just going to paint it.
But my question is what should i paint it with to help with durability some, i was going to do a primer and then mayb 2 coats of semi-gloss black Rustoleum.

need some help and i will be posting pics, im gonna try and get photobucket working for me because as of now it still wont let me upload pics

[CJM]

I would spray it with some automotive paint and primer. Even the spray can kind holds up better than plain jane rattle can

[PaRedneckRiders]

quad before teardown

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by CJM
I would spray it with some automotive paint and primer. Even the spray can kind holds up better than plain jane rattle can
ok i dont plan on riding many trails, mostly track and some local boney piles

[PaRedneckRiders]

after most of the teardown, will get some pics of the frame after i get it back tomorrow.

[CJM]

Main thing I would do is make sure you clearcoat it, that way the actual paint color is protected well.

[PaRedneckRiders]

o and here is the reason i dont have as much money to spend on the quad (its the one on the right haha)

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by CJM
Main thing I would do is make sure you clearcoat it, that way the actual paint color is protected well.
Ya i planned on some sort of clear coat, i could prob have one of my buddies do it at tech because there in the body/ paint shop

[nelzar13]

call up a decent auto body shop and ask them what they have for paints. I know a friend of mine that paints at an auto shop mentioned to me the other day he has some stuff that is similar to rhyno lining for truck beds, and if i remember correctly he said its a smooth finish vs a textured finish like rhyno. i think the only diference is its baked at a higher temp. and that gives it a more powder coat like finish...

[rubbersdown]

You would be surprised how much it costs to paint it correctly. I only painted a frame 1 time and I will never do it again. Between sandpaper, primer, base coat, catalyst/hardner, reducer and clear coat it cost me right around $140 to do a quality automotive paint job (just gloss black) and thats with me sandblasting it myself. Its only $150 - $200 to have it blasted and powdercoated one solid color and then you can have little parts done for CHEAP if you want sense their guns already loaded. I did a 250r back in the day and it only cost me $225 to PC the frame, swingarm, steering stem and my nerf bars. I know prices havent changed either because I just had a frame and some parts done for one of my custom choppers I built a few months ago.

[ridgeracer]

Originally posted by nelzar13
call up a decent auto body shop and ask them what they have for paints. I know a friend of mine that paints at an auto shop mentioned to me the other day he has some stuff that is similar to rhyno lining for truck beds, and if i remember correctly he said its a smooth finish vs a textured finish like rhyno. i think the only diference is its baked at a higher temp. and that gives it a more powder coat like finish...
Sounds interesting. I'd like to know what that stuff is called.

[beags86]

its basically rock guard. it may be called something else by other manufacturers. a few years ago, i was side swiped and had to have my truck repaired.

since it wasn't me paying for it i couldn't do it myself and had to have a shop do it :mad: anyway long story short is that i had the body shop put that on the lower half (molding on down) of my truck.

i don't know how much it cost since i didn't pay the bill, but i do know if had held up well until i traded off the truck.(about 4 years)

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by rubbersdown
You would be surprised how much it costs to paint it correctly. I only painted a frame 1 time and I will never do it again. Between sandpaper, primer, base coat, catalyst/hardner, reducer and clear coat it cost me right around $140 to do a quality automotive paint job (just gloss black) and thats with me sandblasting it myself. Its only $150 - $200 to have it blasted and powdercoated one solid color and then you can have little parts done for CHEAP if you want sense their guns already loaded. I did a 250r back in the day and it only cost me $225 to PC the frame, swingarm, steering stem and my nerf bars. I know prices havent changed either because I just had a frame and some parts done for one of my custom choppers I built a few months ago.
i got a quote of 250-300 for powder in Bike Black that was with him sand blasting it, i could have my buddy do alot of the smaller stuff because he has the stuff to powder coat but doesnt have a big enough oven to bake bigger things, he jsut has an old kitchen oven

[rubbersdown]

Originally posted by PaRedneckRiders
i got a quote of 250-300 for powder in Bike Black that was with him sand blasting it, i could have my buddy do alot of the smaller stuff because he has the stuff to powder coat but doesnt have a big enough oven to bake bigger things, he jsut has an old kitchen oven

Wow thats way overpriced, if you shop around you should be able to find someone to sandblast and powdercoat it for under $200 pretty easy. The best most expensive shop in my town (theres 5 or 6 dif shops) charges $200 to sandblast and powdercoat any frame of any bike, atv or motorcyckle, street or dirt any single solid color you want.

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by rubbersdown
Wow thats way overpriced, if you shop around you should be able to find someone to sandblast and powdercoat it for under $200 pretty easy. The best most expensive shop in my town (theres 5 or 6 dif shops) charges $200 to sandblast and powdercoat any frame of any bike, atv or motorcyckle, street or dirt any single solid color you want.
Idk thats just one of my local shops, i figured i could save some cash by just painting it, and then finish my truck up before i can drive it(middle of this coming summer) after the truck is done i do plan on doing a little more to the quad mayb could do do something then, just not sure yet

On another note i didnt get my frame back today they said they got busy and everything got delayed so mayb tomorrow

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by PaRedneckRiders
i got a quote of 250-300 for powder in Bike Black that was with him sand blasting it, i could have my buddy do alot of the smaller stuff because he has the stuff to powder coat but doesnt have a big enough oven to bake bigger things, he jsut has an old kitchen oven
Wow just picked this up, sorry guys i got the quote wrong that was with 2 frames, mine and one of my buddies frames.
It was between 150-200 if he sandblasted, i just got it sandblasted so it would be about 150$ for powder

[PaRedneckRiders]

update, let me know if pics dont work im just getting photobucket to work for me (FINALLY)
Got my frame back today
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101726.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101725a.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101725.jpg
Some of the pics arent real great cause my basement doesnt have much light at 7:30 since its dark by then now
My hiper Tech 3 rings are about ready to be pulled for some black rings. Itp quadcross MX rear tires and RAZR MX fronts
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101849.jpg
Maier Silver plastic with a quadtech carbon fiber hood
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101849a.jpg
My motor (these are the bad pics) 426 11:1 wiseco, stage 2 cam, kibble white valves, +3 timing key, no head work cause im short on cash but it may happen later on
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101850a.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101859a.jpg
G-force +2+4 adjustable axle
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101853.jpg
Houser Silcast +2 ST arms
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101855.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101856.jpg
450r shocks with triple rate springs
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101857.jpg
450r carb
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101851a.jpg
Well guys thats about it for now

[PaRedneckRiders]

almost forgot, this is my antifade, That was supposed to be for a 400ex, i think it is for a 450r
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101858.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101859.jpg
Here, this one shows how much smaller it actually is
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1119101902.jpg

[trailrider894]

Where did you get the springs from?

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by trailrider894
Where did you get the springs from?
I didnt i bought the shocks like that from a member on here, i was told they were works zps triple rate springs

[trailrider894]

THanks.

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by trailrider894
THanks.
Ya man no prob

[IMSROLL450R]

Dang these rebuild threads are fun to look through. Great start man gonna be a kick *** bike. Keep the pics comin.

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by IMSROLL450R
Dang these rebuild threads are fun to look through. Great start man gonna be a kick *** bike. Keep the pics comin.
Ya i was hoping i would have the cash to make it nicer but i guess this will do for now, if i ever build another quad itll more than likely be a 250r but that will be after my truck is done

[426kidz]

Yo, ask pappy to paint that bad boy for you...hes got great prices and does amazing work!!

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by 426kidz
Yo, ask pappy to paint that bad boy for you...hes got great prices and does amazing work!!
I know i have look through his work but i think for now its just gonna get a cheap paint job, i really only plan on riding some local MX tracks with it next year.
But the next rebuild will be all out if i decide to rebuilt this one again

[426kidz]

sweet man, make sure its good paint my buddy did his with auto paint and they say it takes high head....bubbled up and chipped he paid 100 dolars for it, and pappy only charged 125 i believe, to bad he was lazy. But yeah make sure it wont melt it smells supper bad when it gets all weird.:mad:

[PaRedneckRiders]

i think im gonna prime it and then use like the truck bed liner in a can. (The heavy duty stuff)
Ive seen it done a couple times before and it seemed to hold up pretty well so i think ill try that.

[426kidz]

Yeah, take some pics and let us know!:D

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by 426kidz
Yeah, take some pics and let us know!:D
Will do, im gonna get some primer this week and start putting it back together prob next weekend

[426kidz]

good luck.:D

[IMSROLL450R]

I took a grinder to the chrome rear bumper on my truck before painting it with that bedliner in a can stuff. Chips like crazy, hope it works better for you...

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by IMSROLL450R
I took a grinder to the chrome rear bumper on my truck before painting it with that bedliner in a can stuff. Chips like crazy, hope it works better for you...
Ok may just go with the automotive paint then, still dont know

[rubbersdown]

You ever used the "paint shop finish system" stuff by Duplicolor? It actually works good and isnt badly priced. If you dont know how to mix auto paint it is a good way to go because its all premixed and ready to spray right out of the can. Mixing auto paint can be very tricky and easily messed up if you dont know what your doing. Duplicolor has like a dozen colors to choose from and its like $20 a can for base coat (one can will do a whole frame easily) and like $20 a can of clear. I have never used it on a frame but have done parts with it and it holds up quite well. If I were you id rattle can the primer and spray this stuff over top of it and have a descent $50 paint job.
Haha, I proof read this and I sound like a freaking duplicolor salesmen, but the stuff really does work good lol

[ridgeracer]

Originally posted by IMSROLL450R
I took a grinder to the chrome rear bumper on my truck before painting it with that bedliner in a can stuff. Chips like crazy, hope it works better for you...
I was thinking about picking up some of the aerosol bedliner from Autozone for my rims. What brand did you use? And did you brush it on?

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by rubbersdown
You ever used the "paint shop finish system" stuff by Duplicolor? It actually works good and isnt badly priced. If you dont know how to mix auto paint it is a good way to go because its all premixed and ready to spray right out of the can. Mixing auto paint can be very tricky and easily messed up if you dont know what your doing. Duplicolor has like a dozen colors to choose from and its like $20 a can for base coat (one can will do a whole frame easily) and like $20 a can of clear. I have never used it on a frame but have done parts with it and it holds up quite well. If I were you id rattle can the primer and spray this stuff over top of it and have a descent $50 paint job.
Haha, I proof read this and I sound like a freaking duplicolor salesmen, but the stuff really does work good lol
Ok man, i think that made up my mind.
I think this is the way ill do it.

[IMSROLL450R]

Originally posted by ridgeracer
I was thinking about picking up some of the aerosol bedliner from Autozone for my rims. What brand did you use? And did you brush it on?


I bought the aerosol kind and I dont remember what brand it was. Just sprayed it on...

[PaRedneckRiders]

Heres another little update guys.

Subframe When it was bare metal
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1124101405.jpg
After Primer
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1124101438.jpg
And after paint, this is only one coat im going to do one more (sorry for the bad pics, kinda hard to take good pics in my garage at 8:30)
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1124101937.jpg
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1124101938.jpg

Dont have any pics of the frame Other than the ones i already posted, i got it primed but started to get dark and started to chill down so i didn't get any paint on her tonight

[CJM]

Dupli color maybe?

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by CJM
Dupli color maybe?
Yep

[PaRedneckRiders]

Ok well its Raining today so im not going to do any painting because i was doing outside on a stand we have set up.

If the rain stops maybe it will dry out some by tomorrow or Saturday then i can get the frame painted and get this thing to a roller again.
I still have to clean the motor up and make it nicer because it had oil all over the back of it because of the old blown out rear shock.

[PaRedneckRiders]

Got the second coat on my subframe and the first coat on my frame.
Got some crappy pics but ill post them anyway.

Was gonna have in it a roller tommorow but need to get new front wheel bearings, steering stem bearing, and polish a bunch of parts before i can get her to a roller yet.

Was painting my rear hubs too thats why the spray can is there, dont have pics of them yet only have 1 done
Havent got my front ones off the spindles yet

Subframe with second coat on
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1126101828.jpg

Frame with first coat
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1126101827.jpg

http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz72/PaRedneckRiders/400ex/1126101828a.jpg